1 00:00:11,850 --> 00:00:15,250 (distant helicopter blades beating) 2 00:00:15,350 --> 00:00:17,016 (radio feedback) 3 00:00:19,483 --> 00:00:25,083 JOHN MUSGRAVE: I was assigned a listening post at Con Thien in the fall. 4 00:00:25,183 --> 00:00:29,083 That was like getting a death sentence at a trial. 5 00:00:29,183 --> 00:00:31,516 Because that's just three Marines out there with a radio. 6 00:00:32,983 --> 00:00:34,616 And that's the scariest thing I did. 7 00:00:34,716 --> 00:00:37,416 You're listening for the enemy. 8 00:00:37,516 --> 00:00:40,550 They call you on the radio every hour, 9 00:00:40,650 --> 00:00:41,983 "Delta, Lima, Papa, Three, Bravo, 10 00:00:42,083 --> 00:00:45,383 "Delta, Lima, Papa, Three, Bravo, this is Delta Three. 11 00:00:45,483 --> 00:00:48,550 "If your sit rep is alpha sierra, key your handset twice. 12 00:00:48,650 --> 00:00:49,916 (two blips of static) 13 00:00:50,016 --> 00:00:51,616 "If your situation report is all secure, 14 00:00:51,716 --> 00:00:53,316 break squelch twice on the handset." 15 00:00:53,416 --> 00:00:55,316 (two lower-toned blips of static) 16 00:00:55,416 --> 00:00:57,416 And if it's not, they keep thinking you're asleep 17 00:00:57,516 --> 00:01:00,050 so they keep asking you, "If your sit rep is alpha sierra," 18 00:01:00,150 --> 00:01:01,483 and then it finally dawns on them 19 00:01:01,583 --> 00:01:04,116 maybe there's somebody too close for you to say anything. 20 00:01:04,216 --> 00:01:07,150 So then they say, "If your sit rep is negative alpha sierra, 21 00:01:07,250 --> 00:01:08,616 key your handset once," 22 00:01:08,716 --> 00:01:10,583 and you damn near squeeze the handle off the, you know, 23 00:01:10,683 --> 00:01:13,816 and two on the radio because they're so close 24 00:01:13,916 --> 00:01:15,950 that you can hear them whispering to one another. 25 00:01:18,383 --> 00:01:19,783 And that's scary stuff. 26 00:01:19,883 --> 00:01:21,050 That's real scary stuff. 27 00:01:21,150 --> 00:01:24,783 And I'm scared of the dark, still. 28 00:01:24,883 --> 00:01:27,716 I still got a night light. 29 00:01:27,816 --> 00:01:31,016 When my kids were growing up, 30 00:01:31,116 --> 00:01:34,750 that's the first time they really found out 31 00:01:34,850 --> 00:01:36,916 that Daddy'd been in a war when they said, 32 00:01:37,016 --> 00:01:39,483 "Well, why do we need to outgrow our night lights? 33 00:01:39,583 --> 00:01:40,950 Daddy's still got one." 34 00:01:45,850 --> 00:01:47,816 ("So What" by Miles Davis playing) 35 00:01:47,916 --> 00:01:52,016 JOHN KENNEDY: Let the word go forth from this time and place, 36 00:01:52,116 --> 00:01:54,950 to friend and foe alike, 37 00:01:55,050 --> 00:01:59,150 that the torch has been passed to a new generation 38 00:01:59,250 --> 00:02:05,916 of Americans born in this century, tempered by war, 39 00:02:06,016 --> 00:02:09,616 disciplined by a hard and bitter peace, 40 00:02:09,716 --> 00:02:11,083 proud of our... 41 00:02:11,183 --> 00:02:12,950 JACK TODD: I still believed, very much, 42 00:02:13,050 --> 00:02:17,716 in this concept of an heroic America, 43 00:02:17,816 --> 00:02:20,450 America being a really special country, 44 00:02:20,550 --> 00:02:23,716 the best country in the world, the best democracy, 45 00:02:23,816 --> 00:02:27,750 all the things that we believe about it, which... 46 00:02:27,850 --> 00:02:29,950 and I didn't really see anything wrong with that. 47 00:02:32,683 --> 00:02:37,183 I was sure that we were right to be in Vietnam. 48 00:02:37,283 --> 00:02:39,416 You know, because it started under Kennedy 49 00:02:39,516 --> 00:02:41,950 and, to me, JFK was God. 50 00:02:42,050 --> 00:02:45,416 Anything that he thought was right, I thought was right. 51 00:02:47,683 --> 00:02:51,783 NARRATOR: At 43, John Fitzgerald Kennedy was the youngest man 52 00:02:51,883 --> 00:02:55,416 ever elected president of the United States. 53 00:02:55,516 --> 00:02:57,883 He had promised bold new leadership, 54 00:02:57,983 --> 00:03:01,316 and to his supporters his inauguration seemed to signal 55 00:03:01,416 --> 00:03:04,150 a new day. 56 00:03:04,250 --> 00:03:07,183 To those new states whom we welcome 57 00:03:07,283 --> 00:03:10,083 to the ranks of the free, 58 00:03:10,183 --> 00:03:16,116 we pledge our word that one form of colonial control 59 00:03:16,216 --> 00:03:18,650 shall not have passed away 60 00:03:18,750 --> 00:03:23,883 merely to be replaced by a far more iron tyranny. 61 00:03:23,983 --> 00:03:29,083 We shall not always expect to find them supporting our view. 62 00:03:29,183 --> 00:03:33,616 But we shall always hope to find them strongly supporting 63 00:03:33,716 --> 00:03:39,083 their own freedom and to remember that, in the past, 64 00:03:39,183 --> 00:03:42,550 those who foolishly sought power 65 00:03:42,650 --> 00:03:46,916 by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside. 66 00:03:50,750 --> 00:03:53,083 (cheers and applause) 67 00:03:55,283 --> 00:03:57,550 NARRATOR: The new president gathered around him 68 00:03:57,650 --> 00:04:01,450 an extraordinary set of advisors who shared his determination 69 00:04:01,550 --> 00:04:06,550 to confront communism, including Secretary of State Dean Rusk, 70 00:04:06,650 --> 00:04:10,383 National Security Advisor McGeorge Bundy, 71 00:04:10,483 --> 00:04:13,116 his deputy Walt Rostow, 72 00:04:13,216 --> 00:04:17,583 special military advisor General Maxwell Taylor, 73 00:04:17,683 --> 00:04:21,216 and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, 74 00:04:21,316 --> 00:04:22,883 who had given up his post 75 00:04:22,983 --> 00:04:26,916 as president of the Ford Motor Company to serve his country. 76 00:04:27,016 --> 00:04:33,016 He was a pioneer in the field of systems analysis. 77 00:04:33,116 --> 00:04:35,916 Like the president who picked them, 78 00:04:36,016 --> 00:04:40,116 all of Kennedy's men had served during World War II. 79 00:04:40,216 --> 00:04:42,450 Each had absorbed what they all believed 80 00:04:42,550 --> 00:04:44,416 was its central lesson: 81 00:04:44,516 --> 00:04:48,516 ambitious dictatorships needed to be halted in their tracks 82 00:04:48,616 --> 00:04:51,783 before they constituted a serious danger 83 00:04:51,883 --> 00:04:53,916 to the peace of the world. 84 00:04:54,016 --> 00:04:57,183 Meanwhile, in South Vietnam, 85 00:04:57,283 --> 00:04:59,283 the National Liberation Front-- 86 00:04:59,383 --> 00:05:02,250 labeled by its enemies the Viet Cong-- 87 00:05:02,350 --> 00:05:04,616 was determined to overthrow 88 00:05:04,716 --> 00:05:07,783 the anticommunist and increasingly autocratic 89 00:05:07,883 --> 00:05:11,083 government of Ngo Dinh Diem. 90 00:05:11,183 --> 00:05:15,250 In North Vietnam, unbeknownst to Washington, 91 00:05:15,350 --> 00:05:19,250 Ho Chi Minh, the father of Vietnamese independence, 92 00:05:19,350 --> 00:05:22,550 was now sharing power with a more aggressive leader, 93 00:05:22,650 --> 00:05:25,550 Le Duan, who was even more impatient 94 00:05:25,650 --> 00:05:28,050 to reunify his country. 95 00:05:29,483 --> 00:05:31,116 BAO NINH: 96 00:05:48,316 --> 00:05:51,816 LESLIE GELB: None of us knew anything about Vietnam. 97 00:05:51,916 --> 00:05:56,016 Vietnam in those days was a piece on a chessboard, 98 00:05:56,116 --> 00:05:58,183 a strategic chessboard, 99 00:05:58,283 --> 00:06:02,150 not a place with a culture and a history 100 00:06:02,250 --> 00:06:07,716 that we would have an impossible time changing, 101 00:06:07,816 --> 00:06:10,683 even with the mighty force of the United States. 102 00:06:10,783 --> 00:06:15,383 NARRATOR: Over the next three years, the United States would struggle 103 00:06:15,483 --> 00:06:19,883 to understand the complicated country it had come to save, 104 00:06:19,983 --> 00:06:23,050 fail to appreciate the enemy's resolve, 105 00:06:23,150 --> 00:06:26,783 and misread how the South Vietnamese people really felt 106 00:06:26,883 --> 00:06:28,850 about their government. 107 00:06:30,750 --> 00:06:32,950 The new president would find himself caught 108 00:06:33,050 --> 00:06:37,616 between the momentum of war and the desire for peace, 109 00:06:37,716 --> 00:06:40,683 between humility and hubris, 110 00:06:40,783 --> 00:06:47,149 between idealism and expediency, between the truth and a lie. 111 00:06:58,783 --> 00:07:03,983 ("My Country 'Tis of Thee" playing) 112 00:07:07,383 --> 00:07:10,550 KENNEDY: And so, my fellow Americans, 113 00:07:10,650 --> 00:07:15,716 ask not what your country can do for you, 114 00:07:15,816 --> 00:07:18,116 ask what you can do for your country. 115 00:07:24,950 --> 00:07:28,816 MUSGRAVE: I grew up in Missouri, near Kansas City, 116 00:07:28,916 --> 00:07:31,983 a little community called Fairmount. 117 00:07:32,083 --> 00:07:33,516 I was born in 1948. 118 00:07:33,616 --> 00:07:36,116 And there were lots of kids being born in those days 119 00:07:36,216 --> 00:07:37,750 from the guys who were lucky enough to come home 120 00:07:37,850 --> 00:07:38,816 from World War II. 121 00:07:40,083 --> 00:07:43,416 My dad was a pilot in the Army Air Corps. 122 00:07:43,516 --> 00:07:46,216 And all of dad's friends 123 00:07:46,316 --> 00:07:49,350 were World War II vets or Korean vets. 124 00:07:49,450 --> 00:07:52,050 And all of my male teachers were veterans. 125 00:07:52,150 --> 00:07:54,550 And even my pastor had been a chaplain. 126 00:07:56,083 --> 00:08:00,883 Well, they were my heroes, and I wanted to be like them. 127 00:08:07,916 --> 00:08:10,783 NARRATOR: For all of John Kennedy's soaring rhetoric, 128 00:08:10,883 --> 00:08:13,450 for all the talent he gathered around him, 129 00:08:13,550 --> 00:08:16,783 the first months of his presidency did not go well. 130 00:08:16,883 --> 00:08:21,216 He approved a CIA-sponsored invasion of Cuba 131 00:08:21,316 --> 00:08:25,783 at the Bay of Pigs that ended in disaster. 132 00:08:25,883 --> 00:08:27,683 He felt he'd been bullied 133 00:08:27,783 --> 00:08:30,116 by Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev 134 00:08:30,216 --> 00:08:32,483 at a summit meeting in Vienna. 135 00:08:32,583 --> 00:08:34,850 He was unable to keep the Soviets 136 00:08:34,950 --> 00:08:37,216 from building the Berlin Wall. 137 00:08:37,316 --> 00:08:41,450 And in Southeast Asia, he refused to intervene 138 00:08:41,550 --> 00:08:44,683 against a communist insurrection in Laos. 139 00:08:44,783 --> 00:08:49,316 Critics accused him of being immature, indecisive, 140 00:08:49,416 --> 00:08:53,016 inadequate to the task of combating what seemed to be 141 00:08:53,116 --> 00:08:55,516 a mounting communist threat. 142 00:08:55,616 --> 00:08:59,050 "There are just so many concessions that we can make 143 00:08:59,150 --> 00:09:01,550 in one year and survive politically," 144 00:09:01,650 --> 00:09:06,316 he confided to an aide in the spring of 1961. 145 00:09:06,416 --> 00:09:11,650 In South Vietnam, Kennedy felt he had to act. 146 00:09:11,750 --> 00:09:14,416 After the president received reports 147 00:09:14,516 --> 00:09:16,983 that the Viet Cong might be in control 148 00:09:17,083 --> 00:09:21,016 of more than half the densely populated Mekong Delta, 149 00:09:21,116 --> 00:09:25,116 he dispatched General Maxwell Taylor and Walt Rostow 150 00:09:25,216 --> 00:09:27,283 to Vietnam. 151 00:09:27,383 --> 00:09:31,116 They urged him to commit American ground troops. 152 00:09:31,216 --> 00:09:32,783 Kennedy refused. 153 00:09:32,883 --> 00:09:36,516 It would be like taking a first drink, he said-- 154 00:09:36,616 --> 00:09:39,683 the effect would soon wear off and there would be demands 155 00:09:39,783 --> 00:09:43,116 for another and another and another. 156 00:09:43,216 --> 00:09:46,583 Instead, in the midst of a cold war, 157 00:09:46,683 --> 00:09:49,850 with its constant risk of nuclear confrontation, 158 00:09:49,950 --> 00:09:53,183 the president supported a new "flexible" way 159 00:09:53,283 --> 00:09:58,750 to confront and contain communism: limited war. 160 00:09:58,850 --> 00:10:03,550 This is another type of warfare, new in its intensity, 161 00:10:03,650 --> 00:10:06,183 ancient in its origin-- 162 00:10:06,283 --> 00:10:11,116 war by guerrillas, subversives, insurgents, assassins; 163 00:10:11,216 --> 00:10:15,616 war by ambush instead of by combat; 164 00:10:15,716 --> 00:10:18,250 by infiltration instead of aggression. 165 00:10:19,983 --> 00:10:22,383 NARRATOR: To fight his "limited wars," 166 00:10:22,483 --> 00:10:25,350 Kennedy hoped to use the elite Green Berets, 167 00:10:25,450 --> 00:10:28,916 special forces trained in guerrilla warfare, 168 00:10:29,016 --> 00:10:31,550 counterinsurgency. 169 00:10:31,650 --> 00:10:36,350 They were meant to be dispatched to hotspots around the world. 170 00:10:36,450 --> 00:10:39,183 ROBERT RHEAULT: Khrushchev said, "We're not going to destroy you 171 00:10:39,283 --> 00:10:40,683 with nuclear weapons, 172 00:10:40,783 --> 00:10:43,816 we're going to destroy you with wars of national liberation." 173 00:10:43,916 --> 00:10:45,816 Everybody talked about the fact 174 00:10:45,916 --> 00:10:50,583 that communism was spreading and it had to be stopped. 175 00:10:50,683 --> 00:10:53,350 You went to Command and General Staff College 176 00:10:53,450 --> 00:10:56,950 and you were playing on maps with nuclear weapons 177 00:10:57,050 --> 00:10:58,650 and so forth. 178 00:10:58,750 --> 00:11:03,616 And I escaped from that by getting into Special Forces. 179 00:11:03,716 --> 00:11:06,350 So that instead of planning what we were going to do 180 00:11:06,450 --> 00:11:11,383 if World War III broke out, we were actually doing stuff. 181 00:11:12,916 --> 00:11:16,350 And Vietnam was a place where we were going to draw the line. 182 00:11:18,016 --> 00:11:19,716 NARRATOR: Kennedy sent the Green Berets 183 00:11:19,816 --> 00:11:22,050 to the Central Highlands of Vietnam 184 00:11:22,150 --> 00:11:25,716 to organize mountain tribes to fight the Viet Cong 185 00:11:25,816 --> 00:11:30,483 and to undertake covert missions to sabotage their supply bases 186 00:11:30,583 --> 00:11:33,583 in Laos and Cambodia. 187 00:11:33,683 --> 00:11:38,116 But Kennedy understood that counterinsurgency alone 188 00:11:38,216 --> 00:11:39,283 would never be enough, 189 00:11:39,383 --> 00:11:42,816 so he doubled funding for South Vietnam's army, 190 00:11:42,916 --> 00:11:48,183 dispatched helicopters and APCs, armored personnel carriers. 191 00:11:51,183 --> 00:11:54,916 Kennedy also authorized the use of napalm 192 00:11:55,016 --> 00:11:59,450 and the spraying of defoliants to deny cover to the Viet Cong 193 00:11:59,550 --> 00:12:03,416 and destroy the crops that fed them. 194 00:12:03,516 --> 00:12:06,583 A whole array of chemicals was used, 195 00:12:06,683 --> 00:12:10,050 including one named for the color of the stripes 196 00:12:10,150 --> 00:12:16,150 on the 55-gallon drums in which it came-- "Agent Orange." 197 00:12:16,250 --> 00:12:19,750 And the president quietly continued to increase 198 00:12:19,850 --> 00:12:22,716 the number of American military advisors. 199 00:12:22,816 --> 00:12:28,083 Within two years, the number he had inherited would grow 200 00:12:28,183 --> 00:12:31,383 to 11,300, 201 00:12:31,483 --> 00:12:33,950 empowered not only to teach 202 00:12:34,050 --> 00:12:36,983 the Army of the Republic of Vietnam-- the ARVN-- 203 00:12:37,083 --> 00:12:39,050 to fight a conventional war, 204 00:12:39,150 --> 00:12:41,316 but to accompany them into battle, 205 00:12:41,416 --> 00:12:44,850 a violation of the agreement that had divided Vietnam 206 00:12:44,950 --> 00:12:45,916 back in 1954. 207 00:12:46,016 --> 00:12:49,583 (gunfire) 208 00:12:49,683 --> 00:12:53,650 The administration did its best to hide from the American people 209 00:12:53,750 --> 00:12:56,083 the scale of the buildup that was taking place 210 00:12:56,183 --> 00:12:57,950 on the other side of the world, 211 00:12:58,050 --> 00:13:00,883 fearful that the public would not support 212 00:13:00,983 --> 00:13:07,816 the more active role advisors had begun to play in combat. 213 00:13:07,916 --> 00:13:10,516 Mr. President, a Republican National Committee publication 214 00:13:10,616 --> 00:13:13,916 has said that you are... have been less than candid 215 00:13:14,016 --> 00:13:17,850 with the American people as to how deeply we are involved 216 00:13:17,950 --> 00:13:19,750 in Vietnam. 217 00:13:19,850 --> 00:13:22,350 Could you throw any more light on that? 218 00:13:22,450 --> 00:13:24,450 We have increased our assistance to the government, 219 00:13:24,550 --> 00:13:26,283 its logistics. 220 00:13:26,383 --> 00:13:28,250 We have not sent combat troops there. 221 00:13:28,350 --> 00:13:31,516 Though the training missions that we have there 222 00:13:31,616 --> 00:13:34,383 have been instructed if they are fired upon to... 223 00:13:34,483 --> 00:13:37,350 they are, would of course, fire back, to protect themselves. 224 00:13:37,450 --> 00:13:39,183 But we have not sent combat troops 225 00:13:39,283 --> 00:13:41,550 in the generally understood sense of the word. 226 00:13:41,650 --> 00:13:47,250 So that I-I feel that we are being as frank as the... 227 00:13:47,350 --> 00:13:48,516 as we can be. 228 00:13:48,616 --> 00:13:50,150 I think we... what I have said to you 229 00:13:50,250 --> 00:13:53,316 is a description of our activity there. 230 00:13:57,883 --> 00:14:01,316 NEIL SHEEHAN: I was a child of the Cold War. 231 00:14:01,416 --> 00:14:04,883 When I got off the plane in Saigon on a humid evening 232 00:14:04,983 --> 00:14:06,816 in April 1962, 233 00:14:06,916 --> 00:14:10,783 I really believed in all the ideology of the Cold War. 234 00:14:10,883 --> 00:14:11,916 On... 235 00:14:12,016 --> 00:14:14,583 That if we lost South Vietnam, 236 00:14:14,683 --> 00:14:17,050 that the rest of Southeast Asia would fall to the communists. 237 00:14:17,150 --> 00:14:20,950 There was an international communist conspiracy. 238 00:14:21,050 --> 00:14:23,483 We believed fervently in this stuff. 239 00:14:23,583 --> 00:14:27,450 NARRATOR: Neil Sheehan was a 25-year-old reporter 240 00:14:27,550 --> 00:14:30,850 for United Press International, UPI. 241 00:14:30,950 --> 00:14:35,016 He had served three years in the Army in Korea and Japan 242 00:14:35,116 --> 00:14:37,850 before deciding to become a newspaperman. 243 00:14:37,950 --> 00:14:42,150 Vietnam was his first full-time overseas assignment, 244 00:14:42,250 --> 00:14:44,083 and his only worry, he remembered, 245 00:14:44,183 --> 00:14:46,850 was that he would get there too late and miss out 246 00:14:46,950 --> 00:14:48,916 on the big story. 247 00:14:49,016 --> 00:14:53,150 Sheehan and other reporters rode along as the ARVN mounted 248 00:14:53,250 --> 00:14:56,750 a series of helicopter assaults on enemy strongholds 249 00:14:56,850 --> 00:14:59,183 in the Mekong Delta and elsewhere 250 00:14:59,283 --> 00:15:02,716 and brought terror to the Viet Cong. 251 00:15:02,816 --> 00:15:05,816 American pilots were at the controls. 252 00:15:05,916 --> 00:15:10,316 SHEEHAN: It was a crusade and it was thrilling. 253 00:15:10,416 --> 00:15:12,916 And you'd climb aboard the helicopters 254 00:15:13,016 --> 00:15:16,350 with the Vietnamese soldiers who were being taken out to battle. 255 00:15:16,450 --> 00:15:18,016 And they'd take off. 256 00:15:18,116 --> 00:15:20,750 And they'd contour-fly, they'd skim across the rice paddies 257 00:15:20,850 --> 00:15:23,016 at about three or four feet above the paddies, 258 00:15:23,116 --> 00:15:26,983 and then pop up over the tree lines that lined the fields. 259 00:15:27,083 --> 00:15:28,250 It was thrilling. 260 00:15:28,350 --> 00:15:29,583 I mean it was absolutely thrilling. 261 00:15:29,683 --> 00:15:32,683 And you believed in what was happening. 262 00:15:32,783 --> 00:15:34,850 I mean you had the sense that we're fighting here 263 00:15:34,949 --> 00:15:38,750 and some day we'll win, and this country will be a better, 264 00:15:38,850 --> 00:15:39,883 better country for our coming. 265 00:15:41,850 --> 00:15:44,650 NARRATOR: The new M-113 armored personnel carriers 266 00:15:44,750 --> 00:15:48,416 were capable of churning across rivers and rice paddies 267 00:15:48,516 --> 00:15:50,283 and right through the earthen dikes 268 00:15:50,383 --> 00:15:52,683 that separated one field from the next. 269 00:15:54,116 --> 00:15:59,116 The Viet Cong had nothing with which to stop them. 270 00:15:59,216 --> 00:16:04,950 JAMES SCANLON: We were just overwhelming them with force, with firepower. 271 00:16:05,050 --> 00:16:08,350 And the firefights would be over in a pretty short time. 272 00:16:08,450 --> 00:16:11,116 MAN ON RADIO: We have some people running along the dikes. 273 00:16:11,216 --> 00:16:14,150 Actually, the canal is perpendicular 274 00:16:14,250 --> 00:16:15,650 to the one you're attacking now. 275 00:16:15,750 --> 00:16:19,616 They have on black uniforms, and I estimate approximately 3-0. 276 00:16:19,716 --> 00:16:22,283 Do you have them in sight? Over. 277 00:16:22,383 --> 00:16:24,583 SCANLON: That's what was causing us to win, see. 278 00:16:24,683 --> 00:16:27,816 And we were winning one after the other. 279 00:16:27,916 --> 00:16:31,483 And we were not meeting a heck of a lot of resistance. 280 00:16:31,583 --> 00:16:35,316 NARRATOR: Captain James Scanlon had been stationed in West Germany 281 00:16:35,416 --> 00:16:38,516 and had seen for himself the brutality with which 282 00:16:38,616 --> 00:16:41,150 the communist East Germans dealt with anyone 283 00:16:41,250 --> 00:16:44,650 who dared try to escape to the West. 284 00:16:44,750 --> 00:16:46,983 He was now in the Mekong Delta, 285 00:16:47,083 --> 00:16:50,050 an advisor to the 7th Division of the ARVN, 286 00:16:50,150 --> 00:16:54,850 and had begun to see evidence of Viet Cong brutality as well. 287 00:16:58,083 --> 00:17:01,750 SCANLON: Those of us who talked to the people who fled East Germany, 288 00:17:01,850 --> 00:17:05,850 we saw the need to stop the growth of communism, 289 00:17:05,950 --> 00:17:09,350 to stop the dominoes from being tumbled. 290 00:17:09,450 --> 00:17:11,983 That was a worthy cause. 291 00:17:13,483 --> 00:17:17,250 NARRATOR: As the ARVN and their advisors pursued the Viet Cong, 292 00:17:17,350 --> 00:17:19,983 the government of Ngo Dinh Diem had launched 293 00:17:20,083 --> 00:17:24,383 an ambitious program meant to gain control of the countryside 294 00:17:24,483 --> 00:17:27,150 by concentrating the rural population 295 00:17:27,250 --> 00:17:29,816 into thousands of fortified settlements, 296 00:17:29,916 --> 00:17:34,250 ringed with barbed wire and moats and bamboo spikes 297 00:17:34,350 --> 00:17:37,016 meant to keep out the Viet Cong. 298 00:17:37,116 --> 00:17:41,450 They were called strategic hamlets, part of the effort 299 00:17:41,550 --> 00:17:44,616 to win the hearts and minds, and loyalty, 300 00:17:44,716 --> 00:17:46,116 of the Vietnamese people. 301 00:17:46,216 --> 00:17:50,816 The French had tried something like it a decade before. 302 00:17:50,916 --> 00:17:54,850 They had called it pacification. 303 00:17:54,950 --> 00:17:57,516 ROBERT McNAMARA: President Diem's strategic hamlet program 304 00:17:57,616 --> 00:18:00,050 is making substantial progress. 305 00:18:00,150 --> 00:18:04,783 About 1,600 of the some 14,000 hamlets 306 00:18:04,883 --> 00:18:08,450 have been fortified to date. 307 00:18:08,550 --> 00:18:10,750 NARRATOR: By the summer of 1962, 308 00:18:10,850 --> 00:18:14,183 news from South Vietnam seemed so promising 309 00:18:14,283 --> 00:18:18,016 that Defense Secretary Robert McNamara made sure 310 00:18:18,116 --> 00:18:21,183 the Pentagon was prepared to implement a plan 311 00:18:21,283 --> 00:18:24,750 for a gradual withdrawal of American advisors 312 00:18:24,850 --> 00:18:27,416 to be completed by 1965. 313 00:18:27,516 --> 00:18:31,050 So far as most Americans knew, 314 00:18:31,150 --> 00:18:33,983 the United States was achieving its goal: 315 00:18:34,083 --> 00:18:37,350 a stable, independent, anticommunist state 316 00:18:37,450 --> 00:18:39,550 in South Vietnam. 317 00:18:39,650 --> 00:18:44,016 It was "a struggle this country cannot shirk," 318 00:18:44,116 --> 00:18:45,883 theNew York Tim es said, 319 00:18:45,983 --> 00:18:50,383 and the United States seemed to be winning it. 320 00:18:52,050 --> 00:18:55,916 But that same summer, Ho Chi Minh traveled to Beijing 321 00:18:56,016 --> 00:18:59,516 in search of more help from the Chinese. 322 00:18:59,616 --> 00:19:02,950 The American buildup in South Vietnam had alarmed him 323 00:19:03,050 --> 00:19:05,250 and the other leaders in Hanoi. 324 00:19:05,350 --> 00:19:08,616 Ho told the Chinese that American attacks 325 00:19:08,716 --> 00:19:14,583 on North Vietnam itself now seemed only a matter of time. 326 00:19:14,683 --> 00:19:18,683 The Chinese promised to equip and arm tens of thousands 327 00:19:18,783 --> 00:19:21,750 of Vietnamese soldiers. 328 00:19:21,850 --> 00:19:25,350 Meanwhile, the Politburo in Hanoi had directed 329 00:19:25,450 --> 00:19:28,716 that every able-bodied North Vietnamese man 330 00:19:28,816 --> 00:19:33,650 be required to serve in the armed forces. 331 00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:36,916 ("Honky Tonk Pt. 1" by Bill Doggett playing) 332 00:19:40,616 --> 00:19:42,850 NARRATOR: Inspired by their president's call, 333 00:19:42,950 --> 00:19:46,150 thousands of young Americans would join the Peace Corps 334 00:19:46,250 --> 00:19:50,083 and other organizations to help project American ideals 335 00:19:50,183 --> 00:19:52,550 and goodwill around the world. 336 00:19:53,650 --> 00:19:59,650 ("Honky Tonk Pt. 1" continues) 337 00:20:05,450 --> 00:20:10,150 RUFUS PHILLIPS: We were not only there in Vietnam to stop communism, 338 00:20:10,250 --> 00:20:14,083 but there had to be something positive. 339 00:20:14,183 --> 00:20:17,416 We're trying to find out what the Vietnamese people want 340 00:20:17,516 --> 00:20:20,116 and to help them get it. 341 00:20:20,216 --> 00:20:21,450 And that was very simple 342 00:20:21,550 --> 00:20:23,583 but, if you think about it, also very complex. 343 00:20:23,683 --> 00:20:26,050 But it went to the heart, I thought, 344 00:20:26,150 --> 00:20:28,516 of what we were trying to do. 345 00:20:28,616 --> 00:20:30,416 ("Dirty Overalls" by Woody Guthrie playing) 346 00:20:30,516 --> 00:20:33,750 NARRATOR: Pete Hunting, a 22-year-old from Oklahoma City, 347 00:20:33,850 --> 00:20:37,416 would go to Vietnam right after college to do what he could 348 00:20:37,516 --> 00:20:40,750 to help poor villagers in the countryside. 349 00:20:40,850 --> 00:20:43,216 WOODY GUTHRIE: ♪ I was a soldier in the fight 350 00:20:43,316 --> 00:20:45,550 ♪ And I fought till we won 351 00:20:45,650 --> 00:20:49,716 ♪ My uniform's my dirty overhauls. ♪ 352 00:20:49,816 --> 00:20:51,616 HUNTING (dramatized): Dear Margo, 353 00:20:51,716 --> 00:20:54,116 I finally finished up my work in Phan Rang last week. 354 00:20:54,216 --> 00:20:56,083 Had spent a month working on a windmill 355 00:20:56,183 --> 00:20:58,183 I'd promised the people of one hamlet. 356 00:20:58,283 --> 00:21:02,850 Cost a lot of money, too, which I paid out of my own pocket. 357 00:21:02,950 --> 00:21:06,716 GUTHRIE: ♪ Well, I'll give you my sweat, I'll give you my blood. ♪ 358 00:21:06,816 --> 00:21:08,916 HUNTING (dramatized): I'm in soaring spirits today 359 00:21:09,016 --> 00:21:12,183 despite all the natural disasters, political intrigues, 360 00:21:12,283 --> 00:21:14,350 and subversive activities. 361 00:21:14,450 --> 00:21:16,850 NARRATOR: Pete Hunting worked 362 00:21:16,950 --> 00:21:19,750 for the International Voluntary Services, 363 00:21:19,850 --> 00:21:23,583 a nonprofit organization committed to improving 364 00:21:23,683 --> 00:21:26,783 agriculture, education, and public health. 365 00:21:26,883 --> 00:21:30,050 He was one of hundreds of dedicated aid workers 366 00:21:30,150 --> 00:21:32,683 in South Vietnam. 367 00:21:32,783 --> 00:21:36,516 GUTHRIE: ♪ My hoe is my gun. 368 00:21:36,616 --> 00:21:38,783 HUNTING (dramatized): Latest news on this side of the world 369 00:21:38,883 --> 00:21:40,883 is that I'll almost definitely be extending over here 370 00:21:40,983 --> 00:21:42,850 for another two years, 371 00:21:42,950 --> 00:21:45,083 providing the country stays in one piece that long. 372 00:21:48,150 --> 00:21:50,283 NARRATOR: Two years after he arrived, 373 00:21:50,383 --> 00:21:52,783 Pete Hunting was driving in the Mekong Delta 374 00:21:52,883 --> 00:21:55,683 when he ran into a Viet Cong ambush. 375 00:21:55,783 --> 00:21:59,250 He was shot five times in the head... 376 00:21:59,350 --> 00:22:00,950 (gunshot) 377 00:22:01,050 --> 00:22:03,016 the first American civilian volunteer 378 00:22:03,116 --> 00:22:05,783 to be killed in Vietnam. 379 00:22:10,416 --> 00:22:21,016 (helicopter blades beating, voices on radio) 380 00:22:21,116 --> 00:22:26,683 (distorted sound of gunfire, explosion) 381 00:22:34,283 --> 00:22:36,583 People used to joke in Vietnam 382 00:22:36,683 --> 00:22:38,316 about winning the hearts and minds. 383 00:22:38,416 --> 00:22:41,950 And you hear that expression, but that should not be a joke. 384 00:22:42,050 --> 00:22:44,150 It's a serious, serious problem. 385 00:22:44,250 --> 00:22:46,683 If you pull off a military operation, 386 00:22:46,783 --> 00:22:50,383 and it may be successful on the military basis, 387 00:22:50,483 --> 00:22:53,350 but you destroy a village, 388 00:22:53,450 --> 00:22:57,183 then you've created a village of resistance. 389 00:22:57,283 --> 00:23:01,150 NARRATOR: Few advisors understood the unique challenges 390 00:23:01,250 --> 00:23:03,983 of fighting an insurgency in Vietnam 391 00:23:04,083 --> 00:23:07,983 better than Lieutenant Colonel John Paul Vann. 392 00:23:08,083 --> 00:23:10,716 A career soldier from Virginia, 393 00:23:10,816 --> 00:23:12,983 he was the senior American advisor 394 00:23:13,083 --> 00:23:17,083 to the 7th ARVN Division in the Mekong Delta. 395 00:23:17,183 --> 00:23:21,650 Small, wiry and abrasive, John Paul Vann was convinced 396 00:23:21,750 --> 00:23:25,850 he knew how to defeat the Viet Cong. 397 00:23:25,950 --> 00:23:30,483 PHILIP BRADY: John Paul Vann was simply the most remarkable soldier 398 00:23:30,583 --> 00:23:31,650 I ever met. 399 00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:33,616 Period. 400 00:23:33,716 --> 00:23:38,450 The biggest challenge of John Paul Vann's life 401 00:23:38,550 --> 00:23:44,350 was somehow saving Vietnam, winning. 402 00:23:44,450 --> 00:23:47,350 That, to him, was the ultimate challenge. 403 00:23:47,450 --> 00:23:49,816 (explosion) 404 00:23:49,916 --> 00:23:51,483 NARRATOR: When it became clear to Vann 405 00:23:51,583 --> 00:23:54,450 that the tactics the Americans had taught the ARVN 406 00:23:54,550 --> 00:23:57,650 were beginning to make more enemies than friends, 407 00:23:57,750 --> 00:24:02,416 he sought out newspapermen to spread the word. 408 00:24:02,516 --> 00:24:06,383 NEIL SHEEHAN: He was able to explain to us what was going on. 409 00:24:06,483 --> 00:24:09,783 The important thing was not to alienate the population. 410 00:24:09,883 --> 00:24:12,750 That if you got sniper fire from a hamlet, 411 00:24:12,850 --> 00:24:15,216 you sent in riflemen to take out the sniper. 412 00:24:15,316 --> 00:24:17,583 You didn't shell the place, because you were going to kill 413 00:24:17,683 --> 00:24:19,983 women and kids and destroy houses 414 00:24:20,083 --> 00:24:22,550 and you were going to turn the population against you. 415 00:24:24,783 --> 00:24:28,050 NARRATOR: Most press coverage of Vietnam was upbeat 416 00:24:28,150 --> 00:24:30,816 in the tradition of previous wars. 417 00:24:30,916 --> 00:24:35,716 But a handful of young reporters including Neil Sheehan, 418 00:24:35,816 --> 00:24:38,283 David Halberstam of theNew York Times, 419 00:24:38,383 --> 00:24:40,916 and Malcolm Browne of the Associated Press, 420 00:24:41,016 --> 00:24:44,716 who spent time in the field with officers like Vann, 421 00:24:44,816 --> 00:24:48,850 were beginning to see that from the Vietnamese countryside, 422 00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:51,116 things looked very different than they did 423 00:24:51,216 --> 00:24:55,016 from the press offices in Washington or Saigon. 424 00:24:55,116 --> 00:24:59,283 SHEEHAN: So it was terribly important that we not only win the war 425 00:24:59,383 --> 00:25:02,216 but that we as reporters report the truth 426 00:25:02,316 --> 00:25:05,150 that would help to win the war. 427 00:25:05,250 --> 00:25:08,283 We were very fervent in wanting to report the truth 428 00:25:08,383 --> 00:25:11,450 because it was very important to the welfare of our country 429 00:25:11,550 --> 00:25:12,950 and to the welfare of the world. 430 00:25:15,083 --> 00:25:18,516 NARRATOR: Sheehan and his colleagues began asking tough questions 431 00:25:18,616 --> 00:25:23,550 about what constituted progress, what victory would look like, 432 00:25:23,650 --> 00:25:25,950 and if the people in the countryside, 433 00:25:26,050 --> 00:25:29,650 where 80% of South Vietnam's population lived, 434 00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:34,516 could ever trust the government in Saigon. 435 00:25:34,616 --> 00:25:37,616 SHEEHAN: I remember going, during one of Robert McNamara's visits, 436 00:25:37,716 --> 00:25:40,683 out to one of these hamlets. 437 00:25:40,783 --> 00:25:42,216 The Vietnamese general who commanded the area 438 00:25:42,316 --> 00:25:43,750 was telling McNamara what a wonderful thing this was. 439 00:25:43,850 --> 00:25:46,350 And the-the... some of these farmers were down 440 00:25:46,450 --> 00:25:50,083 digging a ditch around the... around the hamlet. 441 00:25:50,183 --> 00:25:53,516 And I looked at their faces and they were really angry. 442 00:25:55,283 --> 00:25:56,850 I mean it was very obvious to me 443 00:25:56,950 --> 00:25:59,783 that if these people could, they'd cut our throats. 444 00:26:04,116 --> 00:26:08,083 NARRATOR: Farmers resented being forced to abandon their homes 445 00:26:08,183 --> 00:26:10,616 and move to strategic hamlets. 446 00:26:10,716 --> 00:26:14,783 Corrupt officials siphoned off funds. 447 00:26:14,883 --> 00:26:17,283 And villagers blamed the Diem regime 448 00:26:17,383 --> 00:26:21,250 for failing to protect them from guerrilla attacks. 449 00:26:21,350 --> 00:26:26,516 As the people's anger grew, so did the ranks of the Viet Cong. 450 00:26:26,616 --> 00:26:30,916 SHEEHAN: It turned out that the Viet Cong were recruiting men 451 00:26:31,016 --> 00:26:34,450 right out of those strategic... so-called strategic hamlets. 452 00:26:34,550 --> 00:26:36,550 And then the whole program fell apart. 453 00:26:37,750 --> 00:26:39,350 NGUYEN NGOC: 454 00:27:00,316 --> 00:27:04,183 NARRATOR: Nguyen Ngoc's father was a postal clerk south of Danang. 455 00:27:04,283 --> 00:27:08,750 His brothers and sisters taught in South Vietnamese schools. 456 00:27:08,850 --> 00:27:12,516 But he joined the revolution, and as a political officer, 457 00:27:12,616 --> 00:27:16,550 wrote poems, songs, and slogans to inspire the people 458 00:27:16,650 --> 00:27:21,150 in the countryside to support the Viet Cong. 459 00:27:21,250 --> 00:27:25,783 DUONG VAN MAI: The Viet Cong cadre would come in and talk to them 460 00:27:25,883 --> 00:27:30,650 and their message is usually (speaking Vietnamese), 461 00:27:30,750 --> 00:27:33,250 which means "turn your grief into action. 462 00:27:33,350 --> 00:27:35,750 "Do something about it. 463 00:27:35,850 --> 00:27:37,783 "Join us. 464 00:27:37,883 --> 00:27:39,250 "We'll fight together. 465 00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:43,750 "We'll liberate the country from this corrupt, unjust government. 466 00:27:43,850 --> 00:27:45,750 "We'll throw out the foreigners. 467 00:27:45,850 --> 00:27:47,550 "We'll reunify the country. 468 00:27:47,650 --> 00:27:50,716 "And we'll bring in this great regime 469 00:27:50,816 --> 00:27:52,350 "that will take care of you 470 00:27:52,450 --> 00:27:54,250 and bring economic and social justice." 471 00:27:56,350 --> 00:27:59,450 NARRATOR: The Viet Cong ran rival local governments, 472 00:27:59,550 --> 00:28:03,350 complete with their own tax collectors and school teachers, 473 00:28:03,450 --> 00:28:07,850 spies and propagandists, and province chiefs. 474 00:28:10,450 --> 00:28:12,650 To make matters worse, 475 00:28:12,750 --> 00:28:16,483 ARVN troops and American advisors now found themselves 476 00:28:16,583 --> 00:28:19,483 confronted by a new threat: 477 00:28:19,583 --> 00:28:22,750 battalions of well-armed Viet Cong soldiers, 478 00:28:22,850 --> 00:28:26,016 as well as by local guerrillas. 479 00:28:26,116 --> 00:28:28,316 SHEEHAN: We'd armed them. 480 00:28:28,416 --> 00:28:31,750 You could hear the arming of the Viet Cong. 481 00:28:31,850 --> 00:28:35,283 Back in early '62, they only had one machine gun per battalion. 482 00:28:35,383 --> 00:28:36,450 (single gunfire burst) 483 00:28:36,550 --> 00:28:38,016 It was sporadic fire. 484 00:28:38,116 --> 00:28:42,016 Then, as they captured more and more of these American arms, 485 00:28:42,116 --> 00:28:43,850 when you made contact, it fi... 486 00:28:43,950 --> 00:28:46,183 it would build up into a drumfire of automatic 487 00:28:46,283 --> 00:28:47,716 and semi-automatic weapons. 488 00:28:47,816 --> 00:28:50,716 (cacophony of gunfire bursts) 489 00:28:55,450 --> 00:28:58,550 RUFUS PHILLIPS: Secretary McNamara decided that he would draw up 490 00:28:58,650 --> 00:29:01,483 some kind of a chart to determine 491 00:29:01,583 --> 00:29:04,416 whether we were winning or not. 492 00:29:04,516 --> 00:29:07,116 And he was putting things in 493 00:29:07,216 --> 00:29:09,983 like numbers of weapons recovered, 494 00:29:10,083 --> 00:29:12,350 numbers of Viet Cong killed. 495 00:29:12,450 --> 00:29:14,850 Very statistical. 496 00:29:17,416 --> 00:29:19,816 And he asked Edward Lansdale, 497 00:29:19,916 --> 00:29:23,616 who was then in the Pentagon as head of Special Operations, 498 00:29:23,716 --> 00:29:25,716 to come down and look at this. 499 00:29:25,816 --> 00:29:29,950 And so Lansdale did and he said, "There's something missing." 500 00:29:30,050 --> 00:29:33,250 And McNamara said, "What?" 501 00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:36,883 And Lansdale said, "The feelings of the Vietnamese people." 502 00:29:36,983 --> 00:29:40,816 You couldn't reduce this to a statistic. 503 00:29:40,916 --> 00:29:45,483 NARRATOR: Robert McNamara had vowed to make America's military 504 00:29:45,583 --> 00:29:46,950 "cost-effective." 505 00:29:47,050 --> 00:29:50,750 He demanded that everything be quantified. 506 00:29:50,850 --> 00:29:54,650 In Saigon, General Paul D. Harkins, 507 00:29:54,750 --> 00:29:58,016 head of the Military Assistance Command, Vietnam, 508 00:29:58,116 --> 00:30:01,350 known as MACV, dutifully complied. 509 00:30:01,450 --> 00:30:06,050 He and his staff generated mountains of daily, weekly, 510 00:30:06,150 --> 00:30:08,316 monthly, and quarterly data 511 00:30:08,416 --> 00:30:11,416 on more than a hundred separate indicators, 512 00:30:11,516 --> 00:30:16,016 far more data than could ever be adequately analyzed. 513 00:30:16,116 --> 00:30:19,383 (typewriter keys clacking) 514 00:30:19,483 --> 00:30:22,283 General Harkins had little use for skeptical reporters 515 00:30:22,383 --> 00:30:23,916 like Neil Sheehan. 516 00:30:24,016 --> 00:30:26,483 Bad news was to be buried. 517 00:30:26,583 --> 00:30:30,683 Harkins ignored the alarming after action reports 518 00:30:30,783 --> 00:30:34,350 John Paul Vann and other officers were sending in 519 00:30:34,450 --> 00:30:36,416 from the field. 520 00:30:36,516 --> 00:30:39,483 DONALD GREGG: I was going to be made head of the Vietnam desk 521 00:30:39,583 --> 00:30:41,550 at CIA headquarters. 522 00:30:41,650 --> 00:30:44,883 And the first person of importance that I met 523 00:30:44,983 --> 00:30:47,183 was General Harkins. 524 00:30:47,283 --> 00:30:49,716 And he started out by saying, 525 00:30:49,816 --> 00:30:52,583 "Mr. Gregg, I don't care what you hear from anybody else, 526 00:30:52,683 --> 00:30:54,983 "I can tell you without a doubt we're going to be out of here 527 00:30:55,083 --> 00:30:56,883 with a military victory in six months." 528 00:30:58,383 --> 00:31:00,316 JAMES MOSSMAN: The country's 12 million peasants 529 00:31:00,416 --> 00:31:03,016 can scarcely remember what peace was like. 530 00:31:03,116 --> 00:31:04,950 They're caught between the predatory guerrillas 531 00:31:05,050 --> 00:31:07,550 and the almost equally demanding soldiery. 532 00:31:07,650 --> 00:31:09,950 Their lives are lived in a state of permanent uncertainty, 533 00:31:10,050 --> 00:31:12,650 punctuated by bouts of violence 534 00:31:12,750 --> 00:31:14,183 as government forces come to grips 535 00:31:14,283 --> 00:31:16,516 with the black-clad communist rebel forces 536 00:31:16,616 --> 00:31:17,950 called the Viet Cong. 537 00:31:22,683 --> 00:31:25,183 HUY DUC: 538 00:32:04,083 --> 00:32:07,450 NGUYEN NGOC: 539 00:32:49,883 --> 00:32:52,583 CAO XUAN DAI: 540 00:33:15,916 --> 00:33:20,150 On our side we were not as committed 541 00:33:20,250 --> 00:33:22,083 and we were... 542 00:33:22,183 --> 00:33:25,416 our leaders were corrupt and incompetent. 543 00:33:25,516 --> 00:33:30,483 And so deep down we'll always have this fear, 544 00:33:30,583 --> 00:33:36,150 this suspicion that in the end it'll be the communists who won. 545 00:33:36,250 --> 00:33:39,716 TOM VALLELY: When John Kennedy assembled 546 00:33:39,816 --> 00:33:41,850 what he thinks is the best and the brightest, 547 00:33:41,950 --> 00:33:48,116 20 years before that in a cave in the northern part 548 00:33:48,216 --> 00:33:50,783 of Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh also put together 549 00:33:50,883 --> 00:33:52,283 his best and the brightest. 550 00:33:52,383 --> 00:33:55,450 And these guys are at it for a while. 551 00:33:55,550 --> 00:33:59,083 And when we show up, they were far along 552 00:33:59,183 --> 00:34:05,050 to consolidating their victory over this inevitable conflict 553 00:34:05,150 --> 00:34:09,683 between Ho Chi Minh and John F. Kennedy's vision. 554 00:34:09,783 --> 00:34:14,850 The more you think about the American strategy, 555 00:34:14,950 --> 00:34:18,550 the more you know 556 00:34:18,650 --> 00:34:21,416 that it was never going to work out particularly well. 557 00:34:36,283 --> 00:34:41,950 RHEAULT: I was at my top of my game when I was in combat. 558 00:34:46,916 --> 00:34:49,983 You don't have the luxury to indulge your fear 559 00:34:50,083 --> 00:34:52,050 because other people's lives depend upon 560 00:34:52,150 --> 00:34:53,450 you keeping your head cold. 561 00:35:02,216 --> 00:35:05,183 You know, when something goes wrong, 562 00:35:05,283 --> 00:35:06,583 they call it emotional numbing. 563 00:35:06,683 --> 00:35:08,950 It's not very good in civilian life, 564 00:35:09,050 --> 00:35:11,250 but it's pretty useful in combat. 565 00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:25,550 To be able to get absolutely very cold 566 00:35:25,650 --> 00:35:30,816 about what needs to be done and to stick with it. 567 00:35:36,650 --> 00:35:39,583 To me it's, it's a little bit distressing to realize 568 00:35:39,683 --> 00:35:41,350 that I was at my best 569 00:35:41,450 --> 00:35:44,116 doing something as terrible as war. 570 00:35:53,516 --> 00:35:56,050 MOSSMAN: President Kennedy has staked his reputation in Asia 571 00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:58,983 on saving South Vietnam from communism. 572 00:35:59,083 --> 00:36:01,483 As the army makes the sweep towards the village 573 00:36:01,583 --> 00:36:03,383 suspected of harboring Viet Cong, 574 00:36:03,483 --> 00:36:06,583 it can't tell whether it will meet resistance. 575 00:36:12,816 --> 00:36:15,016 The troops round up all the young men they can find, 576 00:36:15,116 --> 00:36:18,183 since they can't tell who is a communist just by looking. 577 00:36:20,683 --> 00:36:23,350 Those who try to run for it are shot 578 00:36:23,450 --> 00:36:25,383 on the assumption they have something to hide. 579 00:36:30,416 --> 00:36:34,050 TRAN NGOC CHAU (in English): 580 00:37:17,050 --> 00:37:21,916 NARRATOR: Each of South Vietnam's 44 provinces had its own chief. 581 00:37:22,016 --> 00:37:24,816 Some were simply political appointees, 582 00:37:24,916 --> 00:37:27,683 corrupt allies of President Diem. 583 00:37:27,783 --> 00:37:33,416 Tran Ngoc Chau, province chief of Kien Hoa, was different. 584 00:37:33,516 --> 00:37:38,350 A privileged judge's son from the old imperial city of Hue, 585 00:37:38,450 --> 00:37:41,416 he and two of his brothers had fought against the French 586 00:37:41,516 --> 00:37:42,883 with the Viet Minh. 587 00:37:42,983 --> 00:37:46,983 But he had refused to join the Communist Party; 588 00:37:47,083 --> 00:37:50,016 he admired their dedication, but disliked the way 589 00:37:50,116 --> 00:37:53,250 they punished those who dared differ with them. 590 00:37:53,350 --> 00:37:56,316 Instead, he left the Viet Minh, 591 00:37:56,416 --> 00:37:59,550 became a major in the army fighting against them, 592 00:37:59,650 --> 00:38:03,516 and eventually so impressed Diem with his insider's knowledge 593 00:38:03,616 --> 00:38:07,450 of communist tactics that he was promoted to colonel 594 00:38:07,550 --> 00:38:13,383 and made chief of Kien Hoa, a Viet Cong stronghold. 595 00:38:13,483 --> 00:38:17,150 PHILLIPS: He was absolutely incorruptible. 596 00:38:17,250 --> 00:38:22,216 And people came to really understand that here's a guy 597 00:38:22,316 --> 00:38:25,316 who's, even though it's not an elected system, 598 00:38:25,416 --> 00:38:28,250 who never... nevertheless really represents us. 599 00:38:29,950 --> 00:38:31,850 NARRATOR: "Give me a budget that equals the cost 600 00:38:31,950 --> 00:38:36,150 of one American helicopter," Chau liked to say, 601 00:38:36,250 --> 00:38:38,883 "and I'll give you a pacified province. 602 00:38:38,983 --> 00:38:43,050 "With that much money, I can raise the standard of living 603 00:38:43,150 --> 00:38:44,650 "of the rice farmers, 604 00:38:44,750 --> 00:38:46,450 "and government officials can be paid enough 605 00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:51,250 so they won't think it necessary to steal." 606 00:38:51,350 --> 00:38:53,816 Rather than hunt down the Viet Cong, 607 00:38:53,916 --> 00:38:56,583 he sought to persuade them. 608 00:38:57,950 --> 00:39:01,150 TRAN NGOC CHAU (in English): 609 00:39:47,783 --> 00:39:51,883 ("Walk, Don't Run" by the Ventures playing) 610 00:39:51,983 --> 00:39:55,583 NARRATOR: Back home, Americans were paying little attention 611 00:39:55,683 --> 00:39:57,850 to what was happening in Vietnam. 612 00:39:57,950 --> 00:40:00,683 They were watching The Beverly Hillbillies 613 00:40:00,783 --> 00:40:02,883 andGunsm oke on TV, 614 00:40:02,983 --> 00:40:05,916 were interested in whether the Yankees would win 615 00:40:06,016 --> 00:40:07,416 the World Series again 616 00:40:07,516 --> 00:40:11,650 and in the recent death of Marilyn Monroe. 617 00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:14,850 ("Stand By Me" by Ben E. King playing) 618 00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:17,350 But some Americans had been growing impatient 619 00:40:17,450 --> 00:40:20,716 with the slow pace of social change. 620 00:40:20,816 --> 00:40:22,450 BILL ZIMMERMAN: We were told in the '50s 621 00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:25,250 that we lived in the best country in the world. 622 00:40:25,350 --> 00:40:28,750 In the middle of, you know, trying to figure out 623 00:40:28,850 --> 00:40:31,083 what it meant to be a citizen of the... 624 00:40:31,183 --> 00:40:33,516 of this best country in the world, 625 00:40:33,616 --> 00:40:35,416 suddenly the civil rights movement exploded 626 00:40:35,516 --> 00:40:37,450 into our consciousness. 627 00:40:37,550 --> 00:40:43,683 BEN E. KING: ♪ When the night has come... 628 00:40:43,783 --> 00:40:45,616 ZIMMERMAN: We didn't think we had any power. 629 00:40:45,716 --> 00:40:48,850 We didn't think we could be actors in history, 630 00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:51,550 that we could affect things. 631 00:40:53,783 --> 00:40:56,850 KING: ♪ No, I won't be afraid 632 00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:58,783 ♪ Oh, I won't... 633 00:40:58,883 --> 00:41:00,616 ZIMMERMAN: And suddenly, you know, 634 00:41:00,716 --> 00:41:02,616 these young black students in the South 635 00:41:02,716 --> 00:41:04,316 were doing exactly that. 636 00:41:04,416 --> 00:41:07,483 And it just blew the tops of our heads off. 637 00:41:07,583 --> 00:41:13,216 KING: ♪ So darling, darling, stand by me ♪ 638 00:41:13,316 --> 00:41:17,650 ♪ Oh, stand by me 639 00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:22,916 ♪ Oh, stand, stand by me 640 00:41:23,016 --> 00:41:25,783 ♪ Stand by me 641 00:41:25,883 --> 00:41:28,550 ♪ If the sky that we look upon... ♪ 642 00:41:28,650 --> 00:41:32,050 NARRATOR: Other Americans were concerned about the proliferation 643 00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:35,383 of nuclear weapons in the world. 644 00:41:35,483 --> 00:41:39,383 Perhaps it would be a good thing to put Khrushchev and Kennedy 645 00:41:39,483 --> 00:41:43,283 on an island and not let either one of them off 646 00:41:43,383 --> 00:41:45,650 until they came to an agreement. 647 00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:48,116 KING: ♪ Stand by me 648 00:41:48,216 --> 00:41:53,050 ♪ And darling, darling, stand by me. ♪ 649 00:41:57,250 --> 00:42:00,683 (bicycle bells ring, motors rumble) 650 00:42:08,416 --> 00:42:11,550 SHEEHAN: And if you were in a cafe when Diem was giving a speech, 651 00:42:11,650 --> 00:42:13,416 somebody would get up and shut the radio off, 652 00:42:13,516 --> 00:42:15,283 it would be coming in over the radio. 653 00:42:15,383 --> 00:42:17,683 Somebody would get up and they'd just shut the radio off. 654 00:42:17,783 --> 00:42:21,950 I mean, he was not connected with... to his own population. 655 00:42:24,916 --> 00:42:29,816 PHAN QUANG TUE: Diem was simply the opposite of what democracy was. 656 00:42:29,916 --> 00:42:33,683 South Vietnam, in the competition against the North, 657 00:42:33,783 --> 00:42:38,850 that should been, should have been a golden opportunity 658 00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:44,250 to have that society open with the free press, 659 00:42:44,350 --> 00:42:46,350 free expression. 660 00:42:46,450 --> 00:42:49,183 But there was not much choice 661 00:42:49,283 --> 00:42:53,683 if the two system are structurally dictator 662 00:42:53,783 --> 00:42:55,083 and oppressive systems-- 663 00:42:55,183 --> 00:43:01,516 one under the Communist Party, one under a family. 664 00:43:02,616 --> 00:43:05,150 CHAU (speaking English): 665 00:43:18,450 --> 00:43:22,050 NARRATOR: Diem's brother, Ngo Dinh Nhu, had been the architect 666 00:43:22,150 --> 00:43:24,550 of the strategic hamlet program, 667 00:43:24,650 --> 00:43:28,783 ran a personal political party that mirrored the techniques 668 00:43:28,883 --> 00:43:31,350 and the ruthlessness of the communists, 669 00:43:31,450 --> 00:43:35,616 and supervised a host of internal security units 670 00:43:35,716 --> 00:43:39,850 that spied on and seized enemies of the regime. 671 00:43:41,716 --> 00:43:43,816 Some reporters who probed too deeply 672 00:43:43,916 --> 00:43:46,316 into what Diem and Nhu were doing 673 00:43:46,416 --> 00:43:48,583 were ordered out of the country. 674 00:43:48,683 --> 00:43:49,616 (gunshot) 675 00:43:49,716 --> 00:43:52,116 When an American journalist objected, 676 00:43:52,216 --> 00:43:56,283 Nhu's sharp-tongued wife told him Vietnam had no use 677 00:43:56,383 --> 00:43:59,016 for "your crazy freedoms." 678 00:44:00,483 --> 00:44:02,350 Meanwhile, out in the countryside, 679 00:44:02,450 --> 00:44:06,616 John Paul Vann and other advisors had begun to notice 680 00:44:06,716 --> 00:44:10,450 that the corruption within Diem's regime had filtered down 681 00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:12,483 to the commanders in the field. 682 00:44:12,583 --> 00:44:17,583 Troops, who had once been willing to engage the enemy, 683 00:44:17,683 --> 00:44:21,716 now seemed strangely reluctant. 684 00:44:21,816 --> 00:44:26,616 God, I was told so many times, "(speaking Vietnamese)." 685 00:44:26,716 --> 00:44:28,616 You know, "Scanlon, (speaking Vietnamese)." 686 00:44:28,716 --> 00:44:29,816 Um... 687 00:44:29,916 --> 00:44:35,116 very dangerous, you know, going out there. 688 00:44:35,216 --> 00:44:37,950 NEIL SHEEHAN: John Vann would go out with them at night. 689 00:44:38,050 --> 00:44:42,150 And he noticed that somebody would always cough 690 00:44:42,250 --> 00:44:45,583 or make some other slight noise when it turned out 691 00:44:45,683 --> 00:44:48,083 that the Viet Cong were heading into the ambush site. 692 00:44:48,183 --> 00:44:49,916 They did not want to get in a fight. 693 00:44:50,016 --> 00:44:53,216 NARRATOR: South Vietnamese officers were chosen 694 00:44:53,316 --> 00:44:56,783 less for their combat skill than for their loyalty 695 00:44:56,883 --> 00:45:00,850 to President Diem, and their men knew it. 696 00:45:02,150 --> 00:45:03,483 RHEAULT: What we should've done is 697 00:45:03,583 --> 00:45:08,150 either forced the Vietnamese-- I mean really forced them-- 698 00:45:08,250 --> 00:45:10,350 to clean up their act. 699 00:45:10,450 --> 00:45:12,483 And if they wouldn't clean up their act to say, 700 00:45:12,583 --> 00:45:14,983 "We're out of here. 701 00:45:15,083 --> 00:45:17,883 "Because we don't bet on losing horses. 702 00:45:17,983 --> 00:45:20,383 "This is a losing horse. 703 00:45:20,483 --> 00:45:22,750 You are not going to win this insurgency." 704 00:45:22,850 --> 00:45:25,583 We, as Americans, should have understood the desire 705 00:45:25,683 --> 00:45:29,150 of the Vietnamese people to have their own country. 706 00:45:29,250 --> 00:45:32,250 I mean we did the same thing to the Brits. 707 00:45:37,883 --> 00:45:42,716 NARRATOR: In October of 1962, the United States and the Soviet Union 708 00:45:42,816 --> 00:45:45,583 came closer than they would ever come again 709 00:45:45,683 --> 00:45:48,350 to mutually assured destruction. 710 00:45:48,450 --> 00:45:51,450 Good evening, my fellow citizens. 711 00:45:51,550 --> 00:45:55,516 This government, as promised, has maintained 712 00:45:55,616 --> 00:45:59,450 the closest surveillance of the Soviet military buildup 713 00:45:59,550 --> 00:46:01,350 on the island of Cuba. 714 00:46:02,350 --> 00:46:04,383 Within the past week, 715 00:46:04,483 --> 00:46:07,783 unmistakable evidence has established the fact 716 00:46:07,883 --> 00:46:11,283 that a series of offensive missile sites 717 00:46:11,383 --> 00:46:16,416 is now in preparation on that imprisoned island. 718 00:46:16,516 --> 00:46:19,716 NARRATOR: The Soviets had secretly placed nuclear missiles 719 00:46:19,816 --> 00:46:22,850 90 miles from the United States. 720 00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:27,850 The Joint Chiefs of Staff urged President Kennedy to bomb Cuba. 721 00:46:27,950 --> 00:46:32,083 He resisted and instead ordered a naval blockade 722 00:46:32,183 --> 00:46:36,583 to stop Soviet ships from resupplying the island. 723 00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:43,550 For 13 excruciating days, the world held its breath. 724 00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:50,183 Finally, in exchange for a private pledge 725 00:46:50,283 --> 00:46:52,983 to remove American missiles from Turkey, 726 00:46:53,083 --> 00:46:56,683 Khrushchev agreed to remove his missiles from Cuba. 727 00:46:59,516 --> 00:47:02,516 Neither the United States nor the Soviet Union 728 00:47:02,616 --> 00:47:06,650 wanted so direct a confrontation ever again. 729 00:47:06,750 --> 00:47:09,150 From now on, limited wars, 730 00:47:09,250 --> 00:47:11,750 like the growing conflict in Vietnam, 731 00:47:11,850 --> 00:47:15,350 would assume still greater importance. 732 00:47:18,650 --> 00:47:23,150 MUSGRAVE: I'd grown up in the shadow of the mushroom cloud. 733 00:47:23,250 --> 00:47:27,283 And I remember the... watching President Kennedy speak 734 00:47:27,383 --> 00:47:28,950 during the Cuban Missile Crisis 735 00:47:29,050 --> 00:47:31,250 and wondering if I was ever gonna kiss a girl. 736 00:47:31,350 --> 00:47:34,216 And so this was just continuing that battle 737 00:47:34,316 --> 00:47:36,083 against the Russians. 738 00:47:36,183 --> 00:47:39,716 Only we were fighting, you know, their, their proxies, 739 00:47:39,816 --> 00:47:43,250 the Vietnamese there-- but it was monolithic communism. 740 00:47:44,616 --> 00:47:47,483 It didn't matter to me where it was, I was going to go 741 00:47:47,583 --> 00:47:51,650 if my government said we needed to be there. 742 00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:54,683 We were probably the last kids of any generation 743 00:47:54,783 --> 00:47:56,016 that actually believed 744 00:47:56,116 --> 00:47:57,850 our government would never lie to us. 745 00:48:03,183 --> 00:48:05,483 SHEEHAN: We had been writing stories about all the flaws 746 00:48:05,583 --> 00:48:08,416 on the Saigon side-- about how they wouldn't fight, 747 00:48:08,516 --> 00:48:11,250 about the corruption, they wouldn't obey orders, 748 00:48:11,350 --> 00:48:12,883 the disorganization. 749 00:48:14,816 --> 00:48:19,350 And then all of a sudden the Viet Cong, for the first time, 750 00:48:19,450 --> 00:48:20,816 the "raggedy-ass little bastards" 751 00:48:20,916 --> 00:48:23,716 as the Harkins's people in Saigon called them, 752 00:48:23,816 --> 00:48:25,350 stood and fought. 753 00:48:25,450 --> 00:48:27,716 And suddenly all the flaws on the Saigon side 754 00:48:27,816 --> 00:48:30,116 were illuminated by this. 755 00:48:30,216 --> 00:48:33,416 Like a star shell, it illuminated the battlefield. 756 00:48:33,516 --> 00:48:34,983 Everything came out. 757 00:48:36,250 --> 00:48:39,550 NARRATOR: A few days after Christmas 1962, 758 00:48:39,650 --> 00:48:43,116 the 7th ARVN Division got orders to capture 759 00:48:43,216 --> 00:48:45,316 a Viet Cong radio transmitter 760 00:48:45,416 --> 00:48:50,050 broadcasting from a spot some 40 miles southwest of Saigon 761 00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:53,116 in a village called Tan Thoi. 762 00:48:53,216 --> 00:48:55,950 The village was surrounded by rice paddies. 763 00:48:56,050 --> 00:49:02,050 An irrigation dike linked it to a neighboring hamlet-- Ap Bac. 764 00:49:02,150 --> 00:49:06,483 Intelligence suggested no more than 120 guerrillas 765 00:49:06,583 --> 00:49:08,916 were guarding the transmitter. 766 00:49:09,016 --> 00:49:12,350 John Paul Vann helped draw up what seemed to be 767 00:49:12,450 --> 00:49:14,883 a foolproof plan of attack. 768 00:49:14,983 --> 00:49:19,216 Supported by helicopters and armored personnel carriers, 769 00:49:19,316 --> 00:49:23,183 some 1,200 South Vietnamese troops would attack the village 770 00:49:23,283 --> 00:49:25,116 from three sides. 771 00:49:25,216 --> 00:49:28,083 When the surviving Viet Cong tried to flee through the gap 772 00:49:28,183 --> 00:49:32,116 left open for them, as they always had whenever outnumbered 773 00:49:32,216 --> 00:49:34,416 and confronted by modern weapons, 774 00:49:34,516 --> 00:49:38,016 artillery and airstrikes would destroy them. 775 00:49:38,116 --> 00:49:42,583 Vann would observe the fighting from a spotter plane. 776 00:49:42,683 --> 00:49:48,283 But the intelligence underlying it all turned out to be wrong. 777 00:49:48,383 --> 00:49:53,916 There were more than 340 Viet Cong, not 120, in the area. 778 00:49:54,016 --> 00:49:56,950 Communist spies had tipped them off 779 00:49:57,050 --> 00:49:59,150 that they were soon to be attacked. 780 00:49:59,250 --> 00:50:03,316 And this time they would not flee without a fight. 781 00:50:05,783 --> 00:50:08,516 Among them was Le Quan Cong, 782 00:50:08,616 --> 00:50:13,050 who had been a guerrilla fighter since 1951, when he was 12. 783 00:50:27,516 --> 00:50:32,583 NARRATOR: At 6:35 in the morning on January 2, 1963, 784 00:50:32,683 --> 00:50:35,983 ten American helicopters ferried an ARVN company 785 00:50:36,083 --> 00:50:39,450 to a spot just north of Tan Thoi. 786 00:50:42,350 --> 00:50:45,350 They met no resistance. 787 00:50:45,450 --> 00:50:49,016 Meanwhile, two South Vietnamese Civil Guard battalions 788 00:50:49,116 --> 00:50:52,416 approached Ap Bac from the South on foot. 789 00:50:55,416 --> 00:50:59,083 The Viet Cong commander let the Civil Guards get within 100 feet 790 00:50:59,183 --> 00:51:01,750 before giving the order to fire. 791 00:51:04,250 --> 00:51:07,016 Several South Vietnamese soldiers were killed. 792 00:51:10,983 --> 00:51:14,050 Survivors hid behind a dike. 793 00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:16,883 (gunfire) 794 00:51:16,983 --> 00:51:18,816 Ten more helicopters, 795 00:51:18,916 --> 00:51:22,616 filled with troops and escorted by five helicopter gunships, 796 00:51:22,716 --> 00:51:23,983 roared in to help. 797 00:51:25,516 --> 00:51:27,483 LE QUAN CONG: 798 00:51:50,816 --> 00:51:55,116 NARRATOR: Viet Cong machine guns hit 14 of the 15 aircraft. 799 00:51:55,216 --> 00:52:00,583 Five would be destroyed, killing and wounding American crewmen. 800 00:52:02,050 --> 00:52:04,216 LE QUAN CONG: 801 00:52:10,283 --> 00:52:12,650 NARRATOR: The enemy concentrated their fire on the ARVN 802 00:52:12,750 --> 00:52:15,816 struggling to get out of the downed helicopters. 803 00:52:15,916 --> 00:52:18,883 "It was like shooting ducks for the Viet Cong," 804 00:52:18,983 --> 00:52:20,916 an American crewman remembered. 805 00:52:23,250 --> 00:52:26,250 Colonel Vann circled helplessly overhead. 806 00:52:26,350 --> 00:52:28,750 He radioed the ARVN commander, 807 00:52:28,850 --> 00:52:32,950 urging him to send an APC unit to rescue the men. 808 00:52:34,283 --> 00:52:36,850 SCANLON: I got the word from John Vann 809 00:52:36,950 --> 00:52:39,750 that American helicopters were down. 810 00:52:39,850 --> 00:52:42,216 They were right in front of the Viet Cong positions. 811 00:52:42,316 --> 00:52:45,616 We had Americans killed and wounded 812 00:52:45,716 --> 00:52:47,783 and we had to get over there right away. 813 00:52:47,883 --> 00:52:51,783 NARRATOR: Like Vann, Captain Scanlon was only an advisor. 814 00:52:51,883 --> 00:52:55,316 Captain Ly Tong Ba, his ARVN counterpart, 815 00:52:55,416 --> 00:52:58,116 would have to give the order to advance. 816 00:52:58,216 --> 00:53:01,450 Scanlon liked and admired him. 817 00:53:01,550 --> 00:53:03,983 SCANLON: I turned to Ba and said, 818 00:53:04,083 --> 00:53:06,750 "Hey, you know, you got to get over there right away." 819 00:53:06,850 --> 00:53:11,350 And Ba said to me, "I'm not going." 820 00:53:11,450 --> 00:53:14,816 NARRATOR: Ba's superiors within the ARVN, far from the battlefield, 821 00:53:14,916 --> 00:53:17,983 had told him to stay put. 822 00:53:18,083 --> 00:53:22,016 And John Vann, my boss, was, uh, screaming at me over the... 823 00:53:22,116 --> 00:53:25,416 over the radio to get them over there. 824 00:53:25,516 --> 00:53:29,850 NARRATOR: It took Scanlon an hour to convince Captain Ba to move. 825 00:53:29,950 --> 00:53:32,350 Another two hours were lost 826 00:53:32,450 --> 00:53:35,450 before the APCs could make their way through the paddies 827 00:53:35,550 --> 00:53:37,750 toward the trapped men. 828 00:53:39,716 --> 00:53:41,983 The firing had died down. 829 00:53:42,083 --> 00:53:43,983 SCANLON: Everything was quiet. 830 00:53:44,083 --> 00:53:46,783 You could see the open expanse of rice fields. 831 00:53:46,883 --> 00:53:50,183 And my reaction was, hey, it was all over. 832 00:53:50,283 --> 00:53:53,483 NARRATOR: The first two APCs dropped their ramps. 833 00:53:53,583 --> 00:53:55,950 Infantry squads stepped out, 834 00:53:56,050 --> 00:53:59,016 prepared to spray the tree line with automatic fire 835 00:53:59,116 --> 00:54:00,316 as they advanced. 836 00:54:00,416 --> 00:54:03,116 In the past, that had been enough 837 00:54:03,216 --> 00:54:06,550 to make the Viet Cong scurry away. 838 00:54:06,650 --> 00:54:08,916 This time was different. 839 00:54:12,616 --> 00:54:14,616 Eight of the APCs came under attack. 840 00:54:14,716 --> 00:54:18,083 Within minutes, six of their gunners had been killed, 841 00:54:18,183 --> 00:54:19,416 shot through the head. 842 00:54:20,816 --> 00:54:22,916 SCANLON: And boy, we got raked. 843 00:54:23,016 --> 00:54:24,750 So it was like a pool table. 844 00:54:24,850 --> 00:54:26,216 We were on the green 845 00:54:26,316 --> 00:54:28,550 and they were in the pockets shooting at us. 846 00:54:28,650 --> 00:54:31,416 NARRATOR: When Captain Ba managed to convince 847 00:54:31,516 --> 00:54:34,083 a few more APCs to advance, 848 00:54:34,183 --> 00:54:37,150 guerrillas leapt from their foxholes 849 00:54:37,250 --> 00:54:39,283 and hurled hand grenades at them. 850 00:54:44,283 --> 00:54:46,683 None did any real damage, 851 00:54:46,783 --> 00:54:50,350 but the drivers were so demoralized that they halted, 852 00:54:50,450 --> 00:54:55,383 turned around, and withdrew behind the wrecked helicopters. 853 00:54:55,483 --> 00:54:57,383 From his spotter plane, 854 00:54:57,483 --> 00:55:01,616 Vann begged the ARVN to make a simultaneous assault 855 00:55:01,716 --> 00:55:05,083 on the enemy by all the remaining ground forces. 856 00:55:06,216 --> 00:55:09,216 ARVN commanders refused. 857 00:55:11,616 --> 00:55:14,583 That night, the Viet Cong melted away, 858 00:55:14,683 --> 00:55:18,083 carrying most of their dead and wounded with them. 859 00:55:20,216 --> 00:55:24,283 At least 80 South Vietnamese soldiers had been killed. 860 00:55:24,383 --> 00:55:29,750 So had three American advisors, including Captain Ken Good, 861 00:55:29,850 --> 00:55:30,983 a friend of Scanlon's. 862 00:55:34,883 --> 00:55:38,783 SCANLON: We stacked the armored personnel carriers with bodies, 863 00:55:38,883 --> 00:55:40,583 stacked them up on top till they... 864 00:55:40,683 --> 00:55:42,516 we couldn't stack anymore. 865 00:55:42,616 --> 00:55:48,716 And, um, I wouldn't let the Vietnamese touch the Americans. 866 00:55:48,816 --> 00:55:51,583 So I carried Americans out. 867 00:55:51,683 --> 00:55:53,950 And, um... 868 00:55:54,050 --> 00:55:56,250 And I was... I was exhausted. 869 00:55:56,350 --> 00:56:02,216 They told me about Ken Good getting killed. 870 00:56:02,316 --> 00:56:06,550 And Ken and I had worked so hard with our two battalions. 871 00:56:06,650 --> 00:56:12,450 And to hear that... he got killed hurt. 872 00:56:12,550 --> 00:56:14,183 (voice breaking): Great guy. 873 00:56:15,616 --> 00:56:17,816 NARRATOR: Reporters arrived from Saigon 874 00:56:17,916 --> 00:56:21,850 before all of the ARVN dead could be removed. 875 00:56:21,950 --> 00:56:26,150 They were horrified at what they saw and tried to find out 876 00:56:26,250 --> 00:56:28,916 what had really happened. 877 00:56:29,016 --> 00:56:33,450 John Paul Vann took Neil Sheehan and David Halberstam aside 878 00:56:33,550 --> 00:56:35,483 and told them. 879 00:56:35,583 --> 00:56:37,350 The Battle of Ap Bac had been 880 00:56:37,450 --> 00:56:40,183 "a miserable goddamn performance." 881 00:56:40,283 --> 00:56:42,416 "The ARVN won't listen," he said. 882 00:56:42,516 --> 00:56:45,450 "They make the same mistakes over and over again 883 00:56:45,550 --> 00:56:47,583 in the same way." 884 00:56:49,250 --> 00:56:50,750 But back in Saigon, 885 00:56:50,850 --> 00:56:54,550 General Harkins immediately declared victory. 886 00:56:54,650 --> 00:56:57,650 "The ARVN forces had an objective," he said. 887 00:56:57,750 --> 00:56:59,183 "We took that objective. 888 00:56:59,283 --> 00:57:02,783 "The VC left and their casualties were greater 889 00:57:02,883 --> 00:57:05,450 "than those of the government forces. 890 00:57:05,550 --> 00:57:07,183 What more do you want?" 891 00:57:08,650 --> 00:57:10,983 When Halberstam and Sheehan reported 892 00:57:11,083 --> 00:57:13,983 that Ap Bac had in fact been a defeat, 893 00:57:14,083 --> 00:57:18,150 the U.S. Commander in the Pacific denied it all 894 00:57:18,250 --> 00:57:23,783 and urged the reporters to "get on the team." 895 00:57:23,883 --> 00:57:25,916 SHEEHAN: Ap Bac was terribly important. 896 00:57:26,016 --> 00:57:28,183 They had shot down five helicopters, 897 00:57:28,283 --> 00:57:30,683 which they previously had been terrified of. 898 00:57:30,783 --> 00:57:34,850 They'd stopped the armored personnel carriers. 899 00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:36,950 They demonstrated to their own people 900 00:57:37,050 --> 00:57:40,116 that you could resist the Americans and win. 901 00:57:43,816 --> 00:57:46,050 LE QUAN CONG: 902 00:57:59,783 --> 00:58:03,550 NARRATOR: In Hanoi, the Battle of Ap Bac was seen 903 00:58:03,650 --> 00:58:08,250 by Party First Secretary Le Duan and his Politburo allies 904 00:58:08,350 --> 00:58:10,550 as evidence of the inherent weakness 905 00:58:10,650 --> 00:58:13,616 of the South Vietnamese regime. 906 00:58:13,716 --> 00:58:17,450 Even when faced with American advisors and weaponry, 907 00:58:17,550 --> 00:58:21,316 the Viet Cong had learned how to inflict heavy casualties 908 00:58:21,416 --> 00:58:25,216 on Saigon's forces, and get away again. 909 00:58:26,716 --> 00:58:30,516 In Saigon, President Diem claimed the ARVN were winning, 910 00:58:30,616 --> 00:58:31,850 not losing. 911 00:58:31,950 --> 00:58:35,216 Ap Bac had only been a momentary setback. 912 00:58:35,316 --> 00:58:37,116 And he resented Americans telling him 913 00:58:37,216 --> 00:58:40,816 how to fight his battles or run his country. 914 00:58:40,916 --> 00:58:45,916 The president's sister-in-law, Madame Nhu, went further. 915 00:58:46,016 --> 00:58:50,416 She denounced the Americans as "false brothers." 916 00:58:51,883 --> 00:58:54,683 "We don't have a prayer of staying in Vietnam," 917 00:58:54,783 --> 00:58:58,850 President Kennedy privately told a friend that spring. 918 00:58:58,950 --> 00:59:01,016 "These people hate us. 919 00:59:01,116 --> 00:59:04,450 "But I can't give up a piece of territory like that 920 00:59:04,550 --> 00:59:09,050 to the communists and then get the people to reelect me." 921 00:59:13,150 --> 00:59:15,683 (loud commotion) 922 00:59:15,783 --> 00:59:17,316 ED HERLIHY: Buddhist monks and nuns are joined 923 00:59:17,416 --> 00:59:18,816 by thousands of sympathizers 924 00:59:18,916 --> 00:59:20,583 to protest the government's restrictions 925 00:59:20,683 --> 00:59:23,616 on the practice of their religion in South Vietnam. 926 00:59:25,216 --> 00:59:28,783 SHEEHAN: Diem began by alienating the rural population. 927 00:59:28,883 --> 00:59:31,450 And that started the Viet Cong. 928 00:59:31,550 --> 00:59:34,383 And now he was alienating the urban population. 929 00:59:34,483 --> 00:59:37,016 HERLIHY: Seventy percent of the population is Buddhist 930 00:59:37,116 --> 00:59:38,616 and the demonstrators clashed with the police 931 00:59:38,716 --> 00:59:42,883 during the week-long series of incidents like this. 932 00:59:42,983 --> 00:59:46,383 NARRATOR: In the months that followed the Battle of Ap Bac, 933 00:59:46,483 --> 00:59:51,150 South Vietnam plunged into civil strife that had little to do 934 00:59:51,250 --> 00:59:54,050 with the Viet Cong. 935 00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:58,116 Religion and nationalism were at its heart. 936 00:59:58,216 --> 01:00:01,950 A Catholic minority had for years dominated the government 937 01:00:02,050 --> 01:00:04,883 of an overwhelmingly Buddhist country. 938 01:00:06,483 --> 01:00:08,883 That spring in the city of Hue, 939 01:00:08,983 --> 01:00:11,916 Christian flags had been flown to celebrate 940 01:00:12,016 --> 01:00:15,150 the 25th anniversary of the ordination 941 01:00:15,250 --> 01:00:18,050 of Diem's older brother as a Catholic bishop. 942 01:00:21,183 --> 01:00:24,516 But when the Buddhists of the city flew their flags 943 01:00:24,616 --> 01:00:29,950 to celebrate the 2,527th birthday of Lord Buddha, 944 01:00:30,050 --> 01:00:32,883 police tore them down. 945 01:00:32,983 --> 01:00:35,616 Protesters took to the streets. 946 01:00:37,716 --> 01:00:41,516 The Catholic deputy province chief sent security forces 947 01:00:41,616 --> 01:00:44,416 to suppress the demonstration. 948 01:00:44,516 --> 01:00:46,083 The soldiers opened fire. 949 01:00:46,183 --> 01:00:47,083 (two gunshots) 950 01:00:47,183 --> 01:00:50,116 Eight protesters died. 951 01:00:50,216 --> 01:00:56,083 The youngest was 12; the oldest was 20. 952 01:00:56,183 --> 01:01:00,050 The Diem regime blamed the Viet Cong. 953 01:01:01,650 --> 01:01:05,450 Monks throughout the country demanded an apology. 954 01:01:14,316 --> 01:01:16,616 They also called for an end to discrimination 955 01:01:16,716 --> 01:01:18,983 by Catholic officials. 956 01:01:19,083 --> 01:01:22,250 Many Buddhists had come to see Diem's policies 957 01:01:22,350 --> 01:01:25,616 as a direct threat to their religious beliefs. 958 01:01:28,416 --> 01:01:32,050 DUONG VAN MAI: My family was against what Diem was doing. 959 01:01:32,150 --> 01:01:34,716 My mother was convinced 960 01:01:34,816 --> 01:01:38,750 that Diem was destroying the Buddhist faith. 961 01:01:38,850 --> 01:01:43,016 She would go to the pagodas and listen to the monks' speeches. 962 01:01:43,116 --> 01:01:46,483 And she was just extremely upset. 963 01:01:47,850 --> 01:01:49,050 She was not alone. 964 01:01:49,150 --> 01:01:51,950 There was a lot of people like her. 965 01:01:52,050 --> 01:01:55,983 NARRATOR: American officials urged Diem and his brother Nhu 966 01:01:56,083 --> 01:01:59,383 to make meaningful concessions to the Buddhists, 967 01:01:59,483 --> 01:02:01,516 for the sake of maintaining unity 968 01:02:01,616 --> 01:02:04,150 in the struggle against communism. 969 01:02:04,250 --> 01:02:05,883 They refused. 970 01:02:08,416 --> 01:02:13,383 On June 10, 1963, Malcolm Browne of the Associated Press 971 01:02:13,483 --> 01:02:16,350 received an anonymous tip: 972 01:02:16,450 --> 01:02:19,616 something important was going to happen the next day 973 01:02:19,716 --> 01:02:23,116 at a major intersection in Saigon. 974 01:02:23,216 --> 01:02:25,150 He took his camera. 975 01:02:32,683 --> 01:02:36,050 To protest the Diem regime's repression, 976 01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:42,550 a 73-year-old monk named Quang Duc set himself on fire. 977 01:03:00,150 --> 01:03:05,283 As a large, hushed crowd watched him burn to death, 978 01:03:05,383 --> 01:03:08,816 another monk repeated over and over again 979 01:03:08,916 --> 01:03:11,850 in English and Vietnamese, 980 01:03:11,950 --> 01:03:14,883 "A Buddhist monk becomes a martyr. 981 01:03:14,983 --> 01:03:17,616 A Buddhist monk becomes a martyr." 982 01:03:24,416 --> 01:03:27,283 SHEEHAN: I remember they held the ashes 983 01:03:27,383 --> 01:03:29,883 of the monk who burned himself to death 984 01:03:29,983 --> 01:03:32,983 where it was kept in one of the main pagodas. 985 01:03:33,083 --> 01:03:39,183 And lines of people came to pass by, and I saw these women, 986 01:03:39,283 --> 01:03:42,250 not rich women, ordinary Vietnamese women, 987 01:03:42,350 --> 01:03:45,316 take off the one piece of gold they had on, their wedding ring, 988 01:03:45,416 --> 01:03:50,316 and drop it in the bottle to contribute to the struggle. 989 01:03:50,416 --> 01:03:54,250 And I thought to myself, "This regime is over. 990 01:03:54,350 --> 01:03:55,416 It's the end." 991 01:03:59,516 --> 01:04:02,116 NARRATOR: Soon other monks would become martyrs. 992 01:04:05,383 --> 01:04:10,916 Fresh outbursts by Madame Nhu only made things worse. 993 01:04:11,016 --> 01:04:14,483 Burning monks made her clap her hands, she said. 994 01:04:14,583 --> 01:04:17,150 If more monks wanted to burn themselves, 995 01:04:17,250 --> 01:04:20,350 she would provide the matches. 996 01:04:20,450 --> 01:04:22,316 The only thing they have done, 997 01:04:22,416 --> 01:04:28,116 they have barbecued one of their monks, 998 01:04:28,216 --> 01:04:33,750 whom they have intoxicated, whom they have abused the confidence. 999 01:04:33,850 --> 01:04:38,150 And even that barbecuing was done 1000 01:04:38,250 --> 01:04:40,483 not even with self-sufficient means 1001 01:04:40,583 --> 01:04:43,616 because they-they used imported gasoline. 1002 01:04:45,316 --> 01:04:47,950 DUONG VAN MAI: They thought she was arrogant, 1003 01:04:48,050 --> 01:04:49,516 she was power hungry. 1004 01:04:49,616 --> 01:04:52,883 They suspected her and her husband of being corrupt. 1005 01:04:52,983 --> 01:04:59,250 Nhu ran the secret police, which arrested and tortured people. 1006 01:04:59,350 --> 01:05:02,550 People feared the Diem regime. 1007 01:05:02,650 --> 01:05:06,216 Perhaps more than they feared it, they really hated it. 1008 01:05:08,483 --> 01:05:11,116 NARRATOR: Students, including many Catholics, 1009 01:05:11,216 --> 01:05:13,683 rallied to the Buddhist cause. 1010 01:05:13,783 --> 01:05:16,983 So did some army officers. 1011 01:05:17,083 --> 01:05:21,350 People among the military had to ask the question, 1012 01:05:21,450 --> 01:05:24,750 "Can we continue this kind of situation like that 1013 01:05:24,850 --> 01:05:28,250 "when the whole country, country was almost burning 1014 01:05:28,350 --> 01:05:29,983 with the kind of protest from the Buddhists?" 1015 01:05:30,083 --> 01:05:31,016 You see? 1016 01:05:34,683 --> 01:05:38,616 ZIMMERMAN: I first became aware of Vietnam because of a burning monk. 1017 01:05:41,150 --> 01:05:45,950 We had watched the civil rights movement in the South 1018 01:05:46,050 --> 01:05:48,950 and it had set the standard for us 1019 01:05:49,050 --> 01:05:55,383 to stand up against injustice, allow yourself to be beaten up, 1020 01:05:55,483 --> 01:05:57,783 allow yourself to be attacked by a dog 1021 01:05:57,883 --> 01:06:00,216 or hit by a police truncheon. 1022 01:06:00,316 --> 01:06:02,183 And we had enormous respect 1023 01:06:02,283 --> 01:06:05,416 for people who were willing to go that far. 1024 01:06:09,816 --> 01:06:12,716 And then one day in 1963, 1025 01:06:12,816 --> 01:06:17,250 we saw on television a picture of a monk in Saigon. 1026 01:06:18,683 --> 01:06:20,816 This was an extraordinary act. 1027 01:06:23,216 --> 01:06:26,016 Why was a Buddhist monk burning himself 1028 01:06:26,116 --> 01:06:28,850 on the streets of Saigon? 1029 01:06:31,583 --> 01:06:33,983 NARRATOR: The protests continued. 1030 01:06:34,083 --> 01:06:38,916 Tensions between Washington and Saigon steadily worsened. 1031 01:06:39,016 --> 01:06:42,916 The more the Kennedy Administration demanded change, 1032 01:06:43,016 --> 01:06:46,983 the more Diem and his brother Nhu seemed to resist. 1033 01:06:48,650 --> 01:06:51,383 The White House announced that a new American ambassador, 1034 01:06:51,483 --> 01:06:56,616 former senator Henry Cabot Lodge, was being sent to Saigon, 1035 01:06:56,716 --> 01:06:59,183 a man eminent enough, the president hoped, 1036 01:06:59,283 --> 01:07:04,350 to make Diem listen more closely to American advice. 1037 01:07:04,450 --> 01:07:08,216 Diem professed to be unimpressed. 1038 01:07:08,316 --> 01:07:10,950 "They can send ten Lodges," he said, 1039 01:07:11,050 --> 01:07:14,983 "but I will not let myself or my country be humiliated, 1040 01:07:15,083 --> 01:07:18,850 not if they train their artillery on this palace." 1041 01:07:18,950 --> 01:07:23,516 He did promise the outgoing ambassador, Frederick Nolting, 1042 01:07:23,616 --> 01:07:26,350 that he would take no further repressive steps 1043 01:07:26,450 --> 01:07:28,016 against the Buddhists. 1044 01:07:29,783 --> 01:07:35,016 Then, a few minutes after midnight on August 21, 1963, 1045 01:07:35,116 --> 01:07:38,583 with Nolting gone and Henry Cabot Lodge's arrival 1046 01:07:38,683 --> 01:07:42,216 still one day away, Diem cut the phone lines 1047 01:07:42,316 --> 01:07:45,650 of all the senior American officials in Saigon 1048 01:07:45,749 --> 01:07:49,283 and sent hundreds of his Special Forces 1049 01:07:49,383 --> 01:07:53,183 storming into Buddhist pagodas in Saigon, Hue, 1050 01:07:53,283 --> 01:07:56,483 and several other South Vietnamese cities. 1051 01:07:56,583 --> 01:07:59,350 Some 1,400 monks and nuns, 1052 01:07:59,450 --> 01:08:05,050 students and ordinary citizens were rounded up and taken away. 1053 01:08:05,150 --> 01:08:08,716 (shouting) 1054 01:08:12,883 --> 01:08:17,316 Martial law was imposed, public meetings were forbidden, 1055 01:08:17,416 --> 01:08:21,816 troops were authorized to shoot anyone found on the streets 1056 01:08:21,916 --> 01:08:23,550 after 9:00. 1057 01:08:23,650 --> 01:08:26,950 PETER ROBERTS: Tanks guard a pagoda in Saigon 1058 01:08:27,050 --> 01:08:29,716 during South Vietnam's bafflingly complicated crisis 1059 01:08:29,816 --> 01:08:32,816 that has the government of President Ngo Dinh Diem, 1060 01:08:32,916 --> 01:08:36,650 students, and Buddhists, and the United States government 1061 01:08:36,750 --> 01:08:40,350 all trying to guess one another's next move. 1062 01:08:40,450 --> 01:08:44,250 NARRATOR: When college students protested in support of the monks, 1063 01:08:44,350 --> 01:08:47,883 Diem closed Vietnam's universities. 1064 01:08:47,983 --> 01:08:51,750 High school students then poured into the streets. 1065 01:08:51,850 --> 01:08:54,416 He shut down all the high schools 1066 01:08:54,516 --> 01:08:55,683 and the grammar schools, too, 1067 01:08:55,783 --> 01:08:59,016 and arrested thousands of school children, 1068 01:08:59,116 --> 01:09:01,983 including the sons and daughters of officials 1069 01:09:02,083 --> 01:09:04,050 in his own government. 1070 01:09:04,150 --> 01:09:07,216 PHAN QUANG TUE: I participated in the demonstrations. 1071 01:09:07,316 --> 01:09:14,183 I strongly believed that that government has to be overthrown 1072 01:09:14,283 --> 01:09:16,383 because it's a dictator government. 1073 01:09:16,483 --> 01:09:18,450 We couldn't stand it anymore 1074 01:09:18,550 --> 01:09:22,216 and this is an opportunity to rise against it. 1075 01:09:22,316 --> 01:09:26,283 NARRATOR: Phan Quang Tue was a law student that summer. 1076 01:09:26,383 --> 01:09:30,283 His father was a prominent nationalist whom Diem had jailed 1077 01:09:30,383 --> 01:09:33,616 for calling for greater democracy. 1078 01:09:33,716 --> 01:09:37,216 PHAN QUANG TUE: I was and I'm still a Catholic, 1079 01:09:37,316 --> 01:09:39,550 not a very good Catholic. 1080 01:09:39,650 --> 01:09:41,483 I don't practice religiously. 1081 01:09:41,583 --> 01:09:43,483 But I'm a Catholic. 1082 01:09:44,983 --> 01:09:46,416 I was rightly arrested 1083 01:09:46,516 --> 01:09:49,583 because I did participate in demonstration. 1084 01:09:49,683 --> 01:09:52,583 And I was interrogated 1085 01:09:52,683 --> 01:09:55,750 and briefly tortured, beaten a little bit. 1086 01:10:00,050 --> 01:10:02,850 HERLIHY: Henry Cabot Lodge took over as U.S. ambassador 1087 01:10:02,950 --> 01:10:04,416 in the midst of the turmoil. 1088 01:10:04,516 --> 01:10:05,850 And he has reported to have demanded 1089 01:10:05,950 --> 01:10:08,116 that President Diem's brother Nhu be ousted 1090 01:10:08,216 --> 01:10:10,583 or U.S. aid to Vietnam will be cut. 1091 01:10:13,950 --> 01:10:15,850 NARRATOR: In the wake of the pagoda raids, 1092 01:10:15,950 --> 01:10:18,316 a small group of South Vietnamese generals 1093 01:10:18,416 --> 01:10:21,983 contacted the CIA in Saigon. 1094 01:10:22,083 --> 01:10:25,516 Diem's brother Nhu was now largely in control 1095 01:10:25,616 --> 01:10:27,583 of the government, they said. 1096 01:10:27,683 --> 01:10:32,316 What would Washington's reaction be if they mounted a coup? 1097 01:10:32,416 --> 01:10:35,416 President Kennedy and his senior advisors 1098 01:10:35,516 --> 01:10:40,316 happened to be out of town, so Roger Hilsman, Jr., 1099 01:10:40,416 --> 01:10:43,883 assistant secretary of state for Far Eastern affairs 1100 01:10:43,983 --> 01:10:46,283 and a critic of the Diem regime, 1101 01:10:46,383 --> 01:10:50,416 took it upon himself to draft a cable with new instructions 1102 01:10:50,516 --> 01:10:53,350 for Ambassador Lodge. 1103 01:10:53,450 --> 01:10:57,316 The U.S. government could no longer tolerate a situation 1104 01:10:57,416 --> 01:11:01,583 in which power lay in Nhu's hands, it said. 1105 01:11:01,683 --> 01:11:04,916 Diem should be given a chance to rid himself of his brother. 1106 01:11:06,350 --> 01:11:09,883 If he refused, Lodge was to tell the generals, 1107 01:11:09,983 --> 01:11:13,483 "then we must face the possibility that Diem himself 1108 01:11:13,583 --> 01:11:17,350 cannot be preserved." 1109 01:11:17,450 --> 01:11:21,083 The president was vacationing at Hyannis Port, Massachusetts. 1110 01:11:21,183 --> 01:11:25,050 Undersecretary of State George Ball read part of the cable 1111 01:11:25,150 --> 01:11:28,216 to him over the phone. 1112 01:11:28,316 --> 01:11:30,483 Since the early 1950s, 1113 01:11:30,583 --> 01:11:32,150 the United States government had encouraged 1114 01:11:32,250 --> 01:11:38,483 and even orchestrated other Cold War coups in Iran, Guatemala, 1115 01:11:38,583 --> 01:11:42,983 the Congo, and elsewhere. 1116 01:11:43,083 --> 01:11:46,916 Kennedy decided to approve Hilsman's cable 1117 01:11:47,016 --> 01:11:50,150 in part because he thought his top advisors 1118 01:11:50,250 --> 01:11:52,283 had already endorsed it. 1119 01:11:52,383 --> 01:11:55,183 They had not. 1120 01:11:55,283 --> 01:12:00,383 And somehow, because of a cable that came out from Washington, 1121 01:12:00,483 --> 01:12:03,783 Lodge decided that the only solution was to get rid 1122 01:12:03,883 --> 01:12:07,583 of not just Ngo Dinh Nhu, the bad brother, 1123 01:12:07,683 --> 01:12:10,116 but also of Diem himself. 1124 01:12:10,216 --> 01:12:12,283 And that started us on this whole business 1125 01:12:12,383 --> 01:12:15,150 of promoting a coup. 1126 01:12:15,250 --> 01:12:18,616 And it was not a good idea. 1127 01:12:18,716 --> 01:12:21,483 I just had a feeling of impending disaster. 1128 01:12:22,683 --> 01:12:25,283 NARRATOR: On September 2, 1963, 1129 01:12:25,383 --> 01:12:29,016 Labor Day, Walter Cronkite of CBS News 1130 01:12:29,116 --> 01:12:31,616 interviewed President Kennedy. 1131 01:12:31,716 --> 01:12:35,716 The president used the opportunity to deliver a message 1132 01:12:35,816 --> 01:12:37,583 to President Diem. 1133 01:12:37,683 --> 01:12:41,416 Mr. President, the only hot war we've got running at the moment 1134 01:12:41,516 --> 01:12:43,983 is of course the one in Vietnam, 1135 01:12:44,083 --> 01:12:46,916 and we've got our difficulties there, quite obviously. 1136 01:12:47,016 --> 01:12:51,516 I don't think that unless a greater effort is made 1137 01:12:51,616 --> 01:12:53,483 by the government to win popular support 1138 01:12:53,583 --> 01:12:54,950 that the war can be won out there. 1139 01:12:55,050 --> 01:12:56,916 In the final analysis, it's their war. 1140 01:12:57,016 --> 01:13:00,883 Hasn't every indication from Saigon been 1141 01:13:00,983 --> 01:13:03,016 that President Diem has no intention 1142 01:13:03,116 --> 01:13:04,016 of changing his pattern? 1143 01:13:04,116 --> 01:13:05,016 If he doesn't change it, 1144 01:13:05,116 --> 01:13:06,950 of course, that's his decision. 1145 01:13:07,050 --> 01:13:09,050 He has been there ten years and, as I say, 1146 01:13:09,150 --> 01:13:10,416 he has carried this burden 1147 01:13:10,516 --> 01:13:11,850 when he has been counted out on a number of occasions. 1148 01:13:11,950 --> 01:13:12,950 Our best judgment is 1149 01:13:13,050 --> 01:13:15,550 that he can't be successful in this basis. 1150 01:13:15,650 --> 01:13:18,216 But I don't agree with those who say we should withdraw. 1151 01:13:18,316 --> 01:13:19,483 That would be a great mistake. 1152 01:13:19,583 --> 01:13:20,850 That'd be a great mistake. 1153 01:13:20,950 --> 01:13:22,816 I know people don't like Americans to be engaged 1154 01:13:22,916 --> 01:13:23,916 in this kind of an effort. 1155 01:13:24,016 --> 01:13:26,383 47 Americans have been killed. 1156 01:13:26,483 --> 01:13:28,383 We're in a very 1157 01:13:28,483 --> 01:13:31,250 desperate struggle against the communist system. 1158 01:13:31,350 --> 01:13:34,583 And I don't want Asia to pass into the control of the Chinese. 1159 01:13:34,683 --> 01:13:36,816 Do you think that this government still has time 1160 01:13:36,916 --> 01:13:39,350 to-to regain the support of the people? 1161 01:13:39,450 --> 01:13:41,883 I do. 1162 01:13:41,983 --> 01:13:44,683 With changes in policy and perhaps in personnel, 1163 01:13:44,783 --> 01:13:46,216 I think it can. 1164 01:13:46,316 --> 01:13:49,583 If it doesn't make those changes, 1165 01:13:49,683 --> 01:13:51,883 I would think that the chances of winning it 1166 01:13:51,983 --> 01:13:53,650 would not be very good. 1167 01:13:55,383 --> 01:13:58,183 NARRATOR: Despite the cable, Kennedy and his advisors 1168 01:13:58,283 --> 01:14:01,616 were sharply divided about a coup. 1169 01:14:01,716 --> 01:14:06,983 Robert McNamara, Maxwell Taylor, Vice President Lyndon Johnson, 1170 01:14:07,083 --> 01:14:11,416 and the head of the CIA all cautioned against it, 1171 01:14:11,516 --> 01:14:14,916 because, while none of them especially admired Diem, 1172 01:14:15,016 --> 01:14:19,583 they did not believe there was any viable alternative. 1173 01:14:19,683 --> 01:14:22,650 GREGG: Fritz Nolting was called in. 1174 01:14:22,750 --> 01:14:25,183 And he said, "As difficult as they are to deal with, 1175 01:14:25,283 --> 01:14:30,216 "there is nobody with the guts and sangfroid in Vietnam 1176 01:14:30,316 --> 01:14:32,016 "of Diem and his brother Nhu. 1177 01:14:32,116 --> 01:14:35,483 "And if we let them go we will be saddled 1178 01:14:35,583 --> 01:14:39,450 by a descending cycle of mediocre generals." 1179 01:14:39,550 --> 01:14:41,516 And he was absolutely correct. 1180 01:14:43,183 --> 01:14:46,016 NARRATOR: But several State Department officials believed 1181 01:14:46,116 --> 01:14:50,850 that without fresh leadership, South Vietnam could not survive. 1182 01:14:50,950 --> 01:14:54,216 The debate intensified. 1183 01:14:55,383 --> 01:14:57,250 "My God," the president said, 1184 01:14:57,350 --> 01:15:00,683 "my administration is coming apart." 1185 01:15:00,783 --> 01:15:04,116 In the end, Kennedy instructed Lodge 1186 01:15:04,216 --> 01:15:06,516 to tell the renegade generals 1187 01:15:06,616 --> 01:15:08,916 that while the United States does not wish 1188 01:15:09,016 --> 01:15:13,083 to stimulate a coup, it would not thwart one either. 1189 01:15:14,583 --> 01:15:17,616 The generals laid their plans. 1190 01:15:17,716 --> 01:15:20,216 (gunfire) 1191 01:15:23,950 --> 01:15:29,550 On November 1, 1963, troops loyal to the plotters 1192 01:15:29,650 --> 01:15:31,750 seized key installations in Saigon 1193 01:15:31,850 --> 01:15:35,316 and demanded Diem and Nhu surrender. 1194 01:15:37,850 --> 01:15:40,283 REPORTER: The battle for the city went on for 18 hours 1195 01:15:40,383 --> 01:15:43,616 and most of it was centered on the presidential palace. 1196 01:15:43,716 --> 01:15:47,183 Just after 6:30 in the morning Saturday, the shooting ceased. 1197 01:15:49,516 --> 01:15:51,383 (people cheering) 1198 01:15:56,116 --> 01:16:01,416 NARRATOR: Diem and Nhu escaped, took sanctuary in a church, 1199 01:16:01,516 --> 01:16:04,483 and agreed to surrender to the rebels in exchange 1200 01:16:04,583 --> 01:16:08,316 for the promise of safe passage out of the country. 1201 01:16:08,416 --> 01:16:11,883 They were picked up in an armored personnel carrier... 1202 01:16:11,983 --> 01:16:13,883 (gunshot) 1203 01:16:13,983 --> 01:16:18,083 And murdered soon after they climbed inside. 1204 01:16:18,183 --> 01:16:19,516 (gunshot) 1205 01:16:22,883 --> 01:16:26,250 Madame Nhu survived the coup. 1206 01:16:26,350 --> 01:16:29,616 She was on a goodwill tour in the United States. 1207 01:16:34,850 --> 01:16:37,383 PHAN QUANG TUE: The system was overthrown on November 1. 1208 01:16:37,483 --> 01:16:40,083 I was released November 4. 1209 01:16:40,183 --> 01:16:46,283 And it was the most exciting moment in the life of Saigon. 1210 01:16:48,116 --> 01:16:53,383 The excitement, you could feel it in the air. 1211 01:16:53,483 --> 01:16:57,916 DUONG VAN MAI: I was thinking that, yeah, it's a good thing. 1212 01:16:58,016 --> 01:17:01,650 Diem was making it impossible to win the war 1213 01:17:01,750 --> 01:17:05,216 because people were so against him 1214 01:17:05,316 --> 01:17:09,816 that the war would be lost if he stayed in power. 1215 01:17:11,450 --> 01:17:13,516 My father was a bit worried 1216 01:17:13,616 --> 01:17:15,716 because he didn't know who was going to replace Diem. 1217 01:17:18,516 --> 01:17:21,050 NARRATOR: Ambassador Lodge reported to Washington 1218 01:17:21,150 --> 01:17:25,683 that "every Vietnamese has a smile on his face today." 1219 01:17:25,783 --> 01:17:29,383 "The prospects are now for a shorter war," he said, 1220 01:17:29,483 --> 01:17:32,350 "provided the generals stay together. 1221 01:17:32,450 --> 01:17:35,183 "Certainly officers and soldiers 1222 01:17:35,283 --> 01:17:38,383 who can pull off an operation like this," he continued, 1223 01:17:38,483 --> 01:17:41,816 "should be able to do very well on the battlefield 1224 01:17:41,916 --> 01:17:44,383 if their hearts are in it." 1225 01:17:47,150 --> 01:17:50,283 President Kennedy was not so sure. 1226 01:17:50,383 --> 01:17:54,616 He was appalled that Diem and Nhu had been killed. 1227 01:17:54,716 --> 01:17:58,316 Three days later, he dictated his own rueful account 1228 01:17:58,416 --> 01:18:02,550 of the coup and his concerns for the future. 1229 01:18:04,150 --> 01:18:07,950 KENNEDY: Monday, November 4, 1963. 1230 01:18:08,050 --> 01:18:10,983 Over the weekend the coup in Saigon took place. 1231 01:18:11,083 --> 01:18:13,850 It culminated three months of conversation, 1232 01:18:13,950 --> 01:18:19,116 which divided the government here and in Saigon. 1233 01:18:19,216 --> 01:18:24,316 I feel that we must bear a good deal of responsibility for it, 1234 01:18:24,416 --> 01:18:27,350 beginning with our cable of August 1235 01:18:27,450 --> 01:18:30,050 in which we suggested the coup. 1236 01:18:30,150 --> 01:18:32,950 I should not have given my consent to it 1237 01:18:33,050 --> 01:18:35,316 without a roundtable conference. 1238 01:18:37,350 --> 01:18:42,716 I was shocked by the death of Diem and Nhu. 1239 01:18:42,816 --> 01:18:46,850 The way he was killed made it particularly abhorrent. 1240 01:18:46,950 --> 01:18:49,483 The question now is whether the generals can stay together 1241 01:18:49,583 --> 01:18:53,350 and build a stable government or whether public opinion in Saigon 1242 01:18:53,450 --> 01:18:57,116 will turn on this government as repressive and undemocratic 1243 01:18:57,216 --> 01:18:59,150 in the not-too-distant future. 1244 01:19:04,183 --> 01:19:06,483 NARRATOR: Kennedy would not live to see the answer 1245 01:19:06,583 --> 01:19:09,083 to the question he had asked. 1246 01:19:09,183 --> 01:19:13,583 He was murdered in Dallas 18 days later. 1247 01:19:13,683 --> 01:19:18,650 There were now 16,000 American advisors in South Vietnam. 1248 01:19:18,750 --> 01:19:24,083 Their fate and the fate of that embattled country rested 1249 01:19:24,183 --> 01:19:29,350 with another American president, Lyndon Baines Johnson. 1250 01:19:29,450 --> 01:19:33,416 (distorted rock music playing) 1251 01:19:46,850 --> 01:19:48,983 SHEEHAN: We thought we were the exceptions to history, 1252 01:19:49,083 --> 01:19:50,550 we Americans. 1253 01:19:50,650 --> 01:19:53,283 History didn't apply to us. 1254 01:19:53,383 --> 01:19:55,516 We could never fight a bad war. 1255 01:19:55,616 --> 01:19:57,483 We could never represent the wrong cause. 1256 01:19:57,583 --> 01:19:58,716 We were Americans. 1257 01:19:59,916 --> 01:20:01,150 Well, in Vietnam it proved 1258 01:20:01,250 --> 01:20:03,750 that we were not an exception to history. 1259 01:20:04,983 --> 01:20:07,283 (distorted rock music continues) 1260 01:20:16,250 --> 01:20:18,650 ("Mean Old World" by Sam Cooke playing) 1261 01:20:22,950 --> 01:20:31,716 ♪ This is a mean old world to live in all by yourself ♪ 1262 01:20:36,450 --> 01:20:42,683 ♪ This is a mean old world to live in ♪ 1263 01:20:42,783 --> 01:20:45,483 ♪ All by yourself 1264 01:20:49,316 --> 01:20:56,350 ♪ This is a mean world to be alone ♪ 1265 01:20:56,450 --> 01:21:02,383 ♪ Without someone to call your own ♪ 1266 01:21:02,483 --> 01:21:08,483 ♪ This is a mean old world to try and live in ♪ 1267 01:21:08,583 --> 01:21:11,050 ♪ All by yourself 1268 01:21:15,283 --> 01:21:21,383 ♪ I wish I had someone, someone ♪ 1269 01:21:21,483 --> 01:21:23,716 ♪ Who'd love me true 1270 01:21:28,150 --> 01:21:38,350 ♪ I wish I had someone who loved me true ♪ 1271 01:21:40,983 --> 01:21:47,350 ♪ If I had someone who loved me true ♪ 1272 01:21:47,450 --> 01:21:53,950 ♪ Then I know I wouldn't be so blue ♪ 1273 01:21:54,050 --> 01:22:00,616 ♪ This is a mean old world to try and live in ♪ 1274 01:22:00,716 --> 01:22:03,216 ♪ All by yourself 1275 01:22:05,483 --> 01:22:13,650 ♪ Lord, I find myself dreaming 1276 01:22:13,750 --> 01:22:15,983 ♪ I found a love 1277 01:22:19,383 --> 01:22:26,650 ♪ Sometimes I find myself dreaming ♪ 1278 01:22:26,750 --> 01:22:30,050 ♪ I found a love 1279 01:22:32,450 --> 01:22:40,350 ♪ Sometimes I dream I've really found a love ♪ 1280 01:22:40,450 --> 01:22:46,383 ♪ Someone who loved me true as the stars above ♪ 1281 01:22:46,483 --> 01:22:51,950 ♪ For this is a mean old world to try and live in ♪ 1282 01:22:52,050 --> 01:22:56,250 ♪ All by yourself.