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(distant helicopter blades
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(radio feedback)
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JOHN MUSGRAVE:
I was assigned a listening
post at Con Thien in the fall.
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That was like getting
a death sentence at a trial.
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Because that's just three
Marines out there with a radio.
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And that's the scariest thing
I did.
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You're listening for the enemy.
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They call you on the radio
every hour,
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"Delta, Lima, Papa,
Three, Bravo,
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"Delta, Lima, Papa, Three,
Bravo, this is Delta Three.
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"If your sit rep is alpha
sierra, key your handset twice.
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(two blips of static)
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"If your situation report
is all secure,
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break squelch twice
on the handset."
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(two lower-toned
blips of static)
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And if it's not, they keep
thinking you're asleep
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so they keep asking you, "If
your sit rep is alpha sierra,"
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and then it finally
dawns on them
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maybe there's somebody too close
for you to say anything.
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So then they say, "If your sit
rep is negative alpha sierra,
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key your handset once,"
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and you damn near squeeze
the handle off the, you know,
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and two on the radio
because they're so close
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that you can hear them
whispering to one another.
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And that's scary stuff.
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That's real scary stuff.
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And I'm scared of the dark,
still.
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I still got a night light.
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When my kids were growing up,
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that's the first time
they really found out
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that Daddy'd been in a war
when they said,
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"Well, why do we need to outgrow
our night lights?
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Daddy's still got one."
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("So What" by Miles Davis
playing)
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JOHN KENNEDY:
Let the word go forth
from this time and place,
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to friend and foe alike,
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that the torch has been passed
to a new generation
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of Americans born in this
century, tempered by war,
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disciplined by a hard
and bitter peace,
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proud of our...
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JACK TODD:
I still believed, very much,
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in this concept
of an heroic America,
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America being a really
special country,
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the best country in the world,
the best democracy,
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all the things that
we believe about it, which...
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and I didn't really see anything
wrong with that.
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I was sure that we were right
to be in Vietnam.
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You know, because it started
under Kennedy
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and, to me, JFK was God.
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Anything that he thought was
right, I thought was right.
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NARRATOR:
At 43, John Fitzgerald Kennedy
was the youngest man
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ever elected president
of the United States.
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He had promised bold
new leadership,
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and to his supporters his
inauguration seemed to signal
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a new day.
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To those new states
whom we welcome
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to the ranks of the free,
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we pledge our word that one form
of colonial control
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shall not have passed away
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merely to be replaced
by a far more iron tyranny.
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We shall not always expect to
find them supporting our view.
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But we shall always hope to find
them strongly supporting
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their own freedom and to
remember that, in the past,
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those who foolishly
sought power
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by riding the back of the tiger
ended up inside.
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(cheers and applause)
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NARRATOR:
The new president gathered
around him
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an extraordinary set of advisors
who shared his determination
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to confront communism, including
Secretary of State Dean Rusk,
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National Security Advisor
McGeorge Bundy,
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his deputy Walt Rostow,
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special military advisor
General Maxwell Taylor,
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and Secretary of Defense
Robert McNamara,
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who had given up his post
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as president of the Ford Motor
Company to serve his country.
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He was a pioneer in the field
of systems analysis.
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Like the president
who picked them,
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all of Kennedy's men had served
during World War II.
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Each had absorbed what
they all believed
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was its central lesson:
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ambitious dictatorships needed
to be halted in their tracks
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before they constituted
a serious danger
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to the peace of the world.
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Meanwhile, in South Vietnam,
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the National Liberation Front--
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labeled by its enemies
the Viet Cong--
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was determined to overthrow
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the anticommunist and
increasingly autocratic
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government of Ngo Dinh Diem.
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In North Vietnam,
unbeknownst to Washington,
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Ho Chi Minh, the father
of Vietnamese independence,
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was now sharing power
with a more aggressive leader,
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Le Duan, who was even
more impatient
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to reunify his country.
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BAO NINH:
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LESLIE GELB:
None of us knew anything
about Vietnam.
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Vietnam in those days was
a piece on a chessboard,
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a strategic chessboard,
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not a place with a culture
and a history
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that we would have
an impossible time changing,
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even with the mighty force
of the United States.
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NARRATOR:
Over the next three years,
the United States would struggle
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to understand the complicated
country it had come to save,
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fail to appreciate
the enemy's resolve,
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and misread how the South
Vietnamese people really felt
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about their government.
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The new president
would find himself caught
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between the momentum of war
and the desire for peace,
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between humility and hubris,
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between idealism and expediency,
between the truth and a lie.
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("My Country 'Tis of Thee"
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KENNEDY:
And so, my fellow Americans,
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ask not what your country
can do for you,
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ask what you can do
for your country.
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MUSGRAVE:
I grew up in Missouri,
near Kansas City,
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a little community
called Fairmount.
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I was born in 1948.
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And there were lots of kids
being born in those days
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from the guys who were lucky
enough to come home
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from World War II.
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My dad was a pilot
in the Army Air Corps.
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And all of dad's friends
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were World War II vets
or Korean vets.
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And all of my male teachers
were veterans.
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And even my pastor
had been a chaplain.
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Well, they were my heroes,
and I wanted to be like them.
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NARRATOR:
For all of John Kennedy's
soaring rhetoric,
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for all the talent
he gathered around him,
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the first months of his
presidency did not go well.
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He approved a CIA-sponsored
invasion of Cuba
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at the Bay of Pigs
that ended in disaster.
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He felt he'd been bullied
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by Soviet premier
Nikita Khrushchev
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at a summit meeting in Vienna.
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He was unable
to keep the Soviets
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from building the Berlin Wall.
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And in Southeast Asia,
he refused to intervene
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against a communist
insurrection in Laos.
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Critics accused him of being
immature, indecisive,
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inadequate to the task of
combating what seemed to be
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a mounting communist threat.
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"There are just so many
concessions that we can make
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in one year and
survive politically,"
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he confided to an aide
in the spring of 1961.
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In South Vietnam,
Kennedy felt he had to act.
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After the president received
reports
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that the Viet Cong
might be in control
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of more than half the densely
populated Mekong Delta,
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he dispatched General
Maxwell Taylor and Walt Rostow
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to Vietnam.
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They urged him to commit
American ground troops.
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Kennedy refused.
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It would be like taking
a first drink, he said--
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the effect would soon wear off
and there would be demands
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for another
and another and another.
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Instead, in the midst
of a cold war,
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with its constant risk
of nuclear confrontation,
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the president supported
a new "flexible" way
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to confront and contain
communism: limited war.
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This is another type of warfare,
new in its intensity,
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ancient in its origin--
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war by guerrillas, subversives,
insurgents, assassins;
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war by ambush
instead of by combat;
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by infiltration
instead of aggression.
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NARRATOR:
To fight his "limited wars,"
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Kennedy hoped to use
the elite Green Berets,
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special forces trained
in guerrilla warfare,
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counterinsurgency.
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They were meant to be dispatched
to hotspots around the world.
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ROBERT RHEAULT:
Khrushchev said, "We're
not going to destroy you
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with nuclear weapons,
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we're going to destroy you with
wars of national liberation."
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Everybody talked about
the fact
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that communism was spreading
and it had to be stopped.
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You went to Command and
General Staff College
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and you were playing
on maps with nuclear weapons
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and so forth.
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And I escaped from that by
getting into Special Forces.
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So that instead of planning
what we were going to do
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if World War III broke out,
we were actually doing stuff.
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And Vietnam was a place where
we were going to draw the line.
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NARRATOR:
Kennedy sent the Green Berets
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to the Central Highlands
of Vietnam
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to organize mountain tribes
to fight the Viet Cong
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and to undertake covert missions
to sabotage their supply bases
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in Laos and Cambodia.
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But Kennedy understood
that counterinsurgency alone
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would never be enough,
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so he doubled funding
for South Vietnam's army,
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dispatched helicopters and APCs,
armored personnel carriers.
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Kennedy also authorized
the use of napalm
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and the spraying of defoliants
to deny cover to the Viet Cong
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and destroy the crops
that fed them.
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A whole array of chemicals
was used,
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including one named
for the color of the stripes
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on the 55-gallon drums in which
it came-- "Agent Orange."
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And the president quietly
continued to increase
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the number of American
military advisors.
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Within two years, the number
he had inherited would grow
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to 11,300,
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empowered not only to teach
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the Army of the Republic
of Vietnam-- the ARVN--
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to fight a conventional war,
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but to accompany them
into battle,
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a violation of the agreement
that had divided Vietnam
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back in 1954.
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(gunfire)
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The administration did its best
to hide from the American people
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the scale of the buildup
that was taking place
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on the other side of the world,
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fearful that the public
would not support
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the more active role advisors
had begun to play in combat.
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Mr. President, a Republican
National Committee publication
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has said that you are...
have been less than candid
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with the American people as
to how deeply we are involved
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in Vietnam.
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Could you throw
any more light on that?
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We have increased our assistance
to the government,
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its logistics.
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We have not sent combat troops
there.
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Though the training missions
that we have there
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have been instructed if
they are fired upon to...
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they are, would of course, fire
back, to protect themselves.
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But we have not sent
combat troops
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in the generally understood
sense of the word.
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So that I-I feel that we are
being as frank as the...
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as we can be.
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I think we...
what I have said to you
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is a description
of our activity there.
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NEIL SHEEHAN:
I was a child of the Cold War.
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When I got off the plane in
Saigon on a humid evening
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in April 1962,
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I really believed in all
the ideology of the Cold War.
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On...
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That if we lost South Vietnam,
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that the rest of Southeast Asia
would fall to the communists.
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There was an international
communist conspiracy.
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We believed fervently
in this stuff.
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NARRATOR:
Neil Sheehan was
a 25-year-old reporter
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for United Press International,
UPI.
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He had served three years
in the Army in Korea and Japan
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before deciding to become
a newspaperman.
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Vietnam was his first full-time
overseas assignment,
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and his only worry,
he remembered,
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was that he would get there
too late and miss out
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on the big story.
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Sheehan and other reporters rode
along as the ARVN mounted
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a series of helicopter assaults
on enemy strongholds
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in the Mekong Delta
and elsewhere
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and brought terror
to the Viet Cong.
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American pilots were
at the controls.
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SHEEHAN:
It was a crusade
and it was thrilling.
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And you'd climb aboard
the helicopters
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with the Vietnamese soldiers who
were being taken out to battle.
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And they'd take off.
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And they'd contour-fly, they'd
skim across the rice paddies
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at about three or four feet
above the paddies,
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and then pop up over the tree
lines that lined the fields.
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It was thrilling.
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I mean it was absolutely
thrilling.
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And you believed
in what was happening.
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I mean you had the sense
that we're fighting here
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and some day we'll win, and
this country will be a better,
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better country for our coming.
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NARRATOR:
The new M-113 armored
personnel carriers
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were capable of churning across
rivers and rice paddies
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and right through
the earthen dikes
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that separated one field
from the next.
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The Viet Cong had nothing
with which to stop them.
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JAMES SCANLON:
We were just overwhelming them
with force, with firepower.
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And the firefights would be over
in a pretty short time.
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MAN ON RADIO:
We have some people
running along the dikes.
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Actually, the canal
is perpendicular
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to the one you're attacking now.
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They have on black uniforms, and
I estimate approximately 3-0.
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Do you have them in sight?
Over.
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SCANLON:
That's what was causing us
to win, see.
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And we were winning
one after the other.
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And we were not meeting
a heck of a lot of resistance.
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NARRATOR:
Captain James Scanlon had been
stationed in West Germany
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and had seen for himself
the brutality with which
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the communist East Germans
dealt with anyone
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who dared try to escape
to the West.
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He was now in the Mekong Delta,
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an advisor to the 7th Division
of the ARVN,
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and had begun to see evidence
of Viet Cong brutality as well.
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SCANLON:
Those of us who talked to the
people who fled East Germany,
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we saw the need to stop
the growth of communism,
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to stop the dominoes
from being tumbled.
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That was a worthy cause.
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NARRATOR:
As the ARVN and their advisors
pursued the Viet Cong,
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the government of Ngo Dinh Diem
had launched
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an ambitious program meant to
gain control of the countryside
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by concentrating
the rural population
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into thousands of fortified
settlements,
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ringed with barbed wire
and moats and bamboo spikes
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meant to keep out the Viet Cong.
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They were called strategic
hamlets, part of the effort
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to win the hearts and minds,
and loyalty,
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of the Vietnamese people.
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The French had tried something
like it a decade before.
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They had called it pacification.
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ROBERT McNAMARA:
President Diem's strategic
hamlet program
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is making substantial progress.
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About 1,600
of the some 14,000 hamlets
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have been fortified to date.
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NARRATOR:
By the summer of 1962,
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news from South Vietnam
seemed so promising
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that Defense Secretary
Robert McNamara made sure
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the Pentagon was prepared
to implement a plan
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for a gradual withdrawal
of American advisors
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to be completed by 1965.
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So far as most Americans knew,
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the United States was achieving
its goal:
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a stable, independent,
anticommunist state
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in South Vietnam.
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It was "a struggle this country
cannot shirk,"
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theNew York Tim es said,
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and the United States seemed
to be winning it.
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But that same summer,
Ho Chi Minh traveled to Beijing
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in search of more help
from the Chinese.
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The American buildup in
South Vietnam had alarmed him
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and the other leaders in Hanoi.
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Ho told the Chinese
that American attacks
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on North Vietnam itself now
seemed only a matter of time.
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The Chinese promised to equip
and arm tens of thousands
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of Vietnamese soldiers.
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Meanwhile, the Politburo
in Hanoi had directed
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that every able-bodied
North Vietnamese man
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be required to serve
in the armed forces.
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("Honky Tonk Pt. 1"
by Bill Doggett playing)
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NARRATOR:
Inspired by their
president's call,
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thousands of young Americans
would join the Peace Corps
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and other organizations to help
project American ideals
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and goodwill around the world.
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("Honky Tonk Pt. 1" continues)
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RUFUS PHILLIPS:
We were not only there in
Vietnam to stop communism,
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but there had to be
something positive.
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We're trying to find out what
the Vietnamese people want
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and to help them get it.
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And that was very simple
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but, if you think about it,
also very complex.
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But it went to the heart,
I thought,
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of what we were trying to do.
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("Dirty Overalls"
by Woody Guthrie playing)
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NARRATOR:
Pete Hunting, a 22-year-old
from Oklahoma City,
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would go to Vietnam right after
college to do what he could
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to help poor villagers
in the countryside.
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WOODY GUTHRIE:
♪ I was a soldier in the fight
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♪ And I fought till we won
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♪ My uniform's
my dirty overhauls. ♪
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HUNTING (dramatized):
Dear Margo,
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I finally finished up my work
in Phan Rang last week.
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Had spent a month
working on a windmill
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I'd promised the people
of one hamlet.
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Cost a lot of money, too, which
I paid out of my own pocket.
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GUTHRIE:
♪ Well, I'll give you my sweat,
I'll give you my blood. ♪
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HUNTING (dramatized):
I'm in soaring spirits today
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despite all the natural
disasters, political intrigues,
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and subversive activities.
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NARRATOR:
Pete Hunting worked
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for the International
Voluntary Services,
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a nonprofit organization
committed to improving
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agriculture, education,
and public health.
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He was one of hundreds
of dedicated aid workers
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in South Vietnam.
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GUTHRIE:
♪ My hoe is my gun.
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HUNTING (dramatized):
Latest news on this side
of the world
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is that I'll almost definitely
be extending over here
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for another two years,
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providing the country stays
in one piece that long.
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NARRATOR:
Two years after he arrived,
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Pete Hunting was driving
in the Mekong Delta
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when he ran into
a Viet Cong ambush.
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He was shot five times
in the head...
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(gunshot)
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the first American
civilian volunteer
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to be killed in Vietnam.
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(helicopter blades beating,
voices on radio)
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(distorted sound of gunfire,
explosion)
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People used to joke in Vietnam
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about winning the hearts
and minds.
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And you hear that expression,
but that should not be a joke.
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It's a serious, serious problem.
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If you pull off
a military operation,
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and it may be successful
on the military basis,
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but you destroy a village,
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then you've created
a village of resistance.
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NARRATOR:
Few advisors understood
the unique challenges
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of fighting
an insurgency in Vietnam
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better than Lieutenant
Colonel John Paul Vann.
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A career soldier from Virginia,
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he was the senior
American advisor
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to the 7th ARVN Division
in the Mekong Delta.
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Small, wiry and abrasive,
John Paul Vann was convinced
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he knew how to defeat
the Viet Cong.
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PHILIP BRADY:
John Paul Vann was simply
the most remarkable soldier
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I ever met.
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Period.
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The biggest challenge
of John Paul Vann's life
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was somehow saving Vietnam,
winning.
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That, to him,
was the ultimate challenge.
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(explosion)
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NARRATOR:
When it became clear to Vann
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that the tactics the Americans
had taught the ARVN
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were beginning to make more
enemies than friends,
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he sought out newspapermen
to spread the word.
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NEIL SHEEHAN:
He was able to explain to us
what was going on.
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The important thing was not
to alienate the population.
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That if you got sniper fire
from a hamlet,
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you sent in riflemen
to take out the sniper.
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You didn't shell the place,
because you were going to kill
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women and kids
and destroy houses
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and you were going to turn
the population against you.
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NARRATOR:
Most press coverage
of Vietnam was upbeat
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in the tradition
of previous wars.
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But a handful of young reporters
including Neil Sheehan,
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David Halberstam
of theNew York Times,
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and Malcolm Browne
of the Associated Press,
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who spent time in the field
with officers like Vann,
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were beginning to see that
from the Vietnamese countryside,
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things looked very different
than they did
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from the press offices
in Washington or Saigon.
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SHEEHAN:
So it was terribly important
that we not only win the war
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but that we as reporters report
the truth
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that would help to win the war.
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We were very fervent in wanting
to report the truth
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because it was very important
to the welfare of our country
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and to the welfare of the world.
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NARRATOR:
Sheehan and his colleagues began
asking tough questions
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about what constituted progress,
what victory would look like,
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and if the people
in the countryside,
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where 80% of South Vietnam's
population lived,
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could ever trust the government
in Saigon.
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SHEEHAN:
I remember going, during one
of Robert McNamara's visits,
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out to one of these hamlets.
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The Vietnamese general
who commanded the area
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was telling McNamara what
a wonderful thing this was.
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And the-the... some of these
farmers were down
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digging a ditch around the...
around the hamlet.
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And I looked at their faces
and they were really angry.
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I mean it was very obvious to me
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that if these people could,
they'd cut our throats.
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NARRATOR:
Farmers resented being forced
to abandon their homes
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and move to strategic hamlets.
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Corrupt officials
siphoned off funds.
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00:26:14,883 --> 00:26:17,283
And villagers blamed
the Diem regime
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for failing to protect them
from guerrilla attacks.
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As the people's anger grew, so
did the ranks of the Viet Cong.
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SHEEHAN:
It turned out that the Viet Cong
were recruiting men
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right out of those strategic...
so-called strategic hamlets.
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And then the whole program
fell apart.
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NGUYEN NGOC:
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NARRATOR:
Nguyen Ngoc's father was
a postal clerk south of Danang.
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His brothers and sisters taught
in South Vietnamese schools.
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But he joined the revolution,
and as a political officer,
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wrote poems, songs, and slogans
to inspire the people
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in the countryside
to support the Viet Cong.
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DUONG VAN MAI:
The Viet Cong cadre would come
in and talk to them
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and their message is usually
(speaking Vietnamese),
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which means "turn your grief
into action.
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"Do something about it.
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"Join us.
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"We'll fight together.
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"We'll liberate the country from
this corrupt, unjust government.
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"We'll throw out the foreigners.
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"We'll reunify the country.
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"And we'll bring in
this great regime
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"that will take care of you
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and bring economic
and social justice."
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NARRATOR:
The Viet Cong ran rival
local governments,
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complete with their own tax
collectors and school teachers,
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spies and propagandists,
and province chiefs.
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To make matters worse,
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ARVN troops and American
advisors now found themselves
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confronted by a new threat:
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battalions of well-armed
Viet Cong soldiers,
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as well as by local guerrillas.
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SHEEHAN:
We'd armed them.
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You could hear the arming
of the Viet Cong.
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Back in early '62, they only had
one machine gun per battalion.
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(single gunfire burst)
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It was sporadic fire.
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Then, as they captured more and
more of these American arms,
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when you made contact, it fi...
486
00:28:43,950 --> 00:28:46,183
it would build up into
a drumfire of automatic
487
00:28:46,283 --> 00:28:47,716
and semi-automatic weapons.
488
00:28:47,816 --> 00:28:50,716
(cacophony of gunfire bursts)
489
00:28:55,450 --> 00:28:58,550
RUFUS PHILLIPS:
Secretary McNamara decided
that he would draw up
490
00:28:58,650 --> 00:29:01,483
some kind of a chart
to determine
491
00:29:01,583 --> 00:29:04,416
whether we were winning or not.
492
00:29:04,516 --> 00:29:07,116
And he was putting things in
493
00:29:07,216 --> 00:29:09,983
like numbers of weapons
recovered,
494
00:29:10,083 --> 00:29:12,350
numbers of Viet Cong killed.
495
00:29:12,450 --> 00:29:14,850
Very statistical.
496
00:29:17,416 --> 00:29:19,816
And he asked Edward Lansdale,
497
00:29:19,916 --> 00:29:23,616
who was then in the Pentagon
as head of Special Operations,
498
00:29:23,716 --> 00:29:25,716
to come down and look at this.
499
00:29:25,816 --> 00:29:29,950
And so Lansdale did and he said,
"There's something missing."
500
00:29:30,050 --> 00:29:33,250
And McNamara said, "What?"
501
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:36,883
And Lansdale said, "The feelings
of the Vietnamese people."
502
00:29:36,983 --> 00:29:40,816
You couldn't reduce this
to a statistic.
503
00:29:40,916 --> 00:29:45,483
NARRATOR:
Robert McNamara had vowed
to make America's military
504
00:29:45,583 --> 00:29:46,950
"cost-effective."
505
00:29:47,050 --> 00:29:50,750
He demanded that everything
be quantified.
506
00:29:50,850 --> 00:29:54,650
In Saigon,
General Paul D. Harkins,
507
00:29:54,750 --> 00:29:58,016
head of the Military Assistance
Command, Vietnam,
508
00:29:58,116 --> 00:30:01,350
known as MACV,
dutifully complied.
509
00:30:01,450 --> 00:30:06,050
He and his staff generated
mountains of daily, weekly,
510
00:30:06,150 --> 00:30:08,316
monthly, and quarterly data
511
00:30:08,416 --> 00:30:11,416
on more than a hundred
separate indicators,
512
00:30:11,516 --> 00:30:16,016
far more data than could ever be
adequately analyzed.
513
00:30:16,116 --> 00:30:19,383
(typewriter keys clacking)
514
00:30:19,483 --> 00:30:22,283
General Harkins had little use
for skeptical reporters
515
00:30:22,383 --> 00:30:23,916
like Neil Sheehan.
516
00:30:24,016 --> 00:30:26,483
Bad news was to be buried.
517
00:30:26,583 --> 00:30:30,683
Harkins ignored the alarming
after action reports
518
00:30:30,783 --> 00:30:34,350
John Paul Vann and other
officers were sending in
519
00:30:34,450 --> 00:30:36,416
from the field.
520
00:30:36,516 --> 00:30:39,483
DONALD GREGG:
I was going to be made head
of the Vietnam desk
521
00:30:39,583 --> 00:30:41,550
at CIA headquarters.
522
00:30:41,650 --> 00:30:44,883
And the first person of
importance that I met
523
00:30:44,983 --> 00:30:47,183
was General Harkins.
524
00:30:47,283 --> 00:30:49,716
And he started out by saying,
525
00:30:49,816 --> 00:30:52,583
"Mr. Gregg, I don't care what
you hear from anybody else,
526
00:30:52,683 --> 00:30:54,983
"I can tell you without a doubt
we're going to be out of here
527
00:30:55,083 --> 00:30:56,883
with a military victory
in six months."
528
00:30:58,383 --> 00:31:00,316
JAMES MOSSMAN:
The country's 12 million
peasants
529
00:31:00,416 --> 00:31:03,016
can scarcely remember
what peace was like.
530
00:31:03,116 --> 00:31:04,950
They're caught between
the predatory guerrillas
531
00:31:05,050 --> 00:31:07,550
and the almost equally
demanding soldiery.
532
00:31:07,650 --> 00:31:09,950
Their lives are lived in a state
of permanent uncertainty,
533
00:31:10,050 --> 00:31:12,650
punctuated by bouts of violence
534
00:31:12,750 --> 00:31:14,183
as government forces come
to grips
535
00:31:14,283 --> 00:31:16,516
with the black-clad
communist rebel forces
536
00:31:16,616 --> 00:31:17,950
called the Viet Cong.
537
00:31:22,683 --> 00:31:25,183
HUY DUC:
538
00:32:04,083 --> 00:32:07,450
NGUYEN NGOC:
539
00:32:49,883 --> 00:32:52,583
CAO XUAN DAI:
540
00:33:15,916 --> 00:33:20,150
On our side we were
not as committed
541
00:33:20,250 --> 00:33:22,083
and we were...
542
00:33:22,183 --> 00:33:25,416
our leaders were corrupt
and incompetent.
543
00:33:25,516 --> 00:33:30,483
And so deep down
we'll always have this fear,
544
00:33:30,583 --> 00:33:36,150
this suspicion that in the end
it'll be the communists who won.
545
00:33:36,250 --> 00:33:39,716
TOM VALLELY:
When John Kennedy assembled
546
00:33:39,816 --> 00:33:41,850
what he thinks is the best
and the brightest,
547
00:33:41,950 --> 00:33:48,116
20 years before that in
a cave in the northern part
548
00:33:48,216 --> 00:33:50,783
of Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh
also put together
549
00:33:50,883 --> 00:33:52,283
his best and the brightest.
550
00:33:52,383 --> 00:33:55,450
And these guys are at it
for a while.
551
00:33:55,550 --> 00:33:59,083
And when we show up,
they were far along
552
00:33:59,183 --> 00:34:05,050
to consolidating their victory
over this inevitable conflict
553
00:34:05,150 --> 00:34:09,683
between Ho Chi Minh
and John F. Kennedy's vision.
554
00:34:09,783 --> 00:34:14,850
The more you think about
the American strategy,
555
00:34:14,950 --> 00:34:18,550
the more you know
556
00:34:18,650 --> 00:34:21,416
that it was never going to work
out particularly well.
557
00:34:36,283 --> 00:34:41,950
RHEAULT:
I was at my top of my
game when I was in combat.
558
00:34:46,916 --> 00:34:49,983
You don't have the luxury
to indulge your fear
559
00:34:50,083 --> 00:34:52,050
because other people's lives
depend upon
560
00:34:52,150 --> 00:34:53,450
you keeping your head cold.
561
00:35:02,216 --> 00:35:05,183
You know, when something
goes wrong,
562
00:35:05,283 --> 00:35:06,583
they call it emotional numbing.
563
00:35:06,683 --> 00:35:08,950
It's not very good
in civilian life,
564
00:35:09,050 --> 00:35:11,250
but it's pretty useful
in combat.
565
00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:25,550
To be able to get absolutely
very cold
566
00:35:25,650 --> 00:35:30,816
about what needs to be done
and to stick with it.
567
00:35:36,650 --> 00:35:39,583
To me it's, it's a little bit
distressing to realize
568
00:35:39,683 --> 00:35:41,350
that I was at my best
569
00:35:41,450 --> 00:35:44,116
doing something as terrible
as war.
570
00:35:53,516 --> 00:35:56,050
MOSSMAN:
President Kennedy has staked
his reputation in Asia
571
00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:58,983
on saving South Vietnam
from communism.
572
00:35:59,083 --> 00:36:01,483
As the army makes the sweep
towards the village
573
00:36:01,583 --> 00:36:03,383
suspected of harboring
Viet Cong,
574
00:36:03,483 --> 00:36:06,583
it can't tell whether it will
meet resistance.
575
00:36:12,816 --> 00:36:15,016
The troops round up all the
young men they can find,
576
00:36:15,116 --> 00:36:18,183
since they can't tell who is
a communist just by looking.
577
00:36:20,683 --> 00:36:23,350
Those who try to run for it
are shot
578
00:36:23,450 --> 00:36:25,383
on the assumption
they have something to hide.
579
00:36:30,416 --> 00:36:34,050
TRAN NGOC CHAU (in English):
580
00:37:17,050 --> 00:37:21,916
NARRATOR:
Each of South Vietnam's
44 provinces had its own chief.
581
00:37:22,016 --> 00:37:24,816
Some were simply political
appointees,
582
00:37:24,916 --> 00:37:27,683
corrupt allies of
President Diem.
583
00:37:27,783 --> 00:37:33,416
Tran Ngoc Chau, province chief
of Kien Hoa, was different.
584
00:37:33,516 --> 00:37:38,350
A privileged judge's son from
the old imperial city of Hue,
585
00:37:38,450 --> 00:37:41,416
he and two of his brothers
had fought against the French
586
00:37:41,516 --> 00:37:42,883
with the Viet Minh.
587
00:37:42,983 --> 00:37:46,983
But he had refused to join
the Communist Party;
588
00:37:47,083 --> 00:37:50,016
he admired their dedication,
but disliked the way
589
00:37:50,116 --> 00:37:53,250
they punished those who dared
differ with them.
590
00:37:53,350 --> 00:37:56,316
Instead, he left the Viet Minh,
591
00:37:56,416 --> 00:37:59,550
became a major in the army
fighting against them,
592
00:37:59,650 --> 00:38:03,516
and eventually so impressed Diem
with his insider's knowledge
593
00:38:03,616 --> 00:38:07,450
of communist tactics that
he was promoted to colonel
594
00:38:07,550 --> 00:38:13,383
and made chief of Kien Hoa,
a Viet Cong stronghold.
595
00:38:13,483 --> 00:38:17,150
PHILLIPS:
He was absolutely incorruptible.
596
00:38:17,250 --> 00:38:22,216
And people came to really
understand that here's a guy
597
00:38:22,316 --> 00:38:25,316
who's, even though it's not
an elected system,
598
00:38:25,416 --> 00:38:28,250
who never... nevertheless
really represents us.
599
00:38:29,950 --> 00:38:31,850
NARRATOR:
"Give me a budget that equals
the cost
600
00:38:31,950 --> 00:38:36,150
of one American helicopter,"
Chau liked to say,
601
00:38:36,250 --> 00:38:38,883
"and I'll give you
a pacified province.
602
00:38:38,983 --> 00:38:43,050
"With that much money, I can
raise the standard of living
603
00:38:43,150 --> 00:38:44,650
"of the rice farmers,
604
00:38:44,750 --> 00:38:46,450
"and government officials
can be paid enough
605
00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:51,250
so they won't think it necessary
to steal."
606
00:38:51,350 --> 00:38:53,816
Rather than hunt down
the Viet Cong,
607
00:38:53,916 --> 00:38:56,583
he sought to persuade them.
608
00:38:57,950 --> 00:39:01,150
TRAN NGOC CHAU (in English):
609
00:39:47,783 --> 00:39:51,883
("Walk, Don't Run"
by the Ventures playing)
610
00:39:51,983 --> 00:39:55,583
NARRATOR:
Back home, Americans were paying
little attention
611
00:39:55,683 --> 00:39:57,850
to what was happening
in Vietnam.
612
00:39:57,950 --> 00:40:00,683
They were watching
The Beverly Hillbillies
613
00:40:00,783 --> 00:40:02,883
andGunsm oke on TV,
614
00:40:02,983 --> 00:40:05,916
were interested in whether
the Yankees would win
615
00:40:06,016 --> 00:40:07,416
the World Series again
616
00:40:07,516 --> 00:40:11,650
and in the recent death
of Marilyn Monroe.
617
00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:14,850
("Stand By Me"
by Ben E. King playing)
618
00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:17,350
But some Americans had been
growing impatient
619
00:40:17,450 --> 00:40:20,716
with the slow pace
of social change.
620
00:40:20,816 --> 00:40:22,450
BILL ZIMMERMAN:
We were told in the '50s
621
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:25,250
that we lived in the best
country in the world.
622
00:40:25,350 --> 00:40:28,750
In the middle of, you know,
trying to figure out
623
00:40:28,850 --> 00:40:31,083
what it meant to be a citizen
of the...
624
00:40:31,183 --> 00:40:33,516
of this best country
in the world,
625
00:40:33,616 --> 00:40:35,416
suddenly the civil rights
movement exploded
626
00:40:35,516 --> 00:40:37,450
into our consciousness.
627
00:40:37,550 --> 00:40:43,683
BEN E. KING:
♪ When the night has come...
628
00:40:43,783 --> 00:40:45,616
ZIMMERMAN:
We didn't think
we had any power.
629
00:40:45,716 --> 00:40:48,850
We didn't think we could be
actors in history,
630
00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:51,550
that we could affect things.
631
00:40:53,783 --> 00:40:56,850
KING:
♪ No, I won't be afraid
632
00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:58,783
♪ Oh, I won't...
633
00:40:58,883 --> 00:41:00,616
ZIMMERMAN:
And suddenly, you know,
634
00:41:00,716 --> 00:41:02,616
these young black students
in the South
635
00:41:02,716 --> 00:41:04,316
were doing exactly that.
636
00:41:04,416 --> 00:41:07,483
And it just blew the tops
of our heads off.
637
00:41:07,583 --> 00:41:13,216
KING:
♪ So darling, darling,
stand by me ♪
638
00:41:13,316 --> 00:41:17,650
♪ Oh, stand by me
639
00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:22,916
♪ Oh, stand, stand by me
640
00:41:23,016 --> 00:41:25,783
♪ Stand by me
641
00:41:25,883 --> 00:41:28,550
♪ If the sky
that we look upon... ♪
642
00:41:28,650 --> 00:41:32,050
NARRATOR:
Other Americans were concerned
about the proliferation
643
00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:35,383
of nuclear weapons in the world.
644
00:41:35,483 --> 00:41:39,383
Perhaps it would be a good thing
to put Khrushchev and Kennedy
645
00:41:39,483 --> 00:41:43,283
on an island and not let either
one of them off
646
00:41:43,383 --> 00:41:45,650
until they came to an agreement.
647
00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:48,116
KING:
♪ Stand by me
648
00:41:48,216 --> 00:41:53,050
♪ And darling, darling,
stand by me. ♪
649
00:41:57,250 --> 00:42:00,683
(bicycle bells ring,
motors rumble)
650
00:42:08,416 --> 00:42:11,550
SHEEHAN:
And if you were in a cafe when
Diem was giving a speech,
651
00:42:11,650 --> 00:42:13,416
somebody would get up
and shut the radio off,
652
00:42:13,516 --> 00:42:15,283
it would be coming in
over the radio.
653
00:42:15,383 --> 00:42:17,683
Somebody would get up and
they'd just shut the radio off.
654
00:42:17,783 --> 00:42:21,950
I mean, he was not connected
with... to his own population.
655
00:42:24,916 --> 00:42:29,816
PHAN QUANG TUE:
Diem was simply the opposite
of what democracy was.
656
00:42:29,916 --> 00:42:33,683
South Vietnam, in the
competition against the North,
657
00:42:33,783 --> 00:42:38,850
that should been, should have
been a golden opportunity
658
00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:44,250
to have that society open
with the free press,
659
00:42:44,350 --> 00:42:46,350
free expression.
660
00:42:46,450 --> 00:42:49,183
But there was not much choice
661
00:42:49,283 --> 00:42:53,683
if the two system are
structurally dictator
662
00:42:53,783 --> 00:42:55,083
and oppressive systems--
663
00:42:55,183 --> 00:43:01,516
one under the Communist
Party, one under a family.
664
00:43:02,616 --> 00:43:05,150
CHAU (speaking English):
665
00:43:18,450 --> 00:43:22,050
NARRATOR:
Diem's brother, Ngo Dinh Nhu,
had been the architect
666
00:43:22,150 --> 00:43:24,550
of the strategic hamlet program,
667
00:43:24,650 --> 00:43:28,783
ran a personal political party
that mirrored the techniques
668
00:43:28,883 --> 00:43:31,350
and the ruthlessness
of the communists,
669
00:43:31,450 --> 00:43:35,616
and supervised a host of
internal security units
670
00:43:35,716 --> 00:43:39,850
that spied on and seized enemies
of the regime.
671
00:43:41,716 --> 00:43:43,816
Some reporters
who probed too deeply
672
00:43:43,916 --> 00:43:46,316
into what Diem and Nhu
were doing
673
00:43:46,416 --> 00:43:48,583
were ordered out of the country.
674
00:43:48,683 --> 00:43:49,616
(gunshot)
675
00:43:49,716 --> 00:43:52,116
When an American journalist
objected,
676
00:43:52,216 --> 00:43:56,283
Nhu's sharp-tongued wife told
him Vietnam had no use
677
00:43:56,383 --> 00:43:59,016
for "your crazy freedoms."
678
00:44:00,483 --> 00:44:02,350
Meanwhile,
out in the countryside,
679
00:44:02,450 --> 00:44:06,616
John Paul Vann and other
advisors had begun to notice
680
00:44:06,716 --> 00:44:10,450
that the corruption within
Diem's regime had filtered down
681
00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:12,483
to the commanders in the field.
682
00:44:12,583 --> 00:44:17,583
Troops, who had once been
willing to engage the enemy,
683
00:44:17,683 --> 00:44:21,716
now seemed strangely reluctant.
684
00:44:21,816 --> 00:44:26,616
God, I was told so many
times, "(speaking Vietnamese)."
685
00:44:26,716 --> 00:44:28,616
You know, "Scanlon,
(speaking Vietnamese)."
686
00:44:28,716 --> 00:44:29,816
Um...
687
00:44:29,916 --> 00:44:35,116
very dangerous, you know,
going out there.
688
00:44:35,216 --> 00:44:37,950
NEIL SHEEHAN:
John Vann would go out
with them at night.
689
00:44:38,050 --> 00:44:42,150
And he noticed that somebody
would always cough
690
00:44:42,250 --> 00:44:45,583
or make some other
slight noise when it turned out
691
00:44:45,683 --> 00:44:48,083
that the Viet Cong were heading
into the ambush site.
692
00:44:48,183 --> 00:44:49,916
They did not want to get
in a fight.
693
00:44:50,016 --> 00:44:53,216
NARRATOR:
South Vietnamese officers
were chosen
694
00:44:53,316 --> 00:44:56,783
less for their combat skill
than for their loyalty
695
00:44:56,883 --> 00:45:00,850
to President Diem,
and their men knew it.
696
00:45:02,150 --> 00:45:03,483
RHEAULT:
What we should've done is
697
00:45:03,583 --> 00:45:08,150
either forced the Vietnamese--
I mean really forced them--
698
00:45:08,250 --> 00:45:10,350
to clean up their act.
699
00:45:10,450 --> 00:45:12,483
And if they wouldn't clean up
their act to say,
700
00:45:12,583 --> 00:45:14,983
"We're out of here.
701
00:45:15,083 --> 00:45:17,883
"Because we don't bet
on losing horses.
702
00:45:17,983 --> 00:45:20,383
"This is a losing horse.
703
00:45:20,483 --> 00:45:22,750
You are not going to win
this insurgency."
704
00:45:22,850 --> 00:45:25,583
We, as Americans, should have
understood the desire
705
00:45:25,683 --> 00:45:29,150
of the Vietnamese people
to have their own country.
706
00:45:29,250 --> 00:45:32,250
I mean we did the same thing
to the Brits.
707
00:45:37,883 --> 00:45:42,716
NARRATOR:
In October of 1962, the United
States and the Soviet Union
708
00:45:42,816 --> 00:45:45,583
came closer than they would ever
come again
709
00:45:45,683 --> 00:45:48,350
to mutually assured destruction.
710
00:45:48,450 --> 00:45:51,450
Good evening,
my fellow citizens.
711
00:45:51,550 --> 00:45:55,516
This government,
as promised, has maintained
712
00:45:55,616 --> 00:45:59,450
the closest surveillance of
the Soviet military buildup
713
00:45:59,550 --> 00:46:01,350
on the island of Cuba.
714
00:46:02,350 --> 00:46:04,383
Within the past week,
715
00:46:04,483 --> 00:46:07,783
unmistakable evidence
has established the fact
716
00:46:07,883 --> 00:46:11,283
that a series of offensive
missile sites
717
00:46:11,383 --> 00:46:16,416
is now in preparation
on that imprisoned island.
718
00:46:16,516 --> 00:46:19,716
NARRATOR:
The Soviets had secretly placed
nuclear missiles
719
00:46:19,816 --> 00:46:22,850
90 miles
from the United States.
720
00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:27,850
The Joint Chiefs of Staff urged
President Kennedy to bomb Cuba.
721
00:46:27,950 --> 00:46:32,083
He resisted and instead ordered
a naval blockade
722
00:46:32,183 --> 00:46:36,583
to stop Soviet ships
from resupplying the island.
723
00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:43,550
For 13 excruciating days,
the world held its breath.
724
00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:50,183
Finally, in exchange
for a private pledge
725
00:46:50,283 --> 00:46:52,983
to remove American missiles
from Turkey,
726
00:46:53,083 --> 00:46:56,683
Khrushchev agreed to remove
his missiles from Cuba.
727
00:46:59,516 --> 00:47:02,516
Neither the United States
nor the Soviet Union
728
00:47:02,616 --> 00:47:06,650
wanted so direct
a confrontation ever again.
729
00:47:06,750 --> 00:47:09,150
From now on, limited wars,
730
00:47:09,250 --> 00:47:11,750
like the growing conflict
in Vietnam,
731
00:47:11,850 --> 00:47:15,350
would assume
still greater importance.
732
00:47:18,650 --> 00:47:23,150
MUSGRAVE:
I'd grown up in the shadow
of the mushroom cloud.
733
00:47:23,250 --> 00:47:27,283
And I remember the...
watching President Kennedy speak
734
00:47:27,383 --> 00:47:28,950
during the Cuban Missile Crisis
735
00:47:29,050 --> 00:47:31,250
and wondering if I was
ever gonna kiss a girl.
736
00:47:31,350 --> 00:47:34,216
And so this was just continuing
that battle
737
00:47:34,316 --> 00:47:36,083
against the Russians.
738
00:47:36,183 --> 00:47:39,716
Only we were fighting,
you know, their, their proxies,
739
00:47:39,816 --> 00:47:43,250
the Vietnamese there--
but it was monolithic communism.
740
00:47:44,616 --> 00:47:47,483
It didn't matter to me
where it was, I was going to go
741
00:47:47,583 --> 00:47:51,650
if my government said
we needed to be there.
742
00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:54,683
We were probably the last kids
of any generation
743
00:47:54,783 --> 00:47:56,016
that actually believed
744
00:47:56,116 --> 00:47:57,850
our government
would never lie to us.
745
00:48:03,183 --> 00:48:05,483
SHEEHAN:
We had been writing stories
about all the flaws
746
00:48:05,583 --> 00:48:08,416
on the Saigon side--
about how they wouldn't fight,
747
00:48:08,516 --> 00:48:11,250
about the corruption,
they wouldn't obey orders,
748
00:48:11,350 --> 00:48:12,883
the disorganization.
749
00:48:14,816 --> 00:48:19,350
And then all of a sudden the
Viet Cong, for the first time,
750
00:48:19,450 --> 00:48:20,816
the "raggedy-ass
little bastards"
751
00:48:20,916 --> 00:48:23,716
as the Harkins's people
in Saigon called them,
752
00:48:23,816 --> 00:48:25,350
stood and fought.
753
00:48:25,450 --> 00:48:27,716
And suddenly all the flaws
on the Saigon side
754
00:48:27,816 --> 00:48:30,116
were illuminated by this.
755
00:48:30,216 --> 00:48:33,416
Like a star shell, it
illuminated the battlefield.
756
00:48:33,516 --> 00:48:34,983
Everything came out.
757
00:48:36,250 --> 00:48:39,550
NARRATOR:
A few days after Christmas 1962,
758
00:48:39,650 --> 00:48:43,116
the 7th ARVN Division got
orders to capture
759
00:48:43,216 --> 00:48:45,316
a Viet Cong radio transmitter
760
00:48:45,416 --> 00:48:50,050
broadcasting from a spot some
40 miles southwest of Saigon
761
00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:53,116
in a village called Tan Thoi.
762
00:48:53,216 --> 00:48:55,950
The village was surrounded
by rice paddies.
763
00:48:56,050 --> 00:49:02,050
An irrigation dike linked it to
a neighboring hamlet-- Ap Bac.
764
00:49:02,150 --> 00:49:06,483
Intelligence suggested
no more than 120 guerrillas
765
00:49:06,583 --> 00:49:08,916
were guarding the transmitter.
766
00:49:09,016 --> 00:49:12,350
John Paul Vann helped draw up
what seemed to be
767
00:49:12,450 --> 00:49:14,883
a foolproof plan of attack.
768
00:49:14,983 --> 00:49:19,216
Supported by helicopters and
armored personnel carriers,
769
00:49:19,316 --> 00:49:23,183
some 1,200 South Vietnamese
troops would attack the village
770
00:49:23,283 --> 00:49:25,116
from three sides.
771
00:49:25,216 --> 00:49:28,083
When the surviving Viet Cong
tried to flee through the gap
772
00:49:28,183 --> 00:49:32,116
left open for them, as they
always had whenever outnumbered
773
00:49:32,216 --> 00:49:34,416
and confronted
by modern weapons,
774
00:49:34,516 --> 00:49:38,016
artillery and airstrikes
would destroy them.
775
00:49:38,116 --> 00:49:42,583
Vann would observe the fighting
from a spotter plane.
776
00:49:42,683 --> 00:49:48,283
But the intelligence underlying
it all turned out to be wrong.
777
00:49:48,383 --> 00:49:53,916
There were more than 340 Viet
Cong, not 120, in the area.
778
00:49:54,016 --> 00:49:56,950
Communist spies
had tipped them off
779
00:49:57,050 --> 00:49:59,150
that they were soon to be
attacked.
780
00:49:59,250 --> 00:50:03,316
And this time they would not
flee without a fight.
781
00:50:05,783 --> 00:50:08,516
Among them was Le Quan Cong,
782
00:50:08,616 --> 00:50:13,050
who had been a guerrilla fighter
since 1951, when he was 12.
783
00:50:27,516 --> 00:50:32,583
NARRATOR:
At 6:35 in the morning
on January 2, 1963,
784
00:50:32,683 --> 00:50:35,983
ten American helicopters ferried
an ARVN company
785
00:50:36,083 --> 00:50:39,450
to a spot just north
of Tan Thoi.
786
00:50:42,350 --> 00:50:45,350
They met no resistance.
787
00:50:45,450 --> 00:50:49,016
Meanwhile, two South Vietnamese
Civil Guard battalions
788
00:50:49,116 --> 00:50:52,416
approached Ap Bac
from the South on foot.
789
00:50:55,416 --> 00:50:59,083
The Viet Cong commander let the
Civil Guards get within 100 feet
790
00:50:59,183 --> 00:51:01,750
before giving the order to fire.
791
00:51:04,250 --> 00:51:07,016
Several South Vietnamese
soldiers were killed.
792
00:51:10,983 --> 00:51:14,050
Survivors hid behind a dike.
793
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:16,883
(gunfire)
794
00:51:16,983 --> 00:51:18,816
Ten more helicopters,
795
00:51:18,916 --> 00:51:22,616
filled with troops and escorted
by five helicopter gunships,
796
00:51:22,716 --> 00:51:23,983
roared in to help.
797
00:51:25,516 --> 00:51:27,483
LE QUAN CONG:
798
00:51:50,816 --> 00:51:55,116
NARRATOR:
Viet Cong machine guns hit
14 of the 15 aircraft.
799
00:51:55,216 --> 00:52:00,583
Five would be destroyed, killing
and wounding American crewmen.
800
00:52:02,050 --> 00:52:04,216
LE QUAN CONG:
801
00:52:10,283 --> 00:52:12,650
NARRATOR:
The enemy concentrated
their fire on the ARVN
802
00:52:12,750 --> 00:52:15,816
struggling to get out
of the downed helicopters.
803
00:52:15,916 --> 00:52:18,883
"It was like shooting ducks
for the Viet Cong,"
804
00:52:18,983 --> 00:52:20,916
an American crewman remembered.
805
00:52:23,250 --> 00:52:26,250
Colonel Vann circled
helplessly overhead.
806
00:52:26,350 --> 00:52:28,750
He radioed the ARVN commander,
807
00:52:28,850 --> 00:52:32,950
urging him to send an APC unit
to rescue the men.
808
00:52:34,283 --> 00:52:36,850
SCANLON:
I got the word from John Vann
809
00:52:36,950 --> 00:52:39,750
that American helicopters
were down.
810
00:52:39,850 --> 00:52:42,216
They were right in front
of the Viet Cong positions.
811
00:52:42,316 --> 00:52:45,616
We had Americans killed
and wounded
812
00:52:45,716 --> 00:52:47,783
and we had to get over there
right away.
813
00:52:47,883 --> 00:52:51,783
NARRATOR:
Like Vann, Captain Scanlon
was only an advisor.
814
00:52:51,883 --> 00:52:55,316
Captain Ly Tong Ba,
his ARVN counterpart,
815
00:52:55,416 --> 00:52:58,116
would have to give the order
to advance.
816
00:52:58,216 --> 00:53:01,450
Scanlon liked and admired him.
817
00:53:01,550 --> 00:53:03,983
SCANLON:
I turned to Ba and said,
818
00:53:04,083 --> 00:53:06,750
"Hey, you know, you got to get
over there right away."
819
00:53:06,850 --> 00:53:11,350
And Ba said to me,
"I'm not going."
820
00:53:11,450 --> 00:53:14,816
NARRATOR:
Ba's superiors within the ARVN,
far from the battlefield,
821
00:53:14,916 --> 00:53:17,983
had told him to stay put.
822
00:53:18,083 --> 00:53:22,016
And John Vann, my boss, was,
uh, screaming at me over the...
823
00:53:22,116 --> 00:53:25,416
over the radio to get them
over there.
824
00:53:25,516 --> 00:53:29,850
NARRATOR:
It took Scanlon an hour
to convince Captain Ba to move.
825
00:53:29,950 --> 00:53:32,350
Another two hours were lost
826
00:53:32,450 --> 00:53:35,450
before the APCs could make
their way through the paddies
827
00:53:35,550 --> 00:53:37,750
toward the trapped men.
828
00:53:39,716 --> 00:53:41,983
The firing had died down.
829
00:53:42,083 --> 00:53:43,983
SCANLON:
Everything was quiet.
830
00:53:44,083 --> 00:53:46,783
You could see the open
expanse of rice fields.
831
00:53:46,883 --> 00:53:50,183
And my reaction was,
hey, it was all over.
832
00:53:50,283 --> 00:53:53,483
NARRATOR:
The first two APCs
dropped their ramps.
833
00:53:53,583 --> 00:53:55,950
Infantry squads stepped out,
834
00:53:56,050 --> 00:53:59,016
prepared to spray the tree line
with automatic fire
835
00:53:59,116 --> 00:54:00,316
as they advanced.
836
00:54:00,416 --> 00:54:03,116
In the past,
that had been enough
837
00:54:03,216 --> 00:54:06,550
to make the Viet Cong
scurry away.
838
00:54:06,650 --> 00:54:08,916
This time was different.
839
00:54:12,616 --> 00:54:14,616
Eight of the APCs
came under attack.
840
00:54:14,716 --> 00:54:18,083
Within minutes, six of their
gunners had been killed,
841
00:54:18,183 --> 00:54:19,416
shot through the head.
842
00:54:20,816 --> 00:54:22,916
SCANLON:
And boy, we got raked.
843
00:54:23,016 --> 00:54:24,750
So it was like a pool table.
844
00:54:24,850 --> 00:54:26,216
We were on the green
845
00:54:26,316 --> 00:54:28,550
and they were in the pockets
shooting at us.
846
00:54:28,650 --> 00:54:31,416
NARRATOR:
When Captain Ba managed
to convince
847
00:54:31,516 --> 00:54:34,083
a few more APCs to advance,
848
00:54:34,183 --> 00:54:37,150
guerrillas leapt
from their foxholes
849
00:54:37,250 --> 00:54:39,283
and hurled hand grenades
at them.
850
00:54:44,283 --> 00:54:46,683
None did any real damage,
851
00:54:46,783 --> 00:54:50,350
but the drivers were so
demoralized that they halted,
852
00:54:50,450 --> 00:54:55,383
turned around, and withdrew
behind the wrecked helicopters.
853
00:54:55,483 --> 00:54:57,383
From his spotter plane,
854
00:54:57,483 --> 00:55:01,616
Vann begged the ARVN to make
a simultaneous assault
855
00:55:01,716 --> 00:55:05,083
on the enemy by all the
remaining ground forces.
856
00:55:06,216 --> 00:55:09,216
ARVN commanders refused.
857
00:55:11,616 --> 00:55:14,583
That night,
the Viet Cong melted away,
858
00:55:14,683 --> 00:55:18,083
carrying most of their dead
and wounded with them.
859
00:55:20,216 --> 00:55:24,283
At least 80 South Vietnamese
soldiers had been killed.
860
00:55:24,383 --> 00:55:29,750
So had three American advisors,
including Captain Ken Good,
861
00:55:29,850 --> 00:55:30,983
a friend of Scanlon's.
862
00:55:34,883 --> 00:55:38,783
SCANLON:
We stacked the armored personnel
carriers with bodies,
863
00:55:38,883 --> 00:55:40,583
stacked them up on top
till they...
864
00:55:40,683 --> 00:55:42,516
we couldn't stack anymore.
865
00:55:42,616 --> 00:55:48,716
And, um, I wouldn't let the
Vietnamese touch the Americans.
866
00:55:48,816 --> 00:55:51,583
So I carried Americans out.
867
00:55:51,683 --> 00:55:53,950
And, um...
868
00:55:54,050 --> 00:55:56,250
And I was... I was exhausted.
869
00:55:56,350 --> 00:56:02,216
They told me about
Ken Good getting killed.
870
00:56:02,316 --> 00:56:06,550
And Ken and I had worked so hard
with our two battalions.
871
00:56:06,650 --> 00:56:12,450
And to hear that...
he got killed hurt.
872
00:56:12,550 --> 00:56:14,183
(voice breaking):
Great guy.
873
00:56:15,616 --> 00:56:17,816
NARRATOR:
Reporters arrived from Saigon
874
00:56:17,916 --> 00:56:21,850
before all of the ARVN dead
could be removed.
875
00:56:21,950 --> 00:56:26,150
They were horrified at what they
saw and tried to find out
876
00:56:26,250 --> 00:56:28,916
what had really happened.
877
00:56:29,016 --> 00:56:33,450
John Paul Vann took Neil Sheehan
and David Halberstam aside
878
00:56:33,550 --> 00:56:35,483
and told them.
879
00:56:35,583 --> 00:56:37,350
The Battle of Ap Bac had been
880
00:56:37,450 --> 00:56:40,183
"a miserable goddamn
performance."
881
00:56:40,283 --> 00:56:42,416
"The ARVN won't listen,"
he said.
882
00:56:42,516 --> 00:56:45,450
"They make the same mistakes
over and over again
883
00:56:45,550 --> 00:56:47,583
in the same way."
884
00:56:49,250 --> 00:56:50,750
But back in Saigon,
885
00:56:50,850 --> 00:56:54,550
General Harkins immediately
declared victory.
886
00:56:54,650 --> 00:56:57,650
"The ARVN forces had
an objective," he said.
887
00:56:57,750 --> 00:56:59,183
"We took that objective.
888
00:56:59,283 --> 00:57:02,783
"The VC left and their
casualties were greater
889
00:57:02,883 --> 00:57:05,450
"than those of
the government forces.
890
00:57:05,550 --> 00:57:07,183
What more do you want?"
891
00:57:08,650 --> 00:57:10,983
When Halberstam and Sheehan
reported
892
00:57:11,083 --> 00:57:13,983
that Ap Bac had in fact
been a defeat,
893
00:57:14,083 --> 00:57:18,150
the U.S. Commander
in the Pacific denied it all
894
00:57:18,250 --> 00:57:23,783
and urged the reporters
to "get on the team."
895
00:57:23,883 --> 00:57:25,916
SHEEHAN:
Ap Bac was terribly important.
896
00:57:26,016 --> 00:57:28,183
They had shot down five
helicopters,
897
00:57:28,283 --> 00:57:30,683
which they previously had been
terrified of.
898
00:57:30,783 --> 00:57:34,850
They'd stopped the armored
personnel carriers.
899
00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:36,950
They demonstrated
to their own people
900
00:57:37,050 --> 00:57:40,116
that you could resist
the Americans and win.
901
00:57:43,816 --> 00:57:46,050
LE QUAN CONG:
902
00:57:59,783 --> 00:58:03,550
NARRATOR:
In Hanoi, the Battle of Ap Bac
was seen
903
00:58:03,650 --> 00:58:08,250
by Party First Secretary Le Duan
and his Politburo allies
904
00:58:08,350 --> 00:58:10,550
as evidence
of the inherent weakness
905
00:58:10,650 --> 00:58:13,616
of the South Vietnamese regime.
906
00:58:13,716 --> 00:58:17,450
Even when faced with American
advisors and weaponry,
907
00:58:17,550 --> 00:58:21,316
the Viet Cong had learned
how to inflict heavy casualties
908
00:58:21,416 --> 00:58:25,216
on Saigon's forces,
and get away again.
909
00:58:26,716 --> 00:58:30,516
In Saigon, President Diem
claimed the ARVN were winning,
910
00:58:30,616 --> 00:58:31,850
not losing.
911
00:58:31,950 --> 00:58:35,216
Ap Bac had only been
a momentary setback.
912
00:58:35,316 --> 00:58:37,116
And he resented Americans
telling him
913
00:58:37,216 --> 00:58:40,816
how to fight his battles
or run his country.
914
00:58:40,916 --> 00:58:45,916
The president's sister-in-law,
Madame Nhu, went further.
915
00:58:46,016 --> 00:58:50,416
She denounced the Americans
as "false brothers."
916
00:58:51,883 --> 00:58:54,683
"We don't have a prayer
of staying in Vietnam,"
917
00:58:54,783 --> 00:58:58,850
President Kennedy privately told
a friend that spring.
918
00:58:58,950 --> 00:59:01,016
"These people hate us.
919
00:59:01,116 --> 00:59:04,450
"But I can't give up a piece
of territory like that
920
00:59:04,550 --> 00:59:09,050
to the communists and then get
the people to reelect me."
921
00:59:13,150 --> 00:59:15,683
(loud commotion)
922
00:59:15,783 --> 00:59:17,316
ED HERLIHY:
Buddhist monks and nuns
are joined
923
00:59:17,416 --> 00:59:18,816
by thousands of sympathizers
924
00:59:18,916 --> 00:59:20,583
to protest
the government's restrictions
925
00:59:20,683 --> 00:59:23,616
on the practice of
their religion in South Vietnam.
926
00:59:25,216 --> 00:59:28,783
SHEEHAN:
Diem began by alienating
the rural population.
927
00:59:28,883 --> 00:59:31,450
And that started the Viet Cong.
928
00:59:31,550 --> 00:59:34,383
And now he was alienating
the urban population.
929
00:59:34,483 --> 00:59:37,016
HERLIHY:
Seventy percent of the
population is Buddhist
930
00:59:37,116 --> 00:59:38,616
and the demonstrators clashed
with the police
931
00:59:38,716 --> 00:59:42,883
during the week-long series
of incidents like this.
932
00:59:42,983 --> 00:59:46,383
NARRATOR:
In the months that followed
the Battle of Ap Bac,
933
00:59:46,483 --> 00:59:51,150
South Vietnam plunged into civil
strife that had little to do
934
00:59:51,250 --> 00:59:54,050
with the Viet Cong.
935
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:58,116
Religion and nationalism
were at its heart.
936
00:59:58,216 --> 01:00:01,950
A Catholic minority had for
years dominated the government
937
01:00:02,050 --> 01:00:04,883
of an overwhelmingly
Buddhist country.
938
01:00:06,483 --> 01:00:08,883
That spring in the city of Hue,
939
01:00:08,983 --> 01:00:11,916
Christian flags had been
flown to celebrate
940
01:00:12,016 --> 01:00:15,150
the 25th anniversary
of the ordination
941
01:00:15,250 --> 01:00:18,050
of Diem's older brother
as a Catholic bishop.
942
01:00:21,183 --> 01:00:24,516
But when the Buddhists
of the city flew their flags
943
01:00:24,616 --> 01:00:29,950
to celebrate the 2,527th
birthday of Lord Buddha,
944
01:00:30,050 --> 01:00:32,883
police tore them down.
945
01:00:32,983 --> 01:00:35,616
Protesters took to the streets.
946
01:00:37,716 --> 01:00:41,516
The Catholic deputy province
chief sent security forces
947
01:00:41,616 --> 01:00:44,416
to suppress the demonstration.
948
01:00:44,516 --> 01:00:46,083
The soldiers opened fire.
949
01:00:46,183 --> 01:00:47,083
(two gunshots)
950
01:00:47,183 --> 01:00:50,116
Eight protesters died.
951
01:00:50,216 --> 01:00:56,083
The youngest was 12;
the oldest was 20.
952
01:00:56,183 --> 01:01:00,050
The Diem regime blamed
the Viet Cong.
953
01:01:01,650 --> 01:01:05,450
Monks throughout the country
demanded an apology.
954
01:01:14,316 --> 01:01:16,616
They also called for an end
to discrimination
955
01:01:16,716 --> 01:01:18,983
by Catholic officials.
956
01:01:19,083 --> 01:01:22,250
Many Buddhists had come to see
Diem's policies
957
01:01:22,350 --> 01:01:25,616
as a direct threat
to their religious beliefs.
958
01:01:28,416 --> 01:01:32,050
DUONG VAN MAI:
My family was against
what Diem was doing.
959
01:01:32,150 --> 01:01:34,716
My mother was convinced
960
01:01:34,816 --> 01:01:38,750
that Diem was destroying
the Buddhist faith.
961
01:01:38,850 --> 01:01:43,016
She would go to the pagodas and
listen to the monks' speeches.
962
01:01:43,116 --> 01:01:46,483
And she was just
extremely upset.
963
01:01:47,850 --> 01:01:49,050
She was not alone.
964
01:01:49,150 --> 01:01:51,950
There was a lot of people
like her.
965
01:01:52,050 --> 01:01:55,983
NARRATOR:
American officials urged Diem
and his brother Nhu
966
01:01:56,083 --> 01:01:59,383
to make meaningful concessions
to the Buddhists,
967
01:01:59,483 --> 01:02:01,516
for the sake
of maintaining unity
968
01:02:01,616 --> 01:02:04,150
in the struggle
against communism.
969
01:02:04,250 --> 01:02:05,883
They refused.
970
01:02:08,416 --> 01:02:13,383
On June 10, 1963, Malcolm Browne
of the Associated Press
971
01:02:13,483 --> 01:02:16,350
received an anonymous tip:
972
01:02:16,450 --> 01:02:19,616
something important was going
to happen the next day
973
01:02:19,716 --> 01:02:23,116
at a major intersection
in Saigon.
974
01:02:23,216 --> 01:02:25,150
He took his camera.
975
01:02:32,683 --> 01:02:36,050
To protest the Diem regime's
repression,
976
01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:42,550
a 73-year-old monk named
Quang Duc set himself on fire.
977
01:03:00,150 --> 01:03:05,283
As a large, hushed crowd watched
him burn to death,
978
01:03:05,383 --> 01:03:08,816
another monk repeated
over and over again
979
01:03:08,916 --> 01:03:11,850
in English and Vietnamese,
980
01:03:11,950 --> 01:03:14,883
"A Buddhist monk becomes
a martyr.
981
01:03:14,983 --> 01:03:17,616
A Buddhist monk
becomes a martyr."
982
01:03:24,416 --> 01:03:27,283
SHEEHAN:
I remember they held the ashes
983
01:03:27,383 --> 01:03:29,883
of the monk who burned himself
to death
984
01:03:29,983 --> 01:03:32,983
where it was kept in one
of the main pagodas.
985
01:03:33,083 --> 01:03:39,183
And lines of people came to pass
by, and I saw these women,
986
01:03:39,283 --> 01:03:42,250
not rich women, ordinary
Vietnamese women,
987
01:03:42,350 --> 01:03:45,316
take off the one piece of gold
they had on, their wedding ring,
988
01:03:45,416 --> 01:03:50,316
and drop it in the bottle
to contribute to the struggle.
989
01:03:50,416 --> 01:03:54,250
And I thought to myself,
"This regime is over.
990
01:03:54,350 --> 01:03:55,416
It's the end."
991
01:03:59,516 --> 01:04:02,116
NARRATOR:
Soon other monks
would become martyrs.
992
01:04:05,383 --> 01:04:10,916
Fresh outbursts by Madame Nhu
only made things worse.
993
01:04:11,016 --> 01:04:14,483
Burning monks made her clap
her hands, she said.
994
01:04:14,583 --> 01:04:17,150
If more monks wanted
to burn themselves,
995
01:04:17,250 --> 01:04:20,350
she would provide the matches.
996
01:04:20,450 --> 01:04:22,316
The only thing they have done,
997
01:04:22,416 --> 01:04:28,116
they have barbecued
one of their monks,
998
01:04:28,216 --> 01:04:33,750
whom they have intoxicated, whom
they have abused the confidence.
999
01:04:33,850 --> 01:04:38,150
And even that barbecuing
was done
1000
01:04:38,250 --> 01:04:40,483
not even with self-sufficient
means
1001
01:04:40,583 --> 01:04:43,616
because they-they used
imported gasoline.
1002
01:04:45,316 --> 01:04:47,950
DUONG VAN MAI:
They thought she was arrogant,
1003
01:04:48,050 --> 01:04:49,516
she was power hungry.
1004
01:04:49,616 --> 01:04:52,883
They suspected her and her
husband of being corrupt.
1005
01:04:52,983 --> 01:04:59,250
Nhu ran the secret police, which
arrested and tortured people.
1006
01:04:59,350 --> 01:05:02,550
People feared the Diem regime.
1007
01:05:02,650 --> 01:05:06,216
Perhaps more than they feared
it, they really hated it.
1008
01:05:08,483 --> 01:05:11,116
NARRATOR:
Students, including
many Catholics,
1009
01:05:11,216 --> 01:05:13,683
rallied to the Buddhist cause.
1010
01:05:13,783 --> 01:05:16,983
So did some army officers.
1011
01:05:17,083 --> 01:05:21,350
People among the military
had to ask the question,
1012
01:05:21,450 --> 01:05:24,750
"Can we continue this kind
of situation like that
1013
01:05:24,850 --> 01:05:28,250
"when the whole country,
country was almost burning
1014
01:05:28,350 --> 01:05:29,983
with the kind of protest
from the Buddhists?"
1015
01:05:30,083 --> 01:05:31,016
You see?
1016
01:05:34,683 --> 01:05:38,616
ZIMMERMAN:
I first became aware of Vietnam
because of a burning monk.
1017
01:05:41,150 --> 01:05:45,950
We had watched the civil rights
movement in the South
1018
01:05:46,050 --> 01:05:48,950
and it had set the standard
for us
1019
01:05:49,050 --> 01:05:55,383
to stand up against injustice,
allow yourself to be beaten up,
1020
01:05:55,483 --> 01:05:57,783
allow yourself to be attacked
by a dog
1021
01:05:57,883 --> 01:06:00,216
or hit by a police truncheon.
1022
01:06:00,316 --> 01:06:02,183
And we had enormous respect
1023
01:06:02,283 --> 01:06:05,416
for people who were willing
to go that far.
1024
01:06:09,816 --> 01:06:12,716
And then one day in 1963,
1025
01:06:12,816 --> 01:06:17,250
we saw on television
a picture of a monk in Saigon.
1026
01:06:18,683 --> 01:06:20,816
This was an extraordinary act.
1027
01:06:23,216 --> 01:06:26,016
Why was a Buddhist monk
burning himself
1028
01:06:26,116 --> 01:06:28,850
on the streets of Saigon?
1029
01:06:31,583 --> 01:06:33,983
NARRATOR:
The protests continued.
1030
01:06:34,083 --> 01:06:38,916
Tensions between Washington
and Saigon steadily worsened.
1031
01:06:39,016 --> 01:06:42,916
The more the Kennedy
Administration demanded change,
1032
01:06:43,016 --> 01:06:46,983
the more Diem and his brother
Nhu seemed to resist.
1033
01:06:48,650 --> 01:06:51,383
The White House announced that
a new American ambassador,
1034
01:06:51,483 --> 01:06:56,616
former senator Henry Cabot
Lodge, was being sent to Saigon,
1035
01:06:56,716 --> 01:06:59,183
a man eminent enough,
the president hoped,
1036
01:06:59,283 --> 01:07:04,350
to make Diem listen more closely
to American advice.
1037
01:07:04,450 --> 01:07:08,216
Diem professed to be
unimpressed.
1038
01:07:08,316 --> 01:07:10,950
"They can send ten Lodges,"
he said,
1039
01:07:11,050 --> 01:07:14,983
"but I will not let myself
or my country be humiliated,
1040
01:07:15,083 --> 01:07:18,850
not if they train their
artillery on this palace."
1041
01:07:18,950 --> 01:07:23,516
He did promise the outgoing
ambassador, Frederick Nolting,
1042
01:07:23,616 --> 01:07:26,350
that he would take no further
repressive steps
1043
01:07:26,450 --> 01:07:28,016
against the Buddhists.
1044
01:07:29,783 --> 01:07:35,016
Then, a few minutes after
midnight on August 21, 1963,
1045
01:07:35,116 --> 01:07:38,583
with Nolting gone and
Henry Cabot Lodge's arrival
1046
01:07:38,683 --> 01:07:42,216
still one day away,
Diem cut the phone lines
1047
01:07:42,316 --> 01:07:45,650
of all the senior American
officials in Saigon
1048
01:07:45,749 --> 01:07:49,283
and sent hundreds
of his Special Forces
1049
01:07:49,383 --> 01:07:53,183
storming into Buddhist pagodas
in Saigon, Hue,
1050
01:07:53,283 --> 01:07:56,483
and several other
South Vietnamese cities.
1051
01:07:56,583 --> 01:07:59,350
Some 1,400 monks and nuns,
1052
01:07:59,450 --> 01:08:05,050
students and ordinary citizens
were rounded up and taken away.
1053
01:08:05,150 --> 01:08:08,716
(shouting)
1054
01:08:12,883 --> 01:08:17,316
Martial law was imposed,
public meetings were forbidden,
1055
01:08:17,416 --> 01:08:21,816
troops were authorized to shoot
anyone found on the streets
1056
01:08:21,916 --> 01:08:23,550
after 9:00.
1057
01:08:23,650 --> 01:08:26,950
PETER ROBERTS:
Tanks guard a pagoda in Saigon
1058
01:08:27,050 --> 01:08:29,716
during South Vietnam's
bafflingly complicated crisis
1059
01:08:29,816 --> 01:08:32,816
that has the government of
President Ngo Dinh Diem,
1060
01:08:32,916 --> 01:08:36,650
students, and Buddhists,
and the United States government
1061
01:08:36,750 --> 01:08:40,350
all trying to guess one
another's next move.
1062
01:08:40,450 --> 01:08:44,250
NARRATOR:
When college students protested
in support of the monks,
1063
01:08:44,350 --> 01:08:47,883
Diem closed Vietnam's
universities.
1064
01:08:47,983 --> 01:08:51,750
High school students
then poured into the streets.
1065
01:08:51,850 --> 01:08:54,416
He shut down
all the high schools
1066
01:08:54,516 --> 01:08:55,683
and the grammar schools, too,
1067
01:08:55,783 --> 01:08:59,016
and arrested thousands
of school children,
1068
01:08:59,116 --> 01:09:01,983
including the sons and daughters
of officials
1069
01:09:02,083 --> 01:09:04,050
in his own government.
1070
01:09:04,150 --> 01:09:07,216
PHAN QUANG TUE:
I participated
in the demonstrations.
1071
01:09:07,316 --> 01:09:14,183
I strongly believed that that
government has to be overthrown
1072
01:09:14,283 --> 01:09:16,383
because it's a dictator
government.
1073
01:09:16,483 --> 01:09:18,450
We couldn't stand it anymore
1074
01:09:18,550 --> 01:09:22,216
and this is an opportunity
to rise against it.
1075
01:09:22,316 --> 01:09:26,283
NARRATOR:
Phan Quang Tue was a law student
that summer.
1076
01:09:26,383 --> 01:09:30,283
His father was a prominent
nationalist whom Diem had jailed
1077
01:09:30,383 --> 01:09:33,616
for calling for
greater democracy.
1078
01:09:33,716 --> 01:09:37,216
PHAN QUANG TUE:
I was and I'm still a Catholic,
1079
01:09:37,316 --> 01:09:39,550
not a very good Catholic.
1080
01:09:39,650 --> 01:09:41,483
I don't practice religiously.
1081
01:09:41,583 --> 01:09:43,483
But I'm a Catholic.
1082
01:09:44,983 --> 01:09:46,416
I was rightly arrested
1083
01:09:46,516 --> 01:09:49,583
because I did participate
in demonstration.
1084
01:09:49,683 --> 01:09:52,583
And I was interrogated
1085
01:09:52,683 --> 01:09:55,750
and briefly tortured,
beaten a little bit.
1086
01:10:00,050 --> 01:10:02,850
HERLIHY:
Henry Cabot Lodge took over
as U.S. ambassador
1087
01:10:02,950 --> 01:10:04,416
in the midst of the turmoil.
1088
01:10:04,516 --> 01:10:05,850
And he has reported
to have demanded
1089
01:10:05,950 --> 01:10:08,116
that President Diem's brother
Nhu be ousted
1090
01:10:08,216 --> 01:10:10,583
or U.S. aid to Vietnam
will be cut.
1091
01:10:13,950 --> 01:10:15,850
NARRATOR:
In the wake of the pagoda raids,
1092
01:10:15,950 --> 01:10:18,316
a small group of South
Vietnamese generals
1093
01:10:18,416 --> 01:10:21,983
contacted the CIA in Saigon.
1094
01:10:22,083 --> 01:10:25,516
Diem's brother Nhu was now
largely in control
1095
01:10:25,616 --> 01:10:27,583
of the government, they said.
1096
01:10:27,683 --> 01:10:32,316
What would Washington's reaction
be if they mounted a coup?
1097
01:10:32,416 --> 01:10:35,416
President Kennedy
and his senior advisors
1098
01:10:35,516 --> 01:10:40,316
happened to be out of town,
so Roger Hilsman, Jr.,
1099
01:10:40,416 --> 01:10:43,883
assistant secretary of state
for Far Eastern affairs
1100
01:10:43,983 --> 01:10:46,283
and a critic of the Diem regime,
1101
01:10:46,383 --> 01:10:50,416
took it upon himself to draft
a cable with new instructions
1102
01:10:50,516 --> 01:10:53,350
for Ambassador Lodge.
1103
01:10:53,450 --> 01:10:57,316
The U.S. government could
no longer tolerate a situation
1104
01:10:57,416 --> 01:11:01,583
in which power lay in Nhu's
hands, it said.
1105
01:11:01,683 --> 01:11:04,916
Diem should be given a chance
to rid himself of his brother.
1106
01:11:06,350 --> 01:11:09,883
If he refused, Lodge was
to tell the generals,
1107
01:11:09,983 --> 01:11:13,483
"then we must face the
possibility that Diem himself
1108
01:11:13,583 --> 01:11:17,350
cannot be preserved."
1109
01:11:17,450 --> 01:11:21,083
The president was vacationing at
Hyannis Port, Massachusetts.
1110
01:11:21,183 --> 01:11:25,050
Undersecretary of State George
Ball read part of the cable
1111
01:11:25,150 --> 01:11:28,216
to him over the phone.
1112
01:11:28,316 --> 01:11:30,483
Since the early 1950s,
1113
01:11:30,583 --> 01:11:32,150
the United States government
had encouraged
1114
01:11:32,250 --> 01:11:38,483
and even orchestrated other Cold
War coups in Iran, Guatemala,
1115
01:11:38,583 --> 01:11:42,983
the Congo, and elsewhere.
1116
01:11:43,083 --> 01:11:46,916
Kennedy decided to approve
Hilsman's cable
1117
01:11:47,016 --> 01:11:50,150
in part because he thought
his top advisors
1118
01:11:50,250 --> 01:11:52,283
had already endorsed it.
1119
01:11:52,383 --> 01:11:55,183
They had not.
1120
01:11:55,283 --> 01:12:00,383
And somehow, because of a cable
that came out from Washington,
1121
01:12:00,483 --> 01:12:03,783
Lodge decided that the only
solution was to get rid
1122
01:12:03,883 --> 01:12:07,583
of not just Ngo Dinh Nhu,
the bad brother,
1123
01:12:07,683 --> 01:12:10,116
but also of Diem himself.
1124
01:12:10,216 --> 01:12:12,283
And that started us
on this whole business
1125
01:12:12,383 --> 01:12:15,150
of promoting a coup.
1126
01:12:15,250 --> 01:12:18,616
And it was not a good idea.
1127
01:12:18,716 --> 01:12:21,483
I just had a feeling
of impending disaster.
1128
01:12:22,683 --> 01:12:25,283
NARRATOR:
On September 2, 1963,
1129
01:12:25,383 --> 01:12:29,016
Labor Day, Walter Cronkite
of CBS News
1130
01:12:29,116 --> 01:12:31,616
interviewed President Kennedy.
1131
01:12:31,716 --> 01:12:35,716
The president used the
opportunity to deliver a message
1132
01:12:35,816 --> 01:12:37,583
to President Diem.
1133
01:12:37,683 --> 01:12:41,416
Mr. President, the only hot war
we've got running at the moment
1134
01:12:41,516 --> 01:12:43,983
is of course the one in Vietnam,
1135
01:12:44,083 --> 01:12:46,916
and we've got our difficulties
there, quite obviously.
1136
01:12:47,016 --> 01:12:51,516
I don't think that unless
a greater effort is made
1137
01:12:51,616 --> 01:12:53,483
by the government to win
popular support
1138
01:12:53,583 --> 01:12:54,950
that the war can be won
out there.
1139
01:12:55,050 --> 01:12:56,916
In the final analysis,
it's their war.
1140
01:12:57,016 --> 01:13:00,883
Hasn't every indication
from Saigon been
1141
01:13:00,983 --> 01:13:03,016
that President Diem
has no intention
1142
01:13:03,116 --> 01:13:04,016
of changing his pattern?
1143
01:13:04,116 --> 01:13:05,016
If he doesn't change it,
1144
01:13:05,116 --> 01:13:06,950
of course, that's his decision.
1145
01:13:07,050 --> 01:13:09,050
He has been there ten years
and, as I say,
1146
01:13:09,150 --> 01:13:10,416
he has carried this burden
1147
01:13:10,516 --> 01:13:11,850
when he has been counted out
on a number of occasions.
1148
01:13:11,950 --> 01:13:12,950
Our best judgment is
1149
01:13:13,050 --> 01:13:15,550
that he can't be
successful in this basis.
1150
01:13:15,650 --> 01:13:18,216
But I don't agree with those
who say we should withdraw.
1151
01:13:18,316 --> 01:13:19,483
That would be a great mistake.
1152
01:13:19,583 --> 01:13:20,850
That'd be
a great mistake.
1153
01:13:20,950 --> 01:13:22,816
I know people don't like
Americans to be engaged
1154
01:13:22,916 --> 01:13:23,916
in this kind of an effort.
1155
01:13:24,016 --> 01:13:26,383
47 Americans have been killed.
1156
01:13:26,483 --> 01:13:28,383
We're in a very
1157
01:13:28,483 --> 01:13:31,250
desperate struggle
against the communist system.
1158
01:13:31,350 --> 01:13:34,583
And I don't want Asia to pass
into the control of the Chinese.
1159
01:13:34,683 --> 01:13:36,816
Do you think that this
government still has time
1160
01:13:36,916 --> 01:13:39,350
to-to regain the support
of the people?
1161
01:13:39,450 --> 01:13:41,883
I do.
1162
01:13:41,983 --> 01:13:44,683
With changes in policy
and perhaps in personnel,
1163
01:13:44,783 --> 01:13:46,216
I think it can.
1164
01:13:46,316 --> 01:13:49,583
If it doesn't make
those changes,
1165
01:13:49,683 --> 01:13:51,883
I would think that
the chances of winning it
1166
01:13:51,983 --> 01:13:53,650
would not be very good.
1167
01:13:55,383 --> 01:13:58,183
NARRATOR:
Despite the cable,
Kennedy and his advisors
1168
01:13:58,283 --> 01:14:01,616
were sharply
divided about a coup.
1169
01:14:01,716 --> 01:14:06,983
Robert McNamara, Maxwell Taylor,
Vice President Lyndon Johnson,
1170
01:14:07,083 --> 01:14:11,416
and the head of the CIA
all cautioned against it,
1171
01:14:11,516 --> 01:14:14,916
because, while none of them
especially admired Diem,
1172
01:14:15,016 --> 01:14:19,583
they did not believe there was
any viable alternative.
1173
01:14:19,683 --> 01:14:22,650
GREGG:
Fritz Nolting was called in.
1174
01:14:22,750 --> 01:14:25,183
And he said, "As difficult
as they are to deal with,
1175
01:14:25,283 --> 01:14:30,216
"there is nobody with the guts
and sangfroid in Vietnam
1176
01:14:30,316 --> 01:14:32,016
"of Diem and his brother Nhu.
1177
01:14:32,116 --> 01:14:35,483
"And if we let them go
we will be saddled
1178
01:14:35,583 --> 01:14:39,450
by a descending cycle
of mediocre generals."
1179
01:14:39,550 --> 01:14:41,516
And he was absolutely correct.
1180
01:14:43,183 --> 01:14:46,016
NARRATOR:
But several State Department
officials believed
1181
01:14:46,116 --> 01:14:50,850
that without fresh leadership,
South Vietnam could not survive.
1182
01:14:50,950 --> 01:14:54,216
The debate intensified.
1183
01:14:55,383 --> 01:14:57,250
"My God," the president said,
1184
01:14:57,350 --> 01:15:00,683
"my administration
is coming apart."
1185
01:15:00,783 --> 01:15:04,116
In the end,
Kennedy instructed Lodge
1186
01:15:04,216 --> 01:15:06,516
to tell the renegade generals
1187
01:15:06,616 --> 01:15:08,916
that while the United States
does not wish
1188
01:15:09,016 --> 01:15:13,083
to stimulate a coup,
it would not thwart one either.
1189
01:15:14,583 --> 01:15:17,616
The generals laid their plans.
1190
01:15:17,716 --> 01:15:20,216
(gunfire)
1191
01:15:23,950 --> 01:15:29,550
On November 1, 1963,
troops loyal to the plotters
1192
01:15:29,650 --> 01:15:31,750
seized key installations
in Saigon
1193
01:15:31,850 --> 01:15:35,316
and demanded Diem and Nhu
surrender.
1194
01:15:37,850 --> 01:15:40,283
REPORTER:
The battle for the city
went on for 18 hours
1195
01:15:40,383 --> 01:15:43,616
and most of it was centered
on the presidential palace.
1196
01:15:43,716 --> 01:15:47,183
Just after 6:30 in the morning
Saturday, the shooting ceased.
1197
01:15:49,516 --> 01:15:51,383
(people cheering)
1198
01:15:56,116 --> 01:16:01,416
NARRATOR:
Diem and Nhu escaped,
took sanctuary in a church,
1199
01:16:01,516 --> 01:16:04,483
and agreed to surrender
to the rebels in exchange
1200
01:16:04,583 --> 01:16:08,316
for the promise of safe
passage out of the country.
1201
01:16:08,416 --> 01:16:11,883
They were picked up in an
armored personnel carrier...
1202
01:16:11,983 --> 01:16:13,883
(gunshot)
1203
01:16:13,983 --> 01:16:18,083
And murdered soon
after they climbed inside.
1204
01:16:18,183 --> 01:16:19,516
(gunshot)
1205
01:16:22,883 --> 01:16:26,250
Madame Nhu survived the coup.
1206
01:16:26,350 --> 01:16:29,616
She was on a goodwill tour
in the United States.
1207
01:16:34,850 --> 01:16:37,383
PHAN QUANG TUE:
The system was overthrown
on November 1.
1208
01:16:37,483 --> 01:16:40,083
I was released November 4.
1209
01:16:40,183 --> 01:16:46,283
And it was the most exciting
moment in the life of Saigon.
1210
01:16:48,116 --> 01:16:53,383
The excitement,
you could feel it in the air.
1211
01:16:53,483 --> 01:16:57,916
DUONG VAN MAI:
I was thinking that,
yeah, it's a good thing.
1212
01:16:58,016 --> 01:17:01,650
Diem was making it impossible
to win the war
1213
01:17:01,750 --> 01:17:05,216
because people were
so against him
1214
01:17:05,316 --> 01:17:09,816
that the war would be lost
if he stayed in power.
1215
01:17:11,450 --> 01:17:13,516
My father was a bit worried
1216
01:17:13,616 --> 01:17:15,716
because he didn't know
who was going to replace Diem.
1217
01:17:18,516 --> 01:17:21,050
NARRATOR:
Ambassador Lodge reported
to Washington
1218
01:17:21,150 --> 01:17:25,683
that "every Vietnamese has
a smile on his face today."
1219
01:17:25,783 --> 01:17:29,383
"The prospects are now for
a shorter war," he said,
1220
01:17:29,483 --> 01:17:32,350
"provided the generals
stay together.
1221
01:17:32,450 --> 01:17:35,183
"Certainly officers
and soldiers
1222
01:17:35,283 --> 01:17:38,383
who can pull off an operation
like this," he continued,
1223
01:17:38,483 --> 01:17:41,816
"should be able to do
very well on the battlefield
1224
01:17:41,916 --> 01:17:44,383
if their hearts are in it."
1225
01:17:47,150 --> 01:17:50,283
President Kennedy was
not so sure.
1226
01:17:50,383 --> 01:17:54,616
He was appalled that Diem
and Nhu had been killed.
1227
01:17:54,716 --> 01:17:58,316
Three days later, he dictated
his own rueful account
1228
01:17:58,416 --> 01:18:02,550
of the coup and his
concerns for the future.
1229
01:18:04,150 --> 01:18:07,950
KENNEDY:
Monday, November 4, 1963.
1230
01:18:08,050 --> 01:18:10,983
Over the weekend the
coup in Saigon took place.
1231
01:18:11,083 --> 01:18:13,850
It culminated three months
of conversation,
1232
01:18:13,950 --> 01:18:19,116
which divided the government
here and in Saigon.
1233
01:18:19,216 --> 01:18:24,316
I feel that we must bear a good
deal of responsibility for it,
1234
01:18:24,416 --> 01:18:27,350
beginning
with our cable of August
1235
01:18:27,450 --> 01:18:30,050
in which we suggested the coup.
1236
01:18:30,150 --> 01:18:32,950
I should not have given
my consent to it
1237
01:18:33,050 --> 01:18:35,316
without a roundtable conference.
1238
01:18:37,350 --> 01:18:42,716
I was shocked by the death
of Diem and Nhu.
1239
01:18:42,816 --> 01:18:46,850
The way he was killed made it
particularly abhorrent.
1240
01:18:46,950 --> 01:18:49,483
The question now is whether
the generals can stay together
1241
01:18:49,583 --> 01:18:53,350
and build a stable government or
whether public opinion in Saigon
1242
01:18:53,450 --> 01:18:57,116
will turn on this government
as repressive and undemocratic
1243
01:18:57,216 --> 01:18:59,150
in the not-too-distant future.
1244
01:19:04,183 --> 01:19:06,483
NARRATOR:
Kennedy would not live
to see the answer
1245
01:19:06,583 --> 01:19:09,083
to the question he had asked.
1246
01:19:09,183 --> 01:19:13,583
He was murdered in Dallas
18 days later.
1247
01:19:13,683 --> 01:19:18,650
There were now 16,000 American
advisors in South Vietnam.
1248
01:19:18,750 --> 01:19:24,083
Their fate and the fate of
that embattled country rested
1249
01:19:24,183 --> 01:19:29,350
with another American president,
Lyndon Baines Johnson.
1250
01:19:29,450 --> 01:19:33,416
(distorted rock music playing)
1251
01:19:46,850 --> 01:19:48,983
SHEEHAN:
We thought we were the
exceptions to history,
1252
01:19:49,083 --> 01:19:50,550
we Americans.
1253
01:19:50,650 --> 01:19:53,283
History didn't apply to us.
1254
01:19:53,383 --> 01:19:55,516
We could never fight a bad war.
1255
01:19:55,616 --> 01:19:57,483
We could never represent
the wrong cause.
1256
01:19:57,583 --> 01:19:58,716
We were Americans.
1257
01:19:59,916 --> 01:20:01,150
Well, in Vietnam it proved
1258
01:20:01,250 --> 01:20:03,750
that we were not
an exception to history.
1259
01:20:04,983 --> 01:20:07,283
(distorted rock music continues)
1260
01:20:16,250 --> 01:20:18,650
("Mean Old World"
by Sam Cooke playing)
1261
01:20:22,950 --> 01:20:31,716
♪ This is a mean old world
to live in all by yourself ♪
1262
01:20:36,450 --> 01:20:42,683
♪ This is a mean old world
to live in ♪
1263
01:20:42,783 --> 01:20:45,483
♪ All by yourself
1264
01:20:49,316 --> 01:20:56,350
♪ This is a mean world
to be alone ♪
1265
01:20:56,450 --> 01:21:02,383
♪ Without someone
to call your own ♪
1266
01:21:02,483 --> 01:21:08,483
♪ This is a mean old world
to try and live in ♪
1267
01:21:08,583 --> 01:21:11,050
♪ All by yourself
1268
01:21:15,283 --> 01:21:21,383
♪ I wish I had someone,
someone ♪
1269
01:21:21,483 --> 01:21:23,716
♪ Who'd love me true
1270
01:21:28,150 --> 01:21:38,350
♪ I wish I had someone
who loved me true ♪
1271
01:21:40,983 --> 01:21:47,350
♪ If I had someone
who loved me true ♪
1272
01:21:47,450 --> 01:21:53,950
♪ Then I know I wouldn't be
so blue ♪
1273
01:21:54,050 --> 01:22:00,616
♪ This is a mean old world
to try and live in ♪
1274
01:22:00,716 --> 01:22:03,216
♪ All by yourself
1275
01:22:05,483 --> 01:22:13,650
♪ Lord, I find myself dreaming
1276
01:22:13,750 --> 01:22:15,983
♪ I found a love
1277
01:22:19,383 --> 01:22:26,650
♪ Sometimes I find myself
dreaming ♪
1278
01:22:26,750 --> 01:22:30,050
♪ I found a love
1279
01:22:32,450 --> 01:22:40,350
♪ Sometimes I dream
I've really found a love ♪
1280
01:22:40,450 --> 01:22:46,383
♪ Someone who loved me true
as the stars above ♪
1281
01:22:46,483 --> 01:22:51,950
♪ For this is a mean old world
to try and live in ♪
1282
01:22:52,050 --> 01:22:56,250
♪ All by yourself.