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[ Birds chirping ]

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Man:
THE STATE OF SOUTH DAKOTA

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HAS DECIDED THAT THEY'RE
GOING TO PASS A STATUTE

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THAT LITERALLY ECHOES THE
KIND OF STATUTE THAT EXISTED

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PRIOR TO THE DECISION
IN ROE VERSUS WADE.

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IT SAYS THAT ABORTION IS
PROHIBITED IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES

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EXCEPT WHERE NECESSARY

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TO PROTECT THE LIFE
OF THE MOTHER.

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GOVERNOR MIKE ROUNDS
WAS UNDER INCREDIBLE PRESSURE

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FROM, NOT JUST IN
THE STATE OF SOUTH DAKOTA,

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BUT ALL OVER THE WORLD.

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HE HAD EMAILS AND LETTERS
AND PRESSURE PUT ON HIM.

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BUT GOVERNOR MIKE ROUNDS

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DID WHAT HE KNEW IN
HIS HEART TO BE TRUTH.

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AND HE DID THE
RIGHT THING.

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AND HE STEPPED
UP TO THE PLATE

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AND HIS NAME WILL
GO DOWN IN HISTORY

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AS A GREAT GOVERNOR.

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AND I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED

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TO SET OUR STANDARDS HIGHER
IN THIS NATION

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AND NOT JUST SETTLE
FOR A PHYSICAL RELATIONSHIP,

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BUT HAVE IT BE SOMETHING
THAT'S A HEART-TO-HEART.

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AND HAVE IT BE
NOT JUST ABOUT LUST

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BUT HAVE IT BE ABOUT LOVE.

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YOU HAVE TO DRAW
THE CONCLUSION

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THAT THERE IS A VERY,
VERY STRONG POSSIBILITY

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THAT WITHIN
THE NEXT THREE YEARS,

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BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME
THAT THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION

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WOULD FIND ITSELF
ON THE BENCHES

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OF THE MEMBERS OF THE
UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT,

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THAT THERE WILL BE
AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
PRESIDENT BUSH

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TO APPOINT
ANOTHER MEMBER

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TO THE UNITED STATES
SUPREME COURT.

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AND GIVEN HIS
SELECTION PROCESS

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AND THE FACT THAT
HE CERTAINLY SUPPORTS

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THE PRO-LIFE SIDE
OF THIS ISSUE,

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I THINK WE HAVE
EVERY REASON TO EXPECT

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THAT PRESIDENT BUSH
WOULD APPOINT ANOTHER
PRO-LIFE JUSTICE,

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WHICH AT THAT
TIME WOULD BE

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FIVE PRO-LIFE VERSUS
FOUR PRO-ABORTION.

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I MEAN, WHAT IT...
WHAT IT REALLY BREAKS
DOWN TO HERE, FOR ME

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IS THAT ABORTION IS
PART OF A HUGE ISSUE
ON BOTH SIDES.

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BUT THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN THE PRO-CHOICE

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AND THE PRO-LIFE
MOVEMENTS RIGHT NOW

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IS THAT THE
PRO-CHOICE MOVEMENT
IS THE ONLY MOVEMENT

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TRULY TRYING,
OR ATTEMPTING,

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TO DECREASE THE
NEED FOR ABORTION.

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IT WOULD BE SENSE-MAKING

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TO SAY THAT BIRTH
CONTROL TO...

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BEING ACCESSIBLE
AND AFFORDABLE TO PEOPLE

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THAT WANT TO PREVENT
UNWANTED PREGNANCIES

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WOULD BE CRUCIAL.

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BUT YET THE
PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT

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IS NOT ONLY
TARGETING ABORTION,

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BUT THEY'RE TARGETING
BIRTH CONTROL,

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THEY'RE EQUATING
BIRTH CONTROL TO ABORTION,

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ESPECIALLY
EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTION.

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AND THEN NEXT,
THEY GO AFTER SEX EDUCATION.

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SO IN THE PRO-LIFE
MOVEMENT'S IDEAL,

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PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE SEX
UNTIL MARRIAGE,

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NOR DO THEY KNOW ANYTHING
ABOUT PREGNANCY PREVENTION,

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USE BIRTH CONTROL,

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OR EVER ENCOUNTER
ANY SEXUAL TRANS...

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SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED
DISEASES.

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IT'S KIND OF AMAZING.

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SO...

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I WISH I COULD LIVE THERE.

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[ ♪♪♪ ]

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SOMEONE THAT BELIEVES
IN GOD

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AND HAS A RELATIONSHIP
WITH JESUS CHRIST

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IS GOING TO HEAVEN
AND IS GOING TO LIVE FOREVER.

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SOMEONE THAT DOES NOT HAVE
A RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST

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IS GOING TO
BURN IN HELL FOREVER.

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SO EITHER WAY,
YOU'RE GOING TO LIVE FOREVER.

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YOU CAN MAKE THAT CHOICE,
EITHER HEAVEN OR HELL.

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IT'S UP TO YOU.

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[ ♪♪♪ ]

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Burt:
HELL IS LIKE A LAKE OF FIRE.

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TORMENT FOREVER AND EVER
IN THE LAKE OF FIRE.

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Man:
WHAT IS A LAKE OF FIRE?

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OH, I... I VISUALIZE IT
LIKE IT MUST BE LIKE LAVA

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COMING OUT OF A VOLCANO,
EXCEPT THERE ARE PEOPLE IN IT,

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AND THEY'RE BURNING
AND BURNING AND BURNING

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AND THEY WANT TO DIE,
BUT THEY CAN NEVER DIE.

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HEAVEN IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL
PLACE YOU CAN IMAGINE.

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THERE'S NO SICKNESS,
THERE'S NO TEARS,
THERE'S NO CRIME.

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AND BEST OF ALL,
JESUS IS THERE.

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[ Singing in Latin ]

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Man:
I THANK YOU FOR
ALL THE YOUNG PEOPLE

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THAT HAVE COME OUT
TODAY, FATHER.

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I THANK YOU FOR THEIR
ZEAL AND FOR THEIR
COMMITMENT, FATHER GOD.

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AND I PRAY THAT YOU BLESS
THEM FOR THAT, LORD.

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AND I PRAY MOSTLY THAT
THEY TAKE THIS HOME
WITH THEM, FATHER GOD,

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THAT THIS IS NOT
A ONCE-A-YEAR EVENT, FATHER,

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THAT THIS IS A DAILY EVENT
FOR THEM, GOD.

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GOD, I PRAY THAT
YOU KEEP ME HUMBLE

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AND I PRAY THAT YOU
HELP ME TO LEAD YOUNG
PEOPLE, FATHER GOD.

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I THANK YOU,
IN JESUS CHRIST'S NAME.

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AMEN.

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THANK YOU, JESUS.

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[ ♪♪♪ ]

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[ ♪♪♪ ]

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Man:
THIS IS MY FOURTH
MARCH FOR LIFE.

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BUT THREE MONTHS AGO,

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I GOT A CALL
FROM MY YOUNGER BROTHER.

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HE SAID, "JEFF,
MY GIRLFRIEND'S PREGNANT.

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I'M SCARED.

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WHAT SHOULD I DO?"

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HE WAS HELPLESS...

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AND HE WAS SCARED.

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AND HE LOVED HIS BABY.

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OUR WHOLE FAMILY
TRIED TO HELP.

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UM...

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MY PARENTS OFFERED
TO ADOPT THE BABY;

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MY BROTHER OFFERED
TO MARRY HIS GIRLFRIEND.

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CHRISTIAN FAMILIES OFFERED
TO GIVE HER A PLACE TO LIVE.

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I WAS ABLE TO PUT HER
IN TOUCH WITH PREGNANCY
HELP CENTERS

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TO PROVIDE HER WITH FOOD,
CLOTHING, A JOB,

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DAYCARE WHILE
SHE WENT TO SCHOOL.

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MY PARENTS OFFERED
TO PAY FOR A BABYSITTER

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IF SHE WANTED
TO KEEP THE BABY.

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AND AT FIRST,
IT SEEMED LIKE, YOU KNOW,

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SHE WANTED
TO HAVE THE BABY,

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AND SHE SEEMED
A BIT EXCITED.

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UM...

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AND THEN SHE TALKED
TO TWO OF HER ROOMMATES

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WHO HAD HAD
ABORTIONS BEFORE...

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AND THINGS
GOT TO BE DESPERATE.

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UH, MAYBE EIGHT WEEKS
INTO THE PREGNANCY,

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MY BROTHER CALLED AND
HE'S LIKE, "JEFF, CALL HER.

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JUST CALL HER.
JUST CALL HER ON THE PHONE.

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I'M SCARED. SHE
SAYS SHE DOESN'T
WANT TO MARRY ME,

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SHE DOESN'T
WANT THE BABY."

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ABOUT THIS NOVEMBER...

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TOWARDS THE END OF NOVEMBER,
NEAR THANKSGIVING...

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MY BROTHER'S GIRLFRIEND
SET UP AN APPOINTMENT

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AT A PITTSBURGH
ABORTION CLINIC.

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HAVE YOU EVER SEEN
THE LOOK ON A FATHER'S FACE

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WHEN HIS CHILD'S
ABOUT TO DIE

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AND HE'S COMPLETELY
HELPLESS TO STOP IT?

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JUST THINK OF
HOW MANY FATHERS

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OF THOSE CROSSES OUT THERE

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WHO DON'T KNOW ANYBODY,

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WHO DON'T KNOW
WHAT'S AVAILABLE FOR HELP,

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HOW DESPERATE
THEY MUST FEEL.

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[ ♪♪♪ ]

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Man:
PRAYING FOR ENDING
OF ABORTION IN AMERICA

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AND THE ENTIRE WORLD
IS A PRAYER

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THAT WOULD BE WORTH
YOUR WHILE.

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BECAUSE SOME DAY
THIS THING IS GOING
TO BE TURNED AROUND.

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IT MAY NOT BE
IN OUR LIFETIMES, BUT...

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BUT SOME DAY
WHEN THE MESSIAH RETURNS

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AND AT THE RESURRECTION,

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THE... THE DEAD BODIES
WILL COME OUT OF
THE GRAVES AND...

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AND EVERYONE WILL
HAVE TO ANSWER WHAT
THEY'VE DONE WHERE...

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WHEREVER THEY ARE.

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Various: [ Chanting ]
NOT THE CHURCH,
NOT THE STATE,

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WOMEN MUST
DECIDE THEIR FATE!

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NOT THE CHURCH,
NOT THE STATE,

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WOMEN MUST DECIDE
THEIR FATE!

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NOT THE CHURCH,
NOT THE STATE,

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WOMEN MUST
DECIDE THEIR FATE!

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NOT THE CHURCH,
NOT THE STATE,

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WOMEN MUST DECIDE
THEIR FATE!

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Man:
ONE MINUTE AFTER BIRTH

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IS CAPITAL PUNISHMENT,
MURDER ONE.

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ONE MINUTE BEFORE
IS AN ABORTION.

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IT IS 100% LEGAL.

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A FIRST TRIMESTER ABORTION
IS A TINY PUDDLE OF FLESH!

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PRO-LIFE NUMBER ONE!
GOD LOVES US.

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WHAT IF YOU DON'T
BELIEVE IN GOD?

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THIS SHALL HAPPEN IN
THE PRESENCE OF HIS MAJESTY.

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WOE, WOE, WOE
TO THIS EVIL GENERATION.

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HOW COULD WE SAY
WE BELIEVE IN GOD

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AND BUTCHER ONE AND A HALF
MILLION BABES EVERY YEAR?

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HOW COULD WE?

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Man:
A MIRACLE OF A NEW GENERATION

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THAT WILL CATCH THE VISION
AND SHOULDER THE BURDEN.

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ONLY YOU CAN SEE
BEYOND THIS CROSSROADS.

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ONLY YOU CAN SEE
THE FRUIT OF OUR LABORS
AND OUR SACRIFICE.

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BUT TODAY,
ON THIS 20th ANNIVERSARY,

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WE STAND DETERMINED,
WE STAND UNITED!

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AMEN!

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Crowd:
AMEN.

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Man:
PRAISE GOD.

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[ Applause ]

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♪ GOD BLESS AMERICA

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♪ LAND THAT I LOVE

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♪ STAND BESIDE HER...

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WE HAVE THE PASSION
AND THE VISION

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AND THE COURAGE OF KNOWING
THAT WE ARE RIGHT.

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WE ARE RIGHT,
THEY ARE WRONG,

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AS WE CLING
TO THE WORD OF GOD.

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WHERE... WHERE POLICE
ARE TELLING US
THAT WE CAN'T PRAY.

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WHERE THEY'RE ARRESTING US
FOR SAVING BABIES.

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WHERE WE HAVE
FORCED ABORTION,
FORCED STERILIZATION,

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GANG VIOLENCE
IN OUR CITIES.

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YOU WOMEN WHO HAVE
A MATERNAL PASSION
BEATING IN YOUR BREAST,

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DON'T KEEP IT
IN YOUR KITCHEN ONLY,

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TAKE IT DOWN
TO THE SCHOOL BOARD,

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TAKE IT DOWN TO THE
CITY LEGISLATURE
AND RUN FOR OFFICE.

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I'D RATHER HAVE
A 100 DEBORAHS

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THAN ONE COWARDLY AHAB
WHO COWERS TO JEZEBEL!

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Crowd:
[ Cheering ]

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♪ OUR HOME...

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EVERYONE NOW!

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♪ SWEET

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♪ HOME

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♪ MY HOME SWEET HOME!

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WE HAVE A TWO-FOLD PLAN:
NUMBER ONE IS TO SAVE

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AS MANY CHILDREN
AS WE CAN FROM DEATH.

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AND NUMBER TWO, IT'S
TO BE A PROPHETIC WITNESS

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TO THE CLINTON
ADMINISTRATION

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THAT WE WILL NOT BACK DOWN
ON UPHOLDING THE LAW OF GOD.

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IF THIS NATION...
IF BILL CLINTON

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IS GOING TO REJECT
THE LAW OF GOD,

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THEN THIS NATION
IS GOING TO DIE.

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Woman:
WHAT HAPPENED HERE?

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WHAT HAPPENED WAS
WE HAD, UH,

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OPERATION RESCUE HOLD
THEIR PRAYER VIGIL,

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AS THEY CALL IT,
IN FRONT OF OUR CLINIC,

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AND THEY ATTEMPTED
TO BLOCK IT.

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AND, FORTUNATELY,
WE WERE ABLE TO SUCCEED.

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AND THE POLICE
HELPED US AND WE GOT
ALL OUR PATIENTS IN.

225
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Crowd: [ Chanting ]
TWO, FOUR, SIX, EIGHT,

226
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RANDALL TERRY LOST TODAY!

227
00:14:54,806 --> 00:14:56,678
TWO, FOUR, SIX, EIGHT,

228
00:14:56,721 --> 00:14:58,462
RANDALL TERRY LOST TODAY!

229
00:14:58,506 --> 00:15:00,247
TWO, FOUR, SIX, EIGHT,

230
00:15:00,290 --> 00:15:02,031
RANDALL TERRY LOST TODAY!

231
00:15:02,075 --> 00:15:03,685
TWO, FOUR, SIX, EIGHT...

232
00:15:03,728 --> 00:15:05,556
A COUPLE MONTHS AGO,
WE WENT TO AN
ABORTION MILL

233
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IN NORTH CAROLINA,
TOOK 128 DEAD BABIES,

234
00:15:09,038 --> 00:15:11,693
ARMS, LEGS, HEADS,
EVERYTHING, OUT
OF DUMPSTERS.

235
00:15:11,736 --> 00:15:13,303
WE EVEN GOT A WRITE-UP
IN THE PAPER ABOUT IT.

236
00:15:13,347 --> 00:15:14,609
"THE CHARLOTTE OBSERVER"
ACTUALLY PRINTED IT.

237
00:15:14,652 --> 00:15:16,306
WE'VE BEEN TAKING IT
TO ABORTION MILLS,

238
00:15:16,350 --> 00:15:18,091
GIVING IT TO PEOPLE
THAT ARE GOING IN
FOR ABORTIONS

239
00:15:18,134 --> 00:15:20,049
AND THEY'VE BEEN LEAVING,
GOING TO PLANNED
PARENTHOOD CLINICS,

240
00:15:20,093 --> 00:15:22,704
JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T
WANT THEIR BABY TO WIND
UP IN THAT DUMPSTER.

241
00:15:22,747 --> 00:15:24,706
LADIES, THESE MEN...

242
00:15:24,749 --> 00:15:26,534
YOU'RE PLAYING RIGHT
INTO THEIR HANDS

243
00:15:26,577 --> 00:15:29,232
BECAUSE THEY ARE
EXPLOITING YOU SEXUALLY.

244
00:15:29,276 --> 00:15:31,843
THEY'RE HAVING SEX
WITH YOU WHEN THEY WANT,
WHEN YOU WANT,

245
00:15:31,887 --> 00:15:33,541
THEY'RE USING YOU SEXUALLY

246
00:15:33,584 --> 00:15:35,717
AND THEN THEY'RE PAYING
TO HAVE YOUR BABY KILLED.

247
00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,153
IS THAT LOVING WOMEN?

248
00:15:38,676 --> 00:15:40,983
...YOU'RE RACIST.
I'M NOT A RACIST.

249
00:15:41,027 --> 00:15:42,593
JESUS LOVES YOU EVEN
THOUGH YOU'RE A PIG!

250
00:15:42,637 --> 00:15:44,813
DO YOU KNOW THE
PROCEDURE USED TO BE
TO CRUSH THE HEADS?

251
00:15:44,856 --> 00:15:47,294
NOW THEY'RE WORTH $300,
SO THEY SELL THE HEADS?

252
00:15:47,337 --> 00:15:51,428
Crowd:
♪ NA-NA-NA-NA,
NA-NA-NA-NA ♪

253
00:15:51,472 --> 00:15:54,127
♪ HEY, HEY, HEY, GOODBYE!
THIS IS CALLED DENIAL.

254
00:15:54,170 --> 00:15:56,781
THEY DON'T WANT
TO HEAR THE TRUTH.
THIS IS CALLED DENIAL.

255
00:15:56,825 --> 00:15:58,435
YOU CAN'T EVEN HAVE
A LEGITIMATE CONVERSATION.

256
00:15:58,479 --> 00:16:01,612
EVERY SOCIETY THAT
HAS PROMOTED THE KILLING
OF INNOCENT BLOOD,

257
00:16:01,656 --> 00:16:03,223
THE SHEDDING
OF INNOCENT BLOOD,

258
00:16:03,266 --> 00:16:05,442
NOT TO MENTION
HOMOSEXUALITY, WOULD
HAVE BEEN WIPED OUT.

259
00:16:05,486 --> 00:16:08,619
♪ IF YOU'RE PRO-CHOICE
AND YOU KNOW IT, FIX YOUR WIGS ♪

260
00:16:08,663 --> 00:16:10,012
♪ IF YOU'RE PRO-CHOICE
AND YOU KNOW IT ♪

261
00:16:10,056 --> 00:16:11,579
♪ AND YOU REALLY WANT
TO SHOW IT ♪

262
00:16:11,622 --> 00:16:13,320
♪ IF YOU'RE PRO-CHOICE
AND YOU KNOW IT, FIX YOUR WIGS ♪

263
00:16:13,363 --> 00:16:15,017
WOULD YOU WANT THESE
KIND OF PEOPLE

264
00:16:15,061 --> 00:16:17,280
TO BABY-SIT YOUR CHILDREN?

265
00:16:17,324 --> 00:16:19,413
I MEAN, THINK ABOUT IT.

266
00:16:19,456 --> 00:16:22,807
♪ GLORY, GLORY,
WE ARE PRO-GAY ♪

267
00:16:22,851 --> 00:16:25,636
♪ GLORY, GLORY,
WE ARE PRO-SEX ♪

268
00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,683
♪ CHURCH LADIES
MARCHING ON ♪

269
00:16:28,726 --> 00:16:30,554
THEY MIGHT NOT BE
A GOOD INFLUENCE ON MY KIDS.

270
00:16:30,598 --> 00:16:31,860
I COULD BE WRONG.

271
00:16:31,903 --> 00:16:34,819
IT COULD BE THAT
MY HOMOPHOBIA AND BIGOTRY

272
00:16:34,863 --> 00:16:36,560
HAS MADE ME BLIND,
BUT I THINK...

273
00:16:36,604 --> 00:16:37,735
AGAIN, I COULD BE WRONG...

274
00:16:37,779 --> 00:16:39,520
I THINK THAT
THIS IS PERVERSION.

275
00:16:39,563 --> 00:16:42,131
WHOO!

276
00:16:42,175 --> 00:16:43,785
Man:
RANDALL, JESUS
LOVES EVEN YOU!

277
00:16:43,828 --> 00:16:45,395
DON'T WORRY.
IT'S ALL RIGHT.

278
00:16:45,439 --> 00:16:47,006
WE SPOKE TO HIM
THIS MORNING.

279
00:16:47,049 --> 00:16:49,225
Crowd: [ Chanting ]
RANDALL TERRY GO AWAY...

280
00:16:52,315 --> 00:16:57,233
LISTEN, JEFFREY DAHMER
BELIEVED IN FREEDOM
OF CHOICE!

281
00:16:57,277 --> 00:16:58,974
Man:
SEXIST BIGOTRY!

282
00:16:59,018 --> 00:17:02,325
JEFFREY DAHMER BELIEVED
IN FREEDOM OF CHOICE!

283
00:17:02,369 --> 00:17:05,154
SEXIST BIGOTRY!
AND HE WAS A HOMOSEXUAL!

284
00:17:05,198 --> 00:17:07,722
SEXIST BIGOTRY!
AND HE PRACTICED
NECROPHILIA!

285
00:17:07,765 --> 00:17:09,376
SEXIST BIGOTRY!

286
00:17:09,419 --> 00:17:11,073
DO YOU THINK
JEFFREY DAHMER
WAS A GOOD MAN?

287
00:17:11,117 --> 00:17:12,857
SEXIST BIGOTRY.
THAT'S YOU, RANDALL.

288
00:17:12,901 --> 00:17:15,382
SEE, YOU CAN'T EVEN
CARRY ON A CONVERSATION
WITH THESE PEOPLE.

289
00:17:15,425 --> 00:17:18,428
YOU CAN'T EVEN
CARRY ON A CONVERSATION
WITH THESE PEOPLE.

290
00:17:18,472 --> 00:17:21,431
FOR ANYONE WHO STUDIED
BIOLOGY OR PHYSIOLOGY,

291
00:17:21,475 --> 00:17:23,172
WHO CAN GO INTO THE WOMB

292
00:17:23,216 --> 00:17:24,521
AND LOOK AT THE
GESTATIONAL FACTS

293
00:17:24,565 --> 00:17:27,002
OF WHEN LIFE OCCURS...

294
00:17:27,046 --> 00:17:28,699
JUST LIKE YOU SAID, TONY,

295
00:17:28,743 --> 00:17:31,224
WHEN YOU LOOK
AT THE PRO-LIFE

296
00:17:31,267 --> 00:17:33,356
AND YOU LOOK AT
AN ABORTION PROCEDURE,

297
00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,184
IN ALL ITS GLORY
AND FOR WHAT IT IS,

298
00:17:35,228 --> 00:17:36,707
THERE ARE NO ARGUMENTS

299
00:17:36,751 --> 00:17:39,884
THAT CAN JUSTIFY THAT.

300
00:17:39,928 --> 00:17:41,147
[ Chimes jingling ]

301
00:17:44,889 --> 00:17:47,588
Woman:
IT WAS A HARD
DECISION TO MAKE.

302
00:17:47,631 --> 00:17:49,285
I'M STILL IN SCHOOL.

303
00:17:51,809 --> 00:17:53,159
I CAN'T...

304
00:17:53,202 --> 00:17:57,206
I... CAN'T HAVE
ANY CHILDREN RIGHT NOW.

305
00:17:57,250 --> 00:18:00,296
Woman:
THE AGE THAT I AM AND...

306
00:18:00,340 --> 00:18:02,081
THE THINGS I STILL
NEED TO DO

307
00:18:02,124 --> 00:18:03,604
BEFORE I CAN ACTUALLY
RAISE A CHILD,

308
00:18:03,647 --> 00:18:06,476
LIKE FINISH COLLEGE

309
00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,958
AND HAVE A GOOD JOB
AND A MARRIAGE...

310
00:18:10,001 --> 00:18:12,134
Woman:
MY FIANCE, AT THE TIME,

311
00:18:12,178 --> 00:18:15,964
LIVED OUT OF TOWN
AND CAME HOME FOR A WEEKEND

312
00:18:16,007 --> 00:18:18,358
AND I WASN'T EXPECTING HIM.

313
00:18:18,401 --> 00:18:21,404
AND WE USED A
CONDOM, BUT...

314
00:18:25,104 --> 00:18:27,280
WASN'T AS FOOL-PROOF
AS WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE.

315
00:18:28,933 --> 00:18:31,327
Woman:
I MEAN, OUR RELATIONSHIP

316
00:18:31,371 --> 00:18:33,242
WASN'T THAT,
YOU KNOW, STRONG.

317
00:18:33,286 --> 00:18:35,940
THERE WASN'T
THAT MUCH OF...

318
00:18:35,984 --> 00:18:39,509
YOU KNOW, TRUST
OR SUPPORT THERE ANYWAY.

319
00:18:39,553 --> 00:18:41,903
AND THEN, LIKE,
TO BRING SOMETHING
LIKE THIS INTO...

320
00:18:41,946 --> 00:18:44,079
INTO OUR
RELATIONSHIP, IT...

321
00:18:44,123 --> 00:18:45,559
IT WOULDN'T HAVE WORKED.

322
00:18:45,602 --> 00:18:47,082
IT... IT WON'T.

323
00:18:47,126 --> 00:18:49,432
Woman:
UH, HE DOESN'T CARE.

324
00:18:49,476 --> 00:18:53,262
SO I DIDN'T
DISCUSS IT WITH HIM.

325
00:18:53,306 --> 00:18:55,830
HE DOESN'T CARE
IF I HAVE THE CHILD

326
00:18:55,873 --> 00:18:58,311
OR IF I ABORT THE CHILD.

327
00:18:58,354 --> 00:19:01,052
Man:
EVERYTHING'S GOING
VERY WELL.

328
00:19:05,187 --> 00:19:06,188
OKAY. VERY GOOD.

329
00:19:06,232 --> 00:19:08,059
WE'VE GOT THEM
IN GOOD POSITION.

330
00:19:08,103 --> 00:19:10,497
AND THIS IS AN
ANTISEPTIC SOLUTION.

331
00:19:10,540 --> 00:19:13,282
AND WE'RE ALL DONE.

332
00:19:13,326 --> 00:19:15,371
OKAY. THIS WILL FEEL
MUCH BETTER NOW,

333
00:19:15,415 --> 00:19:17,068
GET THE SPECULUM OUT.
YEAH, THIS OUGHT
TO HELP A LOT,

334
00:19:17,112 --> 00:19:19,158
WE'LL GET THAT OUT.
IS THAT ANY BETTER?

335
00:19:19,201 --> 00:19:20,985
ALL RIGHT.
JUST STAY RIGHT THERE.

336
00:19:21,029 --> 00:19:22,683
JUST LET ME JUST...
DOCTOR... WIPE
FOR A MINUTE.

337
00:19:22,726 --> 00:19:25,425
OKAY.
WE ARE DONE.

338
00:19:25,468 --> 00:19:26,513
ALL RIGHT.

339
00:19:26,556 --> 00:19:28,819
GOOD SHOW.

340
00:19:28,863 --> 00:19:31,953
WE'LL FIND OUT THAT
HER TOTAL BLOOD LOSS

341
00:19:31,996 --> 00:19:34,434
WAS REALLY QUITE MINIMAL.

342
00:19:34,477 --> 00:19:36,740
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF US

343
00:19:36,784 --> 00:19:40,483
BASICALLY PIECING THE...

344
00:19:40,527 --> 00:19:42,398
THE FETAL TISSUE
BACK TOGETHER

345
00:19:42,442 --> 00:19:45,532
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
HAVE ALL OF THE FRAGMENTS.

346
00:19:45,575 --> 00:19:47,360
OH, THE MEDIA
ATTENTION IS...

347
00:19:47,403 --> 00:19:50,058
IS ALWAYS DIRECTED
FOR THE FETUS AND THE...

348
00:19:50,101 --> 00:19:51,842
THE GORY PARTS,
IF YOU WILL, OF...

349
00:19:51,886 --> 00:19:54,236
OF PROVIDING THE...
THE PROCEDURE.

350
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,020
WHEN THE... WHEN
THE REALLY IMPORTANT THING

351
00:19:56,064 --> 00:19:58,632
IS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE
TO HELP THIS YOUNG LADY

352
00:19:58,675 --> 00:20:01,939
GET ON WITH HER LIFE,
SHE'S PLANNING
TO GO ON TO SCHOOL

353
00:20:01,983 --> 00:20:04,246
AND SHE DOESN'T HAVE
TO TAKE OVER

354
00:20:04,290 --> 00:20:05,421
THE RESPONSIBILITIES
OF PARENTING.

355
00:20:05,465 --> 00:20:07,510
AND HERE, IN JUST
A VERY FEW MINUTES,

356
00:20:07,554 --> 00:20:10,383
WE'RE ABLE TO
FACILITATE HER DECISION

357
00:20:10,426 --> 00:20:13,690
TO NOT BE A PARENT
AT THIS TIME.

358
00:20:13,734 --> 00:20:16,563
MOST OF OUR PATIENTS
ARE IN THE FIRST TRIMESTER

359
00:20:16,606 --> 00:20:20,567
AND ONLY 1% WOULD BE
AT THIS STAGE
IN THE PREGNANCY.

360
00:20:20,610 --> 00:20:22,569
HOW ARE YOU DOING?
ARE YOU FEELING OKAY?

361
00:20:22,612 --> 00:20:24,048
YOU REALLY
DID FINE.

362
00:20:24,092 --> 00:20:26,050
WE COULDN'T HAVE ASKED
FOR YOU TO...

363
00:20:26,094 --> 00:20:27,269
TO BE A
BETTER PATIENT.

364
00:20:27,313 --> 00:20:28,836
YOU... EVERYTHING
WAS THERE

365
00:20:28,879 --> 00:20:30,229
AND YOU WERE
20 MENSTRUAL WEEKS,

366
00:20:30,272 --> 00:20:33,101
JUST LIKE WE HAD
EXPECTED FROM
THE ULTRASOUND.

367
00:20:33,144 --> 00:20:35,059
BUT THE PROCEDURE
REALLY WENT FINE

368
00:20:35,103 --> 00:20:36,365
AND I'M SURE
YOU WILL BE OKAY.

369
00:20:36,409 --> 00:20:38,802
WHEN I HEAR ARGUMENTS

370
00:20:38,846 --> 00:20:42,241
BY INTELLIGENT, ZEALOUS,
WELL-MEANING PEOPLE,

371
00:20:42,284 --> 00:20:44,721
BOTH IN FAVOR OF
A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE

372
00:20:44,765 --> 00:20:46,984
AND AGAINST A WOMAN'S
RIGHT TO CHOOSE,

373
00:20:47,028 --> 00:20:49,813
I ALWAYS THINK OF
THE OLD STORY OF THE RABBI

374
00:20:49,857 --> 00:20:51,467
WHO WAS CONDUCTING COURT
IN EASTERN EUROPE.

375
00:20:51,511 --> 00:20:54,165
AND HE HEARD
THE HUSBAND'S VERSION

376
00:20:54,209 --> 00:20:55,515
OF WHY THE MARRIAGE
WAS TERRIBLE

377
00:20:55,558 --> 00:20:57,038
AND SAID TO THE HUSBAND,

378
00:20:57,081 --> 00:20:58,692
"YOU KNOW, MY SON,
YOU'RE RIGHT."

379
00:20:58,735 --> 00:21:01,303
THEN HE HEARD THE
WIFE'S VERSION AND
HE SAYS TO THE WIFE,

380
00:21:01,347 --> 00:21:02,478
"YOU KNOW, MY DAUGHTER,
YOU'RE RIGHT."

381
00:21:02,522 --> 00:21:03,871
AND THEN THE RABBINICAL
STUDENT SAYS,

382
00:21:03,914 --> 00:21:06,700
"BUT, RABBI,
THEY BOTH CAN'T BE RIGHT."

383
00:21:06,743 --> 00:21:08,876
AND THE RABBI SAID,
"YOU KNOW, MY SON,
YOU'RE RIGHT."

384
00:21:08,919 --> 00:21:10,660
EVERYBODY IS RIGHT

385
00:21:10,704 --> 00:21:13,620
WHEN IT COMES TO
THE ISSUE OF ABORTION.

386
00:21:13,663 --> 00:21:17,058
ONE OF THE MOST
FASCINATING PEOPLE

387
00:21:17,101 --> 00:21:18,799
IN THE ENTIRE
ABORTION DEBATE

388
00:21:18,842 --> 00:21:22,019
IS MY FRIEND AND
COLLEAGUE NAT HENTOFF,

389
00:21:22,063 --> 00:21:25,327
WHO IS A WRITER
AND A CIVIL LIBERTARIAN.

390
00:21:25,371 --> 00:21:28,287
GENERALLY SUPPORTS
THE RIGHT OF WOMEN,

391
00:21:28,330 --> 00:21:29,853
ALWAYS SUPPORTS
THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE,

392
00:21:29,897 --> 00:21:31,377
FOR EXAMPLE, THE
RIGHT TO CHOOSE

393
00:21:31,420 --> 00:21:33,466
TO READ OR WRITE
PORNOGRAPHY.

394
00:21:33,509 --> 00:21:35,337
HE'S AN ATHEIST.
HE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN GOD,

395
00:21:35,381 --> 00:21:38,079
DOESN'T BELIEVE
IN THE SOUL OF A FETUS,

396
00:21:38,122 --> 00:21:40,690
AND YET HE DOES NOT
SUPPORT A WOMAN'S RIGHT
TO CHOOSE ABORTION.

397
00:21:40,734 --> 00:21:45,826
ONCE THE SPERM
AND THE EGG MEET

398
00:21:45,869 --> 00:21:49,395
AND THEY FIND A SORT OF
NESTING PLACE IN THE UTERUS,

399
00:21:49,438 --> 00:21:52,833
YOU NOW HAVE A
DEVELOPING HUMAN BEING.

400
00:21:52,876 --> 00:21:55,662
IT'S NOT A KANGAROO,
IT'S NOT A GIRAFFE.

401
00:21:55,705 --> 00:21:57,316
IT'S A HUMAN BEING.

402
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,666
AND THAT DEVELOPMENT
IN THE WOMB

403
00:21:59,709 --> 00:22:02,277
UNTIL THE PERSON
COMES OUT

404
00:22:02,321 --> 00:22:04,366
IS A CONTINUING PROCESS.

405
00:22:04,410 --> 00:22:07,978
THEREFORE, IF YOU
KILL IT AT ANY STAGE,

406
00:22:08,022 --> 00:22:10,329
FIRST THREE WEEKS,
FIRST THREE MONTHS,

407
00:22:10,372 --> 00:22:13,593
YOU'RE KILLING A
DEVELOPING HUMAN BEING.

408
00:22:13,636 --> 00:22:15,812
IT'S NOT, AS THEY USED
TO SAY ON THE OTHER SIDE,

409
00:22:15,856 --> 00:22:17,771
"JUST A CLUSTER
OF CELLS".

410
00:22:17,814 --> 00:22:20,339
THEY LIKE TO PRETEND
THAT THIS IS NOT HUMAN LIFE.

411
00:22:20,382 --> 00:22:22,166
AND IT'S INTERESTING...

412
00:22:22,210 --> 00:22:25,822
UH, ALAN DERSHOWITZ
MENTIONED TO ME
SOME YEARS AGO,

413
00:22:25,866 --> 00:22:27,433
HIS WIFE WAS PREGNANT

414
00:22:27,476 --> 00:22:31,785
AND HE SAW THE FETUS
IN A SONOGRAM.

415
00:22:31,828 --> 00:22:34,788
AND YOU COULD SEE THE HANDS
MOVING AND THE FEET MOVING.

416
00:22:34,831 --> 00:22:37,747
AND FOR A MOMENT,
HE BEGAN TO WONDER

417
00:22:37,791 --> 00:22:40,359
IF HIS PRO-CHOICE POSITION
WAS REALLY THE ONE TO HOLD,

418
00:22:40,402 --> 00:22:42,230
BUT HE KEPT TO IT.

419
00:22:42,273 --> 00:22:44,014
I'LL NEVER FORGET
THE TIME

420
00:22:44,058 --> 00:22:46,843
WHEN I SAW THE
FIRST PICTURES

421
00:22:46,887 --> 00:22:51,021
OF MY LITTLE DAUGHTER
AND WAS TOLD BY THE...

422
00:22:51,065 --> 00:22:52,719
THE DOCTOR THAT,
YOU KNOW,

423
00:22:52,762 --> 00:22:58,202
SHE WAS KIND OF
REACHING FOR THE
NEEDLE AS THE, UH...

424
00:22:58,246 --> 00:23:00,161
THE INJECTION HAD...
HAD COME IN

425
00:23:00,204 --> 00:23:05,993
BECAUSE SHE WAS BEING GIVEN
AN AMNIOCENTESIS.

426
00:23:06,036 --> 00:23:07,690
FOR ME, THAT WAS
A LIVE HUMAN BEING.

427
00:23:07,734 --> 00:23:14,436
I REGARDED MY CHILD
AS LIVE AND A PERSON,

428
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,091
CERTAINLY FROM
THE THIRD MONTH OR SO.

429
00:23:17,134 --> 00:23:19,572
BUT THAT'S BECAUSE
WE HAD MADE A FIRM DECISION

430
00:23:19,615 --> 00:23:21,487
THAT THIS CHILD WAS
GOING TO BE BROUGHT
INTO THE WORLD.

431
00:23:21,530 --> 00:23:25,665
I DON'T KNOW HOW
I WOULD FEEL ABOUT A
THREE-MONTH-OLD FETUS

432
00:23:25,708 --> 00:23:29,451
WHO THE MOTHER SAID
IS GOING TO BE TERMINATED.

433
00:23:29,495 --> 00:23:32,367
WOULD I THINK OF IT
AS A HUMAN BEING
AT THAT POINT?

434
00:23:32,411 --> 00:23:35,283
UH, THIS... THESE
ARE... THESE ARE THE
HARDEST QUESTIONS.

435
00:23:35,326 --> 00:23:37,677
THESE ARE QUESTIONS
THAT ARE IMPOSSIBLE

436
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,984
OF SOLUTION IN
THE ABSTRACT.

437
00:23:41,028 --> 00:23:42,725
THERE ARE CONFLICTING
VALUES.

438
00:23:42,769 --> 00:23:45,424
AND TAKEN IN ISOLATION,

439
00:23:45,467 --> 00:23:47,469
EACH OF THE VALUES
IS QUITE LEGITIMATE.

440
00:23:47,513 --> 00:23:50,080
SO THE VALUE OF
PRESERVING HUMAN LIFE,

441
00:23:50,124 --> 00:23:52,343
OR FOR THAT MATTER
THE LIFE OF ANY ORGANISM,

442
00:23:52,387 --> 00:23:56,522
UH, THAT... THAT
IS A VALUE THAT
WE SHOULD ACCEPT.

443
00:23:56,565 --> 00:23:59,916
YOU SHOULDN'T JUST GO
ARBITRARILY KILL SOME ANIMAL

444
00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:02,528
BECAUSE IT'S FUN TO KILL IT.

445
00:24:02,571 --> 00:24:05,139
I... THAT'S
A REASONABLE VALUE.

446
00:24:05,182 --> 00:24:08,316
ON THE OTHER HAND,
MOST PEOPLE WILL AGREE
TO SWAT A MOSQUITO.

447
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,491
OKAY, WELL, THAT...

448
00:24:09,535 --> 00:24:13,060
THE IDEA THAT LIFE IS...
SHOULD BE VALUED

449
00:24:13,103 --> 00:24:15,715
HAS COME INTO CONFLICT
WITH ANOTHER VALUE...

450
00:24:15,758 --> 00:24:17,673
AND WE KNOW
WHAT THAT ONE IS.

451
00:24:17,717 --> 00:24:19,632
AND THAT'S COMMONLY
THE CASE.

452
00:24:19,675 --> 00:24:23,462
THE VALUES THAT WE HOLD
ARE NOT ABSOLUTE,

453
00:24:23,505 --> 00:24:25,942
THEY ARE ALWAYS
CONTINGENT.

454
00:24:25,986 --> 00:24:27,901
THEY CONFLICT.

455
00:24:27,944 --> 00:24:31,687
AND LIFE IS MADE UP
OF DECISIONS AND
COMPLICATED SITUATIONS

456
00:24:31,731 --> 00:24:33,950
IN CASES OF
CONFLICTING VALUES.

457
00:24:33,994 --> 00:24:35,996
IF YOU LISTEN TO JUST
ONE IN ISOLATION,

458
00:24:36,039 --> 00:24:37,780
YEAH, IT MAY SOUND
LEGITIMATE AND...

459
00:24:37,824 --> 00:24:40,783
AND MAYBE IS.

460
00:24:40,827 --> 00:24:44,526
BUT YOU HAVE TO ASK
WHAT IT MEANS UNDER
PARTICULAR CONDITIONS.

461
00:24:44,570 --> 00:24:46,267
SO CHOICE IS LEGITIMATE,

462
00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:48,269
PRESERVING LIFE
IS LEGITIMATE,

463
00:24:48,312 --> 00:24:49,705
AND SOMETIMES
THEY RUN INTO CONFLICT.

464
00:24:49,749 --> 00:24:51,490
WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON

465
00:24:51,533 --> 00:24:52,665
WHEN PEOPLE ARGUE
ABOUT ABORTION

466
00:24:52,708 --> 00:24:54,667
ARE VERY DIFFERENT
WORLD VIEWS,

467
00:24:54,710 --> 00:24:57,452
VERY DIFFERENT CONCEPTIONS
OF THE ROLE OF WOMEN,

468
00:24:57,496 --> 00:25:00,411
OF HOW IMPORTANT
MOTHERHOOD IS,

469
00:25:00,455 --> 00:25:02,675
OF WHETHER WOMEN SHOULD BE
OUT IN THE WORLD OF WORK,

470
00:25:02,718 --> 00:25:04,546
OF THE IMPORTANCE
OF SEXUALITY,

471
00:25:04,590 --> 00:25:05,895
OF THE SEPARATION

472
00:25:05,939 --> 00:25:09,420
BETWEEN SEXUAL BEHAVIOR
AND PROCREATION,

473
00:25:09,464 --> 00:25:12,162
AND THAT THIS IS
WHAT REALLY DIVIDES

474
00:25:12,206 --> 00:25:15,775
BOTH WOMEN AND MEN ON
THE ISSUE OF ABORTION.

475
00:25:15,818 --> 00:25:17,690
AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING
THAT'S GOING TO BE RESOLVED

476
00:25:17,733 --> 00:25:19,996
BY ANY KIND OF
PHILOSOPHICAL ARGUMENT.

477
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,435
AND I THINK THAT WOMEN
THAT ALLOW THEMSELVES
TO BE USED BY MEN

478
00:25:24,479 --> 00:25:26,089
AND THEN HAVE TO GO
TO AN ABORTION CLINIC

479
00:25:26,133 --> 00:25:28,483
TO TAKE CARE OF
A FEW MINUTES' PLEASURE

480
00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:30,529
IS ABSOLUTELY INSANE.

481
00:25:30,572 --> 00:25:32,487
I THINK WE NEED
TO GET BACK TO THE BIBLE

482
00:25:32,531 --> 00:25:34,184
AND WE NEED TO BRING
OUR CHILDREN TO GOD.

483
00:25:34,228 --> 00:25:36,099
AND THAT'S WHY
THERE'S SO MUCH MURDER

484
00:25:36,143 --> 00:25:39,755
AND... FREE SEX
IN THIS COUNTRY.

485
00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:41,540
AND WE NEED TO STOP IT.

486
00:25:41,583 --> 00:25:43,933
I BELIEVE THAT
THE WOMAN'S CHOICE

487
00:25:43,977 --> 00:25:45,065
IS NOT TO HAVE SEX WITH...

488
00:25:45,108 --> 00:25:46,849
WITH A PERSON
THAT'S NOT HER HUSBAND

489
00:25:46,893 --> 00:25:48,677
AND TO HAVE SEX
OUT OF WEDLOCK

490
00:25:48,721 --> 00:25:50,679
OR TO MESS AROUND
WITH PEOPLE

491
00:25:50,723 --> 00:25:52,159
BEFORE THEY GET MARRIED.

492
00:25:52,202 --> 00:25:53,595
I JUST THINK IT'S WRONG

493
00:25:53,639 --> 00:25:56,076
AND I JUST THINK THAT WE SHOULD
GO BACK TO THE BIBLE

494
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,906
AND TEACH OUR CHILDREN
RIGHTEOUSNESS.

495
00:25:59,949 --> 00:26:01,734
IF YOU STUDY HISTORY,

496
00:26:01,777 --> 00:26:04,606
YOU GO BACK AND FIND OUT
THAT THIS NATION WAS FOUNDED

497
00:26:04,650 --> 00:26:07,609
UPON MORAL ISSUES
AND RELIGION.

498
00:26:07,653 --> 00:26:11,134
AND WHEN YOU HAVE A LIFE
FORMED INSIDE A HUMAN BEING,

499
00:26:11,178 --> 00:26:13,615
AND IT IS LIFE,
AND YOU TAKE THAT LIFE,

500
00:26:13,659 --> 00:26:16,923
THEN YOU HAD TO PREMEDITATE
THE TAKING OF THAT LIFE.

501
00:26:16,966 --> 00:26:20,013
SO, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED,
MY FEELINGS ON ABORTION

502
00:26:20,056 --> 00:26:23,843
IS THAT IT IS
FIRST DEGREE MURDER.

503
00:26:23,886 --> 00:26:25,409
YOU KNOW, I JUST PRAY

504
00:26:25,453 --> 00:26:28,935
THAT WE WILL COME TO
OUR SENSES AS A NATION,

505
00:26:28,978 --> 00:26:30,501
THAT WE WILL GO BACK
AND LISTEN

506
00:26:30,545 --> 00:26:32,852
AND STUDY THE HISTORY
OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS

507
00:26:32,895 --> 00:26:35,550
AND SEE WHAT THIS COUNTRY
WAS REALLY BASED UPON

508
00:26:35,594 --> 00:26:37,465
AND WHAT IT WAS
FOUNDED UPON.

509
00:26:37,508 --> 00:26:39,989
BUT HERE IN AMERICA,
THE LAND OF THE FREE

510
00:26:40,033 --> 00:26:42,383
AND SUPPOSEDLY THE LAND
THAT BELIEVES IN GOD,

511
00:26:42,426 --> 00:26:44,080
WE HAVE A HOLOCAUST
OF OUR OWN,

512
00:26:44,124 --> 00:26:45,908
AND BLOOD
IS ON OUR HANDS

513
00:26:45,952 --> 00:26:49,695
MUCH MORE THAN IT EVER WAS
ON THE NAZI REGIME.

514
00:26:49,738 --> 00:26:50,652
THANK YOU.

515
00:26:52,393 --> 00:26:54,047
[ Organ ♪♪♪ ]

516
00:27:11,455 --> 00:27:13,588
WHEN THE SUPREME COURT
DECLARED ABORTION

517
00:27:13,632 --> 00:27:16,939
TO BE A CONSTITUTIONAL
RIGHT IN 1973,

518
00:27:16,983 --> 00:27:20,290
THE BISHOPS BECAME EXTREMELY
POLITICALLY ACTIVE.

519
00:27:20,334 --> 00:27:23,642
SO MUCH SO THAT BY 1974,

520
00:27:23,685 --> 00:27:25,208
THEY HAD DEVELOPED
SOMETHING CALLED

521
00:27:25,252 --> 00:27:28,298
THE PASTORAL PLAN
FOR PRO-LIFE ACTIVITIES,

522
00:27:28,342 --> 00:27:31,780
IN WHICH THEY ATTEMPTED
TO ORGANIZE CATHOLICS,

523
00:27:31,824 --> 00:27:34,957
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT BY
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT,

524
00:27:35,001 --> 00:27:37,743
TO WORK AGAINST ABORTION,

525
00:27:37,786 --> 00:27:40,789
TO WORK TO OVERTURN
ROE v. WADE

526
00:27:40,833 --> 00:27:43,052
AND MAKE ABORTION ILLEGAL.

527
00:27:43,096 --> 00:27:47,100
YOU HAD PRO-LIFE
COMMITTEES CROPPING UP

528
00:27:47,143 --> 00:27:50,233
IN EVERY PARISH
ACROSS THE COUNTRY,

529
00:27:50,277 --> 00:27:52,801
AND YOU HAD A
CONTINUING BARRAGE

530
00:27:52,845 --> 00:27:57,327
OF BOTH POLITICAL
CAMPAIGNING BY THE BISHOPS

531
00:27:57,371 --> 00:28:00,722
AS WELL AS THE
ORGANIZATION OF ORDINARY
CATHOLIC PEOPLE.

532
00:28:00,766 --> 00:28:03,638
IT'S THE CATHOLIC
BISHOPS THAT STARTED

533
00:28:03,682 --> 00:28:05,684
AND INITIALLY FINANCED

534
00:28:05,727 --> 00:28:08,774
THE FIRST PRO-LIFE,
ANTI-ABORTION
ORGANIZATIONS

535
00:28:08,817 --> 00:28:10,601
IN THE UNITED STATES.

536
00:28:10,645 --> 00:28:15,737
OUR GOAL MUST BE TO SHINE
THE LIGHT OF CHRIST

537
00:28:15,781 --> 00:28:19,523
INTO THE HEART
OF OUR NATION.

538
00:28:19,567 --> 00:28:23,527
WE MUST THEREFORE,
FIRST AND FOREMOST,

539
00:28:23,571 --> 00:28:30,360
DEVELOP A WILLINGNESS
TO SPEAK OUT IN DEFENSE
OF ALL HUMAN LIFE,

540
00:28:30,404 --> 00:28:37,150
EVEN IN THE MOST
ORDINARY OF CIRCUMSTANCES
OF DAILY LIFE.

541
00:28:37,193 --> 00:28:42,459
PARISHES MUST ENGAGE
THEMSELVES IN
CONCERTED ACTION

542
00:28:42,503 --> 00:28:45,898
THROUGH NETWORKS
WHICH PROMOTE CHANGE

543
00:28:45,941 --> 00:28:50,250
IN PUBLIC SOCIAL POLICY
AND LEGAL RIGHTS

544
00:28:50,293 --> 00:28:53,949
TO PROTECT ALL
CREATED HUMAN LIFE

545
00:28:53,993 --> 00:28:58,214
FROM THE MOMENT OF
CONCEPTION THROUGH
NATURAL DEATH.

546
00:28:58,258 --> 00:29:01,957
WE ARE WARNED BY CHRIST'S
MAXIM IN THE GOSPEL

547
00:29:02,001 --> 00:29:06,005
THAT THOSE WHO
LIVE BY VIOLENCE

548
00:29:06,048 --> 00:29:08,485
WILL PERISH BY IT.

549
00:29:08,529 --> 00:29:11,401
IF YOU ARE HEARING EVERY
SUNDAY IN CHURCH

550
00:29:11,445 --> 00:29:13,316
THAT ABORTION IS MURDER,

551
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,755
IF YOU ARE HEARING
EVERY SUN... IF YOU
ARE HEARING REGULARLY

552
00:29:16,798 --> 00:29:19,845
THAT THE... THE MOST
DANGEROUS ENVIRONMENT

553
00:29:19,888 --> 00:29:23,631
IN THE WORLD
IS WOMEN'S WOMBS,

554
00:29:23,674 --> 00:29:27,243
IF YOU ARE HEARING THAT
WOMEN ARE HAVING ABORTIONS
FOR CONVENIENCE,

555
00:29:27,287 --> 00:29:30,072
IF YOU ARE HEARING
THAT WOMEN ARE SELFISH

556
00:29:30,116 --> 00:29:31,813
IN THEIR DECISIONS
TO HAVE ABORTIONS,

557
00:29:31,857 --> 00:29:34,773
IF YOU... IF DOCTORS
WHO PERFORM ABORTIONS

558
00:29:34,816 --> 00:29:38,124
ARE CONSTANTLY CALLED
ABORTIONISTS,

559
00:29:38,167 --> 00:29:40,953
IF THE PROVISION OF
ABORTION SERVICES

560
00:29:40,996 --> 00:29:44,260
IS CONSTANTLY
REFERRED TO AS THE
ABORTION INDUSTRY,

561
00:29:44,304 --> 00:29:46,306
IF YOU ARE
CONSTANTLY TOLD

562
00:29:46,349 --> 00:29:49,178
THAT DOCTORS DO ABORTIONS
SIMPLY TO MAKE MONEY,

563
00:29:49,222 --> 00:29:53,443
ALL OF THESE THINGS
DULL ONE'S MORAL SENSIBILITY,

564
00:29:53,487 --> 00:29:55,837
AND IN AN UNSTABLE
PERSON, I THINK,

565
00:29:55,881 --> 00:29:59,536
GIVES THEM THE KIND
OF JUSTIFICATION
THAT THEY NEED TO...

566
00:29:59,580 --> 00:30:02,365
TO EVEN GO SO FAR
AS TO MURDER DOCTORS.

567
00:30:02,409 --> 00:30:04,454
THE LAST THREE PHYSICIANS
I HAVE WORKED FOR

568
00:30:04,498 --> 00:30:06,195
HAVE ALL BEEN MURDERED.

569
00:30:06,239 --> 00:30:08,894
I WAS THERE THE DAY
THAT DR. GUNN WAS
MURDERED AT THE CLINIC

570
00:30:08,937 --> 00:30:12,245
AT THE LADIES CENTER.
THAT WAS IN MARCH OF '93.

571
00:30:12,288 --> 00:30:13,899
Reporter:
IN PENSACOLA, FLORIDA,

572
00:30:13,942 --> 00:30:16,031
POLICE HAVE ARRESTED AN
ANTI-ABORTION DEMONSTRATOR

573
00:30:16,075 --> 00:30:20,427
FOR THE SHOOTING
OF A DOCTOR OUTSIDE
AN ABORTION CLINIC.

574
00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:22,429
POLICE SAID
MICHAEL FREDERICK GRIFFIN

575
00:30:22,472 --> 00:30:25,301
APPROACHED DR. DAVID GUNN
AS HE WAS ENTERING
HIS CLINIC

576
00:30:25,345 --> 00:30:27,216
AND SHOUTED, "DON'T
KILL ANY MORE BABIES."

577
00:30:27,260 --> 00:30:30,002
HE THEN SHOT DR. GUNN
THREE TIMES IN THE BACK

578
00:30:30,045 --> 00:30:32,569
WITH A .38 CALIBER REVOLVER.

579
00:30:32,613 --> 00:30:35,224
HE THEN SURRENDERED
TO THE AUTHORITIES.

580
00:30:35,268 --> 00:30:37,052
GRIFFIN WAS TAKING PART
IN A DEMONSTRATION

581
00:30:37,096 --> 00:30:40,229
SPONSORED BY DON TRESHMAN
OF RESCUE AMERICA,

582
00:30:40,273 --> 00:30:43,058
A HOUSTON-BASED
ANTI-ABORTION ORGANIZATION.

583
00:30:45,974 --> 00:30:48,629
MICHAEL GRIFFIN WALKED UP
TO HIM IN THE PARKING LOT

584
00:30:48,672 --> 00:30:51,110
AND SHOT HIM IN THE BACK.

585
00:30:51,153 --> 00:30:53,808
MICHAEL WAS RAISED
IN FIRST METHODIST CHURCH,

586
00:30:53,852 --> 00:30:56,680
DOWNTOWN PENSACOLA.

587
00:30:56,724 --> 00:30:58,465
BUT THEN HE MARRIED
A WOMAN WHO...

588
00:30:58,508 --> 00:31:02,730
SHE AND HER FAMILY
WERE MEMBERS OF THE
ASSEMBLY OF GOD,

589
00:31:02,773 --> 00:31:06,821
AND SO HE CONVERTED
OVER TO THAT.

590
00:31:06,865 --> 00:31:09,389
SO HE CAME OUT OF
THE WOODWORK IN PENSACOLA.

591
00:31:09,432 --> 00:31:12,479
THE CASE THE DEFENSE
IS MAKING, THEY SEEM
TO BE SAYING THAT...

592
00:31:12,522 --> 00:31:14,655
MICHAEL GRIFFIN WAS
REALLY NOT THE MAN
WHO PULLED THE TRIGGER.

593
00:31:14,698 --> 00:31:16,787
THE DEFENSE IS TRYING
TO POINT TO ANOTHER MAN

594
00:31:16,831 --> 00:31:19,181
NAMED DONALD GRATTON,
WHO'S A...

595
00:31:19,225 --> 00:31:22,054
A VERY ACTIVE
ANTI-ABORTION MINISTER,

596
00:31:22,097 --> 00:31:24,230
AND WHO'S ALSO
ASSOCIATED WITH A MAN

597
00:31:24,273 --> 00:31:26,101
WHO'S BEEN VERY CRITICAL
IN ALL OF THIS,

598
00:31:26,145 --> 00:31:29,322
JOHN BURT, ANOTHER
ANTI-ABORTION MINISTER.

599
00:31:29,365 --> 00:31:30,976
BUT THE DEFENSE IS TRYING
TO SAY THAT THE WHOLE THING

600
00:31:31,019 --> 00:31:32,760
WAS MORE OR LESS
MASTERMINDED BY JOHN BURT.

601
00:31:32,803 --> 00:31:34,327
WE SHOULD SEE THOSE
TWO INDIVIDUALS

602
00:31:34,370 --> 00:31:35,676
ON THE STAND TOMORROW,
PROBABLY.

603
00:31:35,719 --> 00:31:40,594
JOHN BURT IS A
LOCAL LAY MINISTER

604
00:31:40,637 --> 00:31:42,944
OF THE ASSEMBLY OF GOD.

605
00:31:42,988 --> 00:31:46,121
HE IS A FORMER
SERVICEMAN,

606
00:31:46,165 --> 00:31:48,689
FORMER KU KLUX KLAN MEMBER.

607
00:31:48,732 --> 00:31:52,562
HAD BEEN IN JACKSONVILLE
IN THE MILITARY

608
00:31:52,606 --> 00:31:55,739
WHERE HE JOINED
THE KU KLUX KLAN.

609
00:31:55,783 --> 00:31:58,917
HE BECAME A DOPE ADDICT
AND AN ALCOHOLIC,

610
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,396
LITTLE BIT OF
EVERYTHING ELSE

611
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,789
UNTIL HE FOUND JESUS.

612
00:32:01,832 --> 00:32:04,226
WE WENT OUT THERE
ON A MONDAY OR TUESDAY,

613
00:32:04,270 --> 00:32:06,533
I'M NOT SURE
WHAT DAY IT WAS NOW,

614
00:32:06,576 --> 00:32:09,405
AND WERE PICKETING
THE PLACE

615
00:32:09,449 --> 00:32:10,972
WHEN SOMEBODY SAID
THEY HEARD SOME SHOTS.

616
00:32:11,016 --> 00:32:13,235
AND THEN THEY
RAN AROUND BACK

617
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:14,845
AND COMING BACK
AROUND FRONT SAID,

618
00:32:14,889 --> 00:32:17,848
"DAVID'S LAYING
ON THE GROUND AND
HE'S PUMPING BLOOD."

619
00:32:17,892 --> 00:32:19,154
AND DURING THAT TIME,

620
00:32:19,198 --> 00:32:21,591
MICHAEL HAD COME BACK
AROUND FRONT,

621
00:32:21,635 --> 00:32:24,725
TURNED HIMSELF OVER TO A
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

622
00:32:24,768 --> 00:32:29,295
I THINK BURT
NEEDS TO PRACTICE
MORE PEACE.

623
00:32:29,338 --> 00:32:31,688
HE DOESN'T NEED
TO TEACH HATE,

624
00:32:31,732 --> 00:32:33,560
AND THAT'S WHAT
HE'S DOING. I
DON'T KNOW THAT...

625
00:32:33,603 --> 00:32:36,128
HE SAYS HE'S
PRACTICING OR
TEACHING LOVE

626
00:32:36,171 --> 00:32:38,782
AND CHRISTIAN
AND ALL THIS,
BUT HE IS...

627
00:32:38,826 --> 00:32:41,307
HE'S JUST STIRRING UP
HATE AND VIOLENCE.

628
00:32:41,350 --> 00:32:43,787
I FEEL BURT IS...
I... I HOLD HIM
RESPONSIBLE

629
00:32:43,831 --> 00:32:45,006
FOR DR. GUNN'S
MURDER.

630
00:32:45,050 --> 00:32:47,008
HE MAY NOT
HAVE PULLED
THAT TRIGGER,

631
00:32:47,052 --> 00:32:48,923
BUT HE WAS JUST AS
RESPONSIBLE FOR
MICHAEL GRIFFIN

632
00:32:48,967 --> 00:32:50,925
BECAUSE HE... LIKE
HE SAID, HE GOT...

633
00:32:50,969 --> 00:32:52,709
GOT A WEAK MIND.
HE PUMPED HIM UP.

634
00:32:52,753 --> 00:32:54,450
HE PUMPED HIM UP
FOR IT.
I REALLY DO.

635
00:32:54,494 --> 00:32:57,888
BURT...

636
00:32:57,932 --> 00:33:00,065
I THINK HE'S A...

637
00:33:00,108 --> 00:33:03,024
A MAN OF CONTRADICTIONS
IN MANY WAYS AND...

638
00:33:03,068 --> 00:33:04,373
AND YET I DON'T
THINK HE IS.

639
00:33:04,417 --> 00:33:07,420
HE'S A PRETTY SIMPLE
PERSON TO UNDERSTAND.

640
00:33:07,463 --> 00:33:09,117
HE DOES NOT LIKE CHILDREN,

641
00:33:09,161 --> 00:33:11,119
YET HE DEDICATES
HIS EFFORTS TOWARD THEM.

642
00:33:11,163 --> 00:33:13,948
I DON'T THINK HE REALLY
LIKES WOMEN...

643
00:33:13,992 --> 00:33:15,906
AND YET HE USES THEM TO...

644
00:33:15,950 --> 00:33:18,518
TO MAKE A LIVING OFF THEM.

645
00:33:18,561 --> 00:33:21,042
[ Cough ]
HE...

646
00:33:21,086 --> 00:33:22,739
SUPPOSEDLY IS
UNDERSTANDING,

647
00:33:22,783 --> 00:33:25,394
BUT YET HE'S EXTREMELY
CONTROLLING.

648
00:33:25,438 --> 00:33:29,050
HIS OWN DAUGHTER HAS SAID
SHE LIKED HIM BETTER

649
00:33:29,094 --> 00:33:30,878
WHEN HE WAS A DRUNK
AND AN ADDICT.

650
00:33:30,921 --> 00:33:32,619
WE RUN A.... A MINISTRY

651
00:33:32,662 --> 00:33:35,100
FOR WOMEN AND CHILDREN
IN CRISIS,

652
00:33:35,143 --> 00:33:37,102
WHETHER IT BE
UNWED MOTHERS,

653
00:33:37,145 --> 00:33:40,670
BATTERED WIVES,
HOMELESS PEOPLE,

654
00:33:40,714 --> 00:33:45,066
ANY KIND OF CRISIS SITUATION
A WOMAN COULD BE IN.

655
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:47,982
WE ASK FOR AT LEAST
A SIX-MONTH COMMITMENT.

656
00:33:48,026 --> 00:33:50,463
AFTER THAT TIME,
IF THEY WANT TO TRY
TO GO TO SCHOOL,

657
00:33:50,506 --> 00:33:52,682
WE'LL TRY TO
GET GRANTS FOR THEM

658
00:33:52,726 --> 00:33:54,945
OR HELP THEM GO
THROUGH VOC...

659
00:33:54,989 --> 00:33:57,774
VOC-TECH SCHOOL
OR FIND HOUSING.

660
00:33:57,818 --> 00:34:00,038
AND THEY CAN STAY
WITH US WHILE THEY GO
TO SCHOOL IS THEY WANT.

661
00:34:00,081 --> 00:34:01,996
WHEN YOU COME TO
A PLACE LIKE THIS

662
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,389
WHERE THEY SHOW
YOU THAT...

663
00:34:03,432 --> 00:34:05,434
BUT THEY SHOW YOU
THROUGH... IN THE BIBLE

664
00:34:05,478 --> 00:34:08,350
WHERE IT SHOWS YOU
THIS IS THE WAY IT WAS.

665
00:34:08,394 --> 00:34:10,918
WHEN YOU SEE A LOT OF
HOMOSEXUALS AND LESBIANS,

666
00:34:10,961 --> 00:34:13,877
YOU SEE THAT GOD DOESN'T
LIKE IT TO BEGIN WITH,

667
00:34:13,921 --> 00:34:15,096
NO MATTER
WHAT THEY TELL YOU.

668
00:34:15,140 --> 00:34:16,663
LOOK WHAT HE DID
IN SODOM AND GOMORRAH.

669
00:34:16,706 --> 00:34:18,969
YOU KNOW, IF HE DID IT
WAY BACK THEN,

670
00:34:19,013 --> 00:34:21,059
WHAT'S HE GOING
TO DO NOW?

671
00:34:21,102 --> 00:34:23,104
SO IT CAN'T BE A
PEACEFUL WORLD THAT
WE'RE COMING TO.

672
00:34:23,148 --> 00:34:24,062
IT'S GOING TO BE WORSE.

673
00:34:28,196 --> 00:34:30,764
Burt: [ On video ]
IF THIS WAS A
CHRISTIAN COUNTRY,

674
00:34:30,807 --> 00:34:34,115
DAVID GUNN WOULD BE
GUILTY OF MURDER

675
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:39,120
AND HE WOULD STAND
TRIAL BEFORE A
JURY OF HIS PEERS

676
00:34:39,164 --> 00:34:41,383
AND BE EXECUTED
FOR KILLING THE CHILDREN.

677
00:34:44,212 --> 00:34:45,866
Prosecutor:
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANTED,

678
00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:48,390
WAS FOR DR. GUNN
TO BE KILLED.

679
00:34:48,434 --> 00:34:51,263
NO, SIR. THAT'S WHAT
WOULD HAPPEN IF WE WERE
A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY.

680
00:34:51,306 --> 00:34:52,786
Prosecutor:
I SEE.

681
00:34:52,829 --> 00:34:54,875
AND YOU DON'T
FEEL THAT WE'RE A
CHRISTIAN COUNTRY?

682
00:34:54,918 --> 00:34:56,355
NO, SIR.
NOT WITH THE...

683
00:34:56,398 --> 00:34:58,270
PEOPLE WE GOT
IN OFFICE NOWADAYS.

684
00:34:58,313 --> 00:34:59,749
THIS COULDN'T BE
A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY.

685
00:34:59,793 --> 00:35:01,142
Viewers:
[ Chuckling ]

686
00:35:01,186 --> 00:35:02,665
Prosecutor:
YOU BELIEVE THAT...

687
00:35:02,709 --> 00:35:05,581
YOU THINK THAT HARMING
ANOTHER PERSON IS OKAY

688
00:35:05,625 --> 00:35:07,061
TO STOP ABORTION?

689
00:35:07,105 --> 00:35:09,150
IF THAT'S WHAT GOD'S
SPOKEN TO SOMEONE.

690
00:35:09,194 --> 00:35:11,631
Prosecutor:
IF THAT IS THE WORD

691
00:35:11,674 --> 00:35:13,589
THAT GOD HAS SPOKEN
TO SOMEONE.

692
00:35:13,633 --> 00:35:14,982
YES, SIR.

693
00:35:15,025 --> 00:35:17,680
Prosecutor:
AND HAVE YOU
EVER HELPED GOD

694
00:35:17,724 --> 00:35:19,943
SPEAK TO ANYONE?

695
00:35:19,987 --> 00:35:21,380
[ Laughter ]
NO, I'M NOT GOD.

696
00:35:21,423 --> 00:35:24,383
I'M JUST FLESH AND BLOOD.

697
00:35:24,426 --> 00:35:26,863
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE
TO THE FLAG OF THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

698
00:35:26,907 --> 00:35:30,040
I... I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH
LONGER, AS CHRISTIANS,

699
00:35:30,084 --> 00:35:32,304
WE CAN EVEN PLEDGE
ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG

700
00:35:32,347 --> 00:35:34,915
BECAUSE THAT FLAG
JUST FLIES OVER PLACES

701
00:35:34,958 --> 00:35:36,743
LIKE THE PRISONS
WHERE OUR PATRIOTS
ARE LOCKED UP,

702
00:35:36,786 --> 00:35:41,443
AND OVER THE ABORTION
CLINICS WHERE OUR
BABIES ARE KILLED.

703
00:35:41,487 --> 00:35:43,837
POLITICS AND RELIGION
IN THE UNITED STATES

704
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,317
DON'T MIX AT ALL ANYMORE.

705
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:46,840
THEY TELL YOU
WHAT YOU CAN PRAY,

706
00:35:46,883 --> 00:35:50,322
WHEN YOU CAN PRAY,
WHERE YOU CAN PRAY.

707
00:35:50,365 --> 00:35:52,541
IT'S JUST A... IT'S
JUST A SORRY SITUATION

708
00:35:52,585 --> 00:35:53,847
IN THIS COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.

709
00:35:55,196 --> 00:35:57,590
I REMEMBER GIVING MY...

710
00:35:57,633 --> 00:35:59,374
AND THAT WAS
A LONG TIME AGO...

711
00:35:59,418 --> 00:36:03,509
I SENT TWO VIDEOS,
TWO BOOKS, COULD
HAVE BEEN MORE...

712
00:36:03,552 --> 00:36:04,553
Burt:
THE PROSECUTION
TRIED TO SAY

713
00:36:04,597 --> 00:36:06,120
WE BRAINWASHED MICHAEL.

714
00:36:06,164 --> 00:36:09,167
THEY SAID THAT WE
ENCOURAGED HIM TO
DO THE SHOOTING,

715
00:36:09,210 --> 00:36:10,951
BUT I BELIEVE
IF YOU'RE PRO-LIFE,

716
00:36:10,994 --> 00:36:13,649
YOU'RE FOR ALL LIFE,
WHETHER IT'S BORN OR UNBORN.

717
00:36:13,693 --> 00:36:16,826
WE SHOWED MICHAEL GRIFFIN
AND HIS FAMILY

718
00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:18,480
TWO TAPES WHEN
THEY WERE OVER HERE.

719
00:36:18,524 --> 00:36:20,221
ONE WAS CALLED
"THE HARD TRUTH"

720
00:36:20,265 --> 00:36:22,745
AND ONE WAS CALLED
"WHO WILL CRY FOR ME?"

721
00:36:22,789 --> 00:36:25,705
THEY WERE VERY GRAPHIC
ABORTION TAPES...

722
00:36:25,748 --> 00:36:28,403
THAT HAVE BEEN SHOWN
ALL OVER THE COUNTRY

723
00:36:28,447 --> 00:36:30,231
TO THOUSANDS AND
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.

724
00:36:30,275 --> 00:36:32,277
I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAD
AN EFFECT ON HIM,

725
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,627
BUT I KNOW IT HADN'T
HAD AN EFFECT ON
MANY OTHER PEOPLE,

726
00:36:34,670 --> 00:36:36,411
NOT TO THE EXTREME
IT DID ON HIM

727
00:36:36,455 --> 00:36:37,847
WHERE THEY WANT TO GO OUT
AND KILL SOMEBODY.

728
00:36:43,026 --> 00:36:47,988
[ ♪♪♪ ]

729
00:36:48,031 --> 00:36:50,251
SOME MIGHT ASK
WHY A VIDEO OF THIS SORT

730
00:36:50,295 --> 00:36:51,731
SHOULD EVEN BE NECESSARY.

731
00:36:51,774 --> 00:36:54,734
THE ANSWER CAN BE FOUND
IN THE GRUESOME FILMS

732
00:36:54,777 --> 00:36:58,346
USED TO TEACH ABOUT
THE NAZI HOLOCAUST
AGAINST THE JEWS.

733
00:36:58,390 --> 00:37:01,306
TEACHERS DON'T SHOW
BLOODY WORLD WAR II FOOTAGE

734
00:37:01,349 --> 00:37:03,525
TO MANIPULATE STUDENTS
EMOTIONALLY,

735
00:37:03,569 --> 00:37:06,049
THEY USE IT BECAUSE
THE NAZI DEATH CAMPS

736
00:37:06,093 --> 00:37:08,226
REPRESENTED AN EVIL
SO INEXPRESSIBLE

737
00:37:08,269 --> 00:37:09,531
THAT LECTURES ALONE

738
00:37:09,575 --> 00:37:11,577
COULD NEVER
ADEQUATELY DESCRIBE IT.

739
00:37:11,620 --> 00:37:14,449
THE ABORTION HOLOCAUST
IS NO DIFFERENT.

740
00:37:14,493 --> 00:37:18,323
EVERYONE INSTINCTIVELY
KNOWS THAT ABORTION IS EVIL,

741
00:37:18,366 --> 00:37:20,150
BUT MANY MISTAKENLY BELIEVE

742
00:37:20,194 --> 00:37:22,414
IT'S OFTEN THE LESSER
OF TWO EVILS.

743
00:37:22,457 --> 00:37:25,286
UNTIL YOU'VE SEEN THE PICTURES
WE'RE ABOUT TO SHOW YOU,

744
00:37:25,330 --> 00:37:28,985
YOU CAN'T BEGIN TO KNOW
HOW EVIL IT ACTUALLY IS.

745
00:37:29,029 --> 00:37:30,944
♪ A CURSE ON HIM

746
00:37:30,987 --> 00:37:33,642
♪ WHO WOULD DENY

747
00:37:33,686 --> 00:37:40,867
♪ GOD'S IMAGE IN MANKIND

748
00:37:40,910 --> 00:37:44,871
♪ TORN FROM OUT
THEIR MOTHER'S WOMB ♪

749
00:37:44,914 --> 00:37:49,223
♪ DENIED THE SKY,
DENIED A TOMB ♪

750
00:37:49,267 --> 00:37:54,054
♪ CONCEIVED IN LUST
TO THEIR OWN RUIN ♪

751
00:37:54,097 --> 00:38:00,843
♪ A SACRIFICE TO PLEASURE

752
00:38:00,887 --> 00:38:05,587
♪ A CURSE, A CURSE
THEIR BLOOD CRIES OUT ♪

753
00:38:05,631 --> 00:38:10,200
♪ A CURSE, A CURSE
THE HEAVENS SHOUT ♪

754
00:38:10,244 --> 00:38:14,683
♪ A CURSE ON HIM
WHO DARES TO FLOUT ♪

755
00:38:14,727 --> 00:38:16,294
♪ GOD'S IMAGE...

756
00:38:16,337 --> 00:38:18,557
Prosecutor:
AND YOU USE THOSE

757
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:23,301
TO HELP CONVERT
PEOPLE TO YOUR
POSITION.

758
00:38:25,172 --> 00:38:26,260
TO SHOW THEM THE TRUTH

759
00:38:26,304 --> 00:38:27,566
OF WHAT'S GOING ON
IN THE CLINIC

760
00:38:27,609 --> 00:38:29,263
AND HOPEFULLY
THEY'LL REALIZE

761
00:38:29,307 --> 00:38:31,309
THAT THEY'RE KILLING
CHILDREN IN THERE, YES.

762
00:38:31,352 --> 00:38:33,920
Prosecutor:
IN RESPONSE
TO A QUESTION

763
00:38:33,963 --> 00:38:36,401
ABOUT YOUR
RESPONSIBILITY,

764
00:38:36,444 --> 00:38:39,360
YOUR INVOLVEMENT
IN THIS SHOOTING
INCIDENT OF DAVID GUNN,

765
00:38:39,404 --> 00:38:42,450
IF YOU MADE THE
FOLLOWING STATEMENT:

766
00:38:42,494 --> 00:38:45,323
"IF I AM A GENERAL
WITH TROOPS UNDER ME

767
00:38:45,366 --> 00:38:48,413
AND I GIVE THEM
A GAME PLAN AND
SEND THEM OUT,

768
00:38:48,456 --> 00:38:49,936
I CAN'T BE
RESPONSIBLE

769
00:38:49,979 --> 00:38:52,199
FOR EVERY SOLDIER
IN THAT ARMY."

770
00:38:52,242 --> 00:38:53,766
DID YOU SAY THAT?
YES, SIR.

771
00:38:53,809 --> 00:38:56,508
NO FURTHER
QUESTIONS.

772
00:38:56,551 --> 00:38:58,814
THE ANTI-ABORTIONISTS
ARE STRONGLY
FUNDAMENTALISTS,

773
00:38:58,858 --> 00:39:00,773
ALMOST UNIVERSALLY,

774
00:39:00,816 --> 00:39:02,557
AND WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT CATHOLICS,

775
00:39:02,601 --> 00:39:05,473
MORMONS OR PROTESTANTS,
THEY'RE... THEY'RE KIND...

776
00:39:05,517 --> 00:39:06,953
ONE KIND OF FUNDAMENTALIST
OR THE OTHER.

777
00:39:06,996 --> 00:39:11,261
THOSE WHO FAVOR CHOICE
TEND TO BE NON-RELIGIOUS.

778
00:39:11,305 --> 00:39:13,002
AND A WHOLE LOT OF THEM,

779
00:39:13,046 --> 00:39:16,136
THE ACTIVISTS, THE ESCORTS
AT CLINICS AND SO FORTH,

780
00:39:16,179 --> 00:39:18,660
ARE PAGANS,
OVERTLY PAGAN.

781
00:39:18,704 --> 00:39:21,446
AND SO, WE... WE HAVE
A RELIGIOUS WAR,

782
00:39:21,489 --> 00:39:22,838
IN A SENSE,
GOING ON HERE.

783
00:39:28,366 --> 00:39:30,019
[ Hushed chatter ]

784
00:39:32,587 --> 00:39:34,546
HOPEFULLY, MICHAEL GRIFFIN
WILL GET...

785
00:39:34,589 --> 00:39:36,765
THE JURY WILL GIVE HIM
A MEDAL, I HOPE.

786
00:39:43,206 --> 00:39:44,643
Reiter:
I WAS JUST TALKING WITH...

787
00:39:44,686 --> 00:39:46,645
WITH ANDREW CABOT AGAIN

788
00:39:46,688 --> 00:39:49,038
AND WITH...
THE WOMAN DOWN THERE,

789
00:39:49,082 --> 00:39:50,518
WHAT'S HER NAME?
SLIPPED MY MIND...

790
00:39:50,562 --> 00:39:52,999
BRAY, DONNA BRAY.
AND SHE'S SAYING...

791
00:39:53,042 --> 00:39:54,783
SHE'S SAYING, "COME DOWN
AND VISIT ME ANY TIME

792
00:39:54,827 --> 00:39:57,046
AND I'LL SHOW YOU AROUND."
AND SO THEY'VE GIVEN ME

793
00:39:57,090 --> 00:39:58,352
A LOT OF HOSPITALITY,
WHICH IS NICE.

794
00:39:58,396 --> 00:40:00,572
Man:
WOULD YOU MIND IF HE JOINS US?

795
00:40:00,615 --> 00:40:02,225
NOT AT ALL.
THAT'D BE FINE.

796
00:40:02,269 --> 00:40:04,097
Reiter:
I NOTICE YOU'RE NOT
ON THIS LIST.

797
00:40:04,140 --> 00:40:05,490
I THINK THEY SHOULD
EXECUTE BLASPHEMERS.

798
00:40:07,579 --> 00:40:08,449
Reiter:
YOU THINK THEY
SHOULD EXECUTE...?

799
00:40:08,493 --> 00:40:10,625
BLASPHEMERS, YES.

800
00:40:10,669 --> 00:40:11,844
YES. THE BIBLE
TEACHES THAT.

801
00:40:11,887 --> 00:40:13,846
Reiter:
NOW, TO BLASPHEME IS TO...

802
00:40:13,889 --> 00:40:15,238
FOR INSTANCE,
IF YOU SAY...

803
00:40:15,282 --> 00:40:18,633
IF A PERSON WERE TO SAY,
"GODDAMMIT",

804
00:40:18,677 --> 00:40:20,809
IS THAT BLASPHEMY?

805
00:40:20,853 --> 00:40:24,291
PAUL, IS TAKING...
IS... IS...

806
00:40:24,334 --> 00:40:26,989
USING THE LORD'S
NAME IN VAIN, THAT'S
NOT BLASPHEMY.

807
00:40:27,033 --> 00:40:29,383
Reiter:
IF YOU SAY, "GODDAMMIT",

808
00:40:29,427 --> 00:40:31,254
IF SOMEONE SAYS THAT,
ARE THEY BLASPHEMING?

809
00:40:31,298 --> 00:40:33,169
IT MIGHT BE, YES.
UH, YES, YES.

810
00:40:33,213 --> 00:40:34,736
Reiter:
AND THAT PERSON
SHOULD BE EXECUTED?

811
00:40:34,780 --> 00:40:36,042
Cabot:
I THINK SO, YES.

812
00:40:36,085 --> 00:40:37,347
Reiter:
OKAY, SO YOU GO OUT

813
00:40:37,391 --> 00:40:38,697
TO THE BALL PARK WITH
YOUR KIDS OR SOMETHING

814
00:40:38,740 --> 00:40:39,915
AND SOME BASEBALL PLAYERS
ARE OUT THERE

815
00:40:39,959 --> 00:40:41,787
AND THEY SAY,
"GODDAMMIT", WOULD YOU...?

816
00:40:41,830 --> 00:40:44,050
WELL, NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT
MEMBERS, YOU KNOW...

817
00:40:44,093 --> 00:40:45,617
WELL, YES, YES.

818
00:40:45,660 --> 00:40:48,924
ANYBODY WHO BLASPHEMES OUR
GOD SHOULD BE EXECUTED.

819
00:40:48,968 --> 00:40:50,796
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S
WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES.

820
00:40:50,839 --> 00:40:53,407
THEY WANT TO HEAD
TOWARDS A SHOOTING WAR,

821
00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:55,278
LIKE A JIHAD,
A HOLY WAR.

822
00:40:55,322 --> 00:40:59,282
SOME OF THE PLAYERS INVOLVED,
PAUL HILL, ANDREW CABOT,

823
00:40:59,326 --> 00:41:00,588
HAVE SAID THAT
THEY THINK THAT...

824
00:41:00,632 --> 00:41:03,025
IT IS JUSTIFIABLE

825
00:41:03,069 --> 00:41:06,376
TO KILL ABORTIONISTS
AND OTHERS

826
00:41:06,420 --> 00:41:08,944
SHOULD THEY NOT REPENT
FROM THEIR SINS.

827
00:41:08,988 --> 00:41:11,338
NOW, THE SINS THAT WERE
INCLUDED IN THERE,

828
00:41:11,381 --> 00:41:14,167
THEY MENTIONED SODOMITES,
WHICH IS THE...

829
00:41:14,210 --> 00:41:17,083
THE FUNDAMENTALIST TERM
FOR HOMOSEXUALS.

830
00:41:17,126 --> 00:41:19,041
THEY SHOULD BE KILLED,
THEY'RE WORTHY OF EXECUTION.

831
00:41:19,085 --> 00:41:22,175
AND PEOPLE WHO BLASPHEME
ARE WORTHY OF EXECUTION,

832
00:41:22,218 --> 00:41:25,004
SUCH AS SOMEBODY
WHO SAYS "GODDAMMIT".

833
00:41:25,047 --> 00:41:27,223
BOOM. THEY
SHOULD BE EXECUTED.

834
00:41:27,267 --> 00:41:28,921
I ASKED THEM THAT QUESTION
SPECIFICALLY.

835
00:41:28,964 --> 00:41:30,705
Reiter:
I'M TAKEN ABACK A LITTLE
BIT, I GUESS, HERE.

836
00:41:30,749 --> 00:41:33,708
DO YOU WANT TO KNOW OTHER
SINS THAT WE...

837
00:41:33,752 --> 00:41:35,449
WE'D EXECUTE PEOPLE FOR?

838
00:41:35,493 --> 00:41:36,537
Reiter:
YES, YES.

839
00:41:36,581 --> 00:41:38,234
THERE'S SOD... SODOMY.

840
00:41:38,278 --> 00:41:39,714
Reiter:
AND DEFINE SODOMY FOR THE...

841
00:41:39,758 --> 00:41:41,542
THOSE ARE THE SODOMITES
OVER THERE.

842
00:41:41,586 --> 00:41:43,065
THAT'S THE DEFINITION.

843
00:41:43,109 --> 00:41:44,458
Reiter:
WHAT... WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

844
00:41:44,502 --> 00:41:46,068
BECAUSE THEY'RE
IN FAVOR OF ABORTION?

845
00:41:46,112 --> 00:41:47,592
Cabot:
NO, THEY'RE SODOMITES.

846
00:41:47,635 --> 00:41:51,117
MOST OF YOUR RABID
FEMINISTS ARE SODOMITES.

847
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,728
MOST OF THEM. MOST
OF THE RABID FEMI-NAZIS

848
00:41:53,772 --> 00:41:56,252
ARE LESBIANS AND...
AND PRO-ABORTS.

849
00:41:56,296 --> 00:41:57,906
I MEAN,
THEY'RE PRO-ABORT TOO.

850
00:41:57,950 --> 00:41:59,908
Reiter:
SO A SODOMITE IS SOMEONE

851
00:41:59,952 --> 00:42:02,128
WHO HAS SEX WITH A PERSON
OF THEIR SAME GENDER?

852
00:42:02,171 --> 00:42:04,086
YES.
AND THEY DESERVE WHAT?

853
00:42:04,130 --> 00:42:05,914
EXECUTION.

854
00:42:05,958 --> 00:42:07,568
SO THE WHOLE DAY YESTERDAY
WAS KIND OF SURREAL FOR ME

855
00:42:07,612 --> 00:42:11,267
BECAUSE WHEN I HAD TALKED
TO PAUL HILL FIRST...

856
00:42:11,311 --> 00:42:13,356
AND... AND HE'S
VERY SMOOTH ON-CAMERA

857
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,707
AND IN...
IN INTERVIEWS...

858
00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:19,580
BUT WHEN HE'S AROUND
SOMEBODY LIKE ANDREW CABOT,

859
00:42:19,624 --> 00:42:22,975
THEN YOU SEE
THE OTHER SIDE OF HIM,

860
00:42:23,018 --> 00:42:25,107
THE... THE MORE
OMINOUS SIDE.

861
00:42:25,151 --> 00:42:26,369
THEN HE ADMITS THAT, YES,

862
00:42:26,413 --> 00:42:27,806
HE WOULD KILL SOMEBODY
FOR SAYING "GODDAMMIT".

863
00:42:27,849 --> 00:42:30,635
AND WHEN I
WALKED AWAY FROM THEM,

864
00:42:30,678 --> 00:42:33,246
I WAS ACTUALLY SHAKING
A LITTLE BIT.

865
00:42:33,289 --> 00:42:34,726
I MEAN, I'VE BEEN A
REPORTER FOR A LONG TIME

866
00:42:34,769 --> 00:42:36,249
AND I'VE HEARD
A LOT OF CRAZY THINGS,

867
00:42:36,292 --> 00:42:38,381
BUT THERE WAS JUST
SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

868
00:42:38,425 --> 00:42:40,514
I... I COULD SENSE
INSIDE MYSELF

869
00:42:40,558 --> 00:42:43,604
THAT SOMETHING REALLY EVIL
WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

870
00:42:43,648 --> 00:42:44,910
AND, I MEAN,
HOW DID IT COME ABOUT

871
00:42:44,953 --> 00:42:46,868
THAT YOU SIGNED
A STATEMENT IN...

872
00:42:46,912 --> 00:42:49,218
IN BEHALF OF
MICHAEL GRIFFIN?

873
00:42:49,262 --> 00:42:52,134
WELL, DEFENSIVE ACTION
IS A PRO-LIFE ORGANIZATION

874
00:42:52,178 --> 00:42:54,702
DECLARING THE JUSTICE
OF TAKING ALL GODLY
ACTION NECESSARY

875
00:42:54,746 --> 00:42:57,357
TO DEFEND INNOCENT
HUMAN LIFE, INCLUDING
THE USE OF FORCE.

876
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,794
WE'RE DECLARING THAT WHATEVER
FORCE IS JUSTIFIED

877
00:42:59,838 --> 00:43:01,840
IN THE DEFENSE OF THE LIFE
OF A BORN CHILD

878
00:43:01,883 --> 00:43:06,279
IS ALSO JUSTIFIED
IN DEFENSE OF THE LIFE
OF AN UNBORN CHILD.

879
00:43:06,322 --> 00:43:10,762
AND FIVE DAYS AFTER
THE SHOOTING OF DR. GUNN,

880
00:43:10,805 --> 00:43:13,460
I APPEARED ON THE
"DONAHUE" SHOW WITH
DR. DAVID GUNN'S SON

881
00:43:13,503 --> 00:43:15,984
AND I SAID THAT,
WHILE I DID NOT THINK

882
00:43:16,028 --> 00:43:19,814
THAT WHAT MICHAEL GRIFFIN DID
WAS NECESSARILY WISE...

883
00:43:19,858 --> 00:43:21,555
I SUSPENDED JUDGMENT
AS TO WHETHER IT
WAS WISE OR NOT...

884
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:24,253
I SAID I THOUGHT
IT WAS, IN FACT, JUST.

885
00:43:24,297 --> 00:43:26,516
Man:
WE, THE JURY, FIND AS FOLLOWS

886
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,780
AS TO THE CHARGE CONTAINED
IN THE INDICTMENT...

887
00:43:28,823 --> 00:43:31,739
GUILTY OF FIRST-DEGREE
MURDER AS CHARGED
IN THE INDICTMENT.

888
00:43:31,783 --> 00:43:35,743
SO SAY WE ALL
THIS 5th DAY OF MARCH, 1994.

889
00:43:38,137 --> 00:43:41,749
THE BLOOD OF THE CHILDREN
ARE ON THE JURY'S HANDS NOW.

890
00:43:41,793 --> 00:43:45,797
AND WHEN THEY FACE GOD
ON JUDGMENT DAY,

891
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,015
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE
TO ACCOUNT

892
00:43:47,059 --> 00:43:47,799
FOR WHAT HAPPENED
HERE TODAY.

893
00:43:47,842 --> 00:43:50,192
AND IT WON'T BE PRETTY.

894
00:43:50,236 --> 00:43:51,846
ARE YOU SURPRISED
AT THE VERDICT?

895
00:43:51,890 --> 00:43:53,500
NO, HE WAS GUILTY.

896
00:43:53,543 --> 00:43:55,197
THERE WASN'T
ANY QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

897
00:43:55,241 --> 00:43:58,505
I MEAN, THEY HAD FOUR PEOPLE
THAT HEARD CONFESSION SO...

898
00:43:58,548 --> 00:44:00,681
HE'S GUILTY.

899
00:44:00,725 --> 00:44:03,336
SO YOU'LL BE BACK OUT ON
NINTH AVENUE BEFORE LONG?

900
00:44:03,379 --> 00:44:05,294
Burt:
YES SIR,
NEXT FRIDAY.

901
00:44:05,338 --> 00:44:07,209
AND I... I WOULD GUESS,
IN SIX MONTHS

902
00:44:07,253 --> 00:44:09,342
WE'LL PROBABLY BE BACK UP
TO THE 50 OR 60 PEOPLE

903
00:44:09,385 --> 00:44:11,387
THAT WE HAD EVERY DAY
AT THE CLINIC AGAIN.

904
00:44:11,431 --> 00:44:13,694
SO ONCE WE GET OUT...
ONCE WE GET OUT

905
00:44:13,738 --> 00:44:15,783
FROM UNDER THE SHADOW OF
THE MICHAEL GRIFFIN CASE,

906
00:44:15,827 --> 00:44:19,221
DR. GUNN'S DEATH,
WE CAN GO ON
BUSINESS AS USUAL.

907
00:44:19,265 --> 00:44:22,311
THE... THE GUILTY VERDICT
ON MICHAEL GRIFFIN
WAS A TRAVESTY

908
00:44:22,355 --> 00:44:24,705
'CAUSE MICHAEL
IS ACTUALLY A HERO.

909
00:44:24,749 --> 00:44:26,402
HE LAID DOWN HIS LIFE

910
00:44:26,446 --> 00:44:28,578
OUT OF LOVE FOR
HIS UNBORN NEIGHBORS.

911
00:44:28,622 --> 00:44:30,842
BUT HE HAS RAISED
A QUESTION...

912
00:44:30,885 --> 00:44:32,974
AND THE QUESTION WILL NOT
BE PUT BACK IN THE BOX...

913
00:44:33,018 --> 00:44:34,367
AS TO WHETHER IT IS JUST

914
00:44:34,410 --> 00:44:36,848
TO DEFEND NOT ONLY
BORN CHILDREN

915
00:44:36,891 --> 00:44:39,285
BUT ALSO UNBORN CHILDREN,
WITH FORCE.

916
00:44:39,328 --> 00:44:42,375
AND IT'S CLEARLY JUSTIFIED
TO DO AS HE HAS DONE.

917
00:44:42,418 --> 00:44:44,072
AS A MATTER OF FACT,
NOT ONLY JUSTIFIED,

918
00:44:44,116 --> 00:44:45,552
BUT CHRIST HIMSELF
HAS SAID

919
00:44:45,595 --> 00:44:47,119
THAT WE SHOULD
DO UNTO OTHERS

920
00:44:47,162 --> 00:44:48,555
AS WE WOULD HAVE THEM
DO UNTO US.

921
00:44:48,598 --> 00:44:49,861
Reporter:
SO CAN WE EXPECT
TO SEE YOU

922
00:44:49,904 --> 00:44:51,166
ON TRIAL FOR MURDER
IN THE NEAR FUTURE?

923
00:44:54,604 --> 00:44:55,649
Reiter:
I... I DON'T
THINK WE'VE SEEN

924
00:44:55,693 --> 00:44:59,609
THE LAST TYPE OF VIOLENCE

925
00:44:59,653 --> 00:45:01,481
SUCH AS WHAT
MICHAEL GRIFFIN DID
WITH DR. GUNN.

926
00:45:01,524 --> 00:45:03,352
I THINK IT'S GOING
TO ESCALATE FROM
HERE ON OUT.

927
00:45:03,396 --> 00:45:04,832
THEY'RE VERY SMALL
IN NUMBER RIGHT NOW,

928
00:45:04,876 --> 00:45:06,268
BUT THEY WANT TO GROW

929
00:45:06,312 --> 00:45:08,053
AND THEY NEED TO DO
SOME OUTRAGEOUS THINGS

930
00:45:08,096 --> 00:45:10,229
TO GET THE KIND
OF MEDIA ATTENTION

931
00:45:10,272 --> 00:45:12,057
AND TO SORT OF
INSPIRE PEOPLE

932
00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:13,580
WHO WANT TO COME AND BE
MARTYRS FOR THE CAUSE.

933
00:45:13,623 --> 00:45:15,016
IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE

934
00:45:15,060 --> 00:45:17,105
BECAUSE NO ONE'S WILLING
TO TAKE ACTION.

935
00:45:17,149 --> 00:45:18,716
I MEAN, NO...

936
00:45:18,759 --> 00:45:22,632
THEY DIDN'T TAKE
SIGNIFICANT ACTION

937
00:45:22,676 --> 00:45:24,722
AFTER MY FATHER'S MURDER

938
00:45:24,765 --> 00:45:31,946
AND THAT CREATED A CLIMATE
WHERE THEY KIND OF SAID,

939
00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:34,296
"GO AHEAD
AND DO IT AGAIN."

940
00:45:34,340 --> 00:45:39,214
BECAUSE ALL THE HEADS
OF THE ORGANIZATIONS

941
00:45:39,258 --> 00:45:42,783
DIDN'T CONDEMN THE ACTIONS
OF MICHAEL GRIFFIN.

942
00:45:42,827 --> 00:45:45,438
THEY SAID, YOU KNOW,
"WE'RE SORRY, BUT..."

943
00:45:53,881 --> 00:45:56,188
AND I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL
FOR COMING OUT.

944
00:45:56,231 --> 00:45:59,452
AND IT MEANS A LOT TO ME
TO SEE EVERYBODY HERE.

945
00:45:59,495 --> 00:46:02,803
I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH
FOR... FOR BEING HERE,

946
00:46:02,847 --> 00:46:05,850
FOR CONTINUING TO...
TO DO WHAT YOU DO EVERY DAY

947
00:46:05,893 --> 00:46:07,460
UNDER... UNDER THE
PRESSURE, UNDER THE...

948
00:46:07,503 --> 00:46:09,984
THE HATE, UNDER THE...
THE THREAT OF VIOLENCE

949
00:46:10,028 --> 00:46:11,594
THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO FACE.

950
00:46:11,638 --> 00:46:13,858
IT'S AMAZING TO ME,
ESPECIALLY AFTER...

951
00:46:13,901 --> 00:46:16,382
AFTER MY FATHER
WAS MURDERED

952
00:46:16,425 --> 00:46:18,253
AND AFTER DR. TILLEY
WAS SHOT,

953
00:46:18,297 --> 00:46:20,603
AND EVEN DR. PATTERSON
WAS MURDERED IN MOBILE.

954
00:46:20,647 --> 00:46:23,041
LIKE, I MEAN, I CAN'T...

955
00:46:23,084 --> 00:46:24,825
BELIEVE THE CONVICTION
THAT YOU ALL MUST HAVE.

956
00:46:24,869 --> 00:46:28,611
AND EVEN... TODAY,

957
00:46:28,655 --> 00:46:29,830
WHEN WE'RE TRYING
TO HAVE A MEMORIAL SERVICE,

958
00:46:29,874 --> 00:46:31,397
WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.

959
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,877
I MEAN, WE HAVE PEOPLE
OVER THERE IN THE CORNER.

960
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,358
WE HAVE TO SHOW THESE PEOPLE
THAT THEY CAN STAND THERE,

961
00:46:36,402 --> 00:46:38,143
THEY CAN HOLD
THEIR SIGNS,

962
00:46:38,186 --> 00:46:41,537
THEY CAN SPEAK
THEIR WORDS...

963
00:46:41,581 --> 00:46:43,278
AND FOR EVERY
LAW THEY BREAK,

964
00:46:43,322 --> 00:46:45,237
WE CAN PASS A LAW
THAT WILL BREAK THEM.

965
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,326
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

966
00:46:47,369 --> 00:46:51,112
I HOPE THAT THIS NEXT YEAR
PROVES TO BE A LOT BETTER

967
00:46:51,156 --> 00:46:52,810
THAN THE ONE THAT WE'VE
JUST GOT FINISHED WITH.

968
00:46:52,853 --> 00:46:56,074
[ Applause ]

969
00:46:56,117 --> 00:47:02,123
BUT IF YOU PERSIST
IN KILLING BORN OR
UNBORN CHILDREN,

970
00:47:02,167 --> 00:47:05,344
THE WRATH OF GOD
ABIDES ON YOU.

971
00:47:05,387 --> 00:47:09,478
THIS IS THE SECOND DEATH,
THE LAKE OF FIRE.

972
00:47:09,522 --> 00:47:11,176
Man:
OH NO!

973
00:47:11,219 --> 00:47:14,875
NOT THE LAKE OF FIRE!

974
00:47:14,919 --> 00:47:19,358
MURDERERS SHOULD BE EXECUTED.

975
00:47:19,401 --> 00:47:21,926
ABORTIONISTS ARE MURDERERS,

976
00:47:21,969 --> 00:47:26,495
THEREFORE, ABORTIONISTS
SHOULD BE EXECUTED.

977
00:47:26,539 --> 00:47:29,890
THE RADICALS AND ZEALOTS
HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY

978
00:47:29,934 --> 00:47:31,979
SUDDENLY CHANGED
THE PATTERN

979
00:47:32,023 --> 00:47:34,895
THAT THEY HAD USED
IN THE PAST.

980
00:47:34,939 --> 00:47:36,549
WE WENT FROM HAVING

981
00:47:36,592 --> 00:47:41,249
VOLUNTEER ANTI-ABORTION
PEOPLE WHO FOUGHT
AGAINST US,

982
00:47:41,293 --> 00:47:44,122
AND IN MARCH OF 1989
THAT CHANGED.

983
00:47:44,165 --> 00:47:48,256
SUDDENLY THERE
WAS A CADRE OF
HIGHLY-PAID LEADERS.

984
00:47:48,300 --> 00:47:51,390
THERE WAS A CADRE
OF PART-TIME PEOPLE

985
00:47:51,433 --> 00:47:54,610
WHO ACT AS THE
SIGN-CARRIERS AND THE...

986
00:47:54,654 --> 00:47:57,048
WHAT THEY CALL
"SIDEWALK COUNSELORS",
THEY'RE...

987
00:47:57,091 --> 00:47:58,832
THEY'RE FAR
FROM COUNSELORS.

988
00:47:58,876 --> 00:48:00,878
THERE IS A
NATIONAL TECHNIQUE

989
00:48:00,921 --> 00:48:03,315
THAT THE
ANTI-ABORTION
EXTREMISTS

990
00:48:03,358 --> 00:48:04,664
HAVE USED AROUND
THE COUNTRY

991
00:48:04,707 --> 00:48:07,188
IN WHICH THEY BUY
THE PROPERTY,

992
00:48:07,232 --> 00:48:09,495
THE CLOSEST POSSIBLE
TO THE CLINIC.

993
00:48:09,538 --> 00:48:13,716
IN FACT, THIS HOUSEHOLD
AND THE PEOPLE AROUND IT

994
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:18,069
HAVE MORE PAID PEOPLE
WORKING AGAINST US

995
00:48:18,112 --> 00:48:20,854
THAN MY STAFF
INSIDE THIS CLINIC.

996
00:48:20,898 --> 00:48:24,684
THERE ALSO IS
A VOYEURISTIC COMPONENT

997
00:48:24,727 --> 00:48:27,382
ABOUT THESE PEOPLE WATCHING
ACROSS THE STREET.

998
00:48:27,426 --> 00:48:30,516
MANY OF THEM ARE
THE TERRIBLE PROFILE

999
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:32,344
THAT POLICE TELL YOU ABOUT:

1000
00:48:32,387 --> 00:48:34,999
THE SINGLE,
UNMARRIED MAN

1001
00:48:35,042 --> 00:48:38,480
WITH NO FAMILIAL
ATTACHMENTS OF ANY KIND.

1002
00:48:38,524 --> 00:48:41,570
I BELIEVE THAT THOSE MEN

1003
00:48:41,614 --> 00:48:45,531
GET THEIR SEXUAL FEELINGS
FROM THE VOYEURISM.

1004
00:48:45,574 --> 00:48:48,969
THE CLOSEST THOSE MEN
COME TO HAVING SEX

1005
00:48:49,013 --> 00:48:52,451
IS BY PREYING ON WOMEN
WHOM THEY KNOW HAVE HAD SEX,

1006
00:48:52,494 --> 00:48:55,149
AND THEY GET A LIBIDINOUS
THRILL FROM IT.

1007
00:48:55,193 --> 00:48:57,586
RELIGIOUS PEOPLE SHOULD BE
ACTIVE IN GREAT NUMBERS

1008
00:48:57,630 --> 00:48:59,719
TO PICKET AND
SIDEWALK-COUNSEL THESE WOMEN

1009
00:48:59,762 --> 00:49:02,287
TO DISCOURAGE THEM
FROM THE CRIME OF MURDER.

1010
00:49:02,330 --> 00:49:04,245
WITH PROPER CIVIL LAW,
THESE WOMEN,

1011
00:49:04,289 --> 00:49:05,855
ONCE THEY HAVE
PROCURED AN ABORTION,

1012
00:49:05,899 --> 00:49:08,206
SHOULD BE TRIED
AND CONVICTED

1013
00:49:08,249 --> 00:49:11,035
OF FIRST OR
SECOND-DEGREE MURDER
OR MANSLAUGHTER,

1014
00:49:11,078 --> 00:49:13,211
AS THE PARTICULAR
CIRCUMSTANCES OF
THE CASE WARRANTS.

1015
00:49:13,254 --> 00:49:15,387
IN SOME CASES,
IT SHOULD BE THE PERSON

1016
00:49:15,430 --> 00:49:17,432
WHO FORCED A WOMAN
OR A GIRL INTO
HAVING AN ABORTION

1017
00:49:17,476 --> 00:49:19,695
WHO SHOULD BE TRIED
AND CONVICTED.

1018
00:49:19,739 --> 00:49:22,089
THIS PROBLEM OF THE OVER
80% OF AMERICAN WOMEN

1019
00:49:22,133 --> 00:49:23,830
ARE GUILTY OF MURDER.

1020
00:49:23,873 --> 00:49:26,398
MOST OF THESE
REMAIN UNREPENTANT.

1021
00:49:26,441 --> 00:49:28,704
THEY ARE IN A STATE OF
DENIAL REGARDING THEIR GUILT

1022
00:49:28,748 --> 00:49:30,793
AND HAVE NOT ASKED
FOR GOD'S FORGIVENESS.

1023
00:49:30,837 --> 00:49:32,621
IT IS THESE WOMEN
AND THEIR MALE ACCOMPLICES

1024
00:49:32,665 --> 00:49:34,710
WHO MAKE IT SO DIFFICULT

1025
00:49:34,754 --> 00:49:37,235
FOR CLERGYMEN
WHO DO SPEAK
AGAINST THESE EVILS.

1026
00:49:37,278 --> 00:49:39,324
SHORT OF GOD'S DIRECT
INTERVENTION,

1027
00:49:39,367 --> 00:49:41,065
JUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDE,

1028
00:49:41,108 --> 00:49:43,850
A LEGAL DEFENSE IN
EVERY STATE OF THE UNION

1029
00:49:43,893 --> 00:49:46,113
AND RECENTLY ACKNOWLEDGED
BY ANN LANDERS,

1030
00:49:46,157 --> 00:49:47,985
MAY BE THE ONLY WAY
TO DISCOURAGE

1031
00:49:48,028 --> 00:49:49,943
THE PRACTICE OF ABORTION
IN THE FUTURE.

1032
00:49:49,987 --> 00:49:52,250
I BELIEVE THAT
WE'RE ON THE VERGE

1033
00:49:52,293 --> 00:49:53,903
OF GOING OUT
INTO THE UNIVERSE,

1034
00:49:53,947 --> 00:49:55,514
AND I BELIEVE THAT...

1035
00:49:55,557 --> 00:49:59,039
WE WILL HAVE A
HOLY PEOPLE AT THAT TIME.

1036
00:49:59,083 --> 00:50:01,433
SO WITHIN THE NEXT
20 TO 50 YEARS...

1037
00:50:01,476 --> 00:50:03,739
WE WOULD HAVE A
COMPLETE REVERSAL

1038
00:50:03,783 --> 00:50:05,393
OF WHAT WE HAVE TODAY,

1039
00:50:05,437 --> 00:50:07,482
HAVE A VERY HIGHLY
RELIGIOUS PEOPLE,

1040
00:50:07,526 --> 00:50:09,049
AND IT WOULD BE THESE
PEOPLE WHO WOULD GO OUT

1041
00:50:09,093 --> 00:50:10,485
AND POPULATE THE UNIVERSE.

1042
00:50:10,529 --> 00:50:12,139
OR, AS THE CASE MAY BE,

1043
00:50:12,183 --> 00:50:13,967
IF THERE'S ALREADY
POPULATIONS OUT THERE,

1044
00:50:14,011 --> 00:50:17,101
WOULD INSTRUCT THEM
IN PROPER FAITH.

1045
00:50:18,493 --> 00:50:21,757
JOHN BURT OWNED
A LITTLE BIT OF THAT LAND

1046
00:50:21,801 --> 00:50:23,716
ON TWO SIDES OF
THE LADIES CENTER

1047
00:50:23,759 --> 00:50:27,763
WHICH HE USED FOR...
PLATFORMS OVER THE FENCE

1048
00:50:27,807 --> 00:50:30,157
TO HOLLER AT PEOPLE
AS THEY WENT IN AND
OUT OF THE CLINIC.

1049
00:50:30,201 --> 00:50:32,464
AND PAUL HILL
CAME TO PENSACOLA.

1050
00:50:32,507 --> 00:50:36,163
HE BEGAN PICKETING,
JOINING IN THE ACTIVITIES

1051
00:50:36,207 --> 00:50:38,557
AT THE LADIES CENTER,
IN PARTICULAR.

1052
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,516
HE WAS REGARDED
WITH SUSPICION BY BURT

1053
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,216
AND THE CONROYS AND
THE OTHER LEADERS AT
THOSE PICKETING EVENTS.

1054
00:50:45,259 --> 00:50:47,566
PUBLICLY,
THEY DISAVOWED HIM;

1055
00:50:47,609 --> 00:50:52,919
AT THE SAME TIME
THEY COOPERATED WITH
HIM AND HE WITH THEM.

1056
00:50:52,962 --> 00:50:56,227
HE STOOD ON BURT'S PLATFORM
SCREAMING AT WOMEN

1057
00:50:56,270 --> 00:50:58,751
AND NO ONE COULD GET
ON THAT PLATFORM

1058
00:50:58,794 --> 00:51:00,057
WITHOUT BURT'S PERMISSION.

1059
00:51:00,100 --> 00:51:03,495
SO, OBVIOUSLY,
THEY WERE WORKING TOGETHER.

1060
00:51:03,538 --> 00:51:06,106
Reporter:
DR. BRITTON TOLD ME

1061
00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:07,499
HE WEARS HIS
BULLET-PROOF VEST

1062
00:51:07,542 --> 00:51:09,849
TO REASSURE HIS FAMILY
AND STAFF,

1063
00:51:09,892 --> 00:51:12,069
AND AS A NORMAL
SAFETY MEASURE.

1064
00:51:12,112 --> 00:51:15,768
WELL, I HAVE THE SAME
CONCERN LEST THERE...

1065
00:51:15,811 --> 00:51:17,422
SOMETHING MIGHT GO WRONG,

1066
00:51:17,465 --> 00:51:19,859
SO I TRY TO KEEP
MY EYES OPEN

1067
00:51:19,902 --> 00:51:21,382
AND LOOK AROUND.

1068
00:51:21,426 --> 00:51:25,908
BUT I...
I'M NOT ANY...

1069
00:51:25,952 --> 00:51:27,823
REALLY, ANY MORE AFRAID
THAN I WOULD BE

1070
00:51:27,867 --> 00:51:30,826
IN ANY OTHER SITUATION

1071
00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:33,002
WHERE ONE HAS TO
USE PRECAUTIONS.

1072
00:51:33,046 --> 00:51:35,135
Reporter:
PROTESTERS WHO CONGREGATE

1073
00:51:35,179 --> 00:51:36,789
OUTSIDE THE CLINICS
WHERE HE PRACTICES

1074
00:51:36,832 --> 00:51:38,182
HAVE FOLLOWED HIM,

1075
00:51:38,225 --> 00:51:40,009
RUN CHECKS ON HIS
LICENSE PLATE,

1076
00:51:40,053 --> 00:51:43,143
AND PRODUCE WHAT THEY
DESCRIBE AS "UNWANTED"
POSTERS ABOUT HIM,

1077
00:51:43,187 --> 00:51:45,406
BUT HE IS NOT INTIMIDATED.

1078
00:51:45,450 --> 00:51:48,017
IT'S JUST THAT
HERE'S A JOB THAT

1079
00:51:48,061 --> 00:51:51,282
IF I DON'T DO IT, IT
PROBABLY WON'T GET DONE.

1080
00:51:51,325 --> 00:51:52,544
AND SO I DO IT.

1081
00:51:53,893 --> 00:51:55,503
ABORTIONISTS
ARE MURDERERS!

1082
00:51:55,547 --> 00:51:58,898
MURDERERS SHOULD
BE EXECUTED!

1083
00:51:58,941 --> 00:52:00,987
[ Chorus singing ]

1084
00:52:20,746 --> 00:52:22,269
AND THEN WHEN I
DID GET THE WORD

1085
00:52:22,313 --> 00:52:23,662
THAT IT WAS THE DOC...

1086
00:52:25,316 --> 00:52:26,491
I COLLAPSED.

1087
00:52:26,534 --> 00:52:28,057
I JUST COULD NOT
BELIEVE...

1088
00:52:28,101 --> 00:52:29,450
I MEAN, I REMEMBER...
I'D NEVER LOST
CONSCIOUSNESS,

1089
00:52:29,494 --> 00:52:30,799
BUT I REMEMBER
HITTING THE DIRT,

1090
00:52:30,843 --> 00:52:32,671
'CAUSE I COULD
NOT BELIEVE THAT,

1091
00:52:32,714 --> 00:52:34,716
"MY GOD, THIS HAS
HAPPENED AGAIN."

1092
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,937
I'M ANGRY BECAUSE
PAUL HILL STOOD OUT FRONT

1093
00:52:37,980 --> 00:52:39,939
FOR THE LAST,
WHAT, 17 MONTHS

1094
00:52:39,982 --> 00:52:41,462
WITH A SIGN THAT
SAYS "BY GOD."

1095
00:52:41,506 --> 00:52:42,985
YOU KNOW, HE DIDN'T SAY,
"I'M GOING TO DO IT,"

1096
00:52:43,029 --> 00:52:44,639
BUT HE SURE
ADVOCATED IT...

1097
00:52:44,683 --> 00:52:46,511
AND THAT IT WAS
GOING TO HAPPEN.

1098
00:52:46,554 --> 00:52:51,951
[ ♪♪♪ ]

1099
00:52:51,994 --> 00:52:53,213
Reporter:
WHY DID YOU DO IT?

1100
00:52:53,257 --> 00:52:54,867
NOW IS THE TIME
TO DEFEND THE UNBORN

1101
00:52:54,910 --> 00:52:57,826
IN THE SAME WAY YOU
DEFEND SLAVES ABOUT
TO BE MURDERED.

1102
00:52:57,870 --> 00:53:00,002
ONE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
PAUL HILL AND MICHAEL

1103
00:53:00,046 --> 00:53:03,571
IS THAT MICHAEL WAS
JUST KIND OF A FRUITCAKE.

1104
00:53:03,615 --> 00:53:07,749
NOW, PAUL HILL REALLY
SINCERELY BELIEVED
WHAT HE DID WAS RIGHT

1105
00:53:07,793 --> 00:53:09,795
AND HE WOULD GIVE YOU
SCRIPTURE TO BACK THAT UP,

1106
00:53:09,838 --> 00:53:14,234
WHICH I DON'T THINK HE CAN,
BUT HE THINKS HE CAN.

1107
00:53:14,278 --> 00:53:16,889
SO I LIKE PAUL.
PAUL'S A LIKEABLE GUY.

1108
00:53:16,932 --> 00:53:17,933
I CONSIDER PAUL A FRIEND.

1109
00:53:19,892 --> 00:53:21,894
THE COURT FINDS,
AS DID THE JURY,

1110
00:53:21,937 --> 00:53:26,246
THAT THE AGGRAVATING
CIRCUMSTANCES
PRESENTED IN THIS CASE

1111
00:53:26,290 --> 00:53:29,902
OUTWEIGH THE MITIGATING
CIRCUMSTANCES PRESENTED.

1112
00:53:29,945 --> 00:53:33,384
ACCORDINGLY,
IT IS ORDERED AND JUDGED

1113
00:53:33,427 --> 00:53:35,473
THAT DEFENDANT
PAUL JENNINGS HILL

1114
00:53:35,516 --> 00:53:39,390
IS HEREBY SENTENCED
IN COUNT ONE, TO DEATH,

1115
00:53:39,433 --> 00:53:42,828
FOR THE MURDER OF
DR. JOHN BAYARD BRITTON.

1116
00:53:42,871 --> 00:53:46,614
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED
THAT THE DEFENDANT,
PAUL JENNINGS HILL,

1117
00:53:46,658 --> 00:53:50,401
IS HEREBY SENTENCED
IN COUNT TWO, TO DEATH,

1118
00:53:50,444 --> 00:53:53,186
FOR THE MURDER OF
JAMES HERMAN BARRETT.

1119
00:53:53,230 --> 00:53:56,842
THE DEFENDANT IS HEREBY
COMMITTED TO THE CUSTODY

1120
00:53:56,885 --> 00:53:59,192
OF THE DEPARTMENT
OF CORRECTIONS IN
THE STATE OF FLORIDA

1121
00:53:59,236 --> 00:54:03,022
FOR EXECUTION OF
THIS SENTENCE AS
PROVIDED BY LAW.

1122
00:54:03,065 --> 00:54:05,154
MAY GOD HAVE MERCY
ON YOUR SOUL.

1123
00:54:05,198 --> 00:54:06,982
Woman:
YOUR HONOR,

1124
00:54:07,026 --> 00:54:09,028
THE WORD OF THE LORD
SAYS, "TEST NOT..."

1125
00:54:09,071 --> 00:54:10,290
Judge:
ORDER IN THE COURT.

1126
00:54:10,334 --> 00:54:11,987
Woman:
"...CHARGED TO MY..."

1127
00:54:12,031 --> 00:54:14,163
THIS MAN
IS INNOCENT

1128
00:54:14,207 --> 00:54:16,209
AND HIS BLOOD WILL
BE ON YOUR HANDS

1129
00:54:16,253 --> 00:54:19,604
AND THE HANDS OF
THE PEOPLE OF THE
STATE OF FLORIDA

1130
00:54:19,647 --> 00:54:21,432
AND ON THE JURY.

1131
00:54:21,475 --> 00:54:22,476
Man:
SHE'S RIGHT.

1132
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,522
Woman:
THAT'S RIGHT, YOUR HONOR.

1133
00:54:24,565 --> 00:54:26,306
AND WE SUPPORT PAUL.

1134
00:54:26,350 --> 00:54:27,960
WE THINK
IN THE FUTURE

1135
00:54:28,003 --> 00:54:30,223
THERE WILL BE
MUCH MORE OF
THESE ACTIONS.

1136
00:54:30,267 --> 00:54:33,095
WE THINK THAT MAYBE
TRUCK BOMBINGS OF
ABORTION CONVENTIONS,

1137
00:54:33,139 --> 00:54:34,880
SURFACE-TO-SURFACE
MISSILES MAY BE USED.

1138
00:54:34,923 --> 00:54:36,795
ABORTION MUST
BE BANNED NOW

1139
00:54:36,838 --> 00:54:38,449
OR THIS FORCE
WILL SPIN OUT
OF CONTROL.

1140
00:54:38,492 --> 00:54:40,146
ABSOLUTELY.

1141
00:54:40,189 --> 00:54:41,321
Reporter:
DO YOU THINK
SOMETHING ELSE

1142
00:54:41,365 --> 00:54:42,714
IS GOING TO HAPPEN
AS A RESULT OF THIS?

1143
00:54:42,757 --> 00:54:44,150
IN TIME.
I CAN'T ANSWER

1144
00:54:44,193 --> 00:54:45,630
JUST EXACTLY HOW SOON,
BUT IN... IN TIME.

1145
00:54:45,673 --> 00:54:47,675
IT WILL MOTIVATE PEOPLE,

1146
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,503
PARTICULARLY WHEN PAUL
HAS ACTUALLY BEEN EXECUTED,

1147
00:54:49,547 --> 00:54:51,984
IT WILL MOTIVATE PEOPLE
TO BECOME VERY ACTIVE.

1148
00:54:52,027 --> 00:54:53,768
Reporter:
TO DO WHAT?

1149
00:54:53,812 --> 00:54:56,815
TO... TAKE ACTION,

1150
00:54:56,858 --> 00:54:58,164
VIOLENT ACTION
IF NECESSARY,

1151
00:54:58,207 --> 00:55:00,253
AGAINST ABORTIONISTS,
THEIR STAFFS,

1152
00:55:00,297 --> 00:55:03,996
FACILITIES
THAT PERFORM ABORTIONS.

1153
00:55:04,039 --> 00:55:05,911
THE OTHER DAY
I WAS PASSING...

1154
00:55:05,954 --> 00:55:07,304
I HAD BEEN SOMEWHERE

1155
00:55:07,347 --> 00:55:09,218
AND PASSED A FAMILY
PLANNING CLINIC

1156
00:55:09,262 --> 00:55:12,396
WHERE PEOPLE WERE
SO VEHEMENTLY PROTESTING

1157
00:55:12,439 --> 00:55:16,574
WITH THOSE AWFUL PICTURES
OF FETUSES AND SO ON;

1158
00:55:16,617 --> 00:55:19,359
AND I GOT TO THINKING,
"WHAT IN THE WORLD...?"

1159
00:55:19,403 --> 00:55:21,666
IF I THINK OF THIS AS
A PROJECTION, YOU KNOW,

1160
00:55:21,709 --> 00:55:24,277
IF PEOPLE ARE
VERY MOVED, I...

1161
00:55:24,321 --> 00:55:25,974
I THINK WE THINK OF,

1162
00:55:26,018 --> 00:55:29,413
FROM THE POINT OF
VIEW OF THE PSYCHE
OF WHAT MOVES PEOPLE,

1163
00:55:29,456 --> 00:55:34,418
AND THAT OFTEN
WHAT PEOPLE GET
SO UP IN ARMS ABOUT

1164
00:55:34,461 --> 00:55:36,811
IS SOMETHING OF THEIR
OWN INTERNAL LIFE

1165
00:55:36,855 --> 00:55:38,509
THAT'S PROJECTED
OUT ON THE WORLD.

1166
00:55:38,552 --> 00:55:40,598
SO I THOUGHT, WELL,
WHAT COULD THIS BE

1167
00:55:40,641 --> 00:55:43,383
THAT PEOPLE
WHO ARE SO FURIOUS

1168
00:55:43,427 --> 00:55:47,909
AT WOMEN WHO ARE GOING
TO HAVE AN ABORTION?

1169
00:55:47,953 --> 00:55:50,259
WHAT... WHAT IS IT?

1170
00:55:50,303 --> 00:55:54,655
ARE THEY PROJECTING
THEIR OWN KILLING
A NEW LIFE,

1171
00:55:54,699 --> 00:55:57,876
WHAT NEW LIFE MIGHT
THEY BE KILLING IN THEMSELVES

1172
00:55:57,919 --> 00:55:59,530
THAT THEY'RE PROJECTING
ONTO THESE WOMEN?

1173
00:55:59,573 --> 00:56:02,968
AND THAT... THEN
IT OCCURRED TO ME

1174
00:56:03,011 --> 00:56:04,448
I MIGHT THINK
ABOUT THAT FURTHER,

1175
00:56:04,491 --> 00:56:08,365
WHICH I INTEND TO DO,
BECAUSE I THINK DOGMA...

1176
00:56:08,408 --> 00:56:11,890
YOU KNOW, IF ONE
SUBSCRIBES TO A DOGMA,

1177
00:56:11,933 --> 00:56:15,850
THERE'S A KIND OF KILLING
OF ANY NEW LIFE.

1178
00:56:15,894 --> 00:56:22,379
WHEN CREATIVITY,
NEW THINKING, NEW
FEELING, CAN'T...

1179
00:56:22,422 --> 00:56:25,251
CAN'T GET BORN, IT
GETS KILLED BY THE DOGMA.

1180
00:56:25,294 --> 00:56:28,602
AT AROUND 10:00 A.M.

1181
00:56:28,646 --> 00:56:31,649
ON DECEMBER 30th,
A FRIDAY MORNING,

1182
00:56:31,692 --> 00:56:35,217
I WAS IN PRE-TERM
IN THE STOCK ROOM

1183
00:56:35,261 --> 00:56:38,656
WHEN SUDDENLY I HEARD
THE SOUND OF GUNFIRE:

1184
00:56:38,699 --> 00:56:40,614
POP, POP, POP, POP.

1185
00:56:40,658 --> 00:56:43,791
BEING AN NRA-CERTIFIED
INSTRUCTOR,

1186
00:56:43,835 --> 00:56:45,706
I RECOGNIZED IMMEDIATELY

1187
00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:50,319
THAT THIS WAS SMALL CALIBER
SEMI-AUTOMATIC FIRE,

1188
00:56:50,363 --> 00:56:53,540
EITHER FROM A PISTOL
OR A RIFLE.

1189
00:56:53,584 --> 00:56:58,937
I DREW MY EAST GERMAN-MADE
MAKAROV PISTOL

1190
00:56:58,980 --> 00:57:00,765
FROM MY LEFT-HAND
SIDE HOLSTER

1191
00:57:00,808 --> 00:57:03,071
AND APPROACHED THE DOOR.

1192
00:57:03,115 --> 00:57:14,387
[ ♪♪♪ ]

1193
00:57:14,431 --> 00:57:17,390
I PULLED THE DOOR OPEN
WITH MY RIGHT HAND

1194
00:57:17,434 --> 00:57:19,914
AND ENTERED
THE CRIME SCENE.

1195
00:57:42,197 --> 00:57:45,200
I SAW JANE SAUER
LYING PRONE

1196
00:57:45,244 --> 00:57:48,639
AT THE BACK OF THE OFFICE
NEAR A COFFEE MACHINE,

1197
00:57:48,682 --> 00:57:50,858
BUT SHE WAS STILL ALIVE,

1198
00:57:50,902 --> 00:57:52,904
SHE WAS STILL MOVING
AND SQUIRMING.

1199
00:57:52,947 --> 00:57:56,211
OFF TO THE RIGHT I SPOTTED
A SUSPECT, AN INTRUDER,

1200
00:57:56,255 --> 00:58:00,085
AND HE AND I BEGAN
TO ENGAGE IN GUNFIRE.

1201
00:58:07,788 --> 00:58:11,444
I HAD A LIMITED CAPACITY,
NINE SHOTS,

1202
00:58:11,488 --> 00:58:13,751
BUT APPARENTLY
MY OPPONENT HAD

1203
00:58:13,794 --> 00:58:17,276
UP TO 50 OR MORE SHOTS
IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE

1204
00:58:17,319 --> 00:58:22,150
AND HAD HUNDREDS
MORE AVAILABLE TO
HIM IN A BLACK BAG.

1205
00:58:22,194 --> 00:58:24,805
WE FOUGHT FOR
A SHORT PERIOD,

1206
00:58:24,849 --> 00:58:28,548
AND DURING THAT TIME
I WAS WOUNDED THREE TIMES

1207
00:58:28,592 --> 00:58:30,898
BY THREE OR FOUR BULLETS.

1208
00:58:30,942 --> 00:58:45,826
[ ♪♪♪ ]

1209
00:58:50,178 --> 00:58:51,528
DURING A GUN FIGHT,

1210
00:58:51,571 --> 00:58:57,664
YOU DON'T FEEL FEAR
OR PAIN OR ANGER.

1211
00:58:57,708 --> 00:58:59,971
TIME SEEMED TO BE
GREATLY EXPANDED

1212
00:59:00,014 --> 00:59:03,017
AS IF MOVING
IN SLOW MOTION.

1213
00:59:03,061 --> 00:59:04,976
AND I WAS ABLE
TO REMEMBER

1214
00:59:05,019 --> 00:59:09,023
EVERY DETAIL OF
THE SUSPECT'S FACE

1215
00:59:09,067 --> 00:59:12,461
INCLUDING HIS
BLAZING EYES,

1216
00:59:12,505 --> 00:59:17,641
HIS FURROWED BROW
AND HIS TAUT MOUTH,

1217
00:59:17,684 --> 00:59:20,557
A SIGHT THAT
I'LL NEVER FORGET.

1218
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,734
ON THAT DAY, TO ME,
HE LOOKED AS WHITE
AS A GHOST.

1219
00:59:23,777 --> 00:59:27,825
AND I'LL ALWAYS REMEMBER
THE SOUNDS OF THE GUNFIRE,

1220
00:59:27,868 --> 00:59:30,088
POP, POP, POP, POP,

1221
00:59:30,131 --> 00:59:33,874
AND THE CRIES
FROM LEANNE NICHOLS,

1222
00:59:33,918 --> 00:59:36,137
"NO! NO! NO! NO!"

1223
00:59:36,181 --> 00:59:38,879
FOLLOWED BY SHRILL,
HIGH-PITCHED SCREAMS.

1224
00:59:45,190 --> 00:59:49,455
AND I'LL ALWAYS
REMEMBER THE OATH
THAT HE CRIED OUT AT ME

1225
00:59:49,498 --> 00:59:53,677
AS HE WAS PEPPERING ME
WITH GUNFIRE.

1226
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,723
IN A BLASPHEMOUS WAY
HE SAID,

1227
00:59:56,767 --> 00:59:59,117
"IN THE NAME OF
THE MOTHER OF GOD."

1228
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,380
THOSE WORDS
I WILL NEVER FORGET.

1229
01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:14,611
Dr. Resnick:
A FEW MONTHS AGO,

1230
01:00:14,654 --> 01:00:18,789
A MAN IN FLORIDA
KILLED A DOCTOR WHO
PERFORMED ABORTIONS.

1231
01:00:18,832 --> 01:00:20,660
DO YOU RECALL,
REMEMBER HIS NAME?

1232
01:00:20,704 --> 01:00:22,009
NO. WHAT WAS THAT?

1233
01:00:22,053 --> 01:00:26,884
DO YOU REMEMBER
READING ABOUT IT?

1234
01:00:26,927 --> 01:00:29,887
READING THAT HE SHOT
A PHYSICIAN TO DEATH

1235
01:00:29,930 --> 01:00:31,802
AND HE WAS CHARGED
AND CONVICTED
OF MURDER?

1236
01:00:31,845 --> 01:00:35,414
UH...

1237
01:00:35,457 --> 01:00:37,895
DO YOU RECALL
READING ABOUT?

1238
01:00:37,938 --> 01:00:41,899
HUH! UH... I'VE
HEARD DIFFERENT
THINGS IN THE PAPER

1239
01:00:41,942 --> 01:00:43,378
ABOUT DIFFERENT
INDIVIDUALS DOING
STUFF LIKE THAT.

1240
01:00:43,422 --> 01:00:44,684
OKAY.

1241
01:00:44,728 --> 01:00:47,905
DO YOU SUPPORT
THAT KIND OF
CONDUCT OR NOT?

1242
01:00:47,948 --> 01:00:51,038
DO I SUPPORT IT?
THAT'S A QUESTION THAT I...

1243
01:00:52,997 --> 01:00:54,520
I DON'T KNOW.
DOES THE POPE SUPPORT IT?

1244
01:00:54,563 --> 01:00:57,784
IF THE POPE SUPPORTED IT,
I SUPPORT IT.

1245
01:00:57,828 --> 01:01:00,221
HOW DOES THE POPE
FEEL ABOUT IT?

1246
01:01:00,265 --> 01:01:02,267
I DON'T KNOW THE
ANSWER TO THAT.

1247
01:01:02,310 --> 01:01:03,703
HAS... HAS THE POPE
MADE A PROCLAMATION

1248
01:01:03,747 --> 01:01:05,009
ONE WAY OR THE
OTHER ON IT?

1249
01:01:05,052 --> 01:01:07,751
HAVE YOU ASKED HIM?
I... I DON'T KNOW.

1250
01:01:07,794 --> 01:01:10,101
IF EVERY CATHOLIC
WAS LIKE ME...

1251
01:01:10,144 --> 01:01:11,319
MM-HMM.

1252
01:01:11,363 --> 01:01:13,408
JUST LIKE ME...

1253
01:01:13,452 --> 01:01:17,238
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WOULD
HAVE ANYTHING IT WANTED.

1254
01:01:17,282 --> 01:01:18,805
BUT I JUST WANT
TO UNDERSTAND

1255
01:01:18,849 --> 01:01:21,199
YOUR VIEWS
ON ABORTION,

1256
01:01:21,242 --> 01:01:23,723
PERSONALLY AND
AS A CATHOLIC.

1257
01:01:23,767 --> 01:01:25,725
I BELIEVE ALONG
THE LINES OF WHAT
THE POPE BELIEVES.

1258
01:01:25,769 --> 01:01:27,684
WHATEVER THE POPE
BELIEVES, I BELIEVE.

1259
01:01:27,727 --> 01:01:29,642
ALL RIGHT.
AND...

1260
01:01:29,686 --> 01:01:33,167
THE POPE DELEGATES HIS
AUTHORITY TO THE...

1261
01:01:33,211 --> 01:01:35,866
CARDINALS, TO
THE BISHOPS...

1262
01:01:35,909 --> 01:01:37,519
TO THE PRIESTS...
BUT THE...

1263
01:01:37,563 --> 01:01:39,434
THE POPE HAS A
SPECIFIC PAPAL
ENCYCLICAL

1264
01:01:39,478 --> 01:01:41,132
...TO ME.
ON ABORTION,
RIGHT?

1265
01:01:41,175 --> 01:01:42,611
THE POPE HAS
TAKEN A VERY
FIXED POSITION...

1266
01:01:42,655 --> 01:01:44,352
YES, I BACK THE POPE UP.
OKAY.

1267
01:01:44,396 --> 01:01:46,398
AND WHAT IS
THAT POSITION?
HE'S AGAINST IT.

1268
01:01:46,441 --> 01:01:47,965
ALL RIGHT,
AND...
COMPLETELY.

1269
01:01:48,008 --> 01:01:49,706
COMPLETELY?
YEAH.

1270
01:01:49,749 --> 01:01:50,881
OKAY. AND DO
YOU FEEL THE
SAME WAY?

1271
01:01:50,924 --> 01:01:52,883
YES.
ALL RIGHT.

1272
01:01:52,926 --> 01:01:54,362
HOW STRONGLY?
I'M ALSO AGAINST

1273
01:01:54,406 --> 01:01:56,625
QUITE A FEW FORMS
OF BIRTH CONTROL TOO.

1274
01:01:56,669 --> 01:01:59,977
OKAY. LET'S STAY
WITH ABORTION,

1275
01:02:00,020 --> 01:02:02,588
JUST KEEP IT
SIMPLE HERE.

1276
01:02:02,631 --> 01:02:05,634
HOW STRONG AN ADVOCATE
ARE YOU FOR THE
ANTI-ABORTION...?

1277
01:02:05,678 --> 01:02:07,854
AS STRONG AS THE POPE IS.

1278
01:02:07,898 --> 01:02:09,726
OKAY. AND
HAVE YOU...

1279
01:02:09,769 --> 01:02:10,857
IF THE POPE
SAYS, "JUMP,"

1280
01:02:10,901 --> 01:02:11,989
THE CATHOLIC PEOPLE
SHOULD JUMP.

1281
01:02:12,032 --> 01:02:13,817
IF THE POPE
SAYS, "SIT,"

1282
01:02:13,860 --> 01:02:15,427
THE CATHOLIC PEOPLE
SHOULD SIT.
OKAY.

1283
01:02:15,470 --> 01:02:17,472
THE ONES WHO DON'T SIT
WHEN THE POPE SAYS SIT

1284
01:02:17,516 --> 01:02:19,126
AND THE ONES WHO
DON'T JUMP WHEN
THE POPE SAYS JUMP

1285
01:02:19,170 --> 01:02:21,302
ARE THE ONES
THAT AREN'T SMART.

1286
01:02:21,346 --> 01:02:22,216
OKAY.

1287
01:02:35,099 --> 01:02:40,234
IN THE NAME OF JESUS...

1288
01:02:40,278 --> 01:02:41,975
Reporter:
IN AN INTERVIEW
JUST DAYS BEFORE

1289
01:02:42,019 --> 01:02:43,716
HE WAS DUE TO BE EXECUTED,

1290
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,849
PAUL HILL SAID
THAT HE WOULD HAVE
DESERVED IMPRISONMENT

1291
01:02:45,892 --> 01:02:46,937
HAD HE BEEN
AN ABORTIONIST,

1292
01:02:46,980 --> 01:02:48,460
BUT THAT IT WAS
OFFENSIVE TO HIM

1293
01:02:48,503 --> 01:02:49,809
THAT THE GOVERNMENT
WANTED TO KILL HIM

1294
01:02:49,853 --> 01:02:51,550
FOR HAVING DONE
A GOOD DEED.

1295
01:02:51,593 --> 01:03:06,565
[ ♪♪♪ ]

1296
01:03:09,611 --> 01:03:11,309
Reporter:
AT JUST PAST 6:00 P.M.

1297
01:03:11,352 --> 01:03:13,398
ON SEPTEMBER 3rd, 2003,

1298
01:03:13,441 --> 01:03:15,226
OFFICERS OF
THE STATE OF FLORIDA

1299
01:03:15,269 --> 01:03:17,184
PUSHED A NEEDLE CONTAINING
A DEADLY COCKTAIL OF DRUGS

1300
01:03:17,228 --> 01:03:19,012
INTO THE ARM OF PAUL HILL.

1301
01:03:19,056 --> 01:03:20,666
[ Mixed shouts ]

1302
01:03:23,234 --> 01:03:25,105
Reporter:
A DAY BEFORE HE DIED,

1303
01:03:25,149 --> 01:03:26,890
HILL HAD SAID:
"TO BE QUITE HONEST,

1304
01:03:26,933 --> 01:03:28,674
IT SEEMED LIKE A WONDERFUL
PRIVILEGE TO ME

1305
01:03:28,717 --> 01:03:31,068
TO DIE FOR HAVING DEFENDED
INNOCENT PEOPLE."

1306
01:03:33,505 --> 01:03:38,510
♪ THE CROSS BEFORE ME

1307
01:03:38,553 --> 01:03:43,602
♪ THE WORLD BEHIND ME

1308
01:03:43,645 --> 01:03:48,955
♪ THE CROSS BEFORE ME

1309
01:03:48,999 --> 01:03:54,526
♪ THE WORLD BEHIND ME

1310
01:03:54,569 --> 01:03:59,879
♪ THE CROSS BEFORE ME

1311
01:03:59,923 --> 01:04:05,406
♪ THE WORLD BEHIND ME

1312
01:04:05,450 --> 01:04:09,628
♪ NO TURNING BACK...

1313
01:04:09,671 --> 01:04:10,890
Wilson:
THE WHOLE CONFLICT

1314
01:04:10,934 --> 01:04:14,546
ON ABORTION IN THE
UNITED STATES HAS ARISEN

1315
01:04:14,589 --> 01:04:16,243
BECAUSE OF THE
RELIGIOUS RIGHT

1316
01:04:16,287 --> 01:04:17,723
JUMPING ON THIS ISSUE

1317
01:04:17,766 --> 01:04:21,379
AS SOMETHING TO USE
TO CONVERT PEOPLE,

1318
01:04:21,422 --> 01:04:25,426
TO GAIN ADHERENCE
TO THEIR PARTICULAR...

1319
01:04:25,470 --> 01:04:28,125
FUNDAMENTAL
CHRISTIANITY BELIEFS,

1320
01:04:28,168 --> 01:04:30,344
AND ALSO TO RAISE MONEY,

1321
01:04:30,388 --> 01:04:32,085
NOT INCIDENTALLY,
TO RAISE MONEY.

1322
01:04:32,129 --> 01:04:34,740
THEY USE PROPAGANDA
AS WELL AS ANYBODY ELSE.

1323
01:04:34,783 --> 01:04:35,915
THEY KNOW
THE TECHNIQUES.

1324
01:04:35,959 --> 01:04:38,396
THEY KNOW THAT
YOU TAKE AN ISSUE

1325
01:04:38,439 --> 01:04:40,833
AND YOU PUSH IT
INTO THE MARKETPLACE

1326
01:04:40,877 --> 01:04:42,313
AND PEOPLE RESPOND TO IT,

1327
01:04:42,356 --> 01:04:43,923
AND THEN IT
BECOMES BIGGER,

1328
01:04:43,967 --> 01:04:46,186
AND THAT'S THE TECHNIQUE
THAT THEY'RE USING.

1329
01:04:46,230 --> 01:04:48,493
BACK IN 1970,

1330
01:04:48,536 --> 01:04:51,757
AT A LITTLE PIZZA PARLOR
DOWN ON GREENVILLE AVENUE,

1331
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:57,328
NORMA McCORVEY
MET SARAH WEDDINGTON
AND LINDA COFFEE,

1332
01:04:57,371 --> 01:05:01,158
AND THERE WAS
THE BEGINNINGS OF
ROE VERSUS WADE.

1333
01:05:01,201 --> 01:05:03,421
IN AUSTIN, WHAT
WAS HAPPENING WAS THAT

1334
01:05:03,464 --> 01:05:06,119
THE LAW WAS THAT
ABORTION WAS ILLEGAL

1335
01:05:06,163 --> 01:05:08,513
EXCEPT TO SAVE
THE LIFE OF THE WOMAN.

1336
01:05:08,556 --> 01:05:11,559
NO ONE REALLY KNEW
WHAT THAT MEANT,

1337
01:05:11,603 --> 01:05:14,649
AND SO DOCTORS
SIMPLY WOULD NOT
PERFORM PROCEDURES,

1338
01:05:14,693 --> 01:05:17,043
BECAUSE THEY WERE
AFRAID THAT THEY
WOULD BE PROSECUTED

1339
01:05:17,087 --> 01:05:19,306
AND CERTAINLY LOSE
THEIR MEDICAL LICENSES.

1340
01:05:19,350 --> 01:05:21,569
THERE WAS A MAJOR CASE...

1341
01:05:21,613 --> 01:05:25,095
IT IS PROBABLY THE
MOST IMPORTANT CASE
BEFORE ROE VERSUS WADE

1342
01:05:25,138 --> 01:05:28,054
IN OUR AMERICAN LEGAL
HISTORY OF PRIVACY...

1343
01:05:28,098 --> 01:05:31,579
AND IT WAS A CASE
THAT SAID THERE IS
A RIGHT OF PRIVACY,

1344
01:05:31,623 --> 01:05:35,844
SUCH THAT INDIVIDUALS
HAVE THE RIGHT TO DECIDE

1345
01:05:35,888 --> 01:05:38,673
WHETHER TO BEAR
OR BEGAT A CHILD.

1346
01:05:38,717 --> 01:05:41,981
WE BEGAN BY FILING
A CASE IN DALLAS.

1347
01:05:42,025 --> 01:05:44,331
I HAD ASKED ONE
OF THE PEOPLE IN
LAW SCHOOL WITH ME,

1348
01:05:44,375 --> 01:05:46,507
A WOMAN NAMED LINDA COFFEE,
TO BE CO-COUNSEL.

1349
01:05:46,551 --> 01:05:48,988
WE HAD FOUND A MARRIED
COUPLE IN DALLAS

1350
01:05:49,032 --> 01:05:50,598
WHO WERE WILLING
TO BE PLAINTIFFS

1351
01:05:50,642 --> 01:05:54,037
AND WE HAD FOUND AN
UNMARRIED PREGNANT WOMAN,

1352
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,387
WHOM WE CALL JANE ROE.

1353
01:05:56,430 --> 01:06:01,870
I SIGNED AN AFFIDAVIT
ON MARCH THE 7th OF 1970,

1354
01:06:01,914 --> 01:06:07,441
STATING THAT I WAS AN
UNMARRIED PREGNANT WOMAN

1355
01:06:07,485 --> 01:06:10,140
AND THAT I HAD SOUGHT
TO GET A LEGAL ABORTION

1356
01:06:10,183 --> 01:06:12,403
HERE IN THE STATE
OF TEXAS, AND...

1357
01:06:12,446 --> 01:06:14,927
BUT BECAUSE OF THE
TEXAS STATUTE ON ABORTION,

1358
01:06:14,971 --> 01:06:16,494
I COULD NOT DO SO.

1359
01:06:16,537 --> 01:06:19,105
THE COURT CASE MOVED
TO WASHINGTON D.C.,

1360
01:06:19,149 --> 01:06:21,847
AND ON JANUARY 22nd, 1973,

1361
01:06:21,890 --> 01:06:25,459
ABORTION, THROUGH
ALL NINE MONTHS,

1362
01:06:25,503 --> 01:06:28,288
WAS MADE LEGAL
IN THIS NATION.

1363
01:06:28,332 --> 01:06:29,811
WHAT WE DIDN'T KNOW THEN

1364
01:06:29,855 --> 01:06:31,683
WAS THAT, AS WE
WERE CELEBRATING,

1365
01:06:31,726 --> 01:06:35,121
THOSE WHO WERE OPPOSED
TO ABORTION WERE THINKING

1366
01:06:35,165 --> 01:06:38,646
ABOUT HOW THEY COULD EVENTUALLY
DEFEAT THAT VICTORY.

1367
01:06:38,690 --> 01:06:41,998
SOMEONE COME BY AND THEY
BLEW OUT OUR FRONT WINDOWS.

1368
01:06:42,041 --> 01:06:44,435
THEY DROVE DOWN
THE STREET,

1369
01:06:44,478 --> 01:06:45,827
THEY TURNED AROUND,
THEY CAME BACK,

1370
01:06:45,871 --> 01:06:49,222
THEY BLEW OUT THE
BACK WINDSHIELD OF MY CAR,

1371
01:06:49,266 --> 01:06:51,485
PLUS THE STORM DOOR.

1372
01:06:51,529 --> 01:06:54,097
I'VE BEEN HARASSED
ON THE TELEPHONE.

1373
01:06:54,140 --> 01:06:56,664
I'VE BEEN HARASSED
IN GROCERY STORES,
DEPARTMENT STORES,

1374
01:06:56,708 --> 01:07:01,278
ANYWHERE WHERE YOU FIND
THE GENERAL PUBLIC,

1375
01:07:01,321 --> 01:07:05,108
FOR MY STAND ON ABORTION.

1376
01:07:05,151 --> 01:07:08,981
I SPENT THE BETTER PART
OF 14 YEARS IN THIS HOUSE,

1377
01:07:09,025 --> 01:07:11,418
LOCKED UP,
AFRAID TO GO OUTSIDE.

1378
01:07:11,462 --> 01:07:14,943
ONE DAY I WAS WORKING
AT THIS... THIS GAY BAR

1379
01:07:14,987 --> 01:07:19,731
AND I JUST FELT LIKE
THERE WASN'T ANYTHING
FOR ME TO LIVE FOR.

1380
01:07:19,774 --> 01:07:22,647
SO I GOT OFF WORK EARLY,

1381
01:07:22,690 --> 01:07:24,823
I WENT TO MY APARTMENT,

1382
01:07:24,866 --> 01:07:29,523
AND I WOULD SIT AND I JUST
STARTED CUTTING, LIKE,

1383
01:07:29,567 --> 01:07:32,352
A QUARTER OF AN INCH
OF MY WRISTS AT A TIME.

1384
01:07:36,443 --> 01:07:38,924
MISS NORMA HAD COME OUT
WITH A BRAND NEW BOOK.

1385
01:07:38,967 --> 01:07:41,840
IT WAS...
IT WAS IN 1994.

1386
01:07:41,883 --> 01:07:43,537
IT WAS CALLED
"I AM ROE".

1387
01:07:43,581 --> 01:07:45,104
AND WE WENT DOWN

1388
01:07:45,148 --> 01:07:48,281
WHERE MISS NORMA WAS DOING
A BOOKSELLING AND...

1389
01:07:48,325 --> 01:07:51,154
AND SHE WAS
SIGNING HER BOOKS

1390
01:07:51,197 --> 01:07:53,852
IN A LITTLE CAFE
ON McKINNEY AVENUE,

1391
01:07:53,895 --> 01:07:56,072
AND WE CONFRONTED
HER THERE

1392
01:07:56,115 --> 01:07:58,291
WITH WHAT WE FELT LIKE
THAT SHE HAD DONE.

1393
01:07:58,335 --> 01:08:01,773
AND I CAN REMEMBER SAYING,
"NORMA McCORVEY,

1394
01:08:01,816 --> 01:08:03,601
YOU OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED

1395
01:08:03,644 --> 01:08:06,821
THAT YOU HAVE CAUSED AND
BEEN THE CAUSE OF THE DEATH

1396
01:08:06,865 --> 01:08:10,390
OF OVER 35 MILLION
LITTLE BABY BOYS AND GIRLS."

1397
01:08:10,434 --> 01:08:13,959
AND I KNEW WHEN
I SAW THOSE WORDS
POUR INTO HER HEART,

1398
01:08:14,002 --> 01:08:15,917
I KNEW THAT
I HAD HURT HER

1399
01:08:15,961 --> 01:08:19,007
AND I KNEW THAT
THERE WAS SOMETHING
THAT I HAD TO DO.

1400
01:08:19,051 --> 01:08:20,618
ONE THURSDAY MORNING,
I WAS SITTING HERE

1401
01:08:20,661 --> 01:08:24,317
AND CONNIE CALLED ME
FROM WORK AND...

1402
01:08:24,361 --> 01:08:26,189
'CAUSE WE WORKED AT THE
SAME ABORTION CLINIC.

1403
01:08:26,232 --> 01:08:28,887
AND SHE SAYS,
"YOU'LL NEVER GUESS

1404
01:08:28,930 --> 01:08:30,497
WHO'S MOVING IN
NEXT DOOR."

1405
01:08:30,541 --> 01:08:32,804
AND I SAID, "WHO?"
AND SHE SAYS, "GUESS."

1406
01:08:32,847 --> 01:08:35,415
SO I SAID, "OKAY,
ROBERT REDFORD AND...

1407
01:08:35,459 --> 01:08:38,592
I DON'T KNOW,
WOODY ALLEN."

1408
01:08:38,636 --> 01:08:41,029
SHE SAID, NO, THAT IT WAS
OPERATION RESCUE.

1409
01:08:41,073 --> 01:08:45,382
OPERATION RESCUE IS A
PRO-LIFE ORGANIZATION

1410
01:08:45,425 --> 01:08:47,732
THAT WANTS TO ABOLISH
ROE VERSUS WADE

1411
01:08:47,775 --> 01:08:49,821
AND MAKE ABORTION ILLEGAL.

1412
01:08:49,864 --> 01:08:51,779
GOD PROVIDENTIALLY
WORKED IT OUT

1413
01:08:51,823 --> 01:08:54,608
THAT WE MOVED RIGHT IN
NEXT DOOR TO HER.

1414
01:08:54,652 --> 01:08:56,349
I WAS A CRYSTAL CARRIER.

1415
01:08:56,393 --> 01:08:58,525
I CARRIED CRYSTALS,
I HAD MY PYRAMID,

1416
01:08:58,569 --> 01:09:00,875
I HAD MY LITTLE
FERTILITY GODDESSES.

1417
01:09:00,919 --> 01:09:04,618
I HAD AMULETS THAT
I WORE AROUND MY
ANKLES AND MY WAIST.

1418
01:09:08,666 --> 01:09:11,277
AND FLIP TOLD ME THAT
I DIDN'T NEED THOSE THINGS.

1419
01:09:11,321 --> 01:09:12,844
IF I...

1420
01:09:12,887 --> 01:09:14,498
IF I WOULD JUST
BELIEVE IN JESUS

1421
01:09:14,541 --> 01:09:17,544
THAT ALL THINGS
WOULD BE GOOD FOR ME.

1422
01:09:17,588 --> 01:09:21,766
AND WE WERE STILL
PRETTY MUCH AT SWORDS
WITH EACH OTHER,

1423
01:09:21,809 --> 01:09:23,507
EXCEPT FOR ONE THING,

1424
01:09:23,550 --> 01:09:26,205
AND THAT THING
WAS THAT I HAD STARTED

1425
01:09:26,249 --> 01:09:28,686
GOING OVER TO THEIR OFFICE
AND GOING INSIDE.

1426
01:09:28,729 --> 01:09:32,864
AND IT ALWAYS SEEMED
SO PEACEFUL INSIDE.

1427
01:09:32,907 --> 01:09:35,606
I MEAN, IT ALWAYS
SEEMED LIKE THEY
WERE ALWAYS SO HAPPY

1428
01:09:35,649 --> 01:09:38,870
AND THEY WERE
JUST... FRIENDLY.

1429
01:09:38,913 --> 01:09:40,698
AND NORMA BEGAN
TO TRUST US.

1430
01:09:40,741 --> 01:09:42,787
SHE BEGAN TO LIKE
COMING OVER TO THIS OFFICE

1431
01:09:42,830 --> 01:09:44,658
AND WE REALLY BEGAN
TO ENJOY HAVING HER HERE.

1432
01:09:44,702 --> 01:09:47,095
AND SHE BECAME
FAST FRIENDS

1433
01:09:47,139 --> 01:09:48,793
WITH TWO OF THE YOUNG GIRLS
THAT ARE ALWAYS HERE,

1434
01:09:48,836 --> 01:09:51,187
EMILY AND... CHELSEA.

1435
01:09:51,230 --> 01:09:54,190
IF... IF YOU COULD JUST
MEET EMILY, YOU WOULD...

1436
01:09:54,233 --> 01:09:57,715
YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT I'M
SAYING. SHE HAS THIS...

1437
01:09:57,758 --> 01:10:02,459
THIS GENTLE CHARACTER
ABOUT HER.

1438
01:10:02,502 --> 01:10:06,245
AND SHE'S VERY SMART.

1439
01:10:06,289 --> 01:10:10,554
SHE READS ABOUT
100 BOOKS A YEAR.

1440
01:10:10,597 --> 01:10:13,209
SHE LOVES HER PARENTS.

1441
01:10:13,252 --> 01:10:15,907
SHE... SHE
LOVES JESUS CHRIST

1442
01:10:15,950 --> 01:10:18,692
AND SHE LOVES GOD.

1443
01:10:18,736 --> 01:10:22,653
SHE HAS THAT PURITY
OF SOUL THAT...

1444
01:10:22,696 --> 01:10:24,350
THAT MAKES IT ALL
WORTH LIVING.

1445
01:10:24,394 --> 01:10:26,396
SHE... I DON'T
KNOW, SHE...

1446
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:27,614
SHE'S JUST
A LITTLE EVANGELIST.

1447
01:10:27,658 --> 01:10:29,355
WHAT CAN I SAY?

1448
01:10:29,399 --> 01:10:31,270
Benham:
THIS IS THE BUSINESS

1449
01:10:31,314 --> 01:10:33,141
THAT OUR
LORD JESUS CHRIST
IS IN.

1450
01:10:33,185 --> 01:10:35,318
HE IS A FRIEND
OF SINNERS.

1451
01:10:35,361 --> 01:10:38,843
AND HE SAVED AN
OLD DRUNKEN SALOON
KEEPER LIKE MYSELF

1452
01:10:38,886 --> 01:10:42,847
AND SET HIM ON A ROCK,
GAVE ME A BRAND NEW LIFE,

1453
01:10:42,890 --> 01:10:44,849
AND NOW THE LIFE I LIVE
IS NO LONGER LIVED FOR ME,

1454
01:10:44,892 --> 01:10:46,633
BUT FOR HIM.
AND THE GIFTS THAT I HAVE

1455
01:10:46,677 --> 01:10:49,201
AREN'T MADE FOR ME
TO HAVE A WONDERFUL MINISTRY

1456
01:10:49,245 --> 01:10:51,508
AND MAKE A LOT OF MONEY,
BUT ARE GIVEN TO ME

1457
01:10:51,551 --> 01:10:53,118
THAT I CAN POUR THEM OUT

1458
01:10:53,161 --> 01:10:55,251
THAT OTHERS MIGHT HAVE A
FIRE BURNING IN THEIR HEART

1459
01:10:55,294 --> 01:10:56,687
FOR THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.

1460
01:10:56,730 --> 01:10:58,950
AND NOW HE'S
SAVED MISS NORMA.

1461
01:10:58,993 --> 01:11:01,213
AND MISS NORMA'S
LIFE IS NOW...

1462
01:11:01,257 --> 01:11:03,650
SHE WAS BOUGHT WITH A PRICE,
SHE'S NOT HER OWN.

1463
01:11:03,694 --> 01:11:05,826
IT ISN'T "MY RIGHTS,
MY BODY, MY CHOICE".

1464
01:11:05,870 --> 01:11:09,090
IT'S NOT MY WILL,
BUT "THY WILL BE DONE".

1465
01:11:09,134 --> 01:11:11,571
CONNIE AND I, WE'RE
SITTING HERE ONE NIGHT

1466
01:11:11,615 --> 01:11:16,097
AND WE WERE
DISCUSSING ABORTION.

1467
01:11:16,141 --> 01:11:18,274
CONNIE, WHEN SHE WORKED
AT THE ABORTION CLINIC,

1468
01:11:18,317 --> 01:11:21,015
WORKED IN THE BACK
IN PROCEDURE ROOM.

1469
01:11:21,059 --> 01:11:23,366
I'D BEEN THERE FOUR OR
FIVE MONTHS BEFORE I LEFT

1470
01:11:23,409 --> 01:11:25,629
AND I WAS TELLING
NORMA THAT...

1471
01:11:25,672 --> 01:11:30,416
THAT I WAS ASSISTING
THE DOCTOR AND THAT
THEY WERE REAL BABIES.

1472
01:11:30,460 --> 01:11:32,984
I SAID I COULD EVEN
TELL THE SEX.

1473
01:11:33,027 --> 01:11:34,725
I SAID, ONE OF THEM
FELL IN MY HAND

1474
01:11:34,768 --> 01:11:36,335
AND, I SAID,
AND IT SCARED ME.

1475
01:11:36,379 --> 01:11:38,337
IT SCARED ME BECAUSE
I DIDN'T WANT TO TOUCH IT

1476
01:11:38,381 --> 01:11:41,558
BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO FEEL
THAT FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.

1477
01:11:41,601 --> 01:11:44,038
I THOUGHT, WELL, YOU KNOW,
I'VE NEVER GONE

1478
01:11:44,082 --> 01:11:46,127
AND I'VE NEVER LOOKED
IN THE FREEZER, YOU KNOW.

1479
01:11:46,171 --> 01:11:49,043
THAT'S WHERE THEY
KEPT ALL THE BABIES
THAT THEY ABORTED.

1480
01:11:49,087 --> 01:11:51,394
[ Sniffle ]
UM...

1481
01:11:51,437 --> 01:11:53,178
SO I WENT
AND GOT THE KEY

1482
01:11:53,221 --> 01:11:54,614
AND I UNLOCKED IT

1483
01:11:54,658 --> 01:11:58,183
AND... THEY
WERE BABIES, MAN.

1484
01:12:05,059 --> 01:12:08,280
THEY WERE LITTLE
HUMAN BABIES...

1485
01:12:08,324 --> 01:12:12,458
THAT HAD BEEN MUTILATED.

1486
01:12:12,502 --> 01:12:15,635
AND IT HURT ME.
IT HURT MY HEART

1487
01:12:15,679 --> 01:12:17,898
TO THINK THAT...

1488
01:12:17,942 --> 01:12:21,032
I WAS THE ONE
THAT WAS RESPONSIBLE

1489
01:12:21,075 --> 01:12:24,862
FOR ALL THE DEAD BABIES.

1490
01:12:24,905 --> 01:12:28,866
THEY SAID THAT IN ORDER
FOR ME TO FIND GOD

1491
01:12:28,909 --> 01:12:31,477
OR TO ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST
INTO MY HEART,

1492
01:12:31,521 --> 01:12:36,352
THAT I WOULD HAVE TO GO
THROUGH ANOTHER PROCESS

1493
01:12:36,395 --> 01:12:38,832
OF CHANGING MY OPINION
ON ABORTION.

1494
01:12:38,876 --> 01:12:42,140
AND I LOOKED
AT BOTH OF THEM

1495
01:12:42,183 --> 01:12:44,534
AND I TOLD THEM THAT
THAT HAD ALREADY HAPPENED.

1496
01:12:44,577 --> 01:12:47,493
THERE'S REALLY NEVER
A DAY THAT GOES BY

1497
01:12:47,537 --> 01:12:52,846
THAT WE DON'T THINK
OF HOW WE CAN OVERTURN
ROE VERSUS WADE.

1498
01:12:52,890 --> 01:12:54,195
Benham:
I JUST BELIEVE

1499
01:12:54,239 --> 01:12:56,067
THAT WHAT BEGAN
HERE IN DALLAS

1500
01:12:56,110 --> 01:12:58,765
AND BECAME ROE VS. WADE
ULTIMATELY

1501
01:12:58,809 --> 01:13:01,464
IN WASHINGTON, D.C.,
ON JANUARY 22nd,

1502
01:13:01,507 --> 01:13:04,118
IS NOW BEING SUMMARILY
DISMANTLED

1503
01:13:04,162 --> 01:13:07,426
AS WE'RE WATCHING
PERSON AFTER PERSON
MEETING THE LORD.

1504
01:13:07,470 --> 01:13:08,819
AS WE'RE WATCHING
MOTHER AFTER MOTHER

1505
01:13:08,862 --> 01:13:11,474
CHOOSING LIFE
RATHER THAN DEATH

1506
01:13:11,517 --> 01:13:13,301
FOR THEIR LITTLE
BABY BOYS AND GIRLS.

1507
01:13:13,345 --> 01:13:14,955
AND ALL OF THIS IS DUE

1508
01:13:14,999 --> 01:13:17,175
TO THE POWER OF THE GOSPEL
OF JESUS CHRIST.

1509
01:13:17,218 --> 01:13:19,873
AND WE BELIEVE
THAT THE BEST NEWS OF ALL

1510
01:13:19,917 --> 01:13:24,182
IS THAT FINALLY
AMERICA IS TURNING
BACK TO ALMIGHTY GOD.

1511
01:13:24,225 --> 01:13:26,663
AND WE'RE STOPPING
HEWING OUT THE
BROKEN CISTERNS

1512
01:13:26,706 --> 01:13:28,447
AND THE WELFARE SYSTEMS

1513
01:13:28,491 --> 01:13:31,145
THAT REALLY AREN'T
GOING TO BRING ANY
HEALING TO THIS LAND.

1514
01:13:31,189 --> 01:13:33,670
[ Cheering ]

1515
01:13:35,454 --> 01:13:38,152
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
NORMA McCORVEY.

1516
01:13:38,196 --> 01:13:40,894
[ Applause ]

1517
01:13:47,248 --> 01:13:51,035
I'M VERY HONORED
TO BE HERE WITH
MR. BUCHANAN

1518
01:13:51,078 --> 01:13:54,212
AND HIS WIFE AND JANE,
AND JUST EVERYONE HERE.

1519
01:13:54,255 --> 01:13:56,127
I MEAN, I'M...
I'M VERY STAR STRUCK.

1520
01:13:56,170 --> 01:13:57,824
UM...
[ Laughing ]

1521
01:13:57,868 --> 01:14:01,001
I'M DOWN HERE IN
CALIFORNIA, IN SAN DIEGO,

1522
01:14:01,045 --> 01:14:04,309
WITH OPERATION RESCUE
NATIONAL, THAT'S WHERE
I'M A MISSIONARY.

1523
01:14:04,352 --> 01:14:06,659
AND I'M A SERVANT
OF CHRIST NOW.

1524
01:14:06,703 --> 01:14:08,400
[ Applause/cheering ]

1525
01:14:11,229 --> 01:14:13,753
I THINK THAT THE
PRO-CHOICE COMMUNITY

1526
01:14:13,797 --> 01:14:15,625
IS OFTEN RELUCTANT
TO ADMIT IT,

1527
01:14:15,668 --> 01:14:18,497
BUT THE FACT
IS THAT THE...

1528
01:14:18,541 --> 01:14:21,369
THE VIOLENCE HAS
BEEN EFFECTIVE

1529
01:14:21,413 --> 01:14:23,546
IN EXACTLY THE WAY IT WAS
INTENDED TO BE EFFECTIVE.

1530
01:14:23,589 --> 01:14:26,853
MANY ABORTION PROVIDERS
AND THEIR STAFF

1531
01:14:26,897 --> 01:14:31,510
HAVE DROPPED OUT OF BUSINESS
BECAUSE OF THE THREATS,

1532
01:14:31,554 --> 01:14:33,512
THE INTIMIDATION,
THE HARASSMENT,

1533
01:14:33,556 --> 01:14:37,081
THE ONGOING THREAT
TO THEIR LIVES

1534
01:14:37,124 --> 01:14:39,910
AND THE LIVES OF THEIR
FAMILIES AND THEIR STAFF.

1535
01:14:39,953 --> 01:14:45,655
MANY DOCTORS HAVE
DROPPED THE PROVISION
OF ABORTION SERVICES

1536
01:14:45,698 --> 01:14:47,265
AS PART OF THEIR PRACTICE,

1537
01:14:47,308 --> 01:14:48,832
OR DROPPED OUT
OF THE PRACTICE OF
MEDICINE ALTOGETHER

1538
01:14:48,875 --> 01:14:50,573
BECAUSE OF THE MURDER
OF THEIR COLLEAGUES.

1539
01:14:50,616 --> 01:14:52,400
WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR

1540
01:14:52,444 --> 01:14:55,403
WAS ONE OF
THESE REALLY RADICAL,

1541
01:14:55,447 --> 01:14:59,930
I ASSUME, CHRISTIAN
RIGHT GROUPS GOT...

1542
01:14:59,973 --> 01:15:01,540
BOUGHT A MAILING LIST

1543
01:15:01,584 --> 01:15:04,021
FROM THE AMERICAN
MEDICAL ASSOCIATION

1544
01:15:04,064 --> 01:15:06,719
UNDER THE GUISE OF
BEING SOME OTHER KIND
OF GROUP, I ASSUME.

1545
01:15:06,763 --> 01:15:09,200
AND THEY HAD THE NAMES
AND ADDRESSES

1546
01:15:09,243 --> 01:15:12,333
OF EVERY SINGLE MEDICAL
STUDENT IN THIS COUNTRY,

1547
01:15:12,377 --> 01:15:13,552
AND THEY SENT OUT
A MAILING.

1548
01:15:13,596 --> 01:15:15,685
AND IT WAS A REALLY
AMAZING...

1549
01:15:15,728 --> 01:15:17,121
I WISH I HAD IT. I...

1550
01:15:17,164 --> 01:15:20,385
IT WAS A WHOLE,
LIKE, CARTOON BOOKLET

1551
01:15:20,428 --> 01:15:22,518
AND IT HAD
ALL THESE CARTOONS,

1552
01:15:22,561 --> 01:15:27,087
ANTI-CHOICE AND
ANTI-ABORTIONIST CARTOONS

1553
01:15:27,131 --> 01:15:29,481
AND JOKES THAT WERE
REALLY UNBELIEVABLE.

1554
01:15:29,525 --> 01:15:31,396
I MEAN LIKE,
JUST A LOT OF...

1555
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:33,267
TALKING ABOUT
KILLING PEOPLE

1556
01:15:33,311 --> 01:15:36,488
AND REALLY JUST VILE,
REALLY RACIST...

1557
01:15:36,532 --> 01:15:37,620
THE WORST ONE
WAS THE ONE,

1558
01:15:37,663 --> 01:15:38,751
"IF YOU WERE IN
A ROOM WITH...

1559
01:15:38,795 --> 01:15:40,666
WITH HITLER..."

1560
01:15:40,710 --> 01:15:42,450
I CAN'T REMEMBER
WHO THE OTHER
PERSON WAS.

1561
01:15:42,494 --> 01:15:44,844
LIKE, SOME OTHER
PERSON LIKE HITLER
AND AN ABORTIONIST,

1562
01:15:44,888 --> 01:15:47,499
"AND YOU HAD A GUN
WITH ONLY TWO BULLETS,
WHAT WOULD YOU DO?"

1563
01:15:47,543 --> 01:15:49,893
AND THE ANSWER
WAS, "SHOOT THE
ABORTIONIST TWICE."

1564
01:15:49,936 --> 01:15:52,156
AND THIS WAS BEING
SENT TO MEDICAL
STUDENTS.

1565
01:15:52,199 --> 01:15:54,724
THERE'S A... A
VERY BIG PROBLEM

1566
01:15:54,767 --> 01:15:56,813
WITH ACCESS TO ABORTION.

1567
01:15:56,856 --> 01:16:00,817
THERE AREN'T A LOT
OF PEOPLE WHO DO
ABORTIONS ANYMORE

1568
01:16:00,860 --> 01:16:02,558
AND THE... THE
NUMBERS ARE DWINDLING,

1569
01:16:02,601 --> 01:16:04,385
AND ONE OF THE BIG
REASONS IS BECAUSE
PEOPLE AREN'T TRAINED.

1570
01:16:04,429 --> 01:16:08,085
ABORTIONS ARE AT THEIR
LOWEST LEVEL AS THEY
HAVE BEEN SINCE 1976.

1571
01:16:08,128 --> 01:16:12,611
THERE ARE 527 FEWER
ABORTION MILLS TODAY
THAN THERE WERE IN 1987.

1572
01:16:12,655 --> 01:16:16,441
ONLY 11% OF THE MEDICAL
TRAINING FACILITIES

1573
01:16:16,484 --> 01:16:18,225
ARE TEACHING
THE ABORTION PROCEDURE.

1574
01:16:18,269 --> 01:16:21,707
THAT'S DOWN
FROM 56% IN 1986.

1575
01:16:21,751 --> 01:16:23,840
THERE ARE FEWER
ABORTIONISTS

1576
01:16:23,883 --> 01:16:25,929
DOING AND PRACTICING
THIS GRISLY TRADE.

1577
01:16:25,972 --> 01:16:29,019
AND THERE ARE
NO YOUNG DOCTORS

1578
01:16:29,062 --> 01:16:32,936
THAT WANT TO PUT THEIR
WHOLE MEDICAL CAREER
ON HOLD FOR ABORTION.

1579
01:16:32,979 --> 01:16:36,679
IT DOESN'T MATTER
IF WE'VE WON THE RIGHT
TO LEGAL ABORTION.

1580
01:16:36,722 --> 01:16:39,595
IF THERE IS NO
PHYSICIAN THAT WILL
PROVIDE AN ABORTION,

1581
01:16:39,638 --> 01:16:42,859
WOMEN WILL BE BACK
WHERE WE WERE IN THE '50s

1582
01:16:42,902 --> 01:16:47,951
WHERE THE NUMBER OF
DEATHS FROM ILLEGALLY
INDUCED ABORTIONS

1583
01:16:47,994 --> 01:16:50,693
WAS THE HIGHEST
DEATH RATE.

1584
01:16:50,736 --> 01:16:54,174
IT WAS THE CAUSE
OF THE MOST DEATHS

1585
01:16:54,218 --> 01:16:57,308
OF WOMEN IN THEIR
REPRODUCTIVE AGE... AGES.

1586
01:16:57,351 --> 01:16:59,702
FROM THE AGES
OF 15 TO 45.

1587
01:16:59,745 --> 01:17:01,704
THAT IS WHAT
WOMEN DIED OF

1588
01:17:01,747 --> 01:17:03,706
MORE FREQUENTLY
THAN HEART ATTACKS
OR SMOKING

1589
01:17:03,749 --> 01:17:06,578
OR CAR ACCIDENTS
OR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE,

1590
01:17:06,622 --> 01:17:09,189
THAT WAS THE PREDOMINANT
CAUSE OF DEATH.

1591
01:17:09,233 --> 01:17:12,932
THERE IS NOTHING MORE
DANGEROUS TO A DEMOCRACY

1592
01:17:12,976 --> 01:17:20,592
THAN WHEN PEOPLE
TAKE THEIR RIGHTS,
THEIR LIBERTIES,

1593
01:17:20,636 --> 01:17:22,333
THEIR FREEDOM
OF RELIGION,

1594
01:17:22,376 --> 01:17:24,901
THEIR FREEDOM OF SPEECH,
THEIR RIGHT TO CHOOSE,

1595
01:17:24,944 --> 01:17:26,380
WHATEVER FUNDAMENTAL
RIGHT IT IS,

1596
01:17:26,424 --> 01:17:27,730
THEY TAKE IT FOR GRANTED.

1597
01:17:27,773 --> 01:17:30,080
AND THAT THEY DO
NOT PARTICIPATE

1598
01:17:30,123 --> 01:17:33,431
IN THE DEMOCRACY IN
PRESERVING THOSE LIBERTIES.

1599
01:17:33,474 --> 01:17:36,434
BECAUSE THERE WILL
ALWAYS BE FORCES AT WORK

1600
01:17:36,477 --> 01:17:38,436
TO TRY TO TAKE THOSE
LIBERTIES AWAY.

1601
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:44,834
AND RIGHT NOW THERE IS A
STRONG ULTRA-CONSERVATIVE,

1602
01:17:44,877 --> 01:17:47,271
RELIGIOUS, FUNDAMENTALIST
MOVEMENT IN THIS COUNTRY

1603
01:17:47,314 --> 01:17:49,621
LED BY GROUPS,
LIKE PAT ROBERTSON...

1604
01:17:49,665 --> 01:17:51,884
HIS GROUP,
CHRISTIAN COALITION,

1605
01:17:51,928 --> 01:17:55,018
THAT ARE DIS...
JUST DETERMINED

1606
01:17:55,061 --> 01:17:58,369
TO RETURN WOMEN TO THEIR
BIBLICALLY ORDAINED ROLE,

1607
01:17:58,412 --> 01:18:03,156
AS THEY SEE IT, WHICH IS TO,
BY AND LARGE, PROCREATE.

1608
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,638
AND NOT TO BE EQUAL PARTNERS
WITH MEN IN THE SOCIETY,

1609
01:18:06,682 --> 01:18:08,727
BUT BE UNDER
THE CONTROL OF MEN.

1610
01:18:08,771 --> 01:18:12,600
WE MUST SPEND OUR TIME
EDUCATING THE GRASSROOTS,

1611
01:18:12,644 --> 01:18:15,865
INSPIRING THEM TO
INVOLVE THEMSELVES.

1612
01:18:15,908 --> 01:18:19,042
[ Song accompanied
by guitar ]

1613
01:18:23,350 --> 01:18:25,439
♪ WHERE YOU BEEN SO LONG?

1614
01:18:25,483 --> 01:18:27,441
♪ SINGING THE GOOD SONG

1615
01:18:27,485 --> 01:18:31,619
[ Indistinct ]

1616
01:18:31,663 --> 01:18:35,232
♪ HE BOUGHT A VAN
WITH ALL HE HAD ♪

1617
01:18:35,275 --> 01:18:39,410
♪ AND SET ABOUT
TO SPREAD THE WORD ♪

1618
01:18:39,453 --> 01:18:43,719
♪ WHEN JUST THE MENTION
OF PREVENTION ♪

1619
01:18:43,762 --> 01:18:46,678
♪ WAS ILLEGAL TO BE HEARD

1620
01:18:46,722 --> 01:18:48,636
Man:
FOR MORE YEARS THAN
I CARE TO REMEMBER

1621
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,988
I BECAME INVOLVED
IN THE STRUGGLE FOR
REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM.

1622
01:18:52,031 --> 01:18:54,947
AND THAT DATES BACK
TO 1963.

1623
01:18:54,991 --> 01:18:57,471
I WAS CLINICAL
DIRECTOR FOR A DRUG
COMPANY CALLED EMCO,

1624
01:18:57,515 --> 01:18:58,995
WHICH MAKES
BIRTH CONTROL PRODUCTS.

1625
01:18:59,038 --> 01:19:01,171
AND WHILE AT A HOSPITAL
IN NEW YORK CITY,

1626
01:19:01,214 --> 01:19:02,825
I HEARD A WOMAN SCREAM.

1627
01:19:02,868 --> 01:19:04,957
AND, LIKE ANYBODY
ELSE, I RAN INTO
THE HOSPITAL CORRIDOR

1628
01:19:05,001 --> 01:19:06,742
TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON.

1629
01:19:06,785 --> 01:19:09,919
AND I SAW A WOMAN
COVERED WITH BLOOD
FROM THE WAIST DOWN

1630
01:19:09,962 --> 01:19:11,398
AND SHE WAS STAGGERING.

1631
01:19:11,442 --> 01:19:13,661
AND OBVIOUSLY
I RACED TO HELP HER,

1632
01:19:13,705 --> 01:19:16,316
AND AS I CAUGHT HER...
SHE SLUMPED TO THE GROUND...

1633
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,189
I NOTICED SHE HAD
AN 8-INCH PIECE OF
WIRE COAT HANGER

1634
01:19:19,232 --> 01:19:22,496
EMBEDDED IN HER UTERUS.
AND THAT WOMAN DIED.

1635
01:19:22,540 --> 01:19:25,673
AND IT SO ANGERED ME
THAT WE LIVED IN A NATION

1636
01:19:25,717 --> 01:19:28,328
THAT NOT ONLY DID
THIS POOR WOMAN NOT HAVE
THE RIGHT TO AN ABORTION,

1637
01:19:28,372 --> 01:19:30,809
BUT MANY OF YOU VIEWERS
HAVE NO IDEA

1638
01:19:30,853 --> 01:19:32,855
THAT SHE DIDN'T
EVEN HAVE THE RIGHT
TO BIRTH CONTROL.

1639
01:19:32,898 --> 01:19:35,727
IN 1963, IN MOST PARTS
OF THE UNITED STATES,

1640
01:19:35,771 --> 01:19:37,598
BIRTH CONTROL
WAS A CRIME.

1641
01:19:37,642 --> 01:19:38,904
AND THIS WAS THE
BOARD THAT SHOWED

1642
01:19:38,948 --> 01:19:41,037
VARIOUS BIRTH CONTROL
AND ABORTION DEVICES.

1643
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,039
WHEN ABORTIONS
WERE ILLEGAL,

1644
01:19:43,082 --> 01:19:44,823
A WOMAN WOULD TAKE
A DOUCHING BAG

1645
01:19:44,867 --> 01:19:48,609
AND FILL IT WITH LYSOL
OR BLEACH OR TURPENTINE.

1646
01:19:48,653 --> 01:19:50,873
OR, INDEED, THEY
WOULD USE A CATHETER

1647
01:19:50,916 --> 01:19:53,049
AND FILL IT
WITH SALT WATER,

1648
01:19:53,092 --> 01:19:55,878
THINKING THAT A HYPERTONIC
SOLUTION MIGHT ABORT THEM.

1649
01:19:55,921 --> 01:19:57,488
AND THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THAT

1650
01:19:57,531 --> 01:19:59,969
IF THEY WOULD SQUEEZE
FROM THE TOP OF THIS SYRINGE,

1651
01:20:00,012 --> 01:20:02,449
IT WOULD FORCE AIR
INTO A MAJOR BLOOD VESSEL

1652
01:20:02,493 --> 01:20:04,843
AND THE PERSON WOULD DIE
OF AN AIR EMBOLISM.

1653
01:20:04,887 --> 01:20:08,281
OR WHEN THEY TOOK THE
DOUCHING BAG AND THEY
FILLED IT WITH SOAP,

1654
01:20:08,325 --> 01:20:11,502
THEY DIDN'T REALIZE
THAT THE BODY COULD ABSORB
THE FAT FROM THE SOAP,

1655
01:20:11,545 --> 01:20:14,026
AND THAT WOULD BE
A FAT EMBOLISM.

1656
01:20:14,070 --> 01:20:16,028
BUT MORE OFTEN THAN NOT,

1657
01:20:16,072 --> 01:20:19,075
THAT PEOPLE WOULD
VERY OFTEN TAKE A PIECE
OF WIRE COAT HANGER,

1658
01:20:19,118 --> 01:20:23,340
WRAP THE END OF IT
WITH ADHESIVE TAPE SO
IT WASN'T SO SHARP,

1659
01:20:23,383 --> 01:20:26,517
AND THE IDEA WAS TO GENTLY
PUSH IT INSIDE THE UTERUS

1660
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,345
AND SCRATCH THE WALL
OF THE UTERUS.

1661
01:20:28,388 --> 01:20:29,912
THE GOAL WAS NOT
TO DO THE ABORTION,

1662
01:20:29,955 --> 01:20:31,348
AS MUCH OF THE
PUBLIC THOUGHT.

1663
01:20:31,391 --> 01:20:33,263
THAT WASN'T THE GOAL
OF POOR PEOPLE.

1664
01:20:33,306 --> 01:20:35,569
THEIR GOAL WAS
TO INDUCE BLEEDING.

1665
01:20:35,613 --> 01:20:38,877
AND THEN IF THEY BLED,
THEY COULD RUSH TO A HOSPITAL

1666
01:20:38,921 --> 01:20:40,748
AND THE HOSPITAL
WOULD SAY, QUOTE,

1667
01:20:40,792 --> 01:20:43,186
"TO SAVE THE
PATIENT'S LIFE...
SHE CAME IN BLEEDING...

1668
01:20:43,229 --> 01:20:45,623
SHE HAD TO HAVE
THE ABORTION DONE."

1669
01:20:45,666 --> 01:20:47,581
BUT HERE'S THE KICKER.

1670
01:20:47,625 --> 01:20:50,062
A LOT OF POOR PEOPLE
DIDN'T KNOW THE UTERUS
IS THE SIZE OF MY FIST

1671
01:20:50,106 --> 01:20:52,064
AND MAYBE HALF
AN INCH THICK.

1672
01:20:52,108 --> 01:20:54,458
SO IF THEY PUSHED THE
WIRE COAT HANGER TOO HARD,

1673
01:20:54,501 --> 01:20:56,460
PUSHED IT THROUGH
THE WALL OF THE UTERUS,

1674
01:20:56,503 --> 01:20:58,418
THE WOMAN WOULD
HEMORRHAGE TO DEATH.

1675
01:20:58,462 --> 01:21:01,160
NOW, THIS IS A RATHER
CONTROVERSIAL PICTURE,

1676
01:21:01,204 --> 01:21:02,858
BUT IT'S AN
ACCURATE PICTURE.

1677
01:21:02,901 --> 01:21:06,252
IT'S A PICTURE OF
A WOMAN WHO DIED,
FOUND IN A MOTEL ROOM,

1678
01:21:06,296 --> 01:21:10,387
WHO USED A COAT HANGER
OR PRIMITIVE TECHNIQUES

1679
01:21:10,430 --> 01:21:14,782
TO, IN EFFECT,
WHAT SHE THOUGHT,
WAS TO HAVE AN ABORTION.

1680
01:21:14,826 --> 01:21:17,742
♪ BLESSED WITH CHILD

1681
01:21:20,266 --> 01:21:22,051
♪ JUST A GIRL

1682
01:21:24,923 --> 01:21:27,143
♪ GOD HAS GIVEN ME

1683
01:21:29,319 --> 01:21:33,714
♪ ANOTHER CHANCE
AT POVERTY ♪

1684
01:21:35,412 --> 01:21:37,153
♪ CAN'T FEED
THE ONE I'VE GOT ♪

1685
01:21:39,416 --> 01:21:42,941
♪ SHE'S FEVERISH
AND COUGHS A LOT ♪

1686
01:21:44,247 --> 01:21:46,336
♪ GOD, TAKE IT BACK

1687
01:21:48,860 --> 01:21:53,038
♪ PLEASE, GOD,
TAKE IT BACK ♪

1688
01:21:53,082 --> 01:21:56,694
♪ GIRL WITH A BABY

1689
01:21:56,737 --> 01:22:00,567
♪ UNDER A TREE

1690
01:22:00,611 --> 01:22:04,832
♪ WATCH WHEN THE KNIFE
CUTS ME ♪

1691
01:22:07,661 --> 01:22:10,969
♪ GIRL WITH A BABY

1692
01:22:11,013 --> 01:22:14,146
♪ UNDER A TREE

1693
01:22:14,190 --> 01:22:15,452
[ Indistinct ]

1694
01:22:21,458 --> 01:22:24,591
HOW MANY BABIES ARE THERE
NOW THAT ARE UNLOVED?

1695
01:22:24,635 --> 01:22:26,898
THAT ARE NOT TAKEN CARE OF?

1696
01:22:26,942 --> 01:22:29,770
AND... AND WE DO
HAVE ABORTION RIGHT
NOW, YOU KNOW.

1697
01:22:29,814 --> 01:22:31,598
AND THERE ARE STILL...

1698
01:22:31,642 --> 01:22:34,079
I MEAN, WHO'S GOING TO TAKE
CARE OF THOSE CHILDREN?

1699
01:22:34,123 --> 01:22:36,734
ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO
ARE SO AGAINST ABORTION,

1700
01:22:36,777 --> 01:22:38,736
IF THEY WANT TO TAKE
ALL THOSE BABIES

1701
01:22:38,779 --> 01:22:41,391
AND BRING THEM UP AND...
AND LOVE THEM AND...

1702
01:22:41,434 --> 01:22:43,436
YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD
BE WONDERFUL.

1703
01:22:43,480 --> 01:22:45,177
ABSOLUTELY.
I MEAN, IN A
PERFECT WORLD,

1704
01:22:45,221 --> 01:22:47,614
THAT WOULD BE
THE MOST BEAUTIFUL THING.

1705
01:22:47,658 --> 01:22:49,834
BUT, AS IT IS,
IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

1706
01:22:49,877 --> 01:22:52,837
I MEAN, THESE FUNDAMENTALISTS
ARE THE SAME PEOPLE

1707
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,753
A LOT OF TIMES
WHO ARE BIGOTS,

1708
01:22:55,796 --> 01:22:59,713
WHO WOULD NEVER HAVE
A BLACK CHILD IN THEIR HOME.

1709
01:22:59,757 --> 01:23:01,802
RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE,

1710
01:23:01,846 --> 01:23:04,153
"WHY AREN'T THEY
ADOPTING ALL THE KIDS
OUT OF THE ORPHANAGES?"

1711
01:23:04,196 --> 01:23:05,589
IT'S JUST TERRIBLE.

1712
01:23:05,632 --> 01:23:08,331
WELL...
THESE PREGNANT WOMEN...

1713
01:23:08,374 --> 01:23:11,116
I MEAN, I SEE HOMELESS
PREGNANT WOMEN ON
THE STREET, YOU KNOW.

1714
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:14,076
GO PICK ONE UP,
TAKE HER HOME,
TAKE CARE OF HER.

1715
01:23:14,119 --> 01:23:16,992
DELIVER THE BABY,
KICK HER OUT. FINE.

1716
01:23:17,035 --> 01:23:18,994
[ Laughter ]

1717
01:23:19,037 --> 01:23:33,965
[ ♪♪♪ ]

1718
01:23:51,504 --> 01:23:54,768
UH... WHAT'S HIS NAME?

1719
01:23:54,812 --> 01:23:56,553
CLINTON?
BILL CLINTON?

1720
01:23:56,596 --> 01:23:59,295
UH... HE...

1721
01:23:59,338 --> 01:24:01,993
HE SAYS THAT SHE
SHOULD HAVE SEX

1722
01:24:02,037 --> 01:24:05,605
AND THAT SHE SHOULD
HAVE A CONDOM.

1723
01:24:05,649 --> 01:24:07,912
WHO ARE THESE RESPONSIBLE
PEOPLE IN OUR GOVERNMENT

1724
01:24:07,955 --> 01:24:09,696
TELLING THIS LITTLE CHILD

1725
01:24:09,740 --> 01:24:12,525
THAT THAT'S THE WAY SHE
SHOULD GO THROUGH LIFE?

1726
01:24:12,569 --> 01:24:15,137
THEY'RE LAYING A HORRIBLE TRIP
ON THIS LITTLE GIRL.

1727
01:24:15,180 --> 01:24:17,313
SHE'S ALREADY BORN.

1728
01:24:17,356 --> 01:24:18,618
THE UNBORN CHILDREN
DON'T EVEN STAND A CHANCE.

1729
01:24:18,662 --> 01:24:20,968
THEY KILL THEM.

1730
01:24:21,012 --> 01:24:22,709
WHERE... WHERE
HAS THE MENTALITY...

1731
01:24:22,753 --> 01:24:25,408
THEY'VE BEEN SEDUCED
BY SATAN INTO THIS MENTALITY

1732
01:24:25,451 --> 01:24:26,974
OF KILLING OUR CHILDREN,
FIRST OF ALL,

1733
01:24:27,018 --> 01:24:28,106
THEN KILLING OUR OLD PEOPLE,

1734
01:24:28,150 --> 01:24:30,108
AND THEN TELLING YOUNG
SPARKLING HERE

1735
01:24:30,152 --> 01:24:32,371
OF HOW SHE'S SUPPOSED
TO GO THROUGH LIFE CHOOSING,

1736
01:24:32,415 --> 01:24:34,895
HAVING A VIABLE LIFESTYLE.

1737
01:24:34,939 --> 01:24:36,549
IN THE 6th GRADE IN
CALIFORNIA THEY... THEY...

1738
01:24:36,593 --> 01:24:38,551
THEY HAVE "LIFT UP YOUR
DRESS" WEEK WHERE...

1739
01:24:38,595 --> 01:24:41,554
AND A YOUNG CHILD
IS SUPPOSED TO CHOOSE
BETWEEN HOMOSEXUALITY

1740
01:24:41,598 --> 01:24:44,557
AND... AND HETEROSEXUALITY
IN THE 6th GRADE.

1741
01:24:44,601 --> 01:24:46,951
WHAT CHANCE DOES
THIS LITTLE GIRL HAVE?

1742
01:24:47,995 --> 01:24:48,953
WE KNOW THAT

1743
01:24:48,996 --> 01:24:51,086
ONE IN TEN OF
OUR CHILDREN

1744
01:24:51,129 --> 01:24:54,176
WILL BECOME PREGNANT
EVERY YEAR.

1745
01:24:54,219 --> 01:24:57,570
ONE OUT OF TEN.

1746
01:24:57,614 --> 01:25:02,619
WE KNOW THAT MORE
THAN FOUR OUT OF TEN
OF OUR WHITE WOMEN

1747
01:25:02,662 --> 01:25:07,580
WILL HAVE A PREGNANCY
BEFORE THE AGE OF 20;

1748
01:25:07,624 --> 01:25:11,628
6.7 OUT OF 10
OF OUR BLACK WOMEN

1749
01:25:11,671 --> 01:25:16,067
WILL HAVE A PREGNANCY
BEFORE THE AGE OF 20.

1750
01:25:16,111 --> 01:25:23,335
AND YET, WE IN AMERICA
HAVE STILL NOT ACCEPTED

1751
01:25:23,379 --> 01:25:28,427
THE FACT THAT OUR CHILDREN
ARE SEXUALLY ACTIVE.

1752
01:25:28,471 --> 01:25:30,168
[ Laughter/Applause ]

1753
01:25:30,212 --> 01:25:33,389
WE BURY OUR HEADS
IN THE SAND.

1754
01:25:33,432 --> 01:25:35,521
IT'S NOT RIGHT.

1755
01:25:35,565 --> 01:25:38,394
THAT'S WHAT CLINTON
IS DOING TO US IN
OUR LIVING ROOMS.

1756
01:25:38,437 --> 01:25:40,831
THAT'S WHAT
HILARY CLINTON,
WITH HER...

1757
01:25:40,874 --> 01:25:42,920
HER DRESS UP TO HER HIPS,
IS COMING IN THERE

1758
01:25:42,963 --> 01:25:46,576
TELLING OUR LITTLE
CHILDREN WHAT THEY
MUST AND MUST NOT DO.

1759
01:25:46,619 --> 01:25:49,492
AND... AND WHO IS
THIS NEW WOMAN COMING
IN HERE, ELDERS,

1760
01:25:49,535 --> 01:25:51,015
WHO TELL... WE'VE ALREADY
TOLD OUR CHILDREN

1761
01:25:51,058 --> 01:25:52,495
WHAT TO DO IN
THE FRONT SEAT OF A CAR,

1762
01:25:52,538 --> 01:25:54,236
HOW TO DRIVE A CAR
IN DRIVER'S ED,

1763
01:25:54,279 --> 01:25:58,109
AND NOW WE'VE GOT TO
TELL THEM HOW TO DO IT
IN THE BACK SEAT.

1764
01:25:58,153 --> 01:26:00,503
YOU WONDER WHY WE
CHRISTIAN FATHERS GET ANGRY?

1765
01:26:00,546 --> 01:26:02,113
YOU WONDER WHY
WE GET UPSET?

1766
01:26:02,157 --> 01:26:03,549
BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING
TO LITTLE GIRLS

1767
01:26:03,593 --> 01:26:05,377
LIKE SPARKLING,
THAT'S WHY.

1768
01:26:05,421 --> 01:26:07,031
WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE

1769
01:26:07,074 --> 01:26:12,993
THAT WE KEEP ABORTIONS
SAFE AND LEGAL FOR WOMEN.

1770
01:26:13,037 --> 01:26:14,430
[ Applause ]

1771
01:26:14,473 --> 01:26:19,435
I WAS... I WAS
IN MEDICAL SCHOOL
AND RESIDENCY

1772
01:26:19,478 --> 01:26:26,137
DURING THE TIME
WHEN I SAW MANY, MANY
SEPTIC ABORTIONS.

1773
01:26:26,181 --> 01:26:29,227
AND IT WAS ONE
OF THE MOST COMMON
CAUSES OF DEATH

1774
01:26:29,271 --> 01:26:30,968
IN BLACK WOMEN.

1775
01:26:31,011 --> 01:26:35,494
SO WE VOWED TO NEVER,
NEVER GO BACK TO THAT STATE.

1776
01:26:35,538 --> 01:26:37,104
[ Applause ]

1777
01:26:37,148 --> 01:26:38,454
Fr. Westlin:
THAT'S WHAT'S
HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

1778
01:26:38,497 --> 01:26:40,369
IT'S A SECULAR
HUMANIST SOCIETY.

1779
01:26:40,412 --> 01:26:41,892
WE CHRISTIANS ARE
NO LONGER THE MAJORITY
IN THIS COUNTRY.

1780
01:26:41,935 --> 01:26:44,286
WE'RE THE
MINORITY NOW.

1781
01:26:44,329 --> 01:26:46,592
PRESIDENT CLINTON
HAS TO BE IMPEACHED.

1782
01:26:46,636 --> 01:26:49,291
HE HAS TO BE
TAKEN OUT OF THIS
GOVERNMENTAL POSITION

1783
01:26:49,334 --> 01:26:51,597
AND PUT BACK SOME
PLACE WHERE HE CAN'T
HARM PEOPLE ANYMORE.

1784
01:26:51,641 --> 01:26:55,471
SO HE WON'T KILL
ANY MORE OF OUR BABIES.

1785
01:26:55,514 --> 01:26:57,690
AND THE CATHOLIC
CHURCH IS THE ONE
THAT HE'S AFTER ALSO.

1786
01:26:57,734 --> 01:26:59,953
HE KNOWS WHAT
HIS BIGGEST PROBLEM IS.

1787
01:26:59,997 --> 01:27:01,303
IT'S THE ROMAN
CATHOLIC CHURCH.

1788
01:27:01,346 --> 01:27:03,043
AND WE'RE STARTING
CATHOLIC TOWNS.

1789
01:27:03,087 --> 01:27:04,610
WE'VE ALREADY
GOT ONE GOING IN
NORTH CAROLINA,

1790
01:27:04,654 --> 01:27:07,787
AND THERE'S A MAN
NAME OF MR. FRED WIESNER
UP HERE IN DENVER

1791
01:27:07,831 --> 01:27:10,442
WHO'S GOING TO HELP
US START ANOTHER CATHOLIC
TOWN UP HERE IN COLORADO,

1792
01:27:10,486 --> 01:27:12,139
RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE
OF GOVERNOR...

1793
01:27:12,183 --> 01:27:14,141
GOVERNOR LAMB'S
SEX JUNGLE RIGHT UP
HERE IN THE MOUNTAINS,

1794
01:27:14,185 --> 01:27:15,839
IN HIS SEX...
SEX RANCHES.

1795
01:27:15,882 --> 01:27:17,710
WE'RE COMING RIGHT
INTO THE MIDDLE OF
SATAN'S TERRITORY

1796
01:27:17,754 --> 01:27:19,756
UP HERE IN COLORADO
AND WE'RE GOING TO...

1797
01:27:19,799 --> 01:27:21,323
WE'RE GOING TO FORM
A CATHOLIC TOWN HERE

1798
01:27:21,366 --> 01:27:22,715
THAT'S GOING TO
RAISE OUR CHILDREN

1799
01:27:22,759 --> 01:27:25,544
ACCORDING TO THE
ROMAN CATHOLIC DOCTRINE.

1800
01:27:25,588 --> 01:27:27,459
WE KNOW THAT
THESE CHILDREN

1801
01:27:27,503 --> 01:27:29,287
THAT ARE BORN INTO
THESE SITUATIONS

1802
01:27:29,331 --> 01:27:35,902
ARE BORN TO BE MEMBERS
OF THE 5-H CLUB.

1803
01:27:35,946 --> 01:27:41,168
THE 5-H CLUB ARE
CHILDREN THAT ARE
HUNGRY EVERY NIGHT

1804
01:27:41,212 --> 01:27:43,562
IN THE RICHEST COUNTRY
IN THE WORLD.

1805
01:27:43,606 --> 01:27:48,437
WE HAVE 3 TO 5 MILLION
CHILDREN THAT GO
TO BED HUNGRY.

1806
01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:51,657
TOO MANY OF THEM
ARE HEALTH-LESS.

1807
01:27:51,701 --> 01:27:55,444
THEY RECEIVE
NO HEALTH CARE.

1808
01:27:55,487 --> 01:27:59,970
WHEN OUR COUNTRY TODAY
MORE THAN 40%...

1809
01:28:00,013 --> 01:28:04,235
IN FACT, ONLY 44% OF
THE UNDER-TWO-YEAR-OLDS

1810
01:28:04,279 --> 01:28:06,803
ARE COMPLETELY IMMUNIZED.

1811
01:28:06,846 --> 01:28:09,588
SO WE SAY, "IF WE CAN'T
IMMUNIZE OUR CHILDREN,

1812
01:28:09,632 --> 01:28:11,068
WHAT CAN WE DO?"

1813
01:28:11,111 --> 01:28:17,335
THESE ARE THE CHILDREN
THAT WE LOVE SO DEARLY,

1814
01:28:17,379 --> 01:28:20,382
AS LONG AS THEY'RE
IN SOMEBODY ELSE'S UTERUS.

1815
01:28:20,425 --> 01:28:23,515
[ Applause ]

1816
01:28:23,559 --> 01:28:25,517
THERE OUGHT TO BE...
THERE ISN'T ALWAYS...

1817
01:28:25,561 --> 01:28:29,042
THERE OUGHT TO BE A
CONSISTENCY OF PEOPLE
WHO ARE PRO-LIFE.

1818
01:28:29,086 --> 01:28:32,263
THERE WAS A MAN NAMED
CARDINAL JOSEPH BERNARDIN
OF CHICAGO.

1819
01:28:32,307 --> 01:28:34,047
HE'S NOW DEAD.

1820
01:28:34,091 --> 01:28:36,920
HE CAME UP WITH A PHRASE
THAT I ALWAYS LIKED.

1821
01:28:36,963 --> 01:28:38,791
IT WAS CALLED
THE "SEAMLESS GARMENT".

1822
01:28:38,835 --> 01:28:40,358
IF YOU'RE PRO-LIFE,
HE SAID,

1823
01:28:40,402 --> 01:28:42,665
YOU OUGHT TO BE AGAINST
CAPITAL PUNISHMENT,

1824
01:28:42,708 --> 01:28:45,102
YOU OUGHT TO BE
AGAINST WAR,

1825
01:28:45,145 --> 01:28:48,018
YOU... OBVIOUSLY
YOU OUGHT TO BE
AGAINST STOCKING UP

1826
01:28:48,061 --> 01:28:50,455
AND MANUFACTURING
WEAPONS OF WAR,

1827
01:28:50,499 --> 01:28:53,719
AND YOU OUGHT TO BE AGAINST
THE KIND OF POLITICS

1828
01:28:53,763 --> 01:28:56,026
AND THE KIND OF
ADMINISTRATION

1829
01:28:56,069 --> 01:28:59,899
THAT CREATES
AND SUSTAINS AND
INCREASES POVERTY.

1830
01:28:59,943 --> 01:29:02,032
'CAUSE THE PEOPLE
WHO ARE POOR,

1831
01:29:02,075 --> 01:29:03,947
THEIR LIVES ARE
SEVERELY DIMINISHED.

1832
01:29:03,990 --> 01:29:06,253
I LIKE THAT THEORY.

1833
01:29:06,297 --> 01:29:08,168
NOT ALL PRO-LIFERS
AGREE WITH THAT.

1834
01:29:08,212 --> 01:29:09,953
WELL, I THINK THE POINT
IS THAT IF...

1835
01:29:09,996 --> 01:29:11,737
IF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
IS WHETHER ABORTION

1836
01:29:11,781 --> 01:29:14,479
IS LEGAL OR NOT,
IS LEGALLY AVAILABLE,

1837
01:29:14,523 --> 01:29:19,136
THEN IT'S CERTAINLY
THE POOR WOMEN WHO ARE HARMED

1838
01:29:19,179 --> 01:29:21,443
BY THE FACT THAT
ABORTION IS NOT
LEGALLY AVAILABLE.

1839
01:29:21,486 --> 01:29:24,533
BECAUSE THE WEALTHY
WOMEN CAN GENERALLY
GET AN ABORTION

1840
01:29:24,576 --> 01:29:26,273
WHETHER IT'S LEGALLY
AVAILABLE OR NOT.

1841
01:29:26,317 --> 01:29:28,972
THERE WILL BE SOMEONE
WHO IS PROPERLY
MEDICALLY QUALIFIED

1842
01:29:29,015 --> 01:29:30,103
WHO CAN DO IT.

1843
01:29:30,147 --> 01:29:32,236
AND IF NOT, OF COURSE,
THEY CAN TRAVEL.

1844
01:29:32,279 --> 01:29:34,064
IT'S A GLOBAL WORLD,
THEY CAN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

1845
01:29:34,107 --> 01:29:36,153
I'M SAYING I DON'T THINK
THAT THE DEATHS OF THE FETUSES

1846
01:29:36,196 --> 01:29:38,068
SHOULD BE REGARDED
AS COMPARABLE

1847
01:29:38,111 --> 01:29:41,201
TO THE DEATHS OF
OLDER HUMAN BEINGS.

1848
01:29:41,245 --> 01:29:46,816
UM, BUT THE GREAT
TRAGEDY IS THE TENS
OF THOUSANDS OF WOMEN

1849
01:29:46,859 --> 01:29:49,471
WHO DIE FROM
BOTCHED ABORTIONS

1850
01:29:49,514 --> 01:29:51,995
IN COUNTRIES WHERE
ABORTION IS... IS ILLEGAL.

1851
01:29:52,038 --> 01:29:54,258
FOR EXAMPLE,
IT IS REASONABLY WELL...

1852
01:29:54,301 --> 01:29:56,782
IN FACT,
VERY WELL ESTABLISHED,

1853
01:29:56,826 --> 01:30:02,701
THAT AS WOMEN HAVE
MORE OPPORTUNITIES,
MORE EDUCATION,

1854
01:30:02,745 --> 01:30:05,138
AS BETTER MEDICAL CARE
IS AVAILABLE,

1855
01:30:05,182 --> 01:30:07,619
AS MORE FAMILY PLANNING
IS AVAILABLE,

1856
01:30:07,663 --> 01:30:14,409
FERTILITY RATES GO DOWN,
ABORTION GOES DOWN...

1857
01:30:14,452 --> 01:30:17,542
CHILDREN ARE BETTER
CARED FOR AND WOMEN
ARE HEALTHIER.

1858
01:30:17,586 --> 01:30:19,022
THOSE THINGS ARE KNOWN.

1859
01:30:19,065 --> 01:30:22,025
AND THOSE ARE ALL
THINGS THAT ARE...

1860
01:30:22,068 --> 01:30:26,333
THAT ARE EASILY UNDER
SOCIAL CONTROL AND ARE...

1861
01:30:26,377 --> 01:30:28,118
SHOULD NOT BE
CONTROVERSIAL.

1862
01:30:28,161 --> 01:30:30,033
I DON'T THINK THERE
SHOULD BE ANYTHING
CONTROVERSIAL

1863
01:30:30,076 --> 01:30:35,038
ABOUT MAKING SURE
THAT WOMEN CAN HAVE ACCESS

1864
01:30:35,081 --> 01:30:37,736
TO DECENT,
SAY, OBSTETRIC CARE.

1865
01:30:37,780 --> 01:30:41,131
THAT ALONE WOULD SAVE
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
OF LIVES EVERY YEAR.

1866
01:30:41,174 --> 01:30:43,699
IF YOU WANT TO DO THINGS
THAT'LL HELP PEOPLE,

1867
01:30:43,742 --> 01:30:45,440
THERE ARE VERY
EASY WAYS TO DO IT.

1868
01:30:45,483 --> 01:30:47,877
AND IT'S NOT JUST
TRUE OF WOMEN, IT'S
ALSO TRUE OF CHILDREN.

1869
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:53,578
UNICEF ALSO REPORTS THAT,
IF MY MEMORY IS CORRECT,

1870
01:30:53,622 --> 01:30:58,888
THAT ABOUT 15 MILLION
CHILDREN DIE
EVERY YEAR FROM...

1871
01:30:58,931 --> 01:31:01,586
MOSTLY FROM EASILY
TREATABLE DISEASES.

1872
01:31:01,630 --> 01:31:04,546
MEANING, SOMETIMES THINGS
LIKE, YOU KNOW,

1873
01:31:04,589 --> 01:31:07,636
LACK OF DRINKABLE
WATER AND...

1874
01:31:07,679 --> 01:31:11,074
OR DEHYDRATION, YOU KNOW,
AND DIARRHEA.

1875
01:31:11,117 --> 01:31:13,163
THINGS THAT CAN
VERY EASILY BE TREATED.

1876
01:31:13,206 --> 01:31:15,165
AND COULD BE TREATED
FOR, LITERALLY,

1877
01:31:15,208 --> 01:31:17,733
PENNIES A DAY FROM
THE RICH COUNTRIES.

1878
01:31:17,776 --> 01:31:20,605
WELL, OKAY, IF WE'RE
SERIOUS ABOUT SAVING LIVES,

1879
01:31:20,649 --> 01:31:23,478
SAVING CHILDREN'S
LIVES, THERE ARE
EASY WAYS TO DO IT.

1880
01:31:23,521 --> 01:31:27,133
ON THE OTHER HAND,
IF YOU LOOK AT
THE SAME PEOPLE

1881
01:31:27,177 --> 01:31:31,660
WHO ARE MOST MILITANT
ABOUT SAVING THE FETUS,

1882
01:31:31,703 --> 01:31:34,314
ARE THEY CALLING FOR
INCREASING FOREIGN AID?

1883
01:31:34,358 --> 01:31:36,447
ARE THEY... ARE THEY
CONCERNED WITH THE FACT
THAT THE UNITED STATES

1884
01:31:36,491 --> 01:31:40,538
HAS THE MOST
MISERABLE AND MISERLY
FOREIGN AID PROGRAM

1885
01:31:40,582 --> 01:31:43,628
OF ANY DEVELOPED COUNTRY
BY QUITE A LARGE MARGIN?

1886
01:31:43,672 --> 01:31:46,544
THE COUNTRY'S GOT PLENTY
OF WEALTH, YOU KNOW,

1887
01:31:46,588 --> 01:31:50,243
THE MEANS ARE EASILY THERE,
THEY'RE JUST BEING USED...

1888
01:31:50,287 --> 01:31:52,245
THE SOCIAL POLICY
IS BEING DESIGNED

1889
01:31:52,289 --> 01:31:57,207
TO ENRICH THE WEALTHY
EVEN FURTHER AND
LET THE POOR SUFFER.

1890
01:31:57,250 --> 01:31:59,383
LET THE CHILDREN DIE,
LET THEM STARVE,

1891
01:31:59,426 --> 01:32:01,211
LET THE MOTHERS DIE
AND SO ON.

1892
01:32:01,254 --> 01:32:03,909
THAT'S AN
OVERWHELMING PROBLEM.

1893
01:32:03,953 --> 01:32:07,130
ONCE PEOPLE ADDRESS...

1894
01:32:07,173 --> 01:32:09,567
AMONG PEOPLE WHO ARE
WILLING TO ADDRESS
THOSE PROBLEMS...

1895
01:32:09,611 --> 01:32:11,264
PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING
TO ADDRESS THOSE PROBLEMS,

1896
01:32:11,308 --> 01:32:13,571
WE CAN AT LEAST
TAKE SERIOUSLY WHEN
THEY TALK ABOUT VALUES.

1897
01:32:13,615 --> 01:32:16,835
WHEN YOU CAN TAKE
PEOPLE SERIOUSLY WHEN
THEY TALK ABOUT VALUES,

1898
01:32:16,879 --> 01:32:18,533
YOU CAN LISTEN
TO WHAT THEY SAY
ABOUT OTHER THINGS

1899
01:32:18,576 --> 01:32:20,535
LIKE ABORTION,
WHICH IS A HARD QUESTION.

1900
01:32:20,578 --> 01:32:23,668
BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT...

1901
01:32:23,712 --> 01:32:25,452
I DON'T THINK WE
SHOULD BE INTERESTED
IN DISCUSSING IT

1902
01:32:25,496 --> 01:32:27,933
WITH PEOPLE WHOSE
VALUES ARE SUCH
THAT THEY DON'T CARE

1903
01:32:27,977 --> 01:32:32,329
ABOUT THE MASSIVE PROBLEM
OF KILLING AND HARMING

1904
01:32:32,372 --> 01:32:34,418
WOMEN AND CHILDREN
THAT THEY COULD
EASILY DEAL WITH

1905
01:32:34,461 --> 01:32:37,377
AND ARE DOING
NOTHING ABOUT.

1906
01:32:37,421 --> 01:32:38,988
IN FACT, MAKING IT WORSE.

1907
01:32:39,031 --> 01:32:40,729
NOT DOING NOTHING ABOUT IT;
MAKING IT WORSE.

1908
01:32:40,772 --> 01:32:43,688
Crowd:
[ Cheering ]

1909
01:32:47,083 --> 01:32:49,868
SECONDLY, WE'VE GOT
TO WORK ON THAT
CONGRESS, MY FRIENDS.

1910
01:32:49,912 --> 01:32:53,655
NOW THEY OWE US,
THOSE REPUBLICANS DO.

1911
01:32:53,698 --> 01:32:55,352
WE ALL WORK FOR THEM,
OR A LOT OF US DID,

1912
01:32:55,395 --> 01:32:59,051
OR THE PRO-LIFE
CONGRESSMAN, IN 1994.

1913
01:32:59,095 --> 01:33:01,227
AND THAT'S WHY WE GOT
THIS CONGRESS.

1914
01:33:01,271 --> 01:33:04,187
SO WE GOT TO TELL THEM,
"IT'S PAYBACK TIME, FELLAS.

1915
01:33:04,230 --> 01:33:06,406
NOT ONE DIME FOR
PLANNED PARENTHOOD,

1916
01:33:06,450 --> 01:33:08,800
NOT ONE DIME FOR UNFPA,

1917
01:33:08,844 --> 01:33:11,368
NOT ONE DIME FOR
FETAL TISSUE RESEARCH."

1918
01:33:11,411 --> 01:33:13,413
[ Cheering ]

1919
01:33:13,457 --> 01:33:17,156
[ ♪♪♪ ]

1920
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:20,116
♪ THIS LAND IS YOUR LAND

1921
01:33:20,159 --> 01:33:23,206
♪ THIS LAND IS MY LAND

1922
01:33:23,249 --> 01:33:25,948
♪ FROM CALIFORNIA

1923
01:33:25,991 --> 01:33:28,907
♪ TO THE NEW YORK ISLAND

1924
01:33:28,951 --> 01:33:32,084
♪ FROM THE
REDWOOD FOREST ♪

1925
01:33:32,128 --> 01:33:36,175
♪ TO THE GULF STREAM
WATERS ♪

1926
01:33:36,219 --> 01:33:41,659
♪ THIS LAND WAS MADE
FOR YOU AND ME ♪

1927
01:33:49,362 --> 01:33:53,497
♪ MINE EYES HAVE SEEN
THE GLORY ♪

1928
01:33:53,540 --> 01:33:58,284
♪ OF THE COMING
OF THE LORD ♪

1929
01:33:58,328 --> 01:34:00,852
♪ HE HAS TRAMPLED...

1930
01:34:00,896 --> 01:34:02,680
Terry: [ On radio ]
WELCOME BACK, LADIES
AND GENTLEMEN,

1931
01:34:02,724 --> 01:34:05,117
TO THE WORST
NIGHTMARE OF THE
CHILD-KILLING MOVEMENT.

1932
01:34:05,161 --> 01:34:08,338
RANDALL TERRY LIVE,
IN THE FLESH.

1933
01:34:08,381 --> 01:34:10,906
IN THE NEWS,
A GROUP OF "ELITISTS"

1934
01:34:10,949 --> 01:34:12,864
IN THE EVANGELICAL
LUTHERAN CHURCH

1935
01:34:12,908 --> 01:34:17,390
MET TO DRAFT A STATEMENT
IN WHICH THEY SUPPORTED

1936
01:34:17,434 --> 01:34:20,829
NOT ONLY HOMOSEXUALITY,
BUT THEY SAID, GET THIS,

1937
01:34:20,872 --> 01:34:24,746
THAT HOMOSEXUAL
MARRIAGES COULD BE
SUPPORTED BIBLICALLY!

1938
01:34:24,789 --> 01:34:26,704
I'M NOT KIDDING.
I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP.

1939
01:34:26,748 --> 01:34:31,753
AND THEY SAID THAT
TEENAGERS HAVING CONDOMS
DISTRIBUTED TO THEM

1940
01:34:31,796 --> 01:34:35,104
WAS A, QUOTE,
"MORAL IMPERATIVE".

1941
01:34:35,147 --> 01:34:37,019
I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP.

1942
01:34:37,062 --> 01:34:39,978
IN JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI,
A PRINCIPAL IS FIRED

1943
01:34:40,022 --> 01:34:41,763
FOR ALLOWING
A STUDENT TO PRAY.

1944
01:34:41,806 --> 01:34:43,503
[ Gasp ]
THE HORRIFYING CRIME.

1945
01:34:43,547 --> 01:34:45,331
WHAT THE KIDS SHOULD
HAVE DONE IS JUST
HANDED OUT CONDOMS,

1946
01:34:45,375 --> 01:34:46,985
THEN THE PRINCIPAL
WOULD BE A HERO.

1947
01:34:47,029 --> 01:34:48,857
WELL, FIREARMS CAN
COME INTO THE SCHOOL,

1948
01:34:48,900 --> 01:34:50,467
PRINCIPAL WON'T GET FIRED.

1949
01:34:50,510 --> 01:34:52,382
PLANNED PARENTHOOD
COULD COME INTO THE SCHOOL

1950
01:34:52,425 --> 01:34:54,558
AND TELL KIDS
HOW TO USE CONDOMS,

1951
01:34:54,601 --> 01:34:55,733
THEY'RE NOT GOING
TO GET FIRED.

1952
01:34:55,777 --> 01:34:57,822
IN FACT, SOME PERVERT
CAN COME IN

1953
01:34:57,866 --> 01:35:01,217
AND DEMONSTRATE
CONDOM USAGE ON A
BANANA OR ON A FINGER

1954
01:35:01,260 --> 01:35:04,568
AND MAKE BOYS PULL CONDOMS
OVER THE FINGERS OF GIRLS

1955
01:35:04,611 --> 01:35:06,918
AND THAT PRINCIPAL'S
NOT GOING TO GET THE AXE.

1956
01:35:06,962 --> 01:35:10,661
BUT WHEN A MAN STANDS UP
AND SAYS TO THE KIDS,

1957
01:35:10,705 --> 01:35:12,358
"GO AHEAD. DO YOU
WANT TO OPEN THE
DAY IN PRAYER?"

1958
01:35:12,402 --> 01:35:14,056
BOOM! HE'S FIRED.

1959
01:35:14,099 --> 01:35:17,189
THAT, ONCE AGAIN,
FRIENDS, SHOWS WHAT
HAPPENS TO A NATION

1960
01:35:17,233 --> 01:35:21,759
WHEN THAT NATION TURNS
ITS BACK ON GOD'S LAW.

1961
01:35:21,803 --> 01:35:23,152
WE'LL KEEP YOU
POSTED ON THAT.

1962
01:35:23,195 --> 01:35:24,719
YOU HAVE BEEN LISTENING
TO RANDALL TERRY LIVE.

1963
01:35:24,762 --> 01:35:26,764
MY VIEWS ARE MY OWN,

1964
01:35:26,808 --> 01:35:28,374
UNLESS THEY COME
FROM THE BIBLE,
THEN THEY'RE GOD'S

1965
01:35:28,418 --> 01:35:29,724
AND THEY'RE FLAWLESS
AND PERFECT,

1966
01:35:29,767 --> 01:35:31,508
AND WE WON'T RETRACT
A SINGLE WORD OF THEM.

1967
01:35:31,551 --> 01:35:35,642
I WANT TO ENCOURAGE
YOU, FRIENDS, TO CALL
1-800-323-LIVE

1968
01:35:35,686 --> 01:35:37,732
AND GET THAT
INCREDIBLE BOOK,

1969
01:35:37,775 --> 01:35:41,561
"THE UNTOLD STORY:
AMERICA'S CHRISTIAN
HISTORY",

1970
01:35:41,605 --> 01:35:43,781
AN AWESOME
CHRISTMAS GIFT.

1971
01:35:43,825 --> 01:35:45,957
IF YOU JUST
JOINED ME, THIS IS
RANDALL TERRY LIVE,

1972
01:35:46,001 --> 01:35:50,005
WHERE WE LOVINGLY
BREED INTOLERANCE.

1973
01:35:50,048 --> 01:35:51,876
BECAUSE INTOLERANCE
IS A BEAUTIFUL THING.

1974
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:53,399
ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT.

1975
01:35:53,443 --> 01:35:55,097
MY GOOD FRIENDS,
THE PHONE NUMBER

1976
01:35:55,140 --> 01:35:56,794
FOR THE U.S. TAXPAYERS
ALLIANCE,

1977
01:35:56,838 --> 01:35:59,841
WHICH IS THE CLOSE
COUSIN OF THE U.S.
TAXPAYERS PARTY,

1978
01:35:59,884 --> 01:36:06,848
IS 1-800-2-VETO-IRS.
1-800-2-VETO-IRS.

1979
01:36:06,891 --> 01:36:08,501
THE U.S. TAXPAYERS
ALLIANCE,

1980
01:36:08,545 --> 01:36:11,243
MEN AND WOMEN WHO
ARE DEDICATED TO
ENDING THE WELFARE,

1981
01:36:11,287 --> 01:36:13,855
SOCIALIST, MESSIANIC
STATE OF AMERICA.

1982
01:36:13,898 --> 01:36:15,813
RANDALL TERRY,
MATT TRUELLO,

1983
01:36:15,857 --> 01:36:18,207
AND SOME OTHER ACTIVISTS
IN THE MOVEMENT

1984
01:36:18,250 --> 01:36:22,733
HAVE RELATED RECENTLY
TO THE AMERICAN
TAXPAYERS PARTY,

1985
01:36:22,777 --> 01:36:26,128
WHICH IS SHOT THROUGH
WITH MILITIA PERSONNEL

1986
01:36:26,171 --> 01:36:27,782
AND MILITIA SENTIMENT.

1987
01:36:27,825 --> 01:36:33,613
AND, IN FACT, HE SPOKE
AT THE LAST ELECTION TIME

1988
01:36:33,657 --> 01:36:38,575
TO THE CONVENTION
AND TOLD THE CONVENTION

1989
01:36:38,618 --> 01:36:41,883
THAT HE HAD ALREADY
STARTED TEACHING
HIS INFANT CHILD

1990
01:36:41,926 --> 01:36:43,928
WHERE HIS TRIGGER
FINGER WAS.

1991
01:36:43,972 --> 01:36:47,366
THAT CHILDREN OUGHT
TO BE TRAINED
IN THE USE OF...

1992
01:36:47,410 --> 01:36:49,499
OF WEAPONS AND ARMS
AND SUCH.

1993
01:36:49,542 --> 01:36:53,982
AND THERE ARE INDICATIONS
THAT BACK IN THE 1980s,

1994
01:36:54,025 --> 01:36:55,853
THAT MILITIAS
WERE DOING SOME TRAINING

1995
01:36:55,897 --> 01:36:58,943
OF ANTI-ABORTION
PERSONNEL WITH...

1996
01:36:58,987 --> 01:37:04,122
IN THE USE OF
HEAVY WEAPONS AND ALSO
THE USE OF EXPLOSIVES,

1997
01:37:04,166 --> 01:37:05,820
AND THE BUILDING
OF BOMBS AND SUCH.

1998
01:37:05,863 --> 01:37:09,693
WHEN THE ANTI-ABORTIONISTS
TALK ABOUT LIFE

1999
01:37:09,736 --> 01:37:13,349
OR TALK ABOUT BABIES,
YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT REALLY IT,

2000
01:37:13,392 --> 01:37:16,831
THEY'RE JUST USING THAT
TO TRY TO WHIP UP EMOTION.

2001
01:37:16,874 --> 01:37:19,921
BECAUSE THIS QUESTION
OF WOMAN...

2002
01:37:19,964 --> 01:37:22,184
THEY HAVE SAID OUTRIGHT
AT SOME OF THEIR MEETINGS,

2003
01:37:22,227 --> 01:37:25,665
THAT CONTROL OF WOMEN
IS WHAT IT'S ABOUT.

2004
01:37:25,709 --> 01:37:27,667
RANDALL TERRY
ONCE TALKED ABOUT...

2005
01:37:27,711 --> 01:37:30,583
AT A RALLY THAT
THEY WERE HAVING,

2006
01:37:30,627 --> 01:37:34,849
ABOUT HOW MEN ARE
UNDER THE SUBMISSION...

2007
01:37:34,892 --> 01:37:36,633
SHOULD SUBMIT TO GOD

2008
01:37:36,676 --> 01:37:38,722
AND WOMEN SHOULD
SUBMIT TO MEN.

2009
01:37:38,765 --> 01:37:42,421
THE TAXPAYERS PARTY
PLATFORM, WHILE
BEING 100% PRO-LIFE,

2010
01:37:42,465 --> 01:37:45,685
IS NOT STRICTLY LIMITED
TO THE PRO-LIFE ARENA.

2011
01:37:45,729 --> 01:37:48,863
THE TAX PARTY CALLS
FOR THE END OF THE IRS

2012
01:37:48,906 --> 01:37:50,342
AND THE FEDERAL
INCOME TAX,

2013
01:37:50,386 --> 01:37:52,344
THE END OF HEALTH
AND HUMAN SERVICES,

2014
01:37:52,388 --> 01:37:56,000
THE END OF THE
WELFARE STATE, THE
END OF LAND TAXES.

2015
01:37:56,044 --> 01:37:59,221
IT CALLS FOR A RETURN
TO CONSTITUTIONAL MONEY:

2016
01:37:59,264 --> 01:38:00,831
GOLD AND SILVER.

2017
01:38:00,875 --> 01:38:03,921
IT CALLS TO A RETURN FOR
A CONSTITUTIONAL MEAN...

2018
01:38:03,965 --> 01:38:06,663
MEANS OF THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
RAISING ITS REVENUE

2019
01:38:06,706 --> 01:38:09,753
THROUGH TARIFFS,
NOT THROUGH DIRECT
TAXATION UPON THE PEOPLE.

2020
01:38:09,796 --> 01:38:12,060
IT CALLS FOR THE...
THE COMPLETE FREEDOM

2021
01:38:12,103 --> 01:38:13,975
OF INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS
IN THIS COUNTRY

2022
01:38:14,018 --> 01:38:16,934
TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS.

2023
01:38:16,978 --> 01:38:21,417
LET THOSE WHO REJECT TRUTH,
LET THE GOD-HATERS,

2024
01:38:21,460 --> 01:38:24,724
LET THE CHILD-KILLERS
SEE AND FEAR.

2025
01:38:24,768 --> 01:38:26,813
BECAUSE OUR COMMITMENT
IS NOT JUST

2026
01:38:26,857 --> 01:38:28,250
TO KEEP FIGHTING
IN THIS BATTLE,

2027
01:38:28,293 --> 01:38:32,123
BUT TO RAISE UP A NEW
GENERATION OF MEN AND WOMEN,

2028
01:38:32,167 --> 01:38:36,214
ESPECIALLY MEN,
COURAGEOUS, GOD-FEARING MEN,

2029
01:38:36,258 --> 01:38:40,349
WHO WILL BRING THE NATIONS
BACK TO MORAL SANITY,

2030
01:38:40,392 --> 01:38:43,961
TO THE LAWS OF JUSTICE
AND MERCY AS THEY ARE
OUTLINED BY GOD.

2031
01:38:44,005 --> 01:38:47,312
♪ JESUS

2032
01:38:47,356 --> 01:38:50,315
♪ MIGHTY GOD

2033
01:38:50,359 --> 01:38:54,102
♪ OUR ROCK, OUR FORTRESS,
OUR DEFENSE ♪

2034
01:38:56,669 --> 01:39:03,372
♪ YOUR CONQUERING ARM
WILL BE OUR STRENGTH ♪

2035
01:39:03,415 --> 01:39:07,419
♪ O GOD OF POWER
AND RIGHTEOUSNESS ♪

2036
01:39:10,248 --> 01:39:13,730
♪ EVERY FOE WILL
TREMBLE AT YOUR NAME ♪

2037
01:39:17,081 --> 01:39:20,519
♪ EVERY FOE WILL
TREMBLE AT YOUR NAME ♪

2038
01:39:23,305 --> 01:39:26,961
♪ EVERY FOE WILL
TREMBLE AT YOUR NAME ♪

2039
01:39:29,441 --> 01:39:32,009
AND THE RELIGIOUS
FUNDAMENTALISTS ARE CONCERNED,

2040
01:39:32,053 --> 01:39:34,664
NOT JUST WITH ABORTION,
BUT ALSO WITH PORNOGRAPHY,

2041
01:39:34,707 --> 01:39:37,319
WITH ANY ISSUE RELATED
TO THE FAMILY.

2042
01:39:37,362 --> 01:39:42,063
WITH ALCOHOL, A... A
LOT OF PERSONAL SINS,

2043
01:39:42,106 --> 01:39:44,021
WHAT THEY REGARD
AS PERSONAL SINS,

2044
01:39:44,065 --> 01:39:47,198
AND ABORTION IS
JUST AN EASY HANDLE
TO GET AT RIGHT NOW.

2045
01:39:47,242 --> 01:39:49,026
IT REALLY AROSE
AS AN ISSUE

2046
01:39:49,070 --> 01:39:52,116
AFTER THE EQUAL RIGHTS
AMENDMENT WAS KILLED.

2047
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:55,076
AND THERE WERE
ORGANIZATIONS DEDICATED
TO KILLING IT,

2048
01:39:55,119 --> 01:39:58,470
AND AFTER IT DIED,
THEY HAD TO FIND
ANOTHER CAUSE.

2049
01:39:58,514 --> 01:40:00,472
AND SO THEY WENT
TO ABORTION,

2050
01:40:00,516 --> 01:40:03,693
WHICH IS VERY EASY
BECAUSE THE CLINICS
ARE VERY HANDY,

2051
01:40:03,736 --> 01:40:07,653
THEY'RE... THEY'RE
CONVENIENT TO GET AT
GEOGRAPHICALLY.

2052
01:40:07,697 --> 01:40:09,612
[ Mixed shouts ]

2053
01:40:11,483 --> 01:40:13,833
WE'RE OUT HERE
TO MAKE SURE THAT WOMEN

2054
01:40:13,877 --> 01:40:15,835
HAVE ACCESS TO THE CLINIC.

2055
01:40:15,879 --> 01:40:18,186
IT IS THEIR LEGAL RIGHT.

2056
01:40:18,229 --> 01:40:20,840
AND IN THIS COUNTRY,
IF SOMETHING IS LEGAL

2057
01:40:20,884 --> 01:40:23,495
YOU OUGHT TO BE ABLE
TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.

2058
01:40:23,539 --> 01:40:25,062
YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE
TO FIGHT YOUR WAY

2059
01:40:25,106 --> 01:40:28,065
THROUGH
FOAMING-AT-THE-MOUTH ZEALOTS,

2060
01:40:28,109 --> 01:40:30,067
CULTISTS, IF YOU WILL,

2061
01:40:30,111 --> 01:40:34,811
TO HAVE ACCESS TO SAFE
AND LEGAL MEDICAL SERVICES.

2062
01:40:34,854 --> 01:40:36,769
[ Yelling ]

2063
01:40:38,467 --> 01:40:40,208
[ Screaming ]

2064
01:40:40,251 --> 01:40:42,819
CHRISTIAN TERRORISM,
IT'S ON THE RISE IN AMERICA.

2065
01:40:42,862 --> 01:40:44,951
IT'S UP TO YOU TO STOP IT.

2066
01:40:44,995 --> 01:40:48,868
HELP SAVE AMERICA
FROM CHRISTIAN TERRORISTS.

2067
01:40:48,912 --> 01:40:51,784
CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALISM
REALLY GOES BACK

2068
01:40:51,828 --> 01:40:54,352
TO THE '20s AND
THE '30s AS A REVOLT

2069
01:40:54,396 --> 01:41:00,315
AGAINST LIBERAL
TRENDS IN MAINLINE
PROTESTANT DENOMINATIONS.

2070
01:41:00,358 --> 01:41:02,317
SINCE THEN IT'S EVOLVED,

2071
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:05,102
AND TO MEAN RATHER
DIFFERENT THINGS
THAN IT MEANT THEN.

2072
01:41:05,146 --> 01:41:09,585
BASICALLY REFERRING
PRINCIPALLY

2073
01:41:09,628 --> 01:41:11,326
TO AN IDEA OF BIBLICAL
LITERALISM.

2074
01:41:11,369 --> 01:41:14,764
AND THAT IS THAT
THE IDEA THAT THE
BIBLE IS LITERALLY TRUE

2075
01:41:14,807 --> 01:41:18,637
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY
THAT CERTAIN PEOPLES'
INTERPRETATIONS

2076
01:41:18,681 --> 01:41:19,856
IS THE TRUE
INTERPRETATION.

2077
01:41:19,899 --> 01:41:21,379
NO, WAIT A MINUTE!
WAIT A MINUTE!

2078
01:41:21,423 --> 01:41:23,642
SHE'S GOT TO GIVE
THEM INSTRUCTIONS, ON...

2079
01:41:23,686 --> 01:41:25,035
ON WHERE TO GO.

2080
01:41:25,079 --> 01:41:26,515
WE'VE GOT TO BE
READY TO DO

2081
01:41:26,558 --> 01:41:28,691
ANOTHER DOOR DEFENSE
AT ANOTHER CLINIC.

2082
01:41:28,734 --> 01:41:31,476
GET OUT OF THE CAR
WITH YOUR VIDEO CAMERAS
AND YOUR ROUNDS.

2083
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:34,131
ALL RIGHT.
GOOD, LET'S GO.

2084
01:41:34,175 --> 01:41:35,306
Man:
IT'S ALMOST LIKE...

2085
01:41:35,350 --> 01:41:36,394
IT'S LIKE WAR, ISN'T IT?
IT IS.

2086
01:41:36,438 --> 01:41:38,092
NO, IT IS.
IT IS WAR.

2087
01:41:38,135 --> 01:41:39,919
IT JUST DEPENDS UPON
WHERE YOUR VIEWPOINT IS.

2088
01:41:39,963 --> 01:41:42,313
BUT IT'S A FREE COUNTRY.

2089
01:41:42,357 --> 01:41:43,880
UNTIL YOU SHOOT DR. GUNN,

2090
01:41:43,923 --> 01:41:45,316
AND THEN IT'S NOT
A FREE COUNTRY.

2091
01:41:46,970 --> 01:41:49,581
Clarkson:
ONE VARIANT IN RELIGIOUS
FUNDAMENTALISM

2092
01:41:49,625 --> 01:41:52,149
IS A POLITICALLY-
ORIENTED THEOLOGY

2093
01:41:52,193 --> 01:41:53,890
CALLED CHRISTIAN
RECONSTRUCTIONISM.

2094
01:41:53,933 --> 01:41:58,547
THE FIRST MAJOR AND SEMINAL
TEXT OF RECONSTRUCTIONISM

2095
01:41:58,590 --> 01:42:01,376
WAS CALLED "THE INSTITUTES
OF BIBLICAL LAW".

2096
01:42:01,419 --> 01:42:06,163
AND IT WAS PUBLISHED
IN 1973 BY A MAN
NAMED R.J. RUSHDOONY.

2097
01:42:06,207 --> 01:42:09,166
"THE INSTITUTES
OF BIBLICAL LAW"

2098
01:42:09,210 --> 01:42:12,952
IS A DISCUSSION OF
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.

2099
01:42:12,996 --> 01:42:16,739
IT'S INTENDED TO BE
A LEGAL BLUEPRINT

2100
01:42:16,782 --> 01:42:20,830
FOR WHAT AN IDEAL BIBLICAL
SOCIETY WOULD LOOK LIKE.

2101
01:42:20,873 --> 01:42:24,225
THERE ARE A LONG LIST
OF CAPITAL OFFENSES,

2102
01:42:24,268 --> 01:42:26,183
SOME OF WHICH
ARE SEXUAL IN NATURE.

2103
01:42:26,227 --> 01:42:31,232
THERE IS ADULTERY
AND HOMOSEXUALITY,

2104
01:42:31,275 --> 01:42:34,757
AS WELL AS ABORTION,
ARE ALL CONSIDERED
CAPITAL OFFENSES.

2105
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:38,369
OTHERS HAVE TO DO
WITH RELIGION.

2106
01:42:38,413 --> 01:42:43,592
SO THAT BLASPHEMY
AND HERESY, APOSTASY,

2107
01:42:43,635 --> 01:42:46,203
WHICH MEANS
ABANDONMENT OF THE FAITH,

2108
01:42:46,247 --> 01:42:47,987
PROPAGATION OF
FALSE DOCTRINES,

2109
01:42:48,031 --> 01:42:50,512
THESE ARE ALL
CAPITAL OFFENSES TOO.

2110
01:42:50,555 --> 01:42:53,210
SO, BASICALLY,
ANYONE WHO'S A
RELIGIOUS DISSIDENT,

2111
01:42:53,254 --> 01:42:55,299
OR IF YOU'RE NOT A MEMBER
OF THE CORRECT SECT,

2112
01:42:55,343 --> 01:43:01,653
IS LIABLE TO BE SUBJECT
TO CAPITAL PUNISHMENT.

2113
01:43:01,697 --> 01:43:03,786
WITHIN THAT,
THERE'S WITCHCRAFT
AND ASTROLOGY.

2114
01:43:03,829 --> 01:43:06,223
BUT IT WOULD ALSO MEAN...
AND HERESY WOULD MEAN

2115
01:43:06,267 --> 01:43:08,443
THAT IF YOU'RE NOT
THE CORRECT KIND

2116
01:43:08,486 --> 01:43:10,227
OF CHRISTIAN
RECONSTRUCTIONIST,

2117
01:43:10,271 --> 01:43:12,534
IF YOU'RE, SAY,
A BAPTIST,

2118
01:43:12,577 --> 01:43:13,883
OR CERTAINLY,
HEAVEN FORBID,

2119
01:43:13,926 --> 01:43:15,363
IF YOU'RE A MORMON
OR A JEW,

2120
01:43:15,406 --> 01:43:17,626
YOU WOULD BE PUT TO DEATH

2121
01:43:17,669 --> 01:43:20,194
UNDER RUSHDOONY'S
"INSTITUTES OF BIBLICAL LAW".

2122
01:43:20,237 --> 01:43:23,153
THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT
OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS!

2123
01:43:23,197 --> 01:43:26,200
THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT
OUR LEGISLATURE!

2124
01:43:26,243 --> 01:43:28,637
WHY ARE YOU LETTING
THEM DICTATE

2125
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:31,683
WHO GOES INTO A
DOCTOR'S OFFICE?

2126
01:43:31,727 --> 01:43:35,818
♪ THERE IS ONLY ONE BODY

2127
01:43:35,861 --> 01:43:39,038
♪ THAT IS WHY I SING

2128
01:43:39,082 --> 01:43:40,692
Clarkson:
THIS KIND OF THINKING,

2129
01:43:40,736 --> 01:43:42,651
THAT IS, THE IDEA THAT
THERE'S ONLY THE CHRISTIANS

2130
01:43:42,694 --> 01:43:45,001
AND THEN THERE'S
EVERYONE ELSE,

2131
01:43:45,044 --> 01:43:48,047
IS AN IMPORTANT
IDEOLOGICAL PIECE

2132
01:43:48,091 --> 01:43:49,745
OF WHAT THE CHRISTIAN
RIGHT IS ABOUT.

2133
01:43:49,788 --> 01:43:53,096
WHAT THEY WANT IS
TO BE ABLE TO KILL
CHILDREN BY DAY

2134
01:43:53,139 --> 01:43:54,880
AND THEN COME HOME
TO THIS BEAUTIFUL ESTATE

2135
01:43:54,924 --> 01:43:57,274
AND BE JUST A
RESPECTABLE PART OF
THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

2136
01:43:57,318 --> 01:43:59,885
BUT THEY'RE JUST NOT
GOING TO BE ABLE TO
DO THAT ANY LONGER.

2137
01:43:59,929 --> 01:44:01,017
WE'RE GOING TO LET
THEIR NEIGHBORS KNOW

2138
01:44:01,060 --> 01:44:02,758
WHAT THEY DO FOR A LIVING

2139
01:44:02,801 --> 01:44:06,718
AND WE'RE GOING TO REALLY
SHOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD

2140
01:44:06,762 --> 01:44:08,067
THE BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS.

2141
01:44:08,111 --> 01:44:09,634
BECAUSE THEY...
THEY REALLY SHOULDN'T BE

2142
01:44:09,678 --> 01:44:11,549
A RESPECTABLE
PART OF SOCIETY.

2143
01:44:11,593 --> 01:44:14,726
THEY'RE... THEY KILL
CHILDREN FOR A LIVING.

2144
01:44:14,770 --> 01:44:16,337
AND THAT SHOULD
COME WITH A STIGMA.

2145
01:44:16,380 --> 01:44:18,426
WE WANT TO RE-ATTACH
THE STIGMA

2146
01:44:18,469 --> 01:44:21,820
TO THE KILLING OF CHILDREN
IN THIS COUNTRY.

2147
01:44:21,864 --> 01:44:23,126
Clarkson:
THE RECONSTRUCTIONISTS

2148
01:44:23,169 --> 01:44:27,609
ARE A VERY QUIET MOVEMENT.

2149
01:44:27,652 --> 01:44:30,307
THEY KNOW THAT THEY
ARE REVOLUTIONARIES,

2150
01:44:30,351 --> 01:44:33,919
THEY KNOW THAT
THE CONSTITUTION OF
THE UNITED STATES

2151
01:44:33,963 --> 01:44:37,575
STANDS AS A... AN
OBSTACLE TO THEIR
POLITICAL GOALS,

2152
01:44:37,619 --> 01:44:39,664
WHICH IS CHRISTIAN
THEOCRACY

2153
01:44:39,708 --> 01:44:42,276
BECAUSE IT CONTAINS
THE SEEDS OF...

2154
01:44:42,319 --> 01:44:45,975
AND THE ROOTS OF
RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.

2155
01:44:46,018 --> 01:44:47,977
CHRISTIAN RECONSTRUCTIONISTS
DON'T BELIEVE

2156
01:44:48,020 --> 01:44:50,153
IN RELIGIOUS FREEDOMS
AND IT'S...

2157
01:44:50,196 --> 01:44:51,589
IT IS NECESSARY,
IN THEIR VIEW,

2158
01:44:51,633 --> 01:44:54,549
TO DESTABILIZE
CONSTITUTIONAL DEMOCRACY

2159
01:44:54,592 --> 01:45:00,772
TO THE POINT WHERE A
POLITICAL ALTERNATIVE,

2160
01:45:00,816 --> 01:45:02,818
BIBLICAL CHRISTIANITY,
AS THEY UNDERSTAND IT,

2161
01:45:02,861 --> 01:45:05,124
CAN ACTUALLY BE
IMPLEMENTED.

2162
01:45:05,168 --> 01:45:07,344
THEY DON'T NECESSARILY
EXPECT TO SEE IT
IN THEIR LIFETIME,

2163
01:45:07,388 --> 01:45:10,304
BUT THEY'RE PREPARED
TO DO ORGANIZING
FOR THE LONG HAUL

2164
01:45:10,347 --> 01:45:12,958
BECAUSE THAT'S THE
CORE OF WHAT THEIR
RELIGIOUS FAITH IS ABOUT.

2165
01:45:13,002 --> 01:45:16,397
THEY UNDERSTAND THAT
THEY'RE ACTING AS MARTYRS

2166
01:45:16,440 --> 01:45:19,008
AND AS GUERRILLA WARRIORS

2167
01:45:19,051 --> 01:45:21,750
IN A PART OF A LONG-TERM
THEOCRATIC STRUGGLE.

2168
01:45:21,793 --> 01:45:23,882
IN FACT, COMPARISON
WITH IRAN

2169
01:45:23,926 --> 01:45:25,754
IS NOT OUTLANDISH,
BY ANY MEANS.

2170
01:45:25,797 --> 01:45:31,020
THE... THERE
HAS ALWAYS BEEN,

2171
01:45:31,063 --> 01:45:32,717
FOR WHATEVER REASON,

2172
01:45:32,761 --> 01:45:38,027
A HIGH LEVEL OF
RELIGIOUS EXTREMISM
IN THE UNITED STATES,

2173
01:45:38,070 --> 01:45:41,378
AND RELIGIOUS PASSION
AND FUNDAMENTALIST BELIEF

2174
01:45:41,422 --> 01:45:44,555
AND INTOLERANCE AND SO ON,
ON RELIGIOUS ISSUES.

2175
01:45:44,599 --> 01:45:47,079
AND NOW IT IS UNUSUAL.

2176
01:45:47,123 --> 01:45:49,865
THERE ARE SEVERAL
ACTIVE VIOLENT
REVOLUTIONARY MOVEMENTS

2177
01:45:49,908 --> 01:45:53,172
IN THE UNITED STATES,
AND THEY'RE CONVERGING.

2178
01:45:53,216 --> 01:45:55,566
MANY OF THEM ARE
STOCKPILING WEAPONS,

2179
01:45:55,610 --> 01:45:59,178
OTHERS ARE GOING OUT AND
COMMITTING ASSASSINATIONS

2180
01:45:59,222 --> 01:46:02,399
AND BOMBINGS TO ACCOMPLISH
THEIR STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES.

2181
01:46:02,443 --> 01:46:06,838
AND THEY UNDERSTAND
THAT THEY ARE IN
THE EARLY STAGES

2182
01:46:06,882 --> 01:46:10,233
OF A HOPED-FOR CIVIL WAR.

2183
01:46:10,276 --> 01:46:12,061
I PARKED UP
THE HILL BEHIND ME,

2184
01:46:12,104 --> 01:46:13,715
ABOUT NEAR
THE TELEPHONE POLE,

2185
01:46:13,758 --> 01:46:15,020
AND TURNED AROUND
IN MY TRUCK

2186
01:46:15,064 --> 01:46:18,241
AND WAS REACHING FOR
MY BACKPACK TO GET IT

2187
01:46:18,284 --> 01:46:20,374
AND GET OUT OF
THE TRUCK WHEN THE
BOMB EXPLODED AND...

2188
01:46:20,417 --> 01:46:21,984
OVER AT THE CLINIC.

2189
01:46:22,027 --> 01:46:24,639
AND THE CLOUD, A
BLACK CLOUD, CAME FLYING
ACROSS THE STREET.

2190
01:46:24,682 --> 01:46:25,857
I CAME OUTSIDE
THE BUILDING

2191
01:46:25,901 --> 01:46:30,079
AND SAW THE TWO BODIES
OF TWO VICTIMS.

2192
01:46:30,122 --> 01:46:31,428
THE NURSE WAS DOWN
ON THE GROUND.

2193
01:46:31,472 --> 01:46:33,169
THERE WAS A LOT OF BLOOD.

2194
01:46:33,212 --> 01:46:34,300
I REMEMBER THE...

2195
01:46:34,344 --> 01:46:36,433
ONE OF THE MEN
THAT WAS WITH THE NURSE.

2196
01:46:36,477 --> 01:46:37,521
SHE WAS...

2197
01:46:37,565 --> 01:46:39,262
HE WAS SCREAMING
FOR A TUBE.

2198
01:46:39,305 --> 01:46:40,916
HE SAID, "DOES
ANYBODY HAVE A TUBE?"

2199
01:46:40,959 --> 01:46:43,527
TO HELP HIM KEEP THE
NURSE ALIVE, I GUESS.

2200
01:46:43,571 --> 01:46:47,662
WELL, PRETTY MUCH THE
ONLY THING I CAN TELL
YOU ABOUT THAT DAY

2201
01:46:47,705 --> 01:46:49,751
IS THAT I GOT UP
AND I WENT TO WORK.

2202
01:46:49,794 --> 01:46:52,449
AND TWO WEEKS LATER,
I WOKE UP.

2203
01:46:52,493 --> 01:46:57,367
YEAH, THERE'S A FEW
MISSING BODY PARTS
HERE AND THERE.

2204
01:46:57,411 --> 01:46:59,151
MY EYE IS GONE,
LEFT EYE IS GONE.

2205
01:46:59,195 --> 01:47:01,719
MY RIGHT LEG WILL
NEVER WALK THE SAME,

2206
01:47:01,763 --> 01:47:04,069
BUT I'LL GET AROUND.

2207
01:47:04,113 --> 01:47:08,422
NOTHING'S HAPPENED
TO MY MIND OR MY VOICE.

2208
01:47:08,465 --> 01:47:10,598
Reporter:
31-YEAR-OLD
ERIC ROBERT RUDOLPH

2209
01:47:10,641 --> 01:47:11,990
IS THE SUSPECT
IN THE BOMBING

2210
01:47:12,034 --> 01:47:14,732
OF AN ABORTION CLINIC
IN ATLANTA ONE MONTH AGO.

2211
01:47:14,776 --> 01:47:17,300
HE IS ALSO SUSPECTED
OF THE ATLANTA
OLYMPICS BOMBING

2212
01:47:17,343 --> 01:47:18,954
IN JULY, 1996.

2213
01:47:18,997 --> 01:47:21,260
THE FBI ALSO LINK HIM
TO THE BOMBINGS

2214
01:47:21,304 --> 01:47:23,785
OF TWO ABORTION
CLINICS IN 1997

2215
01:47:23,828 --> 01:47:26,483
AND THE BOMBING OF
A GAY NIGHTCLUB JUST
ONE MONTH LATER.

2216
01:47:28,833 --> 01:47:32,489
I'VE ALWAYS FELT THAT...
THAT THIS COULD HAPPEN.

2217
01:47:32,533 --> 01:47:36,362
AND THIS HAS A LOT
TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW,

2218
01:47:36,406 --> 01:47:37,712
KIND OF STRANGE
THEOLOGY, BUT...

2219
01:47:37,755 --> 01:47:39,801
BUT IT IS
RELIGIOUSLY-BASED,

2220
01:47:39,844 --> 01:47:43,848
WITH PEOPLE MAKING
ASSUMPTIONS THAT...

2221
01:47:43,892 --> 01:47:45,676
THAT THEY HAVE GOD
ON THEIR SIDE

2222
01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:48,200
AND THAT GOD HAS
DIRECTED THEM TO...

2223
01:47:48,244 --> 01:47:49,724
TO DO THIS
KIND OF WORK.

2224
01:47:49,767 --> 01:47:51,160
Reporter:
THE MANHUNT FOR RUDOLPH

2225
01:47:51,203 --> 01:47:53,510
HAS TAKEN FEDERAL AGENTS
ALL OVER THE EASTERN U.S.,

2226
01:47:53,554 --> 01:47:54,990
FROM BIRMINGHAM
TO SOUTHWEST FLORIDA

2227
01:47:55,033 --> 01:47:56,513
WHERE HIS MOTHER LIVES,

2228
01:47:56,557 --> 01:47:58,994
TO NORTH CAROLINA AND
EVEN TO WASHINGTON, D.C.,

2229
01:47:59,037 --> 01:48:01,213
WHERE WITNESSES
THINK THEY SAW RUDOLPH

2230
01:48:01,257 --> 01:48:04,521
A FEW DAYS BEFORE THE
BOMBING AT ANTI-ABORTION
DEMONSTRATIONS.

2231
01:48:04,565 --> 01:48:07,132
RUDOLPH COMES OUT OF THE
CHRISTIAN IDENTITY MOVEMENT,

2232
01:48:07,176 --> 01:48:08,656
WHICH IS THE
RELIGIOUS UNDERPINNING

2233
01:48:08,699 --> 01:48:10,962
OF THE NEO-NAZI AND
WHITE SUPREMACIST MOVEMENT

2234
01:48:11,006 --> 01:48:12,616
IN THE UNITED STATES.

2235
01:48:12,660 --> 01:48:15,750
RICHARD BUTLER, THE HEAD OF
THE ARYAN NATIONS IN IDAHO,

2236
01:48:15,793 --> 01:48:18,361
FOR EXAMPLE, IS A
CHRISTIAN IDENTITY MINISTER.

2237
01:48:18,404 --> 01:48:20,537
AND... AS ARE
MANY OTHER LEADERS

2238
01:48:20,581 --> 01:48:22,147
OF THE WHITE
SUPREMACIST MOVEMENT.

2239
01:48:22,191 --> 01:48:26,108
ERIC RUDOLPH AND HIS
FAMILY WERE FOLLOWERS

2240
01:48:26,151 --> 01:48:28,240
OF A SERIES OF
CHRISTIAN IDENTITY PREACHERS.

2241
01:48:28,284 --> 01:48:32,201
ERIC RUDOLPH IS THE
PERSON WHO IS ACCUSED
OF DOING THIS

2242
01:48:32,244 --> 01:48:35,334
AND I BELIEVE IN
INNOCENT UNTIL
PROVEN GUILTY,

2243
01:48:35,378 --> 01:48:38,686
SO HE IS A SUSPECT,
MEANING THAT THERE
IS GOOD EVIDENCE

2244
01:48:38,729 --> 01:48:40,296
TO SUSPECT
THAT HE DID IT.

2245
01:48:40,339 --> 01:48:43,517
BUT, DURING
ALL OF THIS,

2246
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:45,170
ERIC RUDOLPH'S
BROTHER TRIED

2247
01:48:45,214 --> 01:48:47,738
TO MAKE SOME KIND
OF STATEMENT.

2248
01:48:47,782 --> 01:48:51,481
HE WENT OUT TO HIS,
I GUESS, HIS TOOL
SHED OR GARAGE,

2249
01:48:51,525 --> 01:48:54,658
AND SET UP A VIDEO
CAMERA; SAID,

2250
01:48:54,702 --> 01:48:56,747
"THIS IS FOR THE
FBI AND THE MEDIA."

2251
01:48:56,791 --> 01:48:59,141
HE TOOK A RADIAL
ARM SAW AND CUT
HIS OWN HAND OFF,

2252
01:48:59,184 --> 01:49:00,534
CUT HIS LEFT
HAND OFF.

2253
01:49:00,577 --> 01:49:03,362
HE HAD A
TOURNIQUET WRAPPED
AROUND HIS ARM,

2254
01:49:03,406 --> 01:49:05,016
HE DROVE HIMSELF
TO THE HOSPITAL

2255
01:49:05,060 --> 01:49:07,584
WITH JUST
THE TOURNIQUET
AROUND HIS ARM,

2256
01:49:07,628 --> 01:49:09,717
LEAVING THE HAND
BACK AT HIS HOUSE.

2257
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:12,284
THE PARAMEDICS
LATER WENT BACK,

2258
01:49:12,328 --> 01:49:15,766
RETRIEVED HIS HAND
AND IT WAS REATTACHED.

2259
01:49:15,810 --> 01:49:17,594
OF COURSE, NO TELLING
HOW WELL IT WILL WORK.

2260
01:49:17,638 --> 01:49:19,683
AND YOU JUST
GO, "WHY?"

2261
01:49:19,727 --> 01:49:22,730
APPARENTLY,
THERE ARE PEOPLE

2262
01:49:22,773 --> 01:49:25,559
WHO THINK THAT
SOME KIND OF
ACT OF VIOLENCE

2263
01:49:25,602 --> 01:49:26,908
IS GOING TO
SOLVE SOMETHING.

2264
01:49:26,951 --> 01:49:30,955
BOMBING THE CLINIC
DID NOT STOP IT.

2265
01:49:30,999 --> 01:49:33,175
BOMBING ANOTHER CLINIC
WILL NOT STOP THEM.

2266
01:49:33,218 --> 01:49:36,047
CUTTING YOUR HAND OFF
CERTAINLY DIDN'T
CHANGE ANYTHING

2267
01:49:36,091 --> 01:49:38,702
OTHER THAN HE LOST
THE USE OF HIS HAND.

2268
01:49:38,746 --> 01:49:42,793
SO, THAT TYPE
OF MENTALITY

2269
01:49:42,837 --> 01:49:45,274
I DON'T EVEN KNOW
HOW TO RELATE TO.

2270
01:49:45,317 --> 01:49:49,626
HOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND
SOMEONE WHO,

2271
01:49:49,670 --> 01:49:51,933
FOR NO OBVIOUS
REASON,

2272
01:49:51,976 --> 01:49:54,239
JUST DECIDES
TO DISMEMBER
THEMSELVES?

2273
01:49:54,283 --> 01:49:57,808
HOW DO YOU...
HOW DO YOU TALK TO
SOMEONE LIKE THAT?

2274
01:49:57,852 --> 01:49:59,549
HOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND
WHAT THEY'RE THINKING?

2275
01:49:59,593 --> 01:50:01,333
I... I DON'T KNOW.

2276
01:50:01,377 --> 01:50:03,814
HERE'S A MAN WHO IS
A GUERRILLA WARRIOR,

2277
01:50:03,858 --> 01:50:05,816
WHO COMES INTO A SITUATION

2278
01:50:05,860 --> 01:50:10,125
AND ATTACKS WHAT HE VIEWS
AS STRATEGIC TARGETS.

2279
01:50:10,168 --> 01:50:14,172
IN THE CASE OF ABORTION
CLINICS AND THE GAY BAR,

2280
01:50:14,216 --> 01:50:17,436
YOU HAVE SYMBOLS OF WOMEN'S
REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS

2281
01:50:17,480 --> 01:50:18,873
AND WOMEN'S EQUALITY

2282
01:50:18,916 --> 01:50:21,484
AND TAKING CONTROL
OF THEIR OWN DESTINY.

2283
01:50:21,527 --> 01:50:24,792
IN THE CASE OF THE GAY BAR,
A SOCIAL INSTITUTION

2284
01:50:24,835 --> 01:50:28,317
THAT'S SUPPORTIVE
OF SOMETHING THAT
RUDOLPH'S RELIGION

2285
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:30,319
WOULD CONSIDER AN
ABOMINATION BEFORE GOD.

2286
01:50:30,362 --> 01:50:32,843
AND IN THE CASE OF
THE OLYMPICS, THE...

2287
01:50:32,887 --> 01:50:36,238
THE CLASSIC CASE OF
RACE MIXING AND AN...

2288
01:50:36,281 --> 01:50:39,328
AN INSTITUTION OF
WHAT THEY CONSIDER TO BE

2289
01:50:39,371 --> 01:50:40,677
THE NEW WORLD ORDER

2290
01:50:40,721 --> 01:50:42,984
AND THE INTERNATIONALISM
THAT IT REPRESENTS.

2291
01:50:43,027 --> 01:50:47,292
SO TO UNDERMINE THE OLYMPICS
IS A STRATEGIC GOAL

2292
01:50:47,336 --> 01:50:48,990
OF WHITE SUPREMACIST
MOVEMENTS.

2293
01:50:49,033 --> 01:50:50,992
WITHOUT EVER
IDENTIFYING THEMSELVES,

2294
01:50:51,035 --> 01:50:53,951
WE KEEP FINDING THEM
EVERY PLACE YOU LOOK,

2295
01:50:53,995 --> 01:50:57,041
WHETHER IT'S THE GOVERNOR
OF OUR STATE WHO...

2296
01:50:57,085 --> 01:50:58,826
WHO HOLDS TO
THAT KIND OF THEOLOGY

2297
01:50:58,869 --> 01:51:00,741
BUT WHO COULD NEVER PUT
A LABEL TO IT, I'M SURE,

2298
01:51:00,784 --> 01:51:02,612
OR WHETHER YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE

2299
01:51:02,656 --> 01:51:04,092
WHO ARE RUNNING
FOR OFFICE,

2300
01:51:04,135 --> 01:51:05,136
OR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
CHRISTIAN COALITION,

2301
01:51:05,180 --> 01:51:06,703
PROMISE KEEPERS
OR WHATEVER.

2302
01:51:06,747 --> 01:51:10,359
BUT THE IMPETUS
BEHIND EVERYTHING

2303
01:51:10,402 --> 01:51:14,885
FROM COVENANT MARRIAGES
TO RESTRICTIONS
ON ABORTION

2304
01:51:14,929 --> 01:51:17,932
HAVE TO DO WITH TRYING
TO BRING THE UNITED STATES

2305
01:51:17,975 --> 01:51:21,022
IN LINE WITH A
PARTICULAR KIND OF A...

2306
01:51:21,065 --> 01:51:22,676
A PARTICULAR SET
OF ASSUMPTIONS

2307
01:51:22,719 --> 01:51:27,158
ABOUT WHAT THE
HEBREW TESTAMENT SAYS

2308
01:51:27,202 --> 01:51:29,247
ABOUT HOW LIVES
SHOULD BE LIVED.

2309
01:51:29,291 --> 01:51:31,075
THERE'S NOTHING THAT...

2310
01:51:31,119 --> 01:51:32,468
THAT WOULD LEAD ME
TO BELIEVE

2311
01:51:32,511 --> 01:51:35,253
THAT OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS
THIS HAS DECLINED.

2312
01:51:35,297 --> 01:51:37,429
I MEAN, IT SLOWLY
HAS INCREASED IN...

2313
01:51:37,473 --> 01:51:38,779
IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.

2314
01:51:38,822 --> 01:51:40,563
NOT ONLY IN
TERMS OF VOLUME.

2315
01:51:40,606 --> 01:51:42,565
THEY CAN BOMB ALL
THE CLINICS THEY WANT TO,

2316
01:51:42,608 --> 01:51:43,914
THEY CAN KILL ALL
THE PEOPLE THEY WANT TO,

2317
01:51:43,958 --> 01:51:45,437
BUT WOMEN ARE STILL
GOING TO GET ABORTIONS.

2318
01:51:45,481 --> 01:51:47,744
AND... AND IF...
AND IF THE...

2319
01:51:47,788 --> 01:51:49,615
THE CLINICS DON'T...
DON'T STAY OPEN,

2320
01:51:49,659 --> 01:51:50,878
THEN THEY'RE GOING
TO BE GETTING THEM

2321
01:51:50,921 --> 01:51:53,707
IN SOME OTHER...
SOME OTHER WAY.
SO IT WAS...

2322
01:51:53,750 --> 01:51:55,883
YOU CAN'T LET THEM WIN
BY SHUTTING DOWN.

2323
01:51:55,926 --> 01:51:58,015
YOU JUST HAVE
TO KEEP GOING.

2324
01:51:58,059 --> 01:51:59,321
ONCE YOU HAVE OPENED
YOUR HEART,

2325
01:51:59,364 --> 01:52:01,671
ONCE YOU HAVE ADMITTED
CHRIST INTO YOUR HEART,

2326
01:52:01,715 --> 01:52:06,415
THEN THE PRINCIPLE OF
THE LAW DWELLS WITHIN YOU.

2327
01:52:06,458 --> 01:52:07,895
AND YOU ARE
NO LONGER SUBJECT

2328
01:52:07,938 --> 01:52:09,766
TO THAT EXTERNAL
SHACKLE OF THE LAW

2329
01:52:09,810 --> 01:52:13,857
BECAUSE THE LAW FLOWERS
AND BLOOMS WITHIN YOU.

2330
01:52:13,901 --> 01:52:18,253
AND IT SHAPES YOUR
JUDGMENT AND IT
MOVES YOUR LIMBS.

2331
01:52:18,296 --> 01:52:21,169
AND YOU NO LONGER
HAVE TO BE BOUND BY
EXTERNAL SHACKLES

2332
01:52:21,212 --> 01:52:24,520
BECAUSE YOU ARE BOUND
TO THE WILL OF GOD
BY THE LOVE OF GOD

2333
01:52:24,563 --> 01:52:27,088
THROUGH THE TRUTH OF
CHRIST'S SALVATION.

2334
01:52:27,131 --> 01:52:29,046
THAT'S THE UNDERSTANDING
OF FREEDOM

2335
01:52:29,090 --> 01:52:30,787
THAT IS AT THE ROOT
OF OUR CHRISTIAN FAITH.

2336
01:52:30,831 --> 01:52:32,658
BUT DON'T YOU SEE?

2337
01:52:32,702 --> 01:52:34,748
THAT NOTION OF FREEDOM AS
AN IN-DWELLING PRINCIPLE

2338
01:52:34,791 --> 01:52:38,360
WHICH THEN LEADS TO THE
CONSEQUENCE THAT BECAUSE...

2339
01:52:38,403 --> 01:52:41,755
BECAUSE YOUR RESPECT
FOR THE LAW DWELLS WITHIN,

2340
01:52:41,798 --> 01:52:44,583
YOU CAN LIVE IN A SOCIETY

2341
01:52:44,627 --> 01:52:47,543
IN WHICH YOU ARE
A LAW UNTO YOURSELF.

2342
01:52:47,586 --> 01:52:48,762
WELL, THANK YOU
FOR COMING.

2343
01:52:48,805 --> 01:52:50,154
THIS IS THE
MARY WESTLIN HOME.

2344
01:52:50,198 --> 01:52:53,810
THIS IS MY WIFE, MARY LOU,
UP OVER HERE IN THE...

2345
01:52:53,854 --> 01:52:55,203
IN THE PORTRAIT.

2346
01:52:55,246 --> 01:52:57,118
SHE IS THE ONE THAT
RUNS EVERYTHING HERE.

2347
01:52:57,161 --> 01:52:58,684
SHE'S IN HEAVEN NOW.

2348
01:52:58,728 --> 01:53:02,688
THE LORD TOOK HER
IN 1980 AND
WE'VE ASKED JESUS

2349
01:53:02,732 --> 01:53:04,690
TO GIVE HER
SPECIAL AUTHORITY
TO RUN THIS PLACE.

2350
01:53:04,734 --> 01:53:06,823
AND SINCE THAT
TIME, WE'VE HAD 180
MOTHERS LIVE HERE

2351
01:53:06,867 --> 01:53:10,131
AND 83 BABIES BORN
DIRECTLY THROUGH THE HOME.

2352
01:53:10,174 --> 01:53:12,176
THE REST OF US
ARE LAMBS OF CHRIST

2353
01:53:12,220 --> 01:53:14,135
AND THERE'S 500 OR 600
OF US AROUND THE COUNTRY.

2354
01:53:14,178 --> 01:53:17,268
AND WHENEVER THEY CAN,
THEY CAN GET A BREAK
FROM THEIR FAMILIES,

2355
01:53:17,312 --> 01:53:19,096
THEY COME DOWN AND THEY
JOIN US AND WE GO ON IN

2356
01:53:19,140 --> 01:53:20,881
AND WE PUT OUR BODIES
BETWEEN THE BABY-KILLER

2357
01:53:20,924 --> 01:53:22,796
AND THE BABY IN FRONT
OF THE KILLING CENTER.

2358
01:53:22,839 --> 01:53:24,536
WE DON'T REALLY RESCUE,
WE GATHER AS LAMBS.

2359
01:53:24,580 --> 01:53:27,017
NORMALLY, THE PROTEST
PEOPLE THAT WE RUN INTO

2360
01:53:27,061 --> 01:53:28,714
ARE FOUR CATEGORIES
OF PEOPLE.

2361
01:53:28,758 --> 01:53:31,979
THE SATAN WORSHIPPERS,

2362
01:53:32,022 --> 01:53:33,850
AND THEY ACTIVELY
WORSHIP SATAN

2363
01:53:33,894 --> 01:53:35,678
AND THEY TAKE THE BABY
OUT OF THE WOMB

2364
01:53:35,721 --> 01:53:37,898
BY THE HIND LEG
AND THEY'LL HANG
IT UP IN FRONT...

2365
01:53:37,941 --> 01:53:40,596
HANG... HANG THE BABY
UP IN FRONT OF US
PRO-LIFERS WHO ARE THERE,

2366
01:53:40,639 --> 01:53:42,032
AND THEN THEY'LL
BARBECUE THIS BABY

2367
01:53:42,076 --> 01:53:43,817
RIGHT IN FRONT OF US
ON A BARBECUE PIT.

2368
01:53:43,860 --> 01:53:45,949
IT'S MACABRE,
IT'S SATANIC.

2369
01:53:45,993 --> 01:53:49,300
THE OTHERS THERE
ARE HOMOSEXUALS

2370
01:53:49,344 --> 01:53:56,873
AND THOSE WHO ARE PAID
BY THE BABY-KILLER
TO BE AROUND HIM.

2371
01:53:56,917 --> 01:54:02,531
AND THOSE PEOPLE...
WHO ARE PRO-DEATH.

2372
01:54:02,574 --> 01:54:05,099
THOSE ARE THE CATEGORIES
OF PEOPLE IN FRONT
OF THE DEATH CENTER.

2373
01:54:05,142 --> 01:54:06,927
I ASK YOU AND I INVITE YOU
AND I CHALLENGE YOU

2374
01:54:06,970 --> 01:54:08,667
TO GO IN AND STUDY
THOSE PEOPLE

2375
01:54:08,711 --> 01:54:10,974
WHO ARE AT THOSE
KILLING CENTERS
ON THE OTHER SIDE.

2376
01:54:11,018 --> 01:54:13,150
STUDY THEM.
FIND OUT WHO THEY ARE.

2377
01:54:13,194 --> 01:54:14,325
DON'T BELIEVE US.

2378
01:54:14,369 --> 01:54:16,066
GO IN AND FIND OUT
FOR YOURSELF.

2379
01:54:16,110 --> 01:54:19,200
IT'S A... IT'S A
MACABRE, DEPRESSING
SATANIC ATMOSPHERE

2380
01:54:19,243 --> 01:54:20,592
WHERE THEY'VE BEEN
SEDUCED BY SATAN.

2381
01:54:20,636 --> 01:54:21,985
THEY'RE PROBABLY
VERY BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE.

2382
01:54:22,029 --> 01:54:24,509
AND WE PRAY FOR THE
BABY-KILLER EVERY DAY.

2383
01:54:24,553 --> 01:54:25,728
WE WANT HIM IN HEAVEN.

2384
01:54:25,771 --> 01:54:27,382
BUT WE WANT HIM
THERE SOON.

2385
01:54:27,425 --> 01:54:29,819
SO WE PRAY FOR
HIS HAPPY DEATH.

2386
01:54:29,863 --> 01:54:44,268
[ ♪♪♪ ]

2387
01:54:56,715 --> 01:54:59,283
Woman:
SCOTT, HE'S THE
FATHER OF THE BABY,

2388
01:54:59,327 --> 01:55:02,243
BUT WE'RE...
WE'RE VERY GOOD FRIENDS.

2389
01:55:02,286 --> 01:55:05,811
WE HAD BEEN MORE
THAN FRIENDS AT ONE TIME,

2390
01:55:05,855 --> 01:55:08,162
BUT NOT ANYMORE.

2391
01:55:08,205 --> 01:55:12,644
[ ♪♪♪ ]

2392
01:55:12,688 --> 01:55:19,956
WE BROKE UP ABOUT,
OH, CLOSE TO TWO MONTHS AGO.

2393
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:21,697
AND THE RELATION...
THE RELATIONSHIP

2394
01:55:21,740 --> 01:55:26,658
WAS JUST NOT WORKING OUT
AND WE BROKE IT OFF,

2395
01:55:26,702 --> 01:55:30,227
AND I MOVED AWAY
FOR A WHILE AND
DECIDED TO MOVE BACK

2396
01:55:30,271 --> 01:55:33,491
AND NOT RUN AWAY FROM HIM
AND MY FEELINGS.

2397
01:55:33,535 --> 01:55:38,061
AND I CAME BACK AND HE CAME
VISITING ONCE IN A WHILE

2398
01:55:38,105 --> 01:55:40,498
AND WE ENDED UP
HAVING UNPROTECTED SEX.

2399
01:55:40,542 --> 01:55:42,413
AND HERE I AM.

2400
01:55:42,457 --> 01:55:48,724
[ ♪♪♪ ]

2401
01:55:48,767 --> 01:55:51,466
MANY PEOPLE,
UM, ARE SURPRISED

2402
01:55:51,509 --> 01:55:53,729
WHEN WE BRING FORWARD
THE NOTION

2403
01:55:53,772 --> 01:55:55,600
OR BRING FORWARD
THE REALITY

2404
01:55:55,644 --> 01:56:00,083
THAT THE ROMAN
CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS
NEVER HAD A POSITION

2405
01:56:00,127 --> 01:56:01,998
ON WHEN THE FETUS
BECOMES A PERSON.

2406
01:56:02,042 --> 01:56:04,479
ULTIMATELY, THE REALITY
IS NONE OF US KNOW.

2407
01:56:04,522 --> 01:56:06,437
THE CHURCH DOESN'T KNOW.

2408
01:56:06,481 --> 01:56:08,613
THE COURTS DON'T KNOW.

2409
01:56:08,657 --> 01:56:10,006
DOCTORS DON'T KNOW.

2410
01:56:10,050 --> 01:56:11,747
NO ONE KNOWS.

2411
01:56:11,790 --> 01:56:14,576
AND THE QUESTION
IN THE 20th CENTURY,

2412
01:56:14,619 --> 01:56:16,621
BOTH IN A RELIGIOUS
CONTEXT

2413
01:56:16,665 --> 01:56:18,101
AND I WOULD SAY
IN A SECULAR CONTEXT,

2414
01:56:18,145 --> 01:56:20,974
IS WHAT DO WE DO
IN SITUATIONS?

2415
01:56:21,017 --> 01:56:25,021
WHAT IS THE MORAL
AND ETHICAL THING
TO DO AS A SOCIETY

2416
01:56:25,065 --> 01:56:28,546
IN SITUATIONS WHERE
THERE ARE FACTS
THAT WE DO NOT KNOW?

2417
01:56:28,590 --> 01:56:33,116
THE ABORTION AREA IS A
FLASHPOINT, I THINK, FOR...

2418
01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:36,815
FOR ETHICS FOR
THE HUMAN CONDITION.

2419
01:56:36,859 --> 01:56:41,342
IT'S... IT INVOLVES
THE MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,

2420
01:56:41,385 --> 01:56:44,519
PREGNANCY,
AND YET IT ALSO INVOLVES

2421
01:56:44,562 --> 01:56:47,652
THE MOST MIND-BENDING
SET OF FACTS,

2422
01:56:47,696 --> 01:56:52,831
ORDINARILY, ONE
HUMAN BEING LIVING
INSIDE ANOTHER.

2423
01:56:52,875 --> 01:56:59,664
FROM THE STANDPOINT
OF PRO-LIFE INDIVIDUALS,

2424
01:56:59,708 --> 01:57:02,841
HUMAN LIFE BEGINS
AT CONCEPTION.

2425
01:57:02,885 --> 01:57:05,801
ONE CANNOT BE
MORALLY COMPLICIT

2426
01:57:05,844 --> 01:57:08,325
IN THE TAKING
OF ANOTHER LIFE,

2427
01:57:08,369 --> 01:57:11,459
ESPECIALLY THE TAKING
OF AN INNOCENT LIFE,

2428
01:57:11,502 --> 01:57:16,986
AND THAT THAT MORAL BELIEF
FOR PEOPLE OF FAITH

2429
01:57:17,030 --> 01:57:20,076
IS BACKED UP
BY GENETICISTS.

2430
01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:23,601
AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S
A GENETICIST IN THE WORLD

2431
01:57:23,645 --> 01:57:26,909
WHO WOULD DENY THE
COMPLETENESS OF HUMAN LIFE,

2432
01:57:26,952 --> 01:57:30,826
IN TERMS OF ALL OF
ITS PHYSICAL INGREDIENTS,

2433
01:57:30,869 --> 01:57:35,831
AGAIN, IN THE FIRST
FERTILIZED CELL.

2434
01:57:35,874 --> 01:57:44,927
AND THE OTHER SIDE,
QUITE FRANKLY, DOESN'T
REALLY DENY...

2435
01:57:44,970 --> 01:57:49,888
CAN'T DENY THE EXISTENCE,
THE PHYSICAL REALITY

2436
01:57:49,932 --> 01:57:52,674
OF THE SEPARATE
HUMAN LIFE.

2437
01:57:52,717 --> 01:57:55,329
WHAT THEY DENY IS...

2438
01:58:01,074 --> 01:58:05,078
ITS CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE
AND ITS MEANING

2439
01:58:05,121 --> 01:58:09,647
WITH RESPECT TO THE
WOMAN WHO'S CARRYING
THE PREGNANT...

2440
01:58:09,691 --> 01:58:13,825
CARRYING THE CHILD.

2441
01:58:13,869 --> 01:58:18,874
AND, AGAIN, IT BECOMES
THIS CLASH OF ABSOLUTES

2442
01:58:18,917 --> 01:58:23,922
BETWEEN, ON THE
ONE HAND, THIS CLAIM
OF ABSOLUTE AUTONOMY

2443
01:58:23,966 --> 01:58:29,624
AND A CLAIM THAT
HUMAN LIFE ABSOLUTELY
MUST BE PROTECTED.

2444
01:58:32,801 --> 01:58:38,241
THE CLAIM OF ABSOLUTE
AUTONOMY IS VERY
SELF-DIRECTED.

2445
01:58:38,285 --> 01:58:44,117
THE CLAIM OF
HUMAN LIFE BEING
ABSOLUTELY PROTECTED

2446
01:58:44,160 --> 01:58:47,903
IS ONE THAT HAS
GREAT HISTORICAL LINEAGE.

2447
01:58:47,946 --> 01:58:52,995
IT IS, AFTER ALL,
A VINDICATION OF
A SELF-EVIDENT TRUTH

2448
01:58:53,038 --> 01:58:57,521
THAT RIGHT IS...
THAT LIFE IS AN
INALIENABLE RIGHT.

2449
01:59:00,829 --> 01:59:05,399
HOW TO GET THESE PEOPLE
TO TALK TO EACH OTHER?

2450
01:59:05,442 --> 01:59:07,357
ULTIMATELY,
OF COURSE, THE...

2451
01:59:07,401 --> 01:59:10,491
THE WHOLE DECISION
IS BASED ON QUESTIONS

2452
01:59:10,534 --> 01:59:12,536
ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK
MAKES KILLING WRONG.

2453
01:59:12,580 --> 01:59:16,105
AND I THINK THAT'S
ONE REASON WHY...

2454
01:59:16,149 --> 01:59:19,282
THE PHILOSOPHICAL
DISCUSSION WITH THE...

2455
01:59:19,326 --> 01:59:21,458
WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC
HAS NOT GOT VERY FAR,

2456
01:59:21,502 --> 01:59:23,591
BECAUSE PEOPLE
HAVEN'T REALLY
CONFRONTED THAT ISSUE.

2457
01:59:23,634 --> 01:59:26,420
THEY'VE TRIED TO
SAY, "WELL, THE FETUS
IS A HUMAN BEING,"

2458
01:59:26,463 --> 01:59:28,248
OR, "THE FETUS IS NOT
A HUMAN BEING,"

2459
01:59:28,291 --> 01:59:30,119
JUST ACCEPTING
THE PREMISE THAT...

2460
01:59:30,163 --> 01:59:33,035
THAT, YOU KNOW,
KILLING INNOCENT HUMAN
BEINGS IS ALWAYS WRONG.

2461
01:59:33,078 --> 01:59:36,125
I THINK IF THEY'D
GONE A LITTLE BIT
FURTHER AND SAID,

2462
01:59:36,169 --> 01:59:38,083
"WELL, YOU KNOW,
YES, I MEAN, IN ONE SENSE

2463
01:59:38,127 --> 01:59:39,737
THE FETUS OBVIOUSLY
IS A HUMAN BEING.

2464
01:59:39,781 --> 01:59:44,394
IT'S A MEMBER OF THE
SPECIES HOMO SAPIENS
AND IT'S ALIVE."

2465
01:59:44,438 --> 01:59:46,875
BUT WHAT ARE
THE CHARACTERISTICS

2466
01:59:46,918 --> 01:59:49,660
THAT MAKE IT
PARTICULARLY WRONG
TO KILL A HUMAN BEING?

2467
01:59:49,704 --> 01:59:52,663
WHY DO WE THINK THAT
KILLING A HUMAN BEING
IS NORMALLY WRONG?

2468
01:59:52,707 --> 01:59:54,665
AND I THINK IF YOU START
ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS,

2469
01:59:54,709 --> 01:59:58,974
YOU GET TO SEE
THAT IT'S NOT JUST
BEING A MEMBER

2470
01:59:59,017 --> 02:00:01,368
OF THE SPECIES
HOMO SAPIENS THAT
MAKES KILLING WRONG.

2471
02:00:01,411 --> 02:00:04,501
IT'S, RATHER,
THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW,

2472
02:00:04,545 --> 02:00:07,417
US, YOU AND ME, AND
ANYONE ELSE LISTENING HERE,

2473
02:00:07,461 --> 02:00:09,419
IS A BEING THAT IS...

2474
02:00:09,463 --> 02:00:10,725
HAS GOT CERTAIN
CAPACITIES.

2475
02:00:10,768 --> 02:00:14,729
CAN THINK, CAN WANT
TO GO ON LIVING,

2476
02:00:14,772 --> 02:00:16,426
YOU KNOW, CAN... IS...
IS AWARE OF THE FACT

2477
02:00:16,470 --> 02:00:18,602
THAT HE OR SHE IS LIVING
AND WANTS TO GO ON LIVING.

2478
02:00:18,646 --> 02:00:20,430
AND ALL OF THOSE
THINGS CONTRIBUTE

2479
02:00:20,474 --> 02:00:22,954
TO WHY WE THINK THAT
FOR SOMEONE, SAY,

2480
02:00:22,998 --> 02:00:26,044
JUST RANDOMLY TO SHOOT
PEOPLE IN THE STREET
IS A TERRIBLE THING.

2481
02:00:26,088 --> 02:00:27,481
BUT NONE OF THAT APPLIES
TO THE FETUS.

2482
02:00:27,524 --> 02:00:28,917
THE FETUS IS...

2483
02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:30,571
WELL, WHEN MOST
ABORTIONS ARE PERFORMED

2484
02:00:30,614 --> 02:00:31,833
THE FETUS IS NOT
EVEN CONSCIOUS

2485
02:00:31,876 --> 02:00:35,402
AND IT'S CERTAINLY NEVER
A BEING WHO CAN THINK,

2486
02:00:35,445 --> 02:00:36,925
"I WANT TO GO ON LIVING."

2487
02:00:36,968 --> 02:00:39,928
IF IT DOESN'T
MATTER TO A BEING
WHAT'S DONE TO IT,

2488
02:00:39,971 --> 02:00:41,277
THEN IT'S HARD TO SEE
THAT IT HAS

2489
02:00:41,321 --> 02:00:48,328
EXACTLY THE SAME MORAL
STANDING AS YOU OR I DO.

2490
02:00:48,371 --> 02:00:51,287
GAMETES ALSO ARE HUMAN
IN THAT SENSE,

2491
02:00:51,331 --> 02:00:53,550
SPERM AND OVA,
AND YET WE DON'T THINK

2492
02:00:53,594 --> 02:00:57,728
THAT THEY HAVE THE
SAME MORAL STATUS
AS YOU AND I DO.

2493
02:00:57,772 --> 02:01:02,255
EVERY TIME A MAN
AND A WOMAN REFRAIN
FROM HAVING SEX

2494
02:01:02,298 --> 02:01:05,823
THAT MEANS A
POTENTIAL SPERM DIES

2495
02:01:05,867 --> 02:01:07,695
AND A POTENTIAL EGG DIES.

2496
02:01:07,738 --> 02:01:10,393
WE'RE NOT GOING TO,
HOWEVER, REQUIRE COUPLES

2497
02:01:10,437 --> 02:01:12,743
TO HAVE SEX AT
EVERY POSSIBLE MOMENT.

2498
02:01:12,787 --> 02:01:14,223
THERE ARE SOME
RELIGIOUS TRADITIONS

2499
02:01:14,267 --> 02:01:17,313
THAT DO REQUIRE THAT.

2500
02:01:17,357 --> 02:01:19,315
THE EXTREMELY
ORTHODOX JEW

2501
02:01:19,359 --> 02:01:22,492
SAYS YOU MUST MULTIPLY

2502
02:01:22,536 --> 02:01:24,799
AND HAVE AS MANY CHILDREN
AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN.

2503
02:01:24,842 --> 02:01:28,324
AND EVERY MISSED
OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SEX

2504
02:01:28,368 --> 02:01:31,762
DURING A PERIOD OF TIME
WHEN THE WOMAN IS FERTILE

2505
02:01:31,806 --> 02:01:34,417
IS, IN EFFECT, A
VIOLATION OF THE ORDER

2506
02:01:34,461 --> 02:01:36,114
TO MULTIPLY AND
BE FRUITFUL.

2507
02:01:36,158 --> 02:01:38,160
I DON'T THINK MOST PEOPLE
TAKE THAT ARGUMENT

2508
02:01:38,203 --> 02:01:40,728
VERY SERIOUSLY TODAY
IN OUR SOCIETY.

2509
02:01:40,771 --> 02:01:44,993
AND ONCE ONE BEGINS
TO DRAW LINES,

2510
02:01:45,036 --> 02:01:47,952
THE LINE BETWEEN
REFUSING TO HAVE SEX,

2511
02:01:47,996 --> 02:01:50,303
HAVING SEX WITH A CONDOM,

2512
02:01:50,346 --> 02:01:53,915
TAKING THE PILL THE MORNING
AFTER YOU'VE HAD SEX,

2513
02:01:53,958 --> 02:01:56,178
TAKING THE PILL
THREE WEEKS LATER,

2514
02:01:56,221 --> 02:01:58,180
HAVING AN ABORTION
A MONTH LATER,

2515
02:01:58,223 --> 02:02:02,793
BEGINS TO BE A VERY,
VERY DIFFICULT POINT

2516
02:02:02,837 --> 02:02:05,927
AT WHICH TO DRAW ABSOLUTE
BLACK AND WHITE LINES.

2517
02:02:05,970 --> 02:02:08,103
I THINK ONE WAY TO...

2518
02:02:08,146 --> 02:02:10,801
AT LEAST THAT I FIND
HELPFUL TO THINK ABOUT THIS,

2519
02:02:10,845 --> 02:02:14,892
IS TO TRY TO,
AGAIN, MOVE AWAY

2520
02:02:14,936 --> 02:02:17,330
FROM A VERY STRICT
RIGHTS LANGUAGE,

2521
02:02:17,373 --> 02:02:19,070
WHICH OFTEN LEADS
TO A "RIGHT OR WRONG",

2522
02:02:19,114 --> 02:02:21,421
"YES OR NO" APPROACH
TO THESE ISSUES.

2523
02:02:21,464 --> 02:02:26,295
AND INSTEAD TO
TRY TO MAKE SENSE

2524
02:02:26,339 --> 02:02:32,040
OF THE INTERESTS, THE...
THE NEEDS, THE...

2525
02:02:32,083 --> 02:02:35,652
THE CONTEXT OF...
OF THE PREGNANT WOMAN

2526
02:02:35,696 --> 02:02:37,306
AND OF THE FETUS.

2527
02:02:37,350 --> 02:02:39,917
PRO-LIFERS THINK
THAT ABORTION IS WRONG

2528
02:02:39,961 --> 02:02:42,659
BECAUSE IT'S
INTRINSICALLY WRONG TO
DESTROY A HUMAN LIFE.

2529
02:02:42,703 --> 02:02:46,533
AND DWORKIN THINKS THAT
PEOPLE WHO ARE PRO-CHOICE

2530
02:02:46,576 --> 02:02:48,970
ALSO THINK THAT IT'S
INTRINSICALLY WRONG

2531
02:02:49,013 --> 02:02:50,450
TO DESTROY HUMAN LIFE.

2532
02:02:50,493 --> 02:02:54,323
BUT THEY THINK THAT IT'S
IMPORTANT TO ALLOW WOMEN

2533
02:02:54,367 --> 02:02:56,978
TO MAKE THIS CHOICE
FOR THEMSELVES
BECAUSE THERE...

2534
02:02:57,021 --> 02:03:01,069
IT'S IMPORTANT...
HER HUMAN LIFE ALSO
HAS INTRINSIC VALUE.

2535
02:03:01,112 --> 02:03:06,291
AND TO BE FORCED TO
CARRY A PREGNANCY TO TERM

2536
02:03:06,335 --> 02:03:08,032
WHEN SHE DOESN'T WANT TO
OR ISN'T YET READY

2537
02:03:08,076 --> 02:03:11,601
TO BECOME A MOTHER IS
ALSO A... A WAY OF...

2538
02:03:11,645 --> 02:03:13,864
OF NOT RESPECTING
THE INTRINSIC VALUE
OF HUMAN LIFE.

2539
02:03:29,663 --> 02:03:31,752
Woman: [ On speaker ]
Can I help you? Do you
have an appointment?

2540
02:03:31,795 --> 02:03:33,710
YES, I DO.
[ Lock clicks ]

2541
02:03:39,150 --> 02:03:40,282
HI.
HI.

2542
02:03:40,325 --> 02:03:41,631
AND YOUR NAME?
STACEY SAUNDER.

2543
02:03:41,675 --> 02:03:43,633
HI, STACEY.

2544
02:03:43,677 --> 02:03:45,853
JUST A FEW FORMS
HERE FOR YOU.

2545
02:03:45,896 --> 02:03:47,942
THE FIRST TWO ARE
INFORMATIONAL FORMS

2546
02:03:47,985 --> 02:03:50,945
AND THEN A COUPLE
OF FORMS YOU'LL NEED
TO FILL OUT FOR US,

2547
02:03:50,988 --> 02:03:52,468
AND THEN YOU
CAN BRING THEM
RIGHT UP TO ME

2548
02:03:52,512 --> 02:03:53,469
AS SOON AS YOU'RE
FINISHED, OKAY?

2549
02:03:53,513 --> 02:03:54,557
OKAY.
ALRIGHTY.

2550
02:03:54,601 --> 02:03:55,384
THANKS.
THANKS.

2551
02:03:57,430 --> 02:03:59,040
THERE'S THE
CUPS BEHIND THE
CURTAIN HERE.

2552
02:03:59,083 --> 02:04:01,042
JUST A SMALL AMOUNT.
YOU CAN BRING IT
BACK TO THE LAB

2553
02:04:01,085 --> 02:04:02,522
AND THEN I NEED
TO GET A SMALL
BLOOD SAMPLE.

2554
02:04:02,565 --> 02:04:03,479
OKAY.

2555
02:04:04,567 --> 02:04:05,873
EVERYONE IN THE DEBATE

2556
02:04:05,916 --> 02:04:09,224
IS OPPOSED TO
OUTRIGHT INFANTICIDE.

2557
02:04:09,267 --> 02:04:12,836
THAT IS, TAKING
A LIVE CHILD AND
DECIDING TO KILL THEM

2558
02:04:12,880 --> 02:04:14,534
BECAUSE IT'S
TOO MUCH TROUBLE TO
TAKE CARE OF THEM.

2559
02:04:14,577 --> 02:04:16,144
EVERYONE AGREES ON THAT.

2560
02:04:16,187 --> 02:04:18,842
EVERYONE AGREES,
I SUPPOSE,

2561
02:04:18,886 --> 02:04:22,498
THAT WOMEN ARE ALLOWED
TO WASH THEIR HANDS,

2562
02:04:22,542 --> 02:04:25,370
ALTHOUGH, I SUPPOSE...
I GUESS YOU COULD
MAKE A CASE,

2563
02:04:25,414 --> 02:04:27,329
IF YOU WENT OVER TO
THE BIOLOGY DEPARTMENT,

2564
02:04:27,372 --> 02:04:30,027
THAT WHEN A WOMAN
WASHES HER HANDS,

2565
02:04:30,071 --> 02:04:33,901
LOTS OF CELLS FLAKE OFF
AND SOME FUTURE TECHNOLOGY

2566
02:04:33,944 --> 02:04:36,033
MIGHT BE ABLE TO
USE THE INFORMATION
IN THOSE CELLS

2567
02:04:36,077 --> 02:04:37,992
TO CONSTRUCT A
POTENTIAL CHILD.

2568
02:04:38,035 --> 02:04:41,082
SO SOMEWHERE BETWEEN,
SAY, WASHING YOUR HANDS

2569
02:04:41,125 --> 02:04:46,261
AND KILLING
YOUR THREE-YEAR-OLD,

2570
02:04:46,304 --> 02:04:49,482
SOMEWHERE BETWEEN
THAT THERE ARE
DECISION TO BE...

2571
02:04:49,525 --> 02:04:51,179
THERE ARE DECISIONS
TO BE MADE

2572
02:04:51,222 --> 02:04:55,662
ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO
BALANCE WHAT WE CALL LIFE,

2573
02:04:55,705 --> 02:04:58,316
WHICH, IN FACT,
IS THERE IN THE
CELLS ON YOUR HAND,

2574
02:04:58,360 --> 02:05:00,710
HOW WE'RE GOING TO BALANCE
WHAT WE CALL LIFE

2575
02:05:00,754 --> 02:05:02,407
AGAINST LOTS OF
OTHER PROBLEMS.

2576
02:05:02,451 --> 02:05:04,584
AND THOSE DECISIONS
ARE NOT SIMPLE.

2577
02:05:04,627 --> 02:05:09,110
PEOPLE WHO SAY,
"WELL, I KNOW IT'S AT
THIS NUMBER OF DAYS,"

2578
02:05:09,153 --> 02:05:11,547
THEY CAN'T BE
TAKEN SERIOUSLY.

2579
02:05:11,591 --> 02:05:14,289
WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT AMBIGUOUS ISSUES

2580
02:05:14,332 --> 02:05:16,552
OF A COMPLICATED KIND

2581
02:05:16,596 --> 02:05:20,077
WHERE YOU HAVE TO BALANCE
CONFLICTING INTERESTS
AND CONCERNS,

2582
02:05:20,121 --> 02:05:22,558
AS IS GENERALLY THE CASE
IN HUMAN LIFE.

2583
02:05:22,602 --> 02:05:25,561
YOU'RE NOT GOING
TO GET THE ANSWERS
FROM HOLY TEXTS.

2584
02:05:25,605 --> 02:05:27,998
YOU'RE NOT GOING
TO GET THE ANSWERS
FROM BIOLOGISTS.

2585
02:05:28,042 --> 02:05:31,915
THESE ARE MATTERS
OF HUMAN CONCERN

2586
02:05:31,959 --> 02:05:35,702
THAT HAVE TO BE DISCUSSED
SERIOUSLY, REASONABLY,

2587
02:05:35,745 --> 02:05:40,576
WITH ATTENTION
TO THE ARRAY OF VALUES,

2588
02:05:40,620 --> 02:05:42,796
DIFFERING VALUES, OFTEN,
THAT PEOPLE HAVE

2589
02:05:42,839 --> 02:05:44,101
AND DIFFERENT DECISIONS
THEY MAY COME TO

2590
02:05:44,145 --> 02:05:45,973
UNDER SIMILAR
CIRCUMSTANCES.

2591
02:05:46,016 --> 02:05:48,497
YOU ARE PROPHETIC PEOPLE

2592
02:05:48,541 --> 02:05:50,586
AND I JUST WANT
TO AFFIRM YOU TONIGHT.

2593
02:05:50,630 --> 02:05:51,935
AND I WANT
TO AFFIRM YOU TO SAY

2594
02:05:51,979 --> 02:05:54,590
YOU ARE THE PROPHETIC
PEOPLE OF GOD.

2595
02:05:54,634 --> 02:05:56,940
GOD'S WORD IS SUPREME.

2596
02:05:56,984 --> 02:05:58,812
HIS WORD IS THE STANDARD.

2597
02:05:58,855 --> 02:06:00,770
[ Applause ]

2598
02:06:00,814 --> 02:06:05,688
PSALM 119:89. GOD'S
WORD IS ESTABLISHED FOREVER.

2599
02:06:05,732 --> 02:06:07,255
Congregants:
YES!

2600
02:06:07,298 --> 02:06:10,998
MY FOCUS IS ON HIS
WORD. NOT POLLS,
NOT OPINION POLLS,

2601
02:06:11,041 --> 02:06:14,436
NOT FOCUS GROUPS,
BUT HIS WORD!

2602
02:06:14,479 --> 02:06:15,524
Various:
YES!

2603
02:06:15,568 --> 02:06:18,658
HIS UNCHANGING WORD.

2604
02:06:18,701 --> 02:06:22,052
MY VISION MUST BE
LOCKED ON HIS WORD

2605
02:06:22,096 --> 02:06:25,273
LIKE MICHAEL JOHNSON'S
EYES WERE LOCKED ON
THE FINISH LINE.

2606
02:06:25,316 --> 02:06:29,320
I AM MOVED NOT BY WHAT
CULTURE SAYS ABOUT ME,

2607
02:06:29,364 --> 02:06:31,018
NOT WHAT THE MEDIA
SAYS ABOUT ME,

2608
02:06:31,061 --> 02:06:33,281
NOT EVEN WHAT THE CHURCH
SAYS ABOUT ME,

2609
02:06:33,324 --> 02:06:36,719
BUT WHAT THE WORD OF GOD
HAS TO SAY ABOUT ME.

2610
02:06:36,763 --> 02:06:38,808
I AM FIXED ON THE WORD!

2611
02:06:38,852 --> 02:06:40,941
[ Applause ]

2612
02:06:40,984 --> 02:06:43,247
FOR THOSE WHO SAY,
"GOD TOLD ME

2613
02:06:43,291 --> 02:06:45,728
THAT YOU CAN'T
HAVE AN ABORTION,"
I IGNORE THAT.

2614
02:06:45,772 --> 02:06:48,296
I MEAN, THAT KIND OF
FUNDAMENTALIST APPROACH

2615
02:06:48,339 --> 02:06:51,081
TO GOD TELLING YOU
WHAT THE ANSWER TO
EVERY PROBLEM IS,

2616
02:06:51,125 --> 02:06:54,258
I DON'T THINK,
IN A SECULAR SOCIETY,

2617
02:06:54,302 --> 02:06:55,999
DESERVES TO BE
GIVEN MUCH WEIGHT.

2618
02:06:56,043 --> 02:06:59,350
RELIGION ALSO GIVES
YOU A SET OF VALUES

2619
02:06:59,394 --> 02:07:03,267
WITH WHICH TO ANALYZE
A PROBLEM INTELLIGENTLY.

2620
02:07:03,311 --> 02:07:06,967
AND I THINK THAT
MANY OF THE VALUES WE
HAVE IN OUR SOCIETY,

2621
02:07:07,010 --> 02:07:09,012
VALUES FAVORING LIFE,
VALUES FAVORING CHOICE,

2622
02:07:09,056 --> 02:07:12,102
ORIGINALLY COME
FROM RELIGION.

2623
02:07:12,146 --> 02:07:14,757
MUCH OF ALL MORALITY
IS RELIGIOUSLY-BASED.

2624
02:07:14,801 --> 02:07:16,759
BUT RELIGION IS SO BROAD

2625
02:07:16,803 --> 02:07:19,936
THAT IT CAN PROVIDE
ANY ANSWER YOU WANT.

2626
02:07:19,980 --> 02:07:23,897
THE BIBLE,
LIKE ANY COMPLEX
HISTORICAL TEXT,

2627
02:07:23,940 --> 02:07:27,596
PRESENTS A GOD
WHO CAN BE CALLED UPON

2628
02:07:27,640 --> 02:07:29,642
TO JUSTIFY MASS GENOCIDE

2629
02:07:29,685 --> 02:07:33,254
AND WHO CAN BE CALLED UPON
TO JUSTIFY MERCY

2630
02:07:33,297 --> 02:07:35,125
TO WIDOWS AND ORPHANS.

2631
02:07:35,169 --> 02:07:37,475
SAME GOD. DEPENDS
WHAT YOU WANT TO...

2632
02:07:37,519 --> 02:07:40,087
WHAT PARTS OF THE TEXT
YOU WANT TO INTERPRET.

2633
02:07:40,130 --> 02:07:43,699
THE CONCEPTION OF GOD
IS OBVIOUSLY RELEVANT

2634
02:07:43,743 --> 02:07:46,136
FOR THOSE
WHO BELIEVE IN GOD.

2635
02:07:46,180 --> 02:07:48,399
AND FOR MANY OF THEM,

2636
02:07:48,443 --> 02:07:51,925
THEIR VIEWS WILL
FLOW FROM THAT.

2637
02:07:51,968 --> 02:07:55,015
BUT IT DOESN'T
DETERMINE THEIR VIEWS
BECAUSE, OF COURSE,

2638
02:07:55,058 --> 02:07:58,540
YOU CAN HAVE
FUNDAMENTALIST CHRISTIANS
WHO WILL BELIEVE THAT...

2639
02:07:58,583 --> 02:08:01,369
BELIEVE IN GOD AND THINK
THAT, FOR THAT REASON,

2640
02:08:01,412 --> 02:08:04,546
ABORTION IS WRONG,
EMBRYO EXPERIMENTATION
IS WRONG,

2641
02:08:04,589 --> 02:08:07,114
EUTHANASIA IS WRONG
AND SO ON.

2642
02:08:07,157 --> 02:08:08,768
AND YOU CAN HAVE OTHER,
MORE LIBERAL CHRISTIANS,

2643
02:08:08,811 --> 02:08:11,118
WHO WILL BELIEVE IN GOD,

2644
02:08:11,161 --> 02:08:13,903
BUT WHO WILL THINK
THAT ALL OF THOSE THINGS
CAN BE JUSTIFIED.

2645
02:08:13,947 --> 02:08:18,081
SO... THE QUESTION OF GOD

2646
02:08:18,125 --> 02:08:20,388
DOESN'T DETERMINE THE
ANSWERS TO THESE ISSUES.

2647
02:08:20,431 --> 02:08:22,869
IN THE END, HUMAN
BEINGS HAVE TO DECIDE.

2648
02:08:22,912 --> 02:08:24,871
IN THE END, EACH
OF US HAS TO DECIDE,

2649
02:08:24,914 --> 02:08:27,438
USING WHATEVER RESOURCES
WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US:

2650
02:08:27,482 --> 02:08:29,614
RELIGION, OUR MIND,

2651
02:08:29,658 --> 02:08:32,182
OUR SENSE OF WHAT IS RIGHT
AND WRONG IN SOCIETY,

2652
02:08:32,226 --> 02:08:35,403
THIS IS A CHOICE THAT
CANNOT BE MADE BY OTHERS.

2653
02:08:35,446 --> 02:08:37,405
STACEY, I'M STEPHANIE,

2654
02:08:37,448 --> 02:08:39,494
AND WE'RE GOING
TO DO YOUR MEDICAL
HISTORY NOW, OKAY?

2655
02:08:39,537 --> 02:08:42,671
OKAY. AND THIS IS JUST
QUESTION AND
ANSWER. ALRIGHTY?

2656
02:08:42,715 --> 02:08:45,935
SO WHEN IS YOUR
BIRTH DATE?
7/7/68.

2657
02:08:45,979 --> 02:08:48,808
7/7/68.
AND HOW OLD DOES
THAT MAKE YOU?

2658
02:08:48,851 --> 02:08:50,766
28.
28? OKAY.

2659
02:08:50,810 --> 02:08:51,898
AND WHAT'S
YOUR OCCUPATION?

2660
02:08:51,941 --> 02:08:54,422
I'M A NURSING
ASSISTANT.
OKAY.

2661
02:08:54,465 --> 02:08:57,686
AND HOW MANY TOTAL
TIMES HAVE YOU BEEN
PREGNANT, ALTOGETHER?

2662
02:08:57,730 --> 02:09:00,950
UM... FIVE.
OKAY. FIVE.

2663
02:09:00,994 --> 02:09:02,996
AND ANY LIVING
CHILDREN?

2664
02:09:03,039 --> 02:09:04,606
ONE.
ONE LIVING CHILD.

2665
02:09:04,649 --> 02:09:06,477
AND WAS THAT CHILD
BORN PREMATURE?

2666
02:09:06,521 --> 02:09:07,783
NO.
NO.

2667
02:09:07,827 --> 02:09:10,830
BORN FULL TERM?
YEAH.
OKAY. GOOD.

2668
02:09:10,873 --> 02:09:12,832
ARE YOU CURRENTLY
OR HAVE YOU BEEN
IN TREATMENT

2669
02:09:12,875 --> 02:09:15,965
FOR EITHER DEPRESSION
OR PSYCHIATRIC PROBLEMS?

2670
02:09:16,009 --> 02:09:20,840
I'VE BEEN ON
MEDICATION IN
THE PAST FOR IT.

2671
02:09:20,883 --> 02:09:22,624
OKAY. ARE YOU ON
MEDICATION NOW?

2672
02:09:22,667 --> 02:09:24,495
NO.
OKAY.

2673
02:09:24,539 --> 02:09:27,803
WHAT YEARS WERE
YOU ON MED...
AND, ACTUALLY,

2674
02:09:27,847 --> 02:09:29,022
WHAT WERE YOU ON
MEDICATION FOR,

2675
02:09:29,065 --> 02:09:30,501
PSYCHIATRIC PROBLEMS
OR DEPRESSION?

2676
02:09:30,545 --> 02:09:31,938
DEPRESSION.
OKAY.

2677
02:09:31,981 --> 02:09:33,766
WHEN WAS THAT?
HOW LONG AGO?

2678
02:09:33,809 --> 02:09:37,030
THIS YEAR.
THIS YEAR. OKAY.

2679
02:09:37,073 --> 02:09:39,467
ALRIGHTY.
NOW GOING
BACK TO THE...

2680
02:09:39,510 --> 02:09:42,644
TO THE SURGERY
THAT YOU HAD FOR
PHYSICAL ABUSE,

2681
02:09:42,687 --> 02:09:45,429
THAT BROKE YOUR
JAW, IN 1992...

2682
02:09:45,473 --> 02:09:47,605
HOW... HOW DID
THAT HAPPEN?

2683
02:09:49,259 --> 02:09:52,306
UM... ONE QUICK PUNCH.

2684
02:09:52,349 --> 02:09:55,526
AND THIS WAS
FROM... WHO
PUNCHED YOU?

2685
02:09:55,570 --> 02:09:58,225
AN EX-BOYFRIEND.
THE FATHER OF MY...

2686
02:09:58,268 --> 02:10:00,444
THE BABY THAT
I DELIVERED.

2687
02:10:00,488 --> 02:10:05,058
OKAY. AND WHEN
THAT HAPPENED,
DID YOU KNOW...

2688
02:10:05,101 --> 02:10:06,537
DID IT KNOCK
YOU OUT? DID
YOU KNOW YOU...

2689
02:10:06,581 --> 02:10:07,800
YOUR JAW
WAS BROKEN?

2690
02:10:07,843 --> 02:10:09,410
NO. I HAD NO IDEA.

2691
02:10:09,453 --> 02:10:10,803
WHAT HAPPENED?

2692
02:10:12,239 --> 02:10:13,675
WE WERE LIVING
IN THE CITIES HERE

2693
02:10:13,718 --> 02:10:15,155
AND I HAD NO
FAMILY AROUND,

2694
02:10:15,198 --> 02:10:16,721
AND I DIDN'T KNOW
IT WAS BROKE

2695
02:10:16,765 --> 02:10:18,158
AND HE WOULDN'T LET ME
GO TO THE DOCTOR.

2696
02:10:18,201 --> 02:10:21,030
IT WAS JUST KIND OF SWOLLEN
AND I JUST LET IT GO.

2697
02:10:21,074 --> 02:10:26,731
AND THEN... THEN
IN '88 HE WAS KILLED

2698
02:10:26,775 --> 02:10:30,126
IN A MOTORCYCLE
ACCIDENT AND I MOVED
BACK TO MY FAMILY.

2699
02:10:30,170 --> 02:10:34,522
AND MY MOM WANTED ME
TO SEE A PHYSICIAN

2700
02:10:34,565 --> 02:10:38,091
'CAUSE IT WAS SO CROOKED.

2701
02:10:38,134 --> 02:10:39,483
MM-HMM.

2702
02:10:39,527 --> 02:10:44,488
SO I DID THAT.
AND HE RE-BROKE IT AND...

2703
02:10:44,532 --> 02:10:46,360
THE SURGEON?
YEAH.

2704
02:10:46,403 --> 02:10:47,883
RE-BROKE IT?

2705
02:10:47,927 --> 02:10:49,406
AND PUT EVERYTHING
BACK TOGETHER.

2706
02:10:49,450 --> 02:10:52,018
OKAY.

2707
02:10:52,061 --> 02:10:54,107
AND HOW WAS IT
FOR YOU THAT...

2708
02:10:54,150 --> 02:10:57,893
THAT THE TRAUMA OF
THE ABUSE HAPPENED
AND THEN...

2709
02:10:57,937 --> 02:11:00,635
WERE YOU IN TOUCH
WITH THIS MAN
WHEN HE WAS...

2710
02:11:00,678 --> 02:11:02,028
YOU KNOW, BEFORE
HE WAS KILLED?

2711
02:11:02,071 --> 02:11:06,902
I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO
GO BACK TO HIM THE...

2712
02:11:06,946 --> 02:11:10,688
THE DAY BEFORE HE WAS...
OR THE DAY...

2713
02:11:10,732 --> 02:11:12,386
THE MORNING
HE WAS KILLED,

2714
02:11:12,429 --> 02:11:15,041
I WAS SUPPOSED TO TAKE
A BUS THAT EVENING

2715
02:11:15,084 --> 02:11:17,304
TO BE BACK BY
MONDAY MORNING AND...

2716
02:11:17,347 --> 02:11:21,134
THEN HE HAD BEEN KILLED
THAT MORNING.

2717
02:11:21,177 --> 02:11:23,658
WOW.
SO...

2718
02:11:23,701 --> 02:11:27,053
THAT'S PRETTY
TRAUMATIC.

2719
02:11:27,096 --> 02:11:29,229
YEAH. IT WASN'T
A GOOD THING.

2720
02:11:29,272 --> 02:11:30,491
HOW ARE YOU
WITH... THAT'S...

2721
02:11:30,534 --> 02:11:31,579
THAT'S SO MUCH
TO GO THROUGH.

2722
02:11:31,622 --> 02:11:33,973
HOW ARE YOU
WITH IT NOW?

2723
02:11:34,016 --> 02:11:36,497
WHAT IS THIS, THREE,
FOUR YEARS LATER?

2724
02:11:36,540 --> 02:11:40,196
I'M DEALING WITH IT.

2725
02:11:40,240 --> 02:11:43,983
I STILL GO TO
COUNSELING ONCE IN
AWHILE WHEN I FEEL...

2726
02:11:44,026 --> 02:11:45,636
GOOD.
FEEL THE NEED.

2727
02:11:45,680 --> 02:11:48,074
GOOD. OKAY,
WELL, IF...

2728
02:11:48,117 --> 02:11:50,032
IF WE CAN HELP YOU
IN ANY WAY WITH
THAT, LET US KNOW.

2729
02:11:50,076 --> 02:11:51,773
OKAY.
OKAY?

2730
02:11:51,816 --> 02:11:53,253
'CAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS
HERE TO TALK TO YOU
ABOUT IT. ALRIGHTY?

2731
02:11:53,296 --> 02:11:56,343
AND YOU MAY OR MAY
NOT WANT TO ANSWER
THIS QUESTION.

2732
02:11:56,386 --> 02:12:01,652
WAS... WAS THE
ABUSE AND THE...

2733
02:12:01,696 --> 02:12:03,959
AND THE DEATH
OF THIS MAN,

2734
02:12:04,003 --> 02:12:06,657
DID THAT HAVE
ANYTHING TO DO
WITH THE DECISION

2735
02:12:06,701 --> 02:12:08,790
TO HAVE THE
BABY ADOPTED?

2736
02:12:08,833 --> 02:12:10,357
YES.
OKAY.

2737
02:12:10,400 --> 02:12:12,707
VERY MUCH SO.

2738
02:12:12,750 --> 02:12:15,666
HE WAS NOT A...
A FIT FATHER

2739
02:12:15,710 --> 02:12:19,105
FOR NO CHILD,
BY ANY MEANS.

2740
02:12:19,148 --> 02:12:23,196
OKAY. I HEAR WHAT
YOU'RE SAYING.

2741
02:12:23,239 --> 02:12:25,589
IS THERE ANYTHING
ELSE THAT...

2742
02:12:25,633 --> 02:12:26,895
COULD I GET A TISSUE?

2743
02:12:26,939 --> 02:12:29,158
SURE.

2744
02:12:29,202 --> 02:12:30,464
IS THERE ANYTHING
ELSE THAT...

2745
02:12:30,507 --> 02:12:31,987
THAT YOU FEEL
LIKE IS REALLY,
REALLY IMPORTANT

2746
02:12:32,031 --> 02:12:34,555
THAT YOU
WOULD LIKE...

2747
02:12:34,598 --> 02:12:35,730
ANY WORDS THAT YOU
MIGHT WANT TO...

2748
02:12:44,565 --> 02:12:46,959
'CAUSE THAT'S AN
AWFUL LOT TO HAVE
GONE THROUGH.

2749
02:12:47,002 --> 02:12:49,265
DON'T STICK AROUND
AFTER THEY HIT YOU ONCE.

2750
02:12:49,309 --> 02:12:51,485
YEAH. YEAH.

2751
02:12:51,528 --> 02:12:53,748
I WOULD SAY "HEAR,
HEAR" TO THAT TOO.

2752
02:12:56,316 --> 02:12:57,578
OKAY.

2753
02:12:57,621 --> 02:12:59,884
SOMETIMES STUFF
LIKE THAT CAN
BE DIFFICULT

2754
02:12:59,928 --> 02:13:02,235
WHEN YOU'RE HERE
FOR THIS PROCEDURE.

2755
02:13:02,278 --> 02:13:04,150
SO LET US
KNOW AND...

2756
02:13:04,193 --> 02:13:07,109
AND WE WILL
CERTAINLY, YOU
KNOW, BE SUPPORTIVE

2757
02:13:07,153 --> 02:13:08,589
AND HELP YOU IN
ANY WAY THAT WE CAN.

2758
02:13:08,632 --> 02:13:10,112
OKAY.
OKAY?

2759
02:13:10,156 --> 02:13:12,506
THANK YOU.

2760
02:13:12,549 --> 02:13:15,074
WE HAD THESE WONDERFUL
TESTIMONIALS HERE TODAY

2761
02:13:15,117 --> 02:13:19,208
THAT WE HELD HEARINGS
ON THE SECOND VICTIM

2762
02:13:19,252 --> 02:13:23,604
IN AN ABORTION,
WHICH IS THE WOMAN.

2763
02:13:23,647 --> 02:13:26,911
OFTEN AND AGAIN
AND AGAIN AND AGAIN,
ALMOST ALWAYS,

2764
02:13:26,955 --> 02:13:32,961
ABANDONED, DESERTED,
DENIGRATED, CALLED NAMES,

2765
02:13:33,005 --> 02:13:35,833
PRESSURED, DRIVEN
INTO THESE CLINICS,

2766
02:13:35,877 --> 02:13:39,402
AND AS A CONSEQUENCE
THERE'S NOT ONLY
PHYSICAL DAMAGE,

2767
02:13:39,446 --> 02:13:43,450
BUT THERE'S ENORMOUS
EMOTIONAL AND
PSYCHOLOGICAL SCARRING.

2768
02:13:43,493 --> 02:13:46,322
THEY COME OUT WITH
TERRIBLE DEPRESSIONS,

2769
02:13:46,366 --> 02:13:48,107
SUICIDAL TENDENCIES.

2770
02:13:48,150 --> 02:13:49,934
LET'S HOLD HEARINGS.

2771
02:13:49,978 --> 02:13:52,241
IF WE SHOW WHAT
THE OIL INDUSTRY DOES

2772
02:13:52,285 --> 02:13:54,156
UP THERE IN
PRINCE WILLIAM SOUND,

2773
02:13:54,200 --> 02:13:56,071
LET'S SHOW WHAT
THE ABORTION INDUSTRY

2774
02:13:56,115 --> 02:13:57,333
IS DOING TO
THE WOMEN OF AMERICA.

2775
02:13:57,377 --> 02:14:00,423
[ Applause ]

2776
02:14:00,467 --> 02:14:02,208
MOST PEOPLE
IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

2777
02:14:02,251 --> 02:14:03,948
DON'T FEEL THAT REPUBLICANS
WANT IT TO END.

2778
02:14:03,992 --> 02:14:05,428
THEY FEEL IT'S THEIR...

2779
02:14:05,472 --> 02:14:07,822
LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY
IS FOR DEMOCRATS,

2780
02:14:07,865 --> 02:14:10,346
ABORTION IS FOR REPUBLICANS.

2781
02:14:10,390 --> 02:14:12,044
IT'S THE TYPE OF LEGISLATION

2782
02:14:12,087 --> 02:14:13,697
THAT HELPS THEM ELECT
CANDIDATES.

2783
02:14:13,741 --> 02:14:15,221
WHY WOULD THEY WANT IT
TO GO AWAY?

2784
02:14:15,264 --> 02:14:17,397
YOU KNOW, AND THAT
CREATES A SITUATION.

2785
02:14:17,440 --> 02:14:19,747
DEMOCRATS FIGHT VIGOROUSLY
FOR SOCIAL SECURITY

2786
02:14:19,790 --> 02:14:22,054
'CAUSE IT'S THEIR HAMMER
IN THE ELECTIONS.

2787
02:14:22,097 --> 02:14:24,882
REPUBLICANS...
IF YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN,

2788
02:14:24,926 --> 02:14:27,015
IT'S JUST ACCEPTED
THAT YOU RUN FOR OFFICE

2789
02:14:27,059 --> 02:14:29,191
BASED ON THE FACT
THAT YOU'RE PRO-LIFE.

2790
02:14:29,235 --> 02:14:30,975
AND IF IT GOES AWAY,

2791
02:14:31,019 --> 02:14:33,108
WHAT HAVE THEY GOT
FOR THEIR OLD RELIABLE?

2792
02:14:33,152 --> 02:14:36,416
SO THIS IS A
PICTURE OF WHAT YOUR
CERVIX LOOKS LIKE.

2793
02:14:36,459 --> 02:14:37,547
AND YOU'VE GIVEN BIRTH
BEFORE, RIGHT?

2794
02:14:37,591 --> 02:14:38,896
MM-HMM.
SO THAT MEANS

2795
02:14:38,940 --> 02:14:40,246
JUST THAT YOUR CERVIX
HAS A LITTLE SLIT

2796
02:14:40,289 --> 02:14:42,074
INSTEAD A ROUND
HOLE THERE.

2797
02:14:42,117 --> 02:14:44,815
BUT THIS IS JUST THE
BOTTOM RING OF MUSCLE
OF YOUR UTERUS, OKAY?

2798
02:14:44,859 --> 02:14:46,382
AND WHAT
WE NEED TO DO THEN,

2799
02:14:46,426 --> 02:14:48,167
THERE'S THREE STEPS
TO THE ABORTION PROCEDURE

2800
02:14:48,210 --> 02:14:50,473
AND THE WHOLE THING WILL
TAKE ABOUT FIVE MINUTES, OKAY?

2801
02:14:50,517 --> 02:14:52,606
THE FIRST STEP IS
THAT YOU GET A
LITTLE NOVOCAIN

2802
02:14:52,649 --> 02:14:54,129
ON YOUR CERVIX TO NUMB IT.

2803
02:14:54,173 --> 02:14:55,348
JUST LIKE WHEN YOU
GET NOVOCAIN

2804
02:14:55,391 --> 02:14:56,436
IN YOUR GUMS
AT THE DENTIST.

2805
02:14:56,479 --> 02:14:57,567
YOU'VE DONE THAT BEFORE?

2806
02:14:57,611 --> 02:14:58,699
OH YEAH.
YEAH.

2807
02:14:58,742 --> 02:15:00,004
NOBODY LIKES THAT EITHER.

2808
02:15:00,048 --> 02:15:01,484
IT USUALLY TAKES ABOUT
A MINUTE AND A HALF

2809
02:15:01,528 --> 02:15:03,530
TO GO NUMB COMPLETELY,
AND WHAT YOU MIGHT FEEL

2810
02:15:03,573 --> 02:15:06,228
IS A PINCH OR A PRICK
AND SOME STINGING
FROM THE NOVOCAIN.

2811
02:15:06,272 --> 02:15:08,056
BUT PEOPLE USUALLY SAY
IT GOES AWAY PRETTY QUICK.

2812
02:15:08,100 --> 02:15:09,188
OKAY.
OKAY?

2813
02:15:09,231 --> 02:15:10,276
AND SO WE TAKE
THIS THING...

2814
02:15:10,319 --> 02:15:11,973
THIS IS CALLED
A CANNULA.

2815
02:15:12,016 --> 02:15:13,801
AND THIS IS ABOUT
AN EIGHT-WEEK CANNULA.

2816
02:15:13,844 --> 02:15:15,150
SO THE ONE
WE MAY BE USING FOR YOU

2817
02:15:15,194 --> 02:15:16,369
MIGHT BE A LITTLE
BIT SMALLER.

2818
02:15:16,412 --> 02:15:19,067
AND THIS IS ATTACHED
TO A LONG FLEXIBLE TUBE

2819
02:15:19,111 --> 02:15:21,113
WHICH IS ATTACHED
TO THE SUCTION
MACHINE.

2820
02:15:21,156 --> 02:15:23,158
AND THIS JUST GOES
INSIDE THAT CERVIX,

2821
02:15:23,202 --> 02:15:26,118
INSIDE YOUR UTERUS
AND THEN IT JUST...

2822
02:15:26,161 --> 02:15:27,728
THE MACHINE TURNS ON...

2823
02:15:27,771 --> 02:15:29,295
IT MAKES A HUMMING NOISE,
SO YOU'LL HEAR IT.

2824
02:15:29,338 --> 02:15:31,862
AND THIS JUST GETS
MOVED ALONG THE WALL
OF YOUR UTERUS

2825
02:15:31,906 --> 02:15:34,561
AND TAKES ALL THAT
MENSTRUAL TISSUE
THAT IS BUILT UP

2826
02:15:34,604 --> 02:15:36,737
'CAUSE YOU HAVEN'T HAD
YOUR PERIOD IN LIKE,
TWO MONTHS, RIGHT?

2827
02:15:36,780 --> 02:15:38,739
AND, ALSO, THE PREGNANCY
COMES WITH THAT.

2828
02:15:38,782 --> 02:15:40,958
NOW, THE SIZE YOUR PREGNANCY
IS, IT'S REAL SMALL,

2829
02:15:41,002 --> 02:15:43,570
SO IT'LL JUST KIND
OF COME ALONG WITH
EVERYTHING ELSE, OKAY?

2830
02:15:43,613 --> 02:15:45,485
STACEY, A COUPLE
OF QUESTIONS

2831
02:15:45,528 --> 02:15:47,530
JUST ABOUT YOUR
DECISION TODAY,
IF THAT'S OKAY?

2832
02:15:47,574 --> 02:15:48,792
ARE YOU FEELING
DEFINITE OF YOUR

2833
02:15:48,836 --> 02:15:49,837
DECISION TO HAVE
AN ABORTION?

2834
02:15:49,880 --> 02:15:51,099
OH, DEFINITELY.
OKAY.

2835
02:15:51,143 --> 02:15:52,448
AND CAN YOU TELL ME
JUST A LITTLE BIT

2836
02:15:52,492 --> 02:15:53,928
ABOUT KIND OF
WHAT INTO YOUR
DECISION-MAKING,

2837
02:15:53,971 --> 02:15:57,627
HOW YOU MADE
YOUR DECISION?

2838
02:15:57,671 --> 02:16:00,543
UM... JUST NOT A GOOD
TIME IN MY LIFE...

2839
02:16:00,587 --> 02:16:05,069
EMOTIONALLY,
FINANCIALLY, YOU KNOW.

2840
02:16:05,113 --> 02:16:07,071
I JUST MOVED INTO
TO AN APARTMENT

2841
02:16:07,115 --> 02:16:10,249
AND I'VE NEVER LIVED
ON MY OWN IN 28 YEARS,
YOU KNOW, SO...

2842
02:16:10,292 --> 02:16:11,641
WOW.
IT'S...

2843
02:16:11,685 --> 02:16:13,991
IT'S QUITE A CHANGE
FOR ME. SO...

2844
02:16:14,035 --> 02:16:15,906
IT'S EXCITING.
YEAH, IT'S
EXCITING.

2845
02:16:15,950 --> 02:16:19,519
AND THEN SCARY AND,
YOU KNOW, IF I DON'T...

2846
02:16:19,562 --> 02:16:21,085
I DON'T KNOW IF
I CAN HANDLE IT YET,

2847
02:16:21,129 --> 02:16:23,958
I SURELY DON'T WANT
TO BRING A BABY
INTO THIS WORLD

2848
02:16:24,001 --> 02:16:25,481
NOT KNOWING, YOU KNOW.

2849
02:16:25,525 --> 02:16:28,615
YOU'RE ALWAYS SCARED OF
THE UNCERTAIN, I GUESS.

2850
02:16:28,658 --> 02:16:31,661
OKAY. AND DO YOU
HAVE SOMEONE HERE
WITH YOU TODAY?

2851
02:16:31,705 --> 02:16:33,141
YEAH.
OKAY.

2852
02:16:33,185 --> 02:16:34,316
AND THAT'S A
SUPPORT PERSON FOR YOU,

2853
02:16:34,360 --> 02:16:35,404
SOMEONE WHO SUPPORTS
YOUR DECISION?

2854
02:16:35,448 --> 02:16:36,666
MM-HMM.
OKAY.

2855
02:16:36,710 --> 02:16:37,711
SOMETIMES IT'S GOOD
TO HAVE SOMEBODY

2856
02:16:37,754 --> 02:16:38,886
TO GIVE YOU A
LITTLE TLC AFTER.

2857
02:16:38,929 --> 02:16:40,409
IT CAN BE AN EMOTIONALLY
STRESSFUL DAY.

2858
02:16:40,453 --> 02:16:42,063
YEAH.
AND PHYSICALLY TOO.

2859
02:16:42,106 --> 02:16:43,412
SO JUST MAKE SURE HE
TREATS YOU WELL AND...

2860
02:16:43,456 --> 02:16:46,807
OH, YEAH.
YEAH. I KNOW HE WILL.

2861
02:16:46,850 --> 02:16:48,722
HAVE YOU EVER HAD
ANY CONFLICTS WITH
ABORTION AT ALL?

2862
02:16:48,765 --> 02:16:50,027
HAVE YOU EVER BEEN
ANTI-ABORTION AT ALL?

2863
02:16:50,071 --> 02:16:51,246
NO.
OKAY.

2864
02:16:51,290 --> 02:16:53,030
AND I JUST ASKED THAT
TO SEE IF THERE...

2865
02:16:53,074 --> 02:16:54,902
YOU NEED ANY
SPECIAL ATTENTION,
AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW,

2866
02:16:54,945 --> 02:16:57,252
HAVING EMOTIONAL
NEEDS.
OH.

2867
02:16:57,296 --> 02:16:58,949
DO YOU EXPECT TO
REGRET YOUR DECISION
AT ALL OR...

2868
02:16:58,993 --> 02:17:00,037
NO.
OKAY.

2869
02:17:00,081 --> 02:17:03,954
JUST... UNLESS I...

2870
02:17:03,998 --> 02:17:06,522
I WOULD GUESS EVERYBODY
KIND OF GOES,

2871
02:17:06,566 --> 02:17:08,263
YOU KNOW,
BACK AND FORTH.

2872
02:17:08,307 --> 02:17:09,743
BUT, NO. A REGRET, NO.

2873
02:17:09,786 --> 02:17:11,266
OKAY. ONE OF
THE THINGS

2874
02:17:11,310 --> 02:17:13,050
THAT I SOMETIMES
SAY TO PEOPLE

2875
02:17:13,094 --> 02:17:15,705
IS THAT I FEEL
LIKE A MISCARRIAGE
IS WHAT HAPPENS

2876
02:17:15,749 --> 02:17:17,403
WHEN YOUR BODY'S
NOT READY TO BE PREGNANT

2877
02:17:17,446 --> 02:17:18,795
AND AN ABORTION IS
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOUR...

2878
02:17:18,839 --> 02:17:20,057
THE REST OF YOU
ISN'T READY.

2879
02:17:20,101 --> 02:17:21,711
EXACTLY.

2880
02:17:21,755 --> 02:17:23,844
AND SOMETIMES THAT
HELPS PEOPLE WITH
THE DECISION-MAKING.

2881
02:17:23,887 --> 02:17:25,062
YEAH.

2882
02:17:25,106 --> 02:17:26,586
AND THE OTHER THING
IS THAT NOBODY

2883
02:17:26,629 --> 02:17:28,457
CAN DECIDE TODAY
WHAT'S RIGHT FOR YOU.

2884
02:17:28,501 --> 02:17:30,154
YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE
WHO KNOWS WHAT'S
RIGHT FOR STACEY,

2885
02:17:30,198 --> 02:17:31,808
'CAUSE YOU'RE
THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS

2886
02:17:31,852 --> 02:17:34,028
WHAT STACEY'S GOING
THROUGH AND WHAT
STACEY'S LIFE IS LIKE.

2887
02:17:34,071 --> 02:17:35,334
SO I HOPE THAT
YOU REMEMBER THAT.

2888
02:17:35,377 --> 02:17:37,031
OH, YEAH.

2889
02:17:37,074 --> 02:17:38,162
YOU FEEL LIKE
YOU'RE MAKING
THE DECISION

2890
02:17:38,206 --> 02:17:39,294
THAT'S IN YOUR BEST
INTEREST TODAY?

2891
02:17:39,338 --> 02:17:40,252
OH, DEFINITELY.
OKAY.

2892
02:17:45,431 --> 02:17:47,171
Reporter:
IN AMHERST, NEW YORK,

2893
02:17:47,215 --> 02:17:51,219
DR. BARNETT SLEPIAN,
WELL-KNOWN TO ANTI-
ABORTION PROTESTORS,

2894
02:17:51,263 --> 02:17:53,177
WAS SHOT DEAD BY A SNIPER
WHILE AT HOME

2895
02:17:53,221 --> 02:17:54,962
WITH HIS WIFE AND
FOUR CHILDREN LAST NIGHT.

2896
02:17:55,005 --> 02:17:57,443
THE KILLING COMES
JUST DAYS AFTER POLICE

2897
02:17:57,486 --> 02:17:59,401
HAD WARNED CLINIC WORKERS
IN UPSTATE NEW YORK

2898
02:17:59,445 --> 02:18:00,837
ABOUT A PATTERN OF...

2899
02:18:00,881 --> 02:18:02,317
Reporter:
IT WAS AN EXECUTION-
STYLE KILLING.

2900
02:18:02,361 --> 02:18:04,885
ONE BULLET FIRED FROM
A HIGH-POWERED RIFLE

2901
02:18:04,928 --> 02:18:06,365
SMASHED THROUGH
THE KITCHEN WINDOW

2902
02:18:06,408 --> 02:18:08,192
OF DR. BARNETT SLEPIAN'S
HOME...

2903
02:18:08,236 --> 02:18:09,846
Reporter:
THE AUTHORITIES

2904
02:18:09,890 --> 02:18:11,892
ARE LOOKING FOR
A WHITE CAR WITH
CANADIAN LICENSE PLATES

2905
02:18:11,935 --> 02:18:14,329
THAT MAY HAVE BEEN
INVOLVED IN THE KILLING.

2906
02:18:14,373 --> 02:18:18,377
DR. SLEPIAN WAS A PROVIDER
OF SERVICES FOR WOMEN.

2907
02:18:18,420 --> 02:18:20,379
G.Y.N.,
OBSTETRICIAN SERVICES.

2908
02:18:20,422 --> 02:18:23,164
ONE OF THE SERVICES
HE PROVIDED WAS
ABORTION, AMONG MANY.

2909
02:18:23,207 --> 02:18:26,254
AND, BECAUSE OF THAT,
HE WAS ASSASSINATED,

2910
02:18:26,298 --> 02:18:29,431
HE WAS EXECUTED
IN HIS HOME BY A...

2911
02:18:29,475 --> 02:18:30,824
IF IT WAS ONE INDIVIDUAL,

2912
02:18:30,867 --> 02:18:32,478
IT WAS CERTAINLY A MEMBER
OF AN ORGANIZATION

2913
02:18:32,521 --> 02:18:35,742
THAT CALLS THEMSELVES
PRO-LIFE, PRO-FAMILY
AND PRO-CHILD.

2914
02:18:35,785 --> 02:18:38,571
YET THEY KILL THE MAN
IN FRONT OF HIS CHILDREN

2915
02:18:38,614 --> 02:18:40,964
AND THEY RIPPED APART
A FAMILY BY VIOLENCE.

2916
02:18:41,008 --> 02:18:43,576
I FIND THAT THE
ULTIMATE HYPOCRISY.

2917
02:18:43,619 --> 02:18:46,361
Woman:
IT IS IMPORTANT

2918
02:18:46,405 --> 02:18:50,539
THAT THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE
IS NEVER TURNED BACK.

2919
02:18:50,583 --> 02:18:54,761
BECAUSE THE PAINFUL MEMORIES
THAT WOMEN CARRY,

2920
02:18:54,804 --> 02:18:59,722
THE SCARS THAT THEY HAVE
TO HEAL THEMSELVES FROM

2921
02:18:59,766 --> 02:19:03,857
ARE SCARS THAT MEN
WILL NEVER HAVE TO BEAR.

2922
02:19:03,900 --> 02:19:06,642
THOSE ASSASSINS
WHO STAND IN THE SHADOWS

2923
02:19:06,686 --> 02:19:10,298
AND CLAIM THAT
THEY BELIEVE IN FREEDOM

2924
02:19:10,342 --> 02:19:13,997
AND HUMAN RIGHTS AND LIFE,

2925
02:19:14,041 --> 02:19:18,828
THEY HAVE NO IDEA OF
THE TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS

2926
02:19:18,872 --> 02:19:20,917
THAT WOMEN GO THROUGH
WHEN THEY ARE PREGNANT.

2927
02:19:20,961 --> 02:19:22,441
BECAUSE IF THEY DID,

2928
02:19:22,484 --> 02:19:25,531
THEY WOULD WANT US TO KEEP
THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE.

2929
02:19:25,574 --> 02:19:28,490
IF THEY DID, THEY WOULD DO
SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

2930
02:19:28,534 --> 02:19:30,057
Crowd:
[ Applause ]

2931
02:19:30,100 --> 02:19:33,016
THEY WOULD BEAT DOWN
THE DOORS OF THE ORPHANAGES

2932
02:19:33,060 --> 02:19:34,975
AND THEY WOULD GO
IN THERE AND LITERALLY

2933
02:19:35,018 --> 02:19:37,456
TAKE EVERY CHILD HOME
WITH THEM.

2934
02:19:37,499 --> 02:19:40,546
IF THEY REALLY
AND TRUTHFULLY CARED,

2935
02:19:40,589 --> 02:19:44,506
INSTEAD OF STANDING
OUTSIDE ABORTION CLINICS

2936
02:19:44,550 --> 02:19:46,465
AND INTIMIDATING WOMEN,

2937
02:19:46,508 --> 02:19:49,990
THEY WOULD BE TAKING
THOSE WOMEN IN THEIR ARMS

2938
02:19:50,033 --> 02:19:52,427
AND SAYING,
"COME HOME WITH ME

2939
02:19:52,471 --> 02:19:55,952
AND LET ME GIVE YOU SHELTER
AND TIME TO THINK."

2940
02:19:55,996 --> 02:19:58,694
BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE
CHOICES THAT WOMEN NEED.

2941
02:19:58,738 --> 02:20:00,348
THANK YOU.

2942
02:20:00,392 --> 02:20:02,219
IT'S EASY TO...
TO SIT BACK

2943
02:20:02,263 --> 02:20:05,962
IN YOUR
COMFORTABLE CHAIR
AT HOME AND SAY,

2944
02:20:06,006 --> 02:20:07,877
"WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS
PERSON SHOULDN'T HAVE
BEEN DOING THAT,

2945
02:20:07,921 --> 02:20:09,226
SO, YEAH, SHE GOT
WHAT SHE DESERVED."

2946
02:20:09,270 --> 02:20:11,446
AND, "HE'S OKAY
FOR DOING THAT

2947
02:20:11,490 --> 02:20:16,016
BECAUSE HE WAS
JUST DOING IT...
KILLING FOR GOD."

2948
02:20:16,059 --> 02:20:20,237
WELL, I DON'T
BELIEVE GOD
PUT IT ANYWHERE

2949
02:20:20,281 --> 02:20:21,761
TO GO OUT AND
KILL FOR HIM.

2950
02:20:28,289 --> 02:20:30,944
THAT'S WHAT
MAKES ME ANGRY...
ANGRIEST THE MOST,

2951
02:20:30,987 --> 02:20:35,470
IS THE LETTERS
WE'VE GOTTEN FROM
PEOPLE TELLING ME

2952
02:20:35,514 --> 02:20:37,951
TO BURN IN THE
LAKE OF FIRE.

2953
02:20:37,994 --> 02:20:39,343
AND IF THEY'D KNOWN
WHAT I'D ALREADY
BEEN THROUGH

2954
02:20:39,387 --> 02:20:40,997
FOR THE PAST
FEW WEEKS,

2955
02:20:41,041 --> 02:20:42,651
THEY'D ALREADY KNOW
I'D ALREADY BEEN IN
THAT LAKE OF FIRE.

2956
02:20:42,695 --> 02:20:44,523
I'M NOT ABOUT
TO GO BACK.

2957
02:20:50,354 --> 02:20:51,312
I'M NOT.

2958
02:20:53,967 --> 02:20:55,664
MY NUMBER WAS
NOT UP THAT DAY.

2959
02:20:55,708 --> 02:20:57,797
I'M NOT READY TO...
TO BURN AGAIN.

2960
02:20:57,840 --> 02:20:59,842
AND I'M NOT
READY FOR ANYBODY
ELSE TO...

2961
02:20:59,886 --> 02:21:01,583
TO BURN ME AGAIN.

2962
02:21:05,892 --> 02:21:07,546
I THINK IT'S A FIGHT.

2963
02:21:07,589 --> 02:21:11,027
AND IT'S NOT JUST
ABOUT ABORTION.

2964
02:21:11,071 --> 02:21:14,596
I THINK IT'S...
THE ISSUE IS OF CHOICE.

2965
02:21:14,640 --> 02:21:19,296
AND... AS I SAID EARLIER,
THE FREEDOM OF THAT CHOICE.

2966
02:21:19,340 --> 02:21:22,169
AND... AND WHATEVER
YOU DECIDE TO DO,

2967
02:21:22,212 --> 02:21:26,565
IT'S YOUR CHOICE,
IT'S LEGAL.

2968
02:21:26,608 --> 02:21:28,871
THAT... PEOPLE
SHOULDN'T...

2969
02:21:28,915 --> 02:21:30,264
SHOULDN'T BE ABLE
TO TAKE THAT FROM YOU.

2970
02:21:30,307 --> 02:21:32,571
SO YOU NEED TO FIGHT
TO KEEP YOUR ABILITY

2971
02:21:32,614 --> 02:21:35,530
TO HAVE THAT CHOICE.

2972
02:21:35,574 --> 02:21:36,488
AND...

2973
02:21:40,317 --> 02:21:42,494
AND INFORMATION...

2974
02:21:42,537 --> 02:21:43,625
INFORMING PEOPLE.

2975
02:21:45,845 --> 02:21:47,934
IT MAY NOT CHANGE
ANYBODY'S MIND ABOUT THE...

2976
02:21:47,977 --> 02:21:50,371
THE ISSUE AT HAND,

2977
02:21:50,414 --> 02:21:53,287
BUT AT LEAST YOU FEEL
LIKE YOU'VE GONE OUT

2978
02:21:53,330 --> 02:21:54,506
AND DONE SOMETHING TO...

2979
02:21:54,549 --> 02:21:56,812
TO TRY AND
PERSUADE SOMEBODY.

2980
02:21:56,856 --> 02:21:59,902
TO ENLIGHTEN THEM,
BROADEN THEIR HORIZONS,

2981
02:21:59,946 --> 02:22:02,862
INSTEAD OF HAVING SUCH
A... A CLOSED MIND.

2982
02:22:04,690 --> 02:22:05,952
BEFORE WE BEGIN,

2983
02:22:05,995 --> 02:22:08,084
I'M GOING TO
LISTEN TO YOUR
HEART AND LUNGS.

2984
02:22:08,128 --> 02:22:09,956
AND THAT'S
JUST ROUTINE.

2985
02:22:09,999 --> 02:22:13,350
YOUR CHART IS
IN ORDER, BUT I
JUST CONFIRM THAT.

2986
02:22:13,394 --> 02:22:15,614
I'M GOING TO
PUT THIS AT
APPROXIMATELY

2987
02:22:15,657 --> 02:22:16,832
YOUR SECOND
RIB THERE.

2988
02:22:16,876 --> 02:22:18,834
AND JUST BREATHE
QUIETLY.

2989
02:22:23,230 --> 02:22:24,492
VERY GOOD.

2990
02:22:24,536 --> 02:22:27,147
AND I'M GOING
TO LISTEN TO
YOUR LUNGS.

2991
02:22:27,190 --> 02:22:28,583
TAKE A DEEP BREATH
PLEASE, STACEY,

2992
02:22:28,627 --> 02:22:31,281
AND THEN EXHALE.

2993
02:22:31,325 --> 02:22:33,893
EXCELLENT.
YEAH, YOU'RE
PRETTY HEALTHY.

2994
02:22:33,936 --> 02:22:35,721
Nurse:
AND THEN BLOW,
BLOW, BLOW,

2995
02:22:35,764 --> 02:22:38,201
HARD, HARD.
OH... OH...

2996
02:22:38,245 --> 02:22:40,639
OKAY, GOOD.
OH, GOD.

2997
02:22:40,682 --> 02:22:42,162
SQUEEZE HERE.

2998
02:22:42,205 --> 02:22:43,903
YOU'RE GOING
TO FEEL THOSE
CRAMPS, REMEMBER,

2999
02:22:43,946 --> 02:22:45,774
THAT'S YOUR UTERUS
SHRINKING BACK DOWN.

3000
02:22:45,818 --> 02:22:47,471
GOOD. OKAY, DO
THE BREATHING.

3001
02:22:47,515 --> 02:22:49,169
BLOW, BLOW,
BLOW. OKAY?

3002
02:22:49,212 --> 02:22:52,128
HOLD IT. HOLD IT.
HOLD IT. HOLD IT.
HOLD IT. HOLD IT.

3003
02:22:52,172 --> 02:22:53,652
AND THEN BLOW, BLOW,
BLOW, BLOW, BLOW.

3004
02:22:53,695 --> 02:22:55,001
Stacey:
[ Moaning ]

3005
02:22:55,044 --> 02:22:57,090
Nurse:
HOLD IT. HOLD IT.
HOLD IT. HOLD IT.

3006
02:22:57,133 --> 02:22:59,266
BLOW, BLOW, BLOW.
BLOW IT OUT.
BLOW IT OUT.

3007
02:22:59,309 --> 02:23:00,397
[ Moaning ]

3008
02:23:00,441 --> 02:23:01,703
GOOD.

3009
02:23:01,747 --> 02:23:02,835
OKAY, WE'RE
ALMOST THERE.

3010
02:23:02,878 --> 02:23:04,750
YOU'RE MOSTLY
DONE. OKAY?

3011
02:23:04,793 --> 02:23:05,794
Doctor:
STACEY,
IT'S DONE.

3012
02:23:05,838 --> 02:23:07,100
NO COMPLICATIONS.

3013
02:23:07,143 --> 02:23:09,493
OKAY.
AN AVERAGE AMOUNT
OF BLEEDING.

3014
02:23:09,537 --> 02:23:10,756
Nurse:
DID I SQUEEZE YOUR
HAND TOO HARD?

3015
02:23:10,799 --> 02:23:11,800
Stacey:
NO, I WAS WONDERING
ABOUT YOU.

3016
02:23:11,844 --> 02:23:12,758
Nurse:
NO, NO, NO,

3017
02:23:12,801 --> 02:23:14,237
THAT'S WHAT MY
HAND IS FOR.

3018
02:23:14,281 --> 02:23:16,326
...IT WILL PROTECT
YOU FROM DISEASE.
OW...

3019
02:23:16,370 --> 02:23:17,806
THIS IS THE SPECULUM
COMING OUT. HOW'S
THAT, BETTER?

3020
02:23:17,850 --> 02:23:19,025
MUCH.
OKAY.

3021
02:23:33,996 --> 02:23:35,041
Kissling:
AS PART OF
RUNNING A CLINIC

3022
02:23:35,084 --> 02:23:36,999
AND BEING THE DIRECTOR
OF A CLINIC,

3023
02:23:37,043 --> 02:23:41,395
I PARTICIPATED
IN... WENT INTO
THE PROCEDURE ROOM,

3024
02:23:41,438 --> 02:23:43,484
INTO THE OPERATING ROOM
WITH MANY WOMEN.

3025
02:23:43,527 --> 02:23:46,139
HELD MANY, MANY HANDS.

3026
02:23:46,182 --> 02:23:51,579
FELT THE TENSION THAT
EACH WOMAN WAS EXPERIENCING

3027
02:23:51,623 --> 02:23:57,019
PASS FROM HER BODY
INTO MY BODY.

3028
02:23:57,063 --> 02:23:59,587
SAW THE ANGUISH
THAT MANY WOMEN FELT.

3029
02:23:59,631 --> 02:24:01,458
I... I NEVER...
YOU KNOW, I MEAN...

3030
02:24:01,502 --> 02:24:03,069
PEOPLE TALK NOW ABOUT...

3031
02:24:03,112 --> 02:24:04,940
PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO
EXPERIENCE OF ABORTION,

3032
02:24:04,984 --> 02:24:06,594
WHO HAVE NO EXPERIENCE
OF HOW WOMEN FEEL,

3033
02:24:06,638 --> 02:24:08,422
OF WHAT THEY ARE
GOING THROUGH...

3034
02:24:08,465 --> 02:24:11,991
TALK ABOUT THIS AS
SOMETHING THAT WOMEN
DO IN A WAY THAT...

3035
02:24:12,034 --> 02:24:17,083
THAT IS DISEMBODIED
FROM THEIR VALUES.

3036
02:24:17,126 --> 02:24:19,999
THAT WOMEN DON'T THINK
ABOUT THEIR DECISION.

3037
02:24:20,042 --> 02:24:22,697
I NEVER MET A WOMAN...

3038
02:24:22,741 --> 02:24:25,134
AND I MET THOUSANDS
OF WOMEN IN THE '70s

3039
02:24:25,178 --> 02:24:26,962
WHO WERE HAVING
ABORTIONS...

3040
02:24:27,006 --> 02:24:30,792
I NEVER MET A WOMAN
WHO DID NOT TAKE
ABORTION SERIOUSLY.

3041
02:24:30,836 --> 02:24:34,840
I CERTAINLY MET
A LOT OF WOMEN WHO
PUT ON BRAVE FACES,

3042
02:24:34,883 --> 02:24:39,801
WHO WERE CASUAL
IN THE WAITING ROOM.

3043
02:24:39,845 --> 02:24:43,718
BUT I CAN TELL YOU
THAT WHEN YOU GOT INTO
THE PROCEDURE ROOM

3044
02:24:43,762 --> 02:24:45,807
WHERE THE ABORTION
WAS GOING TO BE PERFORMED,

3045
02:24:45,851 --> 02:24:48,984
THAT YOU COULD TELL
THAT EACH AND EVERY WOMAN

3046
02:24:49,028 --> 02:24:50,725
WAS TAKING THAT DECISION
SERIOUSLY.

3047
02:24:50,769 --> 02:24:52,466
AND EACH AND EVERY WOMAN

3048
02:24:52,509 --> 02:24:56,165
WAS DOING THE BEST
THAT SHE COULD DO

3049
02:24:56,209 --> 02:25:01,562
WITH A DIFFICULT HAND
THAT SHE HAD BEEN DEALT.

3050
02:25:01,605 --> 02:25:05,653
AND IT WAS... IT
WAS AND IS, FOR ME,

3051
02:25:05,697 --> 02:25:08,656
HUMBLING TO THINK
ABOUT THAT BECAUSE...

3052
02:25:10,702 --> 02:25:12,878
IT DOES...
IT DOES HELP YOU...

3053
02:25:12,921 --> 02:25:17,317
IT DID HELP ME
TO LEARN NOT TO JUDGE

3054
02:25:17,360 --> 02:25:24,454
OTHER PEOPLE'S DECISIONS
BASED UPON EXTERIORS.

3055
02:25:24,498 --> 02:25:29,198
THAT... THAT THE
INNER LIFE AND THE
THINKING OF WOMEN IS...

3056
02:25:29,242 --> 02:25:32,549
IS INDEED VERY,
VERY PROFOUND AND
VERY IMPORTANT.

3057
02:25:32,593 --> 02:25:33,507
UM...

3058
02:25:35,204 --> 02:25:37,729
I'M ALL DONE
AND I'M EXHAUSTED AND...

3059
02:25:39,818 --> 02:25:44,300
I'M... AGITATED AND
I NEED A CIGARETTE VERY BAD.

3060
02:25:44,344 --> 02:25:46,738
[ ♪♪♪ ]

3061
02:25:46,781 --> 02:25:49,131
I CAN'T SMOKE
IN HERE ANYWAY.

3062
02:25:49,175 --> 02:25:50,524
UM...

3063
02:25:53,440 --> 02:25:55,964
JUST TIRED,

3064
02:25:56,008 --> 02:25:58,619
DRAINED EMOTIONALLY
AND PHYSICALLY AND...

3065
02:26:00,142 --> 02:26:02,710
UM, HAD A LITTLE CRAMPING.

3066
02:26:08,411 --> 02:26:10,544
I DON'T KNOW.

3067
02:26:10,587 --> 02:26:11,632
LOTS OF THOUGHTS.

3068
02:26:11,675 --> 02:26:22,425
[ ♪♪♪ ]

3069
02:26:22,469 --> 02:26:25,733
MAYBE A LITTLE
RELIEVED...

3070
02:26:25,777 --> 02:26:34,698
[ ♪♪♪ ]

3071
02:26:34,742 --> 02:26:36,700
AND NOW IT'S
TIME TO JUST...

3072
02:26:41,618 --> 02:26:42,750
[ Sobbing ]

3073
02:27:04,337 --> 02:27:05,904
[ Sniffling ]

3074
02:27:13,781 --> 02:27:15,304
[ Sobbing ]

3075
02:27:15,348 --> 02:27:19,134
[ ♪♪♪ ]

3076
02:27:19,178 --> 02:27:21,702
IT'S JUST BEEN
A REALLY LONG DAY.

3077
02:27:28,100 --> 02:27:31,233
I JUST NEED TO GO HOME
AND GET ON WITH MY LIFE.

3078
02:27:35,237 --> 02:27:36,891
I KNOW I MADE
THE RIGHT DECISION,

3079
02:27:36,935 --> 02:27:38,371
BUT IT'S STILL NOT EASY.

3080
02:27:38,414 --> 02:27:48,424
[ ♪♪♪ ]

3081
02:27:48,468 --> 02:27:57,869
[ ♪♪♪ ]

3082
02:27:57,912 --> 02:27:59,479
[ Inaudible ]

3083
02:27:59,522 --> 02:28:01,220
MUCH BETTER.

3084
02:28:06,834 --> 02:28:10,185
NO, IT'S MORE IN MY HEART
THAN IN MY STOMACH NOW.

3085
02:28:10,229 --> 02:28:24,896
[ ♪♪♪ ]

3086
02:28:56,318 --> 02:29:10,985
[ ♪♪♪ ]

3087
02:30:58,484 --> 02:31:03,097
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