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(BIRDS CHIRPING)
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(TELEPHONE RINGING)
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MAN: Hiya, Frank.
How are the wife and kids?
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You know, for you,
I'm considering treasury bonds
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and utility stocks. Smoke?
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JARED: In the late '70s,
banking wasn't a job
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you went into
to make large sums of money.
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It was a fucking snooze.
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(CHUCKLES) How about those Mets?
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JARED: Filled with losers.
Like selling insurance or
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accounting.
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And if banking was boring,
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then the bond department at the
bank was straight-up comatose.
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We all know about bonds.
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You give them to your
snot-nosed kid when he turns 15.
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Maybe when he's 30
he makes a hundred bucks.
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Boring.
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That is, until Lewis Ranieri
came on the scene
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at Salomon Brothers.
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You might not know who he is,
but he changed your life
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more than Michael Jordan,
the iPod and YouTube put together.
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- (CHUCKLING)
- (MAN LAUGHING)
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All right, gentlemen!
Let's get some money in here!
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Let's make some money!
What do you say?
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(ALL CHEERING)
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JARED: You see,
Lewis didn't know it yet,
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but he had already
changed banking forever
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with one simple idea.
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The mortgage-backed security.
Or private-label MBS.
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LEWIS: You've got your
average person's mortgage.
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Fixed rate, 30 years.
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Boring, safe, small payoff, right? But,
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when you have thousands
of them all bundled together,
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suddenly the yield goes up
but the risk is still small because,
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well, they're mortgages!
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And who the hell
doesn't pay their mortgage?
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What exactly is the credit
rating on this bond?
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This bond, gentlemen, is AAA-rated.
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This is exactly what the Michigan state
pension fund has been looking for.
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I'll buy $20 million.
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Oh, come on, live a little.
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- $25 million.
- (ALL LAUGHING)
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JARED: The money came raining down,
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and for the first time,
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the banker went from the country club
to the strip club.
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Pretty soon, stocks and savings
were almost inconsequential.
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- They were doing $50, $100, $200 billion
- Whoo!
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In mortgage bonds and dozens of other
securities a year.
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(MEN CHEERING)
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And America barely noticed
as its number one industry
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became boring old banking.
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And then one day,
almost 30 years later, in 2008,
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it all came crashing down.
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FEMALE REPORTER: March.
Bear Stearns was in a death spiral
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and the Fed brokered its sale.
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BRIAN WILLIAMS: It's been called the
worst financial crisis in modern times.
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Certainly the largest financial disaster
in decades in this country,
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and perhaps the end of an era
in American business.
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JARED: In the end, Lewis Ranieri's
mortgage-backed security
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mutated into a monstrosity that
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collapsed the whole world economy.
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And none of the experts
or leaders or talking heads
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had a clue it was coming.
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I'm guessing most of you
still don't really know what happened.
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Yeah, you got a soundbite you repeat
so you don't sound dumb, but come on.
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Our financial institutions are strong.
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But there were some who saw it coming.
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While the whole world
was having a big old party,
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a few outsiders and weirdos
saw what no one else could.
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Not me. I'm not a weirdo.
I'm pretty fucking cool.
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But we'll meet again later.
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These outsiders saw the giant lie
at the heart of the economy.
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And they saw it by doing something
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the rest of the suckers
never thought to do.
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They looked.
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(TAPPING)
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MIKE: During the 1930s,
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the housing market collapsed nationwide
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by roughly 80%.
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I mean, half of all mortgage debt
was in default.
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And, I mean, there were very
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specific identifiers,
extremely recognisable.
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I mean, for instance,
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(STAMMERING) one of
the hallmarks of mania
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is the rapid rise
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in complexity and the rates of fraud.
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And did you know that they're going up?
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(CHEERLEADERS CHEERING)
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MAN: Whoo!
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(INAUDIBLE)
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MIKE: I've always been
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more comfortable alone.
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(GIRLS TALKING INDISTINCTLY)
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(GIRLS LAUGHING)
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I believe maybe
it's because of my glass eye.
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I lost the eye in a childhood illness.
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It separates me from people.
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And did you know that they are going
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up?
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The highest fraud rates since the 1930s.
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MIKE'S MOM:
Hey, hey, it's okay. It's okay.
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No, I didn't know that.
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(MIKE STUTTERING)
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(MIKE CHUCKLING)
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In 1933, the fourth year
of the Great Depression.
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Let's wash it off and put it back in.
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MIKE'S DAD: You were
playing so great, son.
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I even heard the coach say it.
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Can we just go home?
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MIKE: Most social interactions
are awkward for me and for the person.
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Even when I try to compliment someone,
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it comes out wrong.
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You have a very nice haircut.
Did you do it yourself?
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(CHUCKLES) What?
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(STAMMERING) No. No, I...
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(SPLASHING)
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(TELEPHONE RINGING IN DISTANCE)
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I'm sorry. I'm just...
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(SIGHS)
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I'm going on and on.
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My wife told me I need to share more.
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Mmm.
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- That seems healthy.
- Yeah.
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Mmm-hmm.
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(CHUCKLES)
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Uh...
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So do I get the job?
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I really think I could help your fund.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, sure. Go on.
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(BOTH CHUCKLING)
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- You're...
- David. Great.
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I guess I'll go find a desk.
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Is there anything you want me
to work on for start...
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Uh...
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Yeah.
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DAVID: You could let me know later.
I could come back.
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(STUTTERING)
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Did you think it was strange when, um,
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the tech bubble burst in 2001
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and the housing market in San Jose,
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the tech capital of the world,
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went up?
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Wasn't that strange?
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DAVID: No.
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No, it's housing.
Housing is always stable.
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Low risk. It's solid.
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That's the idea, yeah.
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I want you to get me
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the top 20 selling mortgage bonds.
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So you want to know what
the top 20 selling mortgage bonds are?
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No, no, no, I want to know
what mortgages are in each one.
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(CHUCKLING) Okay, aren't those
mortgages made up of...
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(ROCK MUSIC PLAYING)
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Wait, aren't those bonds made up
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of thousands and thousands
of mortgages?
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Yeah.
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DAVID: Right away, Dr. Burry.
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I am a nice guy all day long.
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Ask anyone, I'm a pleasure to work with.
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But the second my son screws up, I am...
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...yelling at him
just like my dad did to me.
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I hear the words that are
coming out of my mouth and...
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(DOOR OPENS)
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- MARK: Sorry I'm late! No cabs.
- (DOOR CLOSES)
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Oh...
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So, get this.
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I met with this retail banker yesterday.
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I'm supposed to be getting him
to invest in a fund,
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but instead
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I start grilling him about
overdraft penalties
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and how his bank will let
a customer write 10-12 cheques
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before they tell them they're overdrawn.
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And this creep is making billions
off screwing over people this way.
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And I'm getting madder and madder.
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And I ask him,
I look him in the face and I say,
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"How can you sleep at night
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"knowing that you are
ripping off working people?"
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And you know what he did? He left.
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He just walks out of the lunch,
doesn't say a word.
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What the fuck is that?
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Who's fucked up in that scenario? Am I?
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Or is this douchebag,
who leaves me hanging?
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Is he the fucked up one?
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We have talked about this
numerous times.
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You can't come in late
and hijack the entire session.
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MARK: What do you mean?
I didn't hijack the meeting.
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Did I hijack the session?
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Yeah.
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What do you do?
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MAN: I'm in commodities.
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Good luck with that.
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THERAPIST: Mark, I know
you suffered a terrible loss.
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Maybe you want to talk about that.
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- I don't talk about that.
- (CELL PHONE CHIMING)
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Hold on.
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Hold on...
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Shit, I have to take this. Sorry. Sorry.
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No... (SIGHS) I don't care, Porter.
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This guy's whole business
is built on ripping people off.
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How long can that last?
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Bye, everybody!
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MIKE: (SOFTLY) 95...
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That's 30 days late... Sixty days late...
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They pay on time...
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(TYPING ON KEYBOARD)
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These FICO scores...
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(SIGHS)
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(TELEPHONE RINGING)
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Late. And they caught up
on their payments...
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Another 30 days late...
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LTV, 95... LTV, 90...
They caught up on their payments...
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Sixty days late? Jesus!
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LTV, 110? I've never heard of that!
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Thirty days late, rate adjusts...
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In '07 rate adjusts...
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In '06 rate adjusts...
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95... 90... Jesus!
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(WHIRRING)
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(WHISPERING) He hasn't moved all day.
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He does this every few days.
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He hasn't spoken to me
since he hired me.
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MIKE: Maybe the LTV's at... High-risk,
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interest-only... I never heard
of that mortgage history,
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I never heard of that... How?
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Michael, how are you, guy?
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MIKE: Lawrence, I found
something really interesting.
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Great, Michael. Whenever you
find something interesting,
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we all tend to make money.
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What stock are you valuing?
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No, no, no, no. No stocks.
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I want to short the housing market.
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(BRUSHING)
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Really? But the housing market
is rock solid.
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Greenspan just said
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bubbles are regional, defaults are rare.
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Tell them I'll be there in a minute.
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- Say again?
- Look, look...
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(MUFFLED) Greenspan's wrong.
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I don't think you mean to do this,
but sometimes you sound very
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dismissive and superior.
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It's a fact. Greenspan's wrong.
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(MUFFLED) I don't know
how else you want me to say...
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Look, Michael.
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Metro Capital backed you four years ago
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when you were a doctor with a
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dinky webpage
and some inheritance money.
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We've all done very well.
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Why don't you just stick with stocks?
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Look. You know me. I, I, I...
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I look for value wherever it can be found.
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And the fact is
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that these mortgage-backed
securities are filled
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with extremely risky
subprime adjustable-rate loans.
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And when the majority
of the adjustable rates
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kick in, in '07,
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they will begin to fail.
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And if they fail above 15%,
the whole bond is worthless.
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Michael, just take a beat.
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We'll talk about this later, okay?
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Lawrence, please,
don't patronise me. Listen...
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JARED: Mortgage-backed securities.
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It, it, it...
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- Subprime loans. Tranches.
- (QUACKING)
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It's pretty confusing, right?
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Does it make you feel bored?
Or stupid?
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Well, it's supposed to.
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Wall Street loves to use confusing terms
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to make you think only they
can do what they do.
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Or, even better,
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for you to just leave them the fuck alone.
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So here's Margot Robbie
in a bubble bath to explain.
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(POPS)
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Basically, Lewis Ranieri's
mortgage bonds
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were amazingly profitable
for the big banks.
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They made billions and billions
on their 2% fee
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they got for selling each of these bonds.
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But then they started
running out of mortgages
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to put in them.
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After all, there are only so many homes
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and so many people with
good enough jobs to buy them, right?
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So the banks started filling these bonds
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with riskier and riskier mortgages.
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Thank you, Benter.
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That way they can keep
that profit machine churning, right?
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By the way, these risky mortgages
are called subprime.
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So whenever you hear "subprime", think
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"shit".
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Our friend Michael Burry found out
that these mortgage bonds
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that were supposedly 65% AAA
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were actually just mostly full of shit.
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So now he's going to "short" the bonds.
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Which means to "bet against".
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Got it?
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Good.
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Now fuck off.
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It's only a matter of time before
someone else sees this investment.
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- We have to act now!
- (BANGING TABLE)
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How do you know
the bonds are worthless?
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Aren't they filled with fucking thousands
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of pages of mortgages?
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I read them.
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- You read them?
- I read... Yes.
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No one reads them. Only the lawyers
who put them together read them.
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Look, I don't think that they
even know what they've made.
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The housing market
is propped up on these
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bad loans, and I'm... (SIGHS)
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It's a time bomb, and I want to short it.
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Through what instrument, Michael?
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There are no insurance contracts
or options for mortgage bonds.
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The bonds are too stable.
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Lawrence...
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(STUTTERS)
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This is what I'm gonna do.
I am gonna get a bank
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to make me one.
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And then
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I'm gonna buy it.
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(CAR HONKING)
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MARK: I don't want that kind of business.
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Money is not money.
That's bad money.
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Hey! Excuse me!
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Let me ask you this.
What company treats its customers
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that shittily and succeeds?
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- Fine. Okay, Goldman. You're right.
- (HORN HONKING)
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JARED: Mark Baum had built his career
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on never assuming anyone
or any company
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was legit without proving it.
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When he was a kid
he excelled at studying
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the Talmud in Yeshiva. Whatever.
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But one day his rabbi told his mom why.
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(HORN HONKING)
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Paul is a fine boy,
and Mark is an excellent student
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of the Torah and the Talmud.
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Then what's the problem, rabbi?
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It's the reason Mark is studying so hard.
336
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He's looking for inconsistencies
in the word of God!
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- So has he found any?
- (SCOFFS)
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JARED: Later, Baum started
his own fund on Wall Street.
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He had an amazing nose for bullshit.
340
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And he wasn't afraid to let
anyone know when and where
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the bull had gone number two.
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But then a tragedy happened to Mark,
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and it turned his world view dark
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and ready to believe
the whole system was a lie.
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- (PHONE CHIMES)
- Hold on.
346
00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,644
It's Cynthia.
I'll be in the office in 20 minutes.
347
00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:00,761
Hi, honey.
348
00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,171
(SIRENS WAILING)
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00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,926
The therapist called. You did it again.
350
00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,085
There were no cabs.
What was I supposed to do?
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00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:10,844
I worry about you, Mark.
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00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,251
At least I went.
353
00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,488
You're running around
like you have to right
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- every wrong in the world.
- Okay.
355
00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:18,726
You're so angry.
356
00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,211
Fine. You know what?
357
00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,204
I'm a mean guy and I'm pissed off.
358
00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,203
But it is a shit storm out here, sweetie.
359
00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,602
You have no idea
the kind of crap people are pulling.
360
00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,411
And everyone's walking around like
they're in a goddamn Enya video.
361
00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:32,970
(BIRDS CHIRPING)
362
00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,565
They're all getting screwed, you know.
363
00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,211
You know what they care about?
They care about the ballgame.
364
00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,170
Or they care about
what actress just went into rehab.
365
00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,288
I think you should try medication.
366
00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:45,569
No, no. We agreed.
If it interfered with work.
367
00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,483
You hate Wall Street.
Maybe it's time to quit.
368
00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,923
- I love my job.
- You hate your job.
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00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,001
I love my job.
370
00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,081
You're miserable.
371
00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,162
I love my job. I love my job, honey.
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00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,366
Mark...
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I am sad every day
about what happened.
374
00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,082
I know you must feel the same,
but you never show it.
375
00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,846
I know how close you
were to your brother.
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00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:17,321
MARK: Paul.
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00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:19,964
Where'd you go, Paul?
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00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:26,526
Paul!
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00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,925
Every day I think you're
gonna talk about it, but you never do.
380
00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,441
- (TV PLAYING)
- (TYPING ON LAPTOP)
381
00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:38,521
(BEEPING)
382
00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,521
Will you at least think about the idea
of making a change?
383
00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,450
Fine. Fine. Honey, you know what?
I will consider it.
384
00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,962
But, honestly, Cynthia.
I'm okay. I really am.
385
00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,963
Hey, hey, hey! No, no.
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00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,487
My cab. That's my cab.
That's my cab. That is my cab.
387
00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,085
MARK: Schmuck. Fuck you.
MAN: Fuck you.
388
00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,685
MARK: Fuck you.
MAN: Fuck you.
389
00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:58,761
(PHONE BEEPS)
390
00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,405
I'll call you later.
391
00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,241
(HORN HONKING)
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00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,805
I want to buy swaps on mortgage bonds.
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00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,241
A credit default swap that will pay off
394
00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,806
if the underlying bond fails.
395
00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,170
You want to bet against
the housing market?
396
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,163
- Yes.
- Why?
397
00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,401
Those bonds only fail
398
00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,006
if millions of Americans
don't pay their mortgages.
399
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,447
That's never happened in history.
400
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,484
If you'll excuse me, Dr. Burry,
it seems like a foolish investment.
401
00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,370
Well, based on prevailing sentiment
402
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,442
of the market and banks
in popular culture,
403
00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,807
yes, it's a foolish investment.
404
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,406
But, uh... Everyone's wrong.
405
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:42,885
(BOTH LAUGHING)
406
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,485
That's a good one.
407
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,321
(LAUGHS)
408
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,484
This is Wall Street, Dr. Burry.
409
00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,528
If you offer us free money,
we are going to take it.
410
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:55,242
My one concern is that
when the bonds fail,
411
00:19:56,360 --> 00:19:59,921
uh, I want to be certain, um, of payment
412
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,765
um, in case of solvency issues
with your bank.
413
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,121
I'm sorry, are you for real?
414
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:07,884
You wanna bet against
the housing market
415
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,246
and you're worried we won't pay you?
416
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:10,924
Yes, that's correct.
417
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:12,801
(LUCY CLEARS THROAT)
418
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:16,691
(WHISPERING)
419
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,169
LUCY: (WHISPERING)
...unless the market crashes.
420
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,487
DEEB: (WHISPERS) The market
on housing's never gonna crash
421
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,404
because it's so solid right now.
422
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,211
I mean, who doesn't
pay their mortgages?
423
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:37,161
Mmm-hmm.
424
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,447
(CLEARS THROAT) Dr. Burry,
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00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,887
we could work out
a pay-as-we-go structure
426
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,962
that would pay out if the bonds fail.
427
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,530
But it would also apply to your payments
428
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,608
if the value of the mortgage bond
goes up.
429
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,411
You'd have to pay us monthly premiums.
430
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,171
LUCY: Is that acceptable, Dr. Burry?
431
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:57,971
Yes. Yes.
432
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,446
Um, I have prospectuses on six
433
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,364
mortgage-backed securities
I want to short.
434
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,046
(DEEB READING SOFTLY)
435
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,569
LUCY: (WHISPERING)
Majority of the mortgages...
436
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,526
(CHUCKLES)
437
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,011
(LUCY AND DEEB WHISPERING)
438
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,081
(PAGES FLIPPING)
439
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,406
DEEB: (WHISPERING) I don't see us
losing any money on these at all.
440
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:25,720
(PRINTER WHIRRING)
441
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,081
(INHALES)
442
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,565
Dr. Burry, these should be fine.
443
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,563
Yeah. We're prepared
to sell you $5 million
444
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,529
in credit default swaps
on these mortgage bonds.
445
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,131
Can we make it $100 million?
446
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,401
Uh, absolutely,
we can make it $100 million.
447
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,209
LUCY: We'll be in touch,
send some paperwork over.
448
00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,081
DEEB: Um...
449
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,525
(SIGHING) I like these cups.
450
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,284
(STUTTERING)
Can I take one for my son?
451
00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:05,169
LUCY: Have... Yes. Yes.
452
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,730
Thank you.
453
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,165
LUCY: Have two.
454
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,331
(INAUDIBLE)
455
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,330
(HIP HOP MUSIC PLAYING)
456
00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:31,169
Is there any way to do $200 million?
457
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,251
I mean, we can. But are you sure?
458
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,323
Absolutely. Absolutely, we can do that.
459
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,408
We do different projects.
We do gardening.
460
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,808
The bonds I'd like to bet against.
461
00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:01,485
It's not bad seeing yourself
on the big screen.
462
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:02,561
It's very cool.
463
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,286
I ordered the 24-ounce T-bone,
which was choice.
464
00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:08,805
- I went for volume...
- WOMAN: Yeah.
465
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,530
...rather than prime.
466
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,285
I went for subprime, and the gist was...
467
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,721
(HORN HONKING)
468
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,171
MAN: Can I have like, lettuce,
tomato, no onions?
469
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,088
WOMAN: So, no onions.
Lettuce, tomato, Thousand Island okay?
470
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,161
MAN: Yeah.
471
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,485
(INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS)
472
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,924
Hey, Randall! What's with the Dom?
473
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,843
Bonuses aren't for three months.
474
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,925
We just sold $200 million
in credit swaps for mortgage bonds.
475
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,162
Some fund manager from California.
476
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,605
It's fucking crazy, right?
477
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,761
A whole new way to make money, Doug.
478
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,081
Wait, wait. I didn't know
there were swaps on mortgages.
479
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,766
(LAUGHS) There are now.
We made it for him.
480
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,524
He must have gone off
his Zoloft or something.
481
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,931
I don't know. (CHUCKLES)
482
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,764
- Want to join? No?
- Just a second.
483
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:58,841
Oh...
484
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,451
DOUG: Hey, Jared.
485
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,010
Did you hear about the deal
that Randall just did
486
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,286
with some fund manager?
487
00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:05,203
JARED: Randall? Bullshit.
488
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,443
He's a foot soldier.
I'm sure it's a shit deal.
489
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:08,806
No, it's for real.
490
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,405
I told you we'd meet later.
491
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,960
Unfortunately, it's in a place like this
which I would never be.
492
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,691
I never hung out with
these idiots after work, ever.
493
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,569
I had fashion friends.
494
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,282
Apparently, this guy wanted $200 mil
in credit default swaps.
495
00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:24,124
Randall made the sale.
Can you believe it?
496
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,487
Somebody shorted $200 mil
on mortgage bonds?
497
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,928
That was just with Deutsche.
Word is he hit half the town.
498
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:31,926
How much in total?
499
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,729
$1.3 billion.
500
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,646
LAWRENCE: What? That's pretty much
all of Scion's liquidity.
501
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,802
Michael, this is highly distressing.
502
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,325
Lawrence, that is not
503
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,006
all of our liquidity.
504
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,241
And I'm not certain
505
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,561
that you really understand this trade.
506
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:48,687
This is a certainty.
507
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,889
Mike, I consider myself a mentor to you.
508
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,806
But our company is not comfortable
with this investment. Am I being clear?
509
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,121
Lawrence, I have full autonomy
510
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,124
when it comes to investment strategy.
511
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,326
(SIGHS) You can read our agreement.
512
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,768
Do not throw our inception agreement
in my face, Michael.
513
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,241
- We had an underlying understanding
- (COMPUTER BEEPS)
514
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,606
you wouldn't act like
a goddamn crazy man.
515
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,284
This is not crazy.
516
00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:12,850
It's all very logical.
517
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,082
So, now we pay up premiums
on these swaps
518
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,445
against the housing market
until the mortgages fail?
519
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,204
In other words, we lose millions
520
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,005
until something that's
never happened before happens?
521
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:27,887
That's correct.
522
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,889
(TELEPHONES RINGING)
523
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,640
KATHY: Hello, Mark Baum.
524
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,802
Oh, hey, Kathy, you busted me.
525
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:05,881
I had a personal thing this afternoon.
526
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:06,967
I'm not your babysitter.
527
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,646
If FrontPoint makes money
for Morgan Stanley, I'm happy.
528
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,087
Okay. Hey, did I hear you're expecting?
529
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,491
We're expecting to be expecting.
530
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,244
IVF's are cleaning us out
but we're staying positive...
531
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,845
That's exciting!
532
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,161
(CHUCKLES)
533
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,004
...lump on my ball.
And I go in for a scan.
534
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,081
Mmm-hmm.
535
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,881
Turns out that I have a very large thing
called an epididymis.
536
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,531
Which is a thing
that goes around the ball
537
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,329
and is like a sac underneath.
538
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,447
I have an extremely
539
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,363
- pronounced epididymis.
- PORTER: I'm riveted...
540
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,488
I'm riveted by this.
Do you have any pictures?
541
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,121
DANNY: It's almost as large
as another testicle unto itself.
542
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,282
So get this. Cynthia...
543
00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:47,443
Guys. Cynthia wants me to quit
and open a B&B in Vermont.
544
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,601
(VINNIE LAUGHING)
545
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,127
That sounds great. I'd love to see
Mark Baum run a bed and breakfast.
546
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,123
Like, "Here's your
steel-cut oatmeal, asshole."
547
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,806
JARED: Mark refused to kiss the ring
of the people with the chequebooks,
548
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,963
so he had to set up his fund
under Morgan Stanley's umbrella.
549
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,121
(LAUGHING)
550
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,726
His small team reflected
his distrust of the system.
551
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,211
You guys are sick. You're sick.
552
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,448
She says this job is making me unhappy.
553
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:08,607
VINNIE: But you're happy
when you're unhappy.
554
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,165
I am happy when I'm unhappy.
555
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,241
JARED: Vinnie Daniel.
556
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,481
You know how to make a muffin?
557
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,324
- Mark's numbers guy.
- Do you even know how
558
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,811
- to do laundry? Make a bed?
- MARK: Okay...
559
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,531
Vinnie lost his father to a violent crime
when he was young.
560
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,443
Just like Mark, he didn't talk about it.
561
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,806
I don't talk about that.
562
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,201
Cynthia's no joke. She could
actually make him move to Vermont.
563
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,930
I mean, she made me
start wearing a seatbelt.
564
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,724
- Hey, you want me to...
- JARED: Porter Collins.
565
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,047
Former Olympic rower
who went to Brown.
566
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:31,770
He worked with Baum at a previous firm
567
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,809
and couldn't figure out
why no one listened to Baum.
568
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,968
The guy with all the good ideas.
569
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,849
Sorry. I think you have
the wrong FrontPoint.
570
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,725
'Cause there is another FrontPoint
in this same building that is bonds.
571
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,565
And Danny Moses.
The optimist of the bunch.
572
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,680
And a hell of a trader.
573
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,889
Which is the only reason they put up
with his bullshit optimism.
574
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,200
DANNY: That was a weird call.
575
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,602
You take longer with a wrong number
than anybody else.
576
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,365
It was this guy from Deutsche
577
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,966
who was talking about
shorting housing bonds.
578
00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:01,521
And then in the middle of the call
579
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,801
I realised he had the wrong FrontPoint.
580
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,281
And then... 'Cause he wanted
the one on the 8th floor.
581
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,809
He wanted to short housing bonds?
582
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:08,927
Uh-huh. That happens
like five times a day
583
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,485
that somebody gets
the wrong FrontPoint.
584
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,722
- We should change our name.
- VINNIE: Wait. Wait.
585
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,768
He wanted to short housing bonds?
586
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:16,884
- Who bets against housing?
- (TYPING ON COMPUTER)
587
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,046
VINNIE: What's the ABX at?
588
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,366
What's ABX?
589
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,284
It tracks subprime mortgage bond value.
Go back to sleep.
590
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,967
- The ABX is at, uh...
- (BEEPING)
591
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,368
Wow, it's down! It's down
three points since last year.
592
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,681
That's weird. I haven't
heard a peep about that.
593
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:32,807
What was this guy's name?
594
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,042
Jared Vennett. Vennett.
595
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:37,361
JARED: That's right.
These lucky sons of bitches
596
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,171
caught wind of one of the best trades
in Wall Street history
597
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,850
from a wrong number.
598
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,207
They should have paid 10%
to my fuckstick assistant.
599
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,607
DANNY: His name was
Jared Vennett. Vennett.
600
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,648
Jared Vennett from Deutsche.
Sounded very sketchy.
601
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:49,801
VINNIE: Sounds like a douchebag.
602
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,244
(WHISPERING) Do you smell that?
603
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,651
Do you smell that?
604
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,046
I smell money.
605
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,245
This is your basic mortgage...
606
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,202
Okay, hi. How are you?
607
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,966
Have a seat.
608
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,850
MARK: Okay, Mr. Vennett
from Deutsche Bank. What do we have?
609
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,924
There you go.
610
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,926
MARK: So, how many people
have you talked to about this trade?
611
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,765
A few. There's definitely some interest.
612
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,285
- No!
- My boss would have my ass...
613
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:25,771
- N.O.!
- You crazy, Jared?
614
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,410
- Get lost.
- Fuck you.
615
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,925
Which is why you're here talking to us,
a wrong number.
616
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,445
Sounds like there's a lot of interest.
617
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,841
All right. A few people have invited us in
618
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,327
just to laugh at me on this deal.
Is that you?
619
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,447
Is that what this is?
620
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,521
VINNIE: That's not what this is.
621
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,443
That's just how Mark is.
622
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,806
- Let's see what you got.
- I'm sorry.
623
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,530
You smell that? What is that?
624
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,085
- MARK: What?
- What's that smell?
625
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,481
Your cologne?
626
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,641
JARED: No.
627
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,166
Opportunity.
628
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,611
No. Money.
629
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:54,966
- Oh...
- MARK: Okay.
630
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,610
- I smell money.
- Okay.
631
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,765
- Chris, God damn it.
- Sorry.
632
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,406
JARED: This is your
basic mortgage bond.
633
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,721
All right? The originals were simple.
634
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,486
They were just thousands
of AAA mortgages bundled together,
635
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,324
guaranteed by the U.S. government.
636
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,243
The modern ones are different.
637
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,244
They're private. And they're
made up of layers of tranches.
638
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,926
The highest level, AAA,
is getting paid first.
639
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,163
The lowest rated, B, is getting paid last,
taking on defaults first.
640
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,925
Now, obviously, if you're buying B's,
you could make more money.
641
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,161
But they're a little risky.
642
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,402
Sometimes they fail.
643
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,011
Chris?
644
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,081
Somewhere along the line,
these B's and BB's
645
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,650
went from a little risky
646
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,121
to dog shit. Where's the trash?
647
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,241
PORTER: It's right behind you.
648
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,490
I'm talking rock-bottom FICO scores.
649
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:53,561
(THUNKING)
650
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,205
No income verification.
651
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,327
(THUNKING)
652
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,244
Adjustable rates. Dog shit!
653
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,524
The default rates are already up
from 1 % to 4%, fellas.
654
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,841
And if they rise to 8%, and they will,
655
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,887
a lot of these BBB's
are going to zero, too.
656
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,371
And that... You're too close.
657
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,121
...is an opportunity.
658
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,201
- (EXHALES)
- MARK: Okay.
659
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,887
You're saying that at 8% the bonds fail
and we are already at 4%?
660
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:18,961
That's right.
661
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,883
If they go to 8%, it's Armageddon?
662
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:21,961
Yeah. That's right.
663
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,804
How come nobody's talking about this?
664
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,042
You're completely sure of the math?
665
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,691
Look at him. That's my quant.
666
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:29,807
MARK: Your what?
667
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,689
My quantitative!
668
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,491
My math specialist. Look at him.
669
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,881
You notice anything different about him?
Look at his face.
670
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,086
MARK: That's pretty racist.
671
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,606
JARED: Look at his eyes!
I'll give you a hint.
672
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,250
His name's Yang!
673
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,722
He won a national
math competition in China!
674
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,286
He doesn't even speak English!
675
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,044
Yeah, I'm sure of the math.
676
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,606
Actually, my name's Jiang
and I do speak English.
677
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,091
Jared likes to say I don't
because he thinks
678
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,003
it makes me seem more authentic.
679
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,686
And I got second in that
national math competition.
680
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,081
So you're offering us a chance
to short this pile of blocks? How?
681
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,640
With something called
a credit default swap.
682
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,846
(CLAPS HANDS)
683
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,446
It's like insurance on the bond,
and if it goes bust
684
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,683
you can make 10-to-1,
even 20-to-1 return.
685
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,888
And it's already slowly going bust!
686
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,282
10-to-1? 20-to-1? No way.
687
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,283
JARED: And no one's paying attention.
688
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,206
No one is paying attention!
689
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,807
Because the banks are too busy
getting paid obscene fees
690
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,120
to sell these bonds.
691
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,965
But wait. You are the bank.
You work for the bank.
692
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,088
I bet your margins are pretty nice and fat.
693
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,447
Let's not talk about
my margins, by the way.
694
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,608
Being nice and fat, that's a nice shirt.
Do they make it for men?
695
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:42,886
(DANNY AND PORTER SNICKERING)
696
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:43,961
VINNIE: Aren't you the bank?
697
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,964
I work for the bank.
I don't think like a bank.
698
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,886
Big bank, small bank,
I like to make money. All right?
699
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,725
Let me put it this way.
I'm standing in front of a burning house...
700
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,565
And I'm offering you fire insurance on it.
701
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,166
How can these underlying bonds
be as bad as you say?
702
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,486
It wouldn't be legal.
(CLEARS THROAT)
703
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,528
Nobody knows what's in them.
704
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,170
Nobody knows what's in the bonds.
705
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,289
I've seen some that are 65% AAA-rated
706
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,330
that I know for a fact are filled with 95%
707
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,244
subprime shit with FICOs below 550!
708
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,846
Get the fuck out of here.
709
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,251
You want me to really blow your mind?
710
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,890
When the market deems
a bond too risky to buy,
711
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,167
what do you think we do with it?
712
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,366
Take a guess.
713
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,885
I don't know. You tell me.
714
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,885
All right. You think we just
warehouse it on the books? No.
715
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,883
We just repackage it
with a bunch of other shit
716
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,088
that didn't sell and put it into a CDO.
717
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,928
MARK: A CDO?
JARED: Yes. A CDO.
718
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,484
- What is that?
- This is where we take a bunch of B's,
719
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,722
BB's and BBB's that haven't sold,
720
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,484
- and we put them in a pile.
- (CLATTERING)
721
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,008
JARED: And when the pile
gets large enough,
722
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,691
the whole thing is suddenly
considered diversified
723
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,448
and the whores at the rating agency
give it a 92%-93% AAA rating,
724
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,522
no questions asked.
725
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:54,961
(EXHALES)
726
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,726
Hold it. What? Say that again.
727
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,241
A collateralized debt obligation.
728
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,890
It's important to understand
because it's what allowed
729
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,045
a housing crisis to become
a nationwide economic disaster.
730
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,329
Here's world-famous chef
Anthony Bourdain to explain.
731
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,845
(LAUGHS)
732
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,649
ANTHONY: Okay, I'm a chef
on a Sunday afternoon
733
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,489
setting the menu at a big restaurant.
734
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,011
I ordered my fish on Friday,
735
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,811
which is the mortgage bond
that Michael Burry shorted.
736
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,048
But some of the fresh fish doesn't sell.
737
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,724
I don't know why.
Maybe it just came out
738
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,490
halibut has the intelligence of a dolphin.
739
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,289
So, what am I going to do?
740
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,921
Throw all this unsold fish,
which is the BBB level of the bond,
741
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,401
in the garbage and take the loss?
742
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,361
No way.
743
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,886
Being the crafty
and morally onerous chef that I am,
744
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,691
whatever crappy levels
of the bond I don't sell,
745
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,728
I throw into a seafood stew.
746
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,247
See, it's not old fish.
It's a whole new thing!
747
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,006
And the best part is
they're eating 3-day-old halibut.
748
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,764
That is a CDO.
749
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,724
PORTER: I just need to know,
how could these possibly be collated?
750
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,241
Somehow you're like Dora the Explorer
751
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,606
and you're the first person
752
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:01,966
- who found this thing.
- Hold on. Hold on.
753
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,929
So mortgage bonds are dog shit,
754
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,241
CDOs are dog shit wrapped in cat shit.
755
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,321
(BUZZING)
756
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,603
Yeah, that's right.
757
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,207
Institutions treat these CDOs
like they're as solid as treasury bonds,
758
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,520
and they're going to zero.
759
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,647
(CLATTERING)
760
00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:17,961
DANNY: No. That can't be right.
There were $500 billion
761
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,361
in housing bonds sold last year alone.
762
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,286
The rating agencies, the banks,
the fucking government,
763
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,362
you're saying they're
all asleep at the wheel?
764
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,922
Yeah. My whole department's
long on this stuff.
765
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,725
They call me Chicken Little.
They call me Bubble Boy.
766
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,768
- A's, zero. B's, zero.
- (CLATTERING)
767
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,328
BB's, zero. BBB's, zero.
768
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:47,165
And then that happens.
769
00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:48,890
What is that?
770
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:52,449
That's America's housing market.
771
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,481
Thank you.
772
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,527
Fuckin' A, Jared.
773
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,648
Shut your fucking mouth.
774
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,888
- ...hang out with you.
- MARK: Good. Okay.
775
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,128
JARED: Sack up, do the deal.
Let's be friends.
776
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,406
MARK: We will see. Thank you.
777
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,561
JARED: Don't bullshit me.
MARK: All right.
778
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,766
JARED: You're gonna say no, aren't you?
779
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,320
MIKE: No. No, I'm just
evaluating right now.
780
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,084
- Thank you. Thank you for coming in.
- (DOOR OPENS)
781
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,525
Bye, Jared.
782
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:21,971
VINNIE: I don't like it.
783
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,604
He's playing us.
784
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:27,563
He's playing us.
He's got too much skin in the game
785
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,324
and he's dumping his position.
786
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,770
What if he's right?
787
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:32,966
You want him to be right.
788
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,610
MARK: Yes, I do.
789
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,243
The banks have given us
25% interest rates on credit cards.
790
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,049
They have screwed us on student loans
791
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,884
that we can never get out from under.
792
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,169
Then this guy walks into
my office and says
793
00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:48,210
those same banks got greedy,
they lost track of the market,
794
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,328
and I can profit off of their stupidity?
795
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,687
Fuck, yeah, I want him to be right!
796
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,000
VINNIE: How come you
don't hate this guy?
797
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,764
He's everything
you taught us not to trust.
798
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,569
I can't hate him.
He is so transparent
799
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,007
in his self-interest
that I kind of respect him.
800
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,163
- Would I buy a car from him? No.
- (PORTER CHUCKLES)
801
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:04,720
Is he right about the mortgage market?
802
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,962
- No.
- Let's find out. Let's find out.
803
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,403
Look. It's two very simple questions.
804
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,005
Is there a housing bubble?
805
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,651
And if there is,
how exposed are the banks?
806
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:15,767
PORTER: Yeah. Okay.
807
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,285
Let's get on this quickly too.
808
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,725
Because if he's right,
809
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,287
every loser with a couple million bucks
and a fund is gonna be jumping on this.
810
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:23,841
Let's go.
811
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:25,841
(ELEVATOR DINGS)
812
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,685
WOMAN: Just that morning...
813
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,924
(BREATHING DEEPLY)
814
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,122
JPMorgan Chase. JPMorgan Chase.
815
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,241
JAMIE: Okay. Stop saying
"JPMorgan Chase".
816
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,771
I got a good feeling about this.
817
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:41,921
It's just a meeting though, you know?
818
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,610
It's just a meeting. It's something like...
819
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,762
People have meetings
all the time. You know?
820
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,490
People drink their coffee,
they have a meeting.
821
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:49,891
CHRIS: Brownfield Fund?
JAMIE: Yes!
822
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,849
- Hey. Hello.
- CHARLIE: Ted.
823
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,285
Chris. I'm on Ted's desk.
824
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,731
Chris. Okay.
825
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,006
- I'm Charlie, Charlie Geller.
- Charlie.
826
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,684
- Jamie Shipley. Hi.
- Jamie.
827
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,730
We're so excited to get set up
on your trading platform.
828
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:01,966
Cool.
829
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,849
Here, have a seat a second.
830
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:05,561
All right.
831
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:09,644
So, I... Ted had asked me
to do some meeting prep.
832
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:13,042
But I couldn't find
any marketing material on you guys.
833
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,963
We just moved here from Boulder.
834
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,565
- Yeah.
- Got it.
835
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,007
Could we see some
of your offering documents?
836
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,606
Well, Brownfield is its own money.
837
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,884
- It's our money.
- Yeah.
838
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,769
Can you tell us how much you manage?
839
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,322
Of course. We're doing
$30 million right now.
840
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,640
Um, but we started
841
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:33,451
- four years ago with $110,000.
- CHRIS: Wow.
842
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:38,162
So, as you can see,
that's pretty phenomenal returns.
843
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:41,449
We want to get an ISDA agreement
with JPMorgan so we can
844
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,086
deal in long-term options.
845
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,491
- That's really cool.
- Yeah.
846
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,169
That is so cool.
847
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:01,321
Thank you.
848
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,604
But you guys are under
the capital requirements for an ISDA.
849
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:06,761
By how much?
850
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,401
Uh...
851
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,968
One billion four hundred
seventy million, so...
852
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,530
...a lot.
853
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,250
This makes us look bad, doesn't it,
854
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,529
that we didn't know
what the capital requirements were?
855
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:21,601
Uh...
856
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,571
It's not great.
857
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,366
But, uh,
858
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,920
keep up those returns and give us a call
859
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,809
way down the line. You know.
860
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:30,881
Okay?
861
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,291
- Okay.
- Thanks, Chris.
862
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,361
Have a good one, guys.
863
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:34,441
CHARLIE: Thank you, Chris.
864
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:37,961
(SIGHS)
865
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:39,761
Shit!
866
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,160
Who the fuck schedules a meeting
867
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,408
- at 4:50 in the afternoon?
- Oh, my, God.
868
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,209
That was so painful.
869
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,927
Dude, B of A and Bear
didn't even return our calls.
870
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,207
And even fucking Wachovia
871
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,924
- blew us off, man!
- I know.
872
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,401
Here's the prospectuses
of all the other losers
873
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,164
who didn't make it past the lobby.
874
00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:00,129
JAMIE: I don't think I can
do this any more. You know.
875
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,090
I'm young, yet.
I can still do something with my life.
876
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,208
I miss Colorado anyway.
The weed's better.
877
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,162
Gentlemen, I need you to leave.
878
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,645
Yep, yep, we're going. Let's go.
879
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:10,926
Look at this. Look at this.
880
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,331
This guy
881
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,324
says that the housing market's
a giant bubble.
882
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,641
(INHALES)
883
00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:19,882
Okay, so this part
isn't totally accurate, you know.
884
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,042
We didn't find Jared Vennett's
housing bubble pitch
885
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,083
in the lobby of a bank that rejected us.
886
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,605
The truth is, um,
887
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,570
a friend had told Charlie about it,
and I read about it
888
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,051
in Grant's Interest Rate Observer.
889
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,485
This is crazy.
890
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,086
This is crazy stuff.
891
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,806
Shit, he's saying
that there's 10-to-1 returns
892
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,521
on credit default swaps
for mortgage-backed securities?
893
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,291
And the whole housing market
is about to collapse?
894
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,724
JARED: For Jamie and Charlie,
the housing market
895
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,280
doomsday prediction
was music to their ears.
896
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,044
(SINGING)
897
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,848
They had started working
out of Jamie's garage
898
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,843
with $110,000 Jamie had saved
899
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:02,002
taking sailboats up and down
the East Coast.
900
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,729
Our investment strategy was simple.
901
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,848
People hate to think about
bad things happening,
902
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,321
so they always underestimate
their likelihood.
903
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,880
JARED: Their strategy
was simple and brilliant.
904
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,481
What he said.
905
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,291
Jamie and Charlie found markets
will sell options very cheaply
906
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,567
on things they think will never happen.
907
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,244
So when they were wrong,
they were wrong small,
908
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,288
but when they were right,
they were right big.
909
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,691
(IMITATING EXPLOSION)
910
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,886
Within a few years they had
turned $110,000 into $30 million.
911
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,689
But then it was time
to go to New York City.
912
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,331
And so far, it wasn't going very well.
913
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,164
So what if it does seem interesting. No...
914
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:43,767
No bank will give us our ISDA.
We're dead in the water.
915
00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:47,686
These kind of trades
are totally out of the question.
916
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,444
We got to call Ben.
917
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:51,521
(EXHALES)
918
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,090
Let's call Ben!
919
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,042
JARED: Ben Rickert was
a former trader in Singapore
920
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,885
for Chase who quit
the whole game in disgust.
921
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,327
He happened to be Jamie's neighbour
when they were in Colorado
922
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,562
and they met walking dogs.
923
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,130
But Ben was dark.
924
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:07,288
He didn't just think
the whole system would fail.
925
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,567
He thought the whole world
was going down.
926
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,682
Every one of these vegetables
is fresh from my garden.
927
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:15,886
(CHOPPING)
928
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,486
BEN: You guys should
start your own garden.
929
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,921
What you got to do is get
your soil off the petrochemicals.
930
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,047
JAMIE: Hmm.
931
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,327
I used wood ash and urine
to help restore the soil.
932
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,004
It creates ammonium nitrate.
933
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,844
Seeds are gonna be the new currency.
934
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,962
And not those Franken-seeds
from Monsanto.
935
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,646
I'm talking about good,
healthy, organic seeds.
936
00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:32,846
Make yourself a garden.
937
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,410
- Learn to live off the land.
- You're a fucking lunatic.
938
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,687
JARED: Ben had real
experience in a big bank.
939
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,481
Jamie and Charlie had never even
been in a Manhattan bank bathroom.
940
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,244
But Ben was done
with the banking world.
941
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:43,651
He was very clear.
942
00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:45,324
JAMIE: All right,
let's crunch some numbers
943
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,767
and then maybe
we'll talk about calling Ben.
944
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:48,921
We're always crunching numbers.
945
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,081
When haven't we
crunched the numbers?
946
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,127
We're gonna crunch
the numbers like harder...
947
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,201
GUARD: I need you out of here.
948
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,247
Of course. One second.
949
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,321
Yes, ma'am. We're going.
950
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,607
PORTER: Oh, God. I hate this.
This is a total waste of time.
951
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,161
Oh, come on. Would you relax?
952
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,049
There's a housing development
45 minutes outside town.
953
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,003
Mark wants us to check that out first.
954
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,082
Well, I hope there are some
Cuban restaurants on the way there.
955
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,811
Because I heard the Cuban food
is amazing in Miami.
956
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,611
Please don't be chipper
in the face of me being miserable.
957
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,364
It really makes me hate you.
958
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,966
How is wanting to eat good food
being chipper?
959
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,841
Hello?
960
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,520
Hello?
961
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:27,685
PORTER: What do these go for?
962
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,049
DANNY: $425,000 each?
963
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,250
(DOG BARKING)
964
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,040
(KNOCKING ON DOOR)
965
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,484
What's up, man?
What do you want?
966
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,882
Hello. I'm surveying mortgage owners
who are over 90 days delinquent.
967
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,531
I'm looking for a Harvey Humpsey.
968
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:01,761
You want my landlord's dog?
969
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,410
Your landlord filled out
his mortgage application
970
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,960
using his dog's name?
971
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,491
I guess so.
972
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,086
Wait, has that asshole
not been paying his mortgage?
973
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,491
'Cause I've been paying my rent.
974
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,483
Well, yeah, he is over
90 days delinquent.
975
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,445
Seriously, man,
976
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,329
am I gonna have to leave?
977
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,970
(FOOTSTEPS APPROACHING)
978
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,247
'Cause my kid just got
settled in school, man.
979
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,482
Hey. How are ya?
980
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,321
My name's Ken.
981
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:29,680
You're Ken?
982
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,569
Um, you should talk
to your landlord about that.
983
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,165
I'm sorry, I don't have
any more information.
984
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:34,605
But you, um...
985
00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:36,844
You have a great day.
See ya, Ken.
986
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,365
KEN: There's books everywhere!
987
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,681
Books everywhere?
988
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,003
Seriously, man,
is everything gonna be okay?
989
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,209
You should...
You should call him.
990
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:48,327
You should give him a call.
991
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,084
It's not my fault, dude.
I've been paying...
992
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,685
(DOOR CREAKING)
993
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,041
Hello!
994
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,088
Looks like the Mary Celeste.
995
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,970
Look. All they took was the TV.
996
00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:06,688
DANNY: It's weird.
997
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,081
PORTER: They didn't even
clean out the cat litter.
998
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:18,687
PORTER: Oh, God.
999
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,243
It's like Chernobyl.
1000
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,722
There's like a hundred houses.
There can't be four people living here.
1001
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,967
- Oh, fuck that!
- Shit!
1002
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,487
(HEAVY METAL MUSIC PLAYING)
1003
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:55,966
MAN: He's been in there for seven hours.
1004
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,684
Where does he go to the bathroom?
1005
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,406
I heard he had a breakdown.
1006
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,448
- He's letting the fund tank.
- (TELEPHONE RINGING)
1007
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,010
My buddy in Manhattan said...
1008
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,684
Dr. Burry's office.
1009
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,610
No, he actually prefers
that you email him.
1010
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:07,966
Excuse me.
1011
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,321
Mr. Fields, Mr...
1012
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,204
- Hi, Lawrence.
- (WHISPERING) Holy shit!
1013
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,361
We have no confidence
in your ability to identify
1014
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,044
macroeconomic trends.
1015
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,725
(MUSIC STOPPING)
1016
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,931
MIKE: You flew here
to tell me that? Why?
1017
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,402
Anyone can see
that there is a real estate bubble.
1018
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,323
Actually, no one can see a bubble.
1019
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,640
That's what makes it a bubble.
1020
00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:36,007
That's dumb, Lawrence.
1021
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,684
There's always markers.
1022
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,886
Mortgage fraud has
1023
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,724
quintupled since 2000
1024
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,684
and the average take-home pay is flat,
1025
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,250
but home prices are soaring.
1026
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,402
That means the homes
are debt, not assets.
1027
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,687
So Mike Burry of San Jose, a guy who
1028
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,082
gets his hair cut at Supercuts
and doesn't wear shoes,
1029
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,090
knows more than Alan Greenspan
and Hank Paulson.
1030
00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:00,241
Well...
1031
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,526
Dr. Mike Burry,
yes, he does. (CHUCKLES)
1032
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:06,529
That's cute. That's cute.
1033
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,967
Are you being sarcastic with us, Mike?
1034
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,001
(SIGHS)
1035
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,491
Lawrence,
1036
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,080
I don't know how to be sarcastic.
1037
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,570
I don't know how to be funny.
I don't know how to
1038
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,690
work people.
1039
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:22,921
I...
1040
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,367
I just know how to read numbers.
1041
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,920
How big is your short position right now?
1042
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,367
Um...
1043
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,010
Just $1.3 billion.
1044
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,965
And the premiums?
1045
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,451
Well, we pay, uh,
1046
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,282
- roughly $80 to 90 million
- (MARTIN LAUGHING)
1047
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,850
each year, which is high,
1048
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,008
but I was the first to do this trade.
1049
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,527
Watch. It will pay. I may have
been early, but I'm not wrong.
1050
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,967
It's the same thing.
It's the same thing, Mike!
1051
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,930
You're managing a fund of,
what, $555 million?
1052
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,967
In six years, it'll all be gone.
1053
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,165
On one bet.
1054
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:02,483
No, the second quarter of '07 is
when the adjustable rates kick in.
1055
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,050
The defaults will skyrocket.
1056
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,849
Yeah. Says you.
1057
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,400
LAWRENCE: How much is eligible
for withdrawal before they do?
1058
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,403
Say, in the next two quarters.
1059
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,168
If your investors panic.
1060
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:17,687
$302 million?
1061
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:18,761
I...
1062
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,290
My God, Mike.
1063
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:23,725
(MIKE CHUCKLES)
1064
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,088
No one will pull out.
That would be suicide.
1065
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,527
I mean, I'm down 17% for the year.
1066
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,961
But if they trust me,
and they trust me, because...
1067
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,691
No one trusts you! No one!
1068
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,161
I sent several emails to my investors
1069
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,328
letting them know that the...
1070
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:41,887
(EXHALES)
1071
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,406
...the second quarter of '07 is when our
1072
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,966
housing positions show returns and...
1073
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:49,600
I've been very clear.
1074
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,244
People will withdraw their money.
1075
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,282
Lawrence, that would be so stupid.
I mean, the...
1076
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,842
(STUTTERS) If the fund's capitals
drop too much,
1077
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,403
then the swaps contracts are voided.
1078
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,768
And then the banks get to
keep all of the collateral.
1079
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,042
- MARTIN: Wait a minute. Wait.
- All of it.
1080
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,165
The contracts are voided?
1081
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,530
Holy shit!
1082
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,047
Oh, motherfucker!
1083
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,170
- Michael?
- (TAPPING)
1084
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,210
Give me my money back.
1085
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,042
Michael, do you hear me?
I want my money back.
1086
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,841
Give me my fucking money back...
1087
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,530
(LAUGHS) ...you motherfucker.
1088
00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:40,403
The market's in an itsy-bitsy
little gully right now.
1089
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,721
It's like everybody said,
"Okay, that was crazy.
1090
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,689
"Let's just all calm down."
1091
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,723
I sold that house for $350,000
the year it was built.
1092
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,562
Two years later, $480,000.
1093
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,923
Then $585,000 maybe 18 months ago.
1094
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,571
This couple bought it
for $650,000 last year.
1095
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,883
He'd let it go for that.
1096
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,689
Hi, John.
1097
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:03,761
(MOUTHING) No, no, no.
1098
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:05,771
It will break his heart, but he'll let it go.
1099
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,644
Why is he selling?
1100
00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:09,563
MARLENE: Neither one's
working right now.
1101
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,166
Marlene, you'd say
they're motivated, right?
1102
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,284
As motivated as one can be
in this neighbourhood.
1103
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,886
This house on the left,
I would say they're probably motivated.
1104
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,928
Wow, a lot of people
seem very motivated.
1105
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,126
MARLENE: Oh, it's just the gully.
1106
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,164
That's all. Just...
1107
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:25,651
Just nerves.
1108
00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:27,449
So where do we stand?
1109
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,126
I need to talk to my wife. Um...
1110
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,531
MAN: This market won't last.
1111
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,364
MARK: Actually, could I talk
to a mortgage broker?
1112
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,283
Anybody you recommend?
Anybody you like.
1113
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,362
MARLENE: Yes, yes, I have
someone. Absolutely.
1114
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:39,726
Yeah, bitch better like me.
1115
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,040
Sent her ass to Cabo.
1116
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:42,605
(ALL LAUGHING)
1117
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,251
So is Morgan Stanley
recruiting us? Is that it?
1118
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,564
Oh, no. No.
The bank owns our hedge fund,
1119
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:49,641
but we're not really part of it.
1120
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,206
We invest in financial service companies
1121
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,284
and we're trying to understand
the residential mortgage business.
1122
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,330
How many loans
do you write each month?
1123
00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,925
- (BLOWS AIR) About 60.
- Yeah.
1124
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,490
What was it four years ago?
1125
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:03,766
- Ten...
- (PORTER WHISTLES)
1126
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,126
Maybe 15.
1127
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,487
Yeah, I was a bartender.
Now I own a boat.
1128
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:08,561
(LAUGHING) You own a...
1129
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,883
So how many of these are
adjustable-rate mortgages?
1130
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,610
- MAN IN BLACK: Well, most.
- Oh, yeah.
1131
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,648
Yeah, I'd say about 90%.
1132
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,889
The bonuses on those
skyrocketed a few years ago.
1133
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,246
Adjustable's our bread and honey.
1134
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,891
So do applicants ever get rejected?
1135
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,365
(BOTH LAUGHING)
1136
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,406
Seriously?
1137
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,402
Look, if they get rejected,
I suck at my job.
1138
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:32,970
DANNY: Even if they have no money?
1139
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,930
Well, my firm offers NINJA loans.
1140
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,526
- PORTER: Okay.
- "No Income, No Job."
1141
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,002
I just leave the income section
blank if I want.
1142
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,366
Corporate doesn't care.
1143
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,762
These people just want homes.
And they go with the flow.
1144
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:46,807
PORTER: Good for you.
1145
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:47,927
Your companies don't verify?
1146
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,648
If I write a loan on Friday afternoon,
1147
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,522
a big bank will buy it by Monday lunch.
1148
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,411
Yeah. Same here.
1149
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,565
Could you hold on a second?
1150
00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:03,085
Yeah.
1151
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,445
I don't get it.
Why are they confessing?
1152
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,488
They're not confessing.
1153
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,250
They're bragging.
1154
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:23,920
(MARK CLEARS THROAT)
1155
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:28,085
Do people have any idea
what they are buying?
1156
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,247
(CHUCKLES) I focus on
the immigrants, you know.
1157
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:32,731
Once they find out
they're getting a home,
1158
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,404
they sign where you tell them to sign.
1159
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,642
Don't ask questions.
Don't understand the rates.
1160
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:38,165
- Fucking idiots.
- Yeah.
1161
00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:39,651
And you target immigrants, too?
1162
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,570
Well, their credit actually
isn't bad enough for him.
1163
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:43,721
(CHUCKLES)
1164
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,164
Look, I'm a yield guy.
1165
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:47,761
Okay...
1166
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,202
I make $2,000
on a fixed-rate prime loan, right?
1167
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,921
But I can make $10,000
on a subprime adjustable.
1168
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,004
Trust me, I'm not driving a 7 Series
without strippers.
1169
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,368
No one on the pole has good credit
and they're all cash rich.
1170
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,761
I think I read Warren Buffett
say something like that.
1171
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,521
What? Who's Warren Buffett?
1172
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,765
Okay, so strippers.
Like exotic dancers?
1173
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1174
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,128
Nude, you know, topless.
1175
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,043
- Strippers.
- Yeah.
1176
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:20,840
Can you introduce us?
1177
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,366
Yes! Yes.
1178
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:24,680
(AUDIENCE CHEERING)
1179
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,324
I always get option-pay adjustables.
I'm a private contractor.
1180
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,084
MARK: What? I can't hear you. I'm sorry.
1181
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,003
I always get option-pay adjustables.
1182
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,321
I'm a private contractor.
I need flexibility.
1183
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,011
And you tell the mortgage company
what you do?
1184
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,082
I write "therapist".
1185
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:40,650
- You can touch me.
- Always?
1186
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,327
Only in V.I.P.
1187
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,006
No, no, no, you say
you always do adjustables.
1188
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,889
And you have more than
one loan on a property?
1189
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,201
Everybody does.
At least down here.
1190
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,281
MARK: I'm sorry, what?
1191
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,931
Everybody does.
At least down here.
1192
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,202
That way you only put down, like, 5%.
1193
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,089
Prices have levelled off, though, right?
1194
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,003
Yeah. There's a gully.
1195
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,801
Would you mind not moving any more?
I'll still pay you.
1196
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,291
Sorry. We're not alone.
1197
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,011
Okay, look. If home prices don't go up,
1198
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,367
you are not going to be able to refinance.
1199
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,609
And you'll be stuck paying
whatever your monthly payment is
1200
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,411
once it jumps up
after your teaser rate expires.
1201
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,848
Your monthlies could go up 200%-300%.
1202
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,328
James says I can always refinance.
1203
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,209
Well, he's a liar.
1204
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,409
Actually, in this particular case,
James probably is wrong.
1205
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,768
200 percent? On all my loans?
1206
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,251
What do you mean "all" your loans?
1207
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,721
We're talking about two loans
on one house, right?
1208
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,528
I have five houses.
1209
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,608
And a condo.
1210
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,005
Hey, there's a bubble.
1211
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:47,081
VINNIE: How do you know?
1212
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,562
Trust me. Call Vennett,
buy $50 million in swaps on the MBS.
1213
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,650
What do we got? Garibaldi IV, BBB.
1214
00:54:53,720 --> 00:54:55,165
Mark, are you sure?
1215
00:54:55,240 --> 00:54:57,129
Yeah. Yeah, it's time to call bullshit.
1216
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,885
- Bullshit on what?
- Every fucking thing.
1217
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,405
(TYPING)
1218
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,205
(COMPUTER CHIMES)
1219
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:25,690
FrontPoint! FrontPoint!
1220
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,329
Is this America's angriest hedge fund?
1221
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,562
VINNIE: All right, listen.
I got one last question for you.
1222
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,603
How are you fucking us?
1223
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:37,925
There's a nicer way to say that, Vinnie.
1224
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,570
I'm serious.
1225
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,723
We'll buy your swaps,
but only if you say how you're fucking us.
1226
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,326
I'm not fucking you, Vinnie.
I'm kissing you.
1227
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,171
I'm looking deep into your eyes
as I make love to you, Vinnie.
1228
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,568
I'm handing you the deal of the century
on a fucking platter.
1229
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,007
What do I get out of it? Easy.
1230
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,521
I got a $20-million-a-month
negative carry.
1231
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,011
I got bosses trying to pull the plug
1232
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,526
because they think
I'm out of my fucking mind.
1233
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:01,567
All right?
1234
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:02,721
We make this trade,
1235
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,201
those problems aren't so big any more.
1236
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:09,046
And sure, swaps are a dark market,
so I set the price.
1237
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:10,565
Whatever price I want.
1238
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,085
And when you come for the payday,
1239
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,407
I'm gonna rip your eyes out,
I'm gonna make a fortune.
1240
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,045
But the good news is, Vinnie,
you're not gonna care
1241
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,327
because you're gonna make
so much fucking money.
1242
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:20,731
That's what I get out of it.
1243
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,086
Want to know what you get out of it?
1244
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,687
You get the ice cream, the hot fudge,
the banana, and the nuts.
1245
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,569
Right now, I get the sprinkles, and, yeah,
1246
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,246
if this goes through, I get the cherry.
1247
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,561
But you get the sundae, Vinnie.
1248
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,324
You get the sundae.
1249
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:39,530
All right, I buy that. Thank you.
1250
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,762
So what do you say?
1251
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,729
- You want me to make you a market?
- Yeah.
1252
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,327
We'll take $50 million, Garibaldi IV, BBB.
1253
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,848
Sharpen your pencils.
I'll get the paperwork ready.
1254
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,446
(SIGHS)
1255
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,045
Fuck you, too.
1256
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,490
Yes!
1257
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:01,681
That's right.
1258
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,523
- Oh, man.
- (EXHALES DEEPLY)
1259
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,844
He has so many numbers,
and I always forget
1260
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:11,570
which one he prefers,
because he's very specific.
1261
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:12,846
Start with the first one.
1262
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,126
I don't know if it's the first one.
1263
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:15,566
Just try it.
1264
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,210
Okay. I... Okay.
1265
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,564
(COUNTRY MUSIC PLAYING)
1266
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,130
(LINE RINGING)
1267
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,804
(BIRD SCREECHING)
1268
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:26,961
(PHONE RINGING)
1269
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,565
- Ben Rickert.
- Hey, Ben. It's Jamie.
1270
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,043
Jamie, you know you're
not supposed to use this line.
1271
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:42,731
(DIAL TONE)
1272
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:44,720
Told you.
1273
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,765
Okay, let's try number two out of 14.
1274
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,048
(LINE RINGING)
1275
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:55,521
(PHONE RINGING)
1276
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:00,287
(DIAL TONE)
1277
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:01,361
Ben Rickert.
1278
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,488
Ben, why do you do that, man? I mean...
1279
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,006
You're a retired trader, okay?
No one is listening to your calls.
1280
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,730
The NSA has a $52 billion budget
and the ability
1281
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,211
to monitor tens of millions
of calls a second.
1282
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,601
You think they're not using it?
1283
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,530
Hey, I promise I will refrain from saying
1284
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,807
"Ben Rickert" and "dirty bomb"
in the same sent...
1285
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:18,361
(BEEPS)
1286
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,330
- Jesus fucking Christ.
- I'm sorry, dude.
1287
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:21,890
- (PHONE RINGING)
- (BEEPS)
1288
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,086
Ben Rickert.
1289
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,561
Did you get a chance to look
at what we sent you, Ben?
1290
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,802
It's Charlie. I'm here, too.
1291
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,921
Hi, Charlie. Yeah, I did. Hold on.
1292
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:37,961
Ben, you still there?
1293
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:39,241
Yeah.
1294
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,008
I'll be honest, gentlemen.
1295
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,043
It scared the shit out of me.
1296
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:45,525
But that's a good thing, right?
1297
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,444
That means this Vennett guy's
not wrong.
1298
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,201
No, he's not.
1299
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:53,927
Cool.
1300
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,570
Tell me more about these CDOs.
1301
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,440
JAMIE: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so, you know,
Vennett mentions the CDOs,
1302
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,090
but actually, we took a look
1303
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:02,810
and they're way worse
than even he realises.
1304
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,331
These things don't make any sense!
1305
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:05,686
JAMIE: We can't even model them.
1306
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,491
These are 100 times bigger
than the MBS.
1307
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,130
And 90% AAA-rated.
1308
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:11,964
- Yes! Exactly!
- Over 90%.
1309
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:13,206
It's incredible.
1310
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,483
I took a good hard look
at the CDOs you want to short.
1311
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,606
They're brilliant. Worthless. Total crap.
1312
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,448
- Jamie. Very good.
- (LAUGHS)
1313
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,047
What can I say?
I'm good at finding shit.
1314
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,885
CHARLIE: So, Ben, we shorted
the BB's and the BBB's,
1315
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,048
and the risk is relatively low.
1316
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,771
- Payoff is, like, 25-to-1.
- Yeah.
1317
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,248
Okay, so, why are you calling me?
I don't do this any more.
1318
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:39,481
Look, Ben?
1319
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,521
We need you to help us get the ISDA.
1320
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,723
If we get a hunting license,
we can short this crap.
1321
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:48,961
And we know you hate Wall Street.
1322
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:50,241
We're not asking you to do the trading.
1323
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:54,291
We're simply asking you
to help us get a seat
1324
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,563
at the fucking table.
1325
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,563
It's a pretty ugly table, guys.
1326
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:04,646
Look, Ben, the system fucked up
in a big, big way here, okay?
1327
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,802
And somehow, uh,
1328
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,811
we know before anyone else.
1329
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,084
You know?
This is a once-in-a-lifetime deal.
1330
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:16,641
I'm thinking.
1331
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,683
Okay. I'll call Deutsche Bank.
1332
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,001
Thank you, Ben. Thank you.
1333
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,687
And Bear. What about Bear?
They have some reprehensible product.
1334
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,321
Okay. Bear will trade with anybody.
1335
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,245
All right.
I'll see if I can push it through.
1336
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,163
Thank you, Noah.
And thank Jared for us.
1337
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:28,326
Couldn't we go inside?
1338
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:29,646
Yeah, me, too.
1339
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,121
Hi. It's Mark. I need to
talk to Vinnie right now.
1340
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,602
We're just asking you to explain to us
1341
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,241
just how it is that you are fucking us,
1342
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:23,560
because what we are seeing...
1343
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:27,845
Morgan Stanley building, fast.
1344
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,206
Are we hooked up
to the same computer screen?
1345
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:32,964
It doesn't make any sense.
1346
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:34,969
(INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS)
1347
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,251
MARK: Vinnie, you there?
1348
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:38,681
Mark, you there?
1349
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:39,761
Yeah, did you hear?
1350
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,604
Mortgage defaults have
gone through the roof.
1351
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,091
Is anybody jumping off of buildings yet?
1352
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,401
Why would they?
Subprime mortgage bond prices are up.
1353
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:46,527
What?
1354
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,922
Vennett wants $1.9 million more
in collateral by close.
1355
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,286
Vennett's asking us to post collateral.
1356
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:52,771
What the hell is going on?
1357
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,808
We don't know, but Deutsche's
on the phone demanding payment.
1358
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,723
Call Vennett. Call that little shit.
1359
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,768
Call Vennett.
Tell him to get his ass down here.
1360
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,649
So subprime loans go bad,
1361
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,963
but subprime bonds, which are made up
of subprime loans, are more valuable?
1362
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,486
I know. They want another
$1.9 million by market close.
1363
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,807
What about the ratings agencies?
Moody's, S&P...
1364
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,281
Are they downgrading the CDOs
and mortgage bonds?
1365
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:12,407
Where are the ratings agencies at?
1366
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,010
They're the fucking same.
1367
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:15,610
No, they're all still AAA.
1368
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,160
What the hell?
Are you fucking kidding me?
1369
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,322
Those fuckers! Those motherfuckers!
1370
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,410
They go public, and all they care about
is their bottom line and their shit.
1371
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,209
Hey, Mark, that's not all.
1372
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:26,651
The Morgan Stanley risk guys are here.
1373
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,051
They called in Kathy Tao.
1374
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,327
They're trying to convince her
to make us sell our swaps.
1375
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,607
Apparently, tying up six years
of insurance payments
1376
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,444
in hopes of a housing Armageddon
1377
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:35,760
is not prudent investing.
1378
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:37,166
What did Kathy say?
1379
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,971
Nothing yet. She keeps asking
if this is one of your crusades.
1380
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,008
Okay, I want you to walk back in there
1381
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:43,684
and very calmly, very politely,
1382
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,445
tell the risk assessors to fuck off.
1383
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,244
And then meet me over
at Standard & Poor's.
1384
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:49,845
We're gonna talk to Georgia.
1385
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,001
VINNIE: All right. Okay.
1386
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:52,969
Get that fuck Jared Vennett in this office.
1387
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,849
I'm gonna bash his fucking head in.
1388
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,487
(INAUDIBLE)
1389
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:01,444
Uh, gentlemen?
1390
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,603
I spoke with Mark Baum.
He says to fuck off.
1391
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,681
I can't see a damn thing.
1392
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,560
(SIGHS) My eye doctor's always busy.
1393
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,449
I end up taking
any appointment they'll give me,
1394
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,887
and then the whole morning
gets shot to hell!
1395
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:31,530
So...
1396
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,530
All righty,
1397
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,440
FrontPoint Partners,
1398
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,327
how can Standard & Poor's help you?
1399
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:40,686
VINNIE: Well, we don't understand why
1400
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,411
the ratings agencies haven't
downgraded subprime bonds
1401
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,563
since the underlying loans
are clearly deteriorating.
1402
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,041
Well, the delinquency rates
do have people worried,
1403
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:50,884
but they're actually within our models.
1404
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,928
- So...
- VINNIE: Says you.
1405
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,526
...you're convinced
the underlying mortgages
1406
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,046
in these bonds are solid loans.
1407
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,083
GEORGIA: That is our opinion, yes.
1408
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,208
Have you looked at the loan-level data?
1409
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,049
I mean, they're giving these loans
1410
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:06,360
to anybody with a credit score
and a pulse.
1411
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,091
Excuse me, sir. What do you think
we do here all day?
1412
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:10,161
VINNIE: We're not sure.
That's why we're here.
1413
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:11,366
Here's what I don't understand...
1414
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,169
We check, recheck, recheck again.
1415
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:14,566
MARK: If these mortgage bonds
are so stable...
1416
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:16,364
Perhaps you could check your friend.
1417
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,442
MARK: ...have you ever refused to rate...
1418
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:19,925
VINNIE: Ma'am, that's delusional.
1419
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,081
GEORGIA: We stand behind them.
1420
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:22,764
MARK: Georgia,
have you ever refused to rate
1421
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,128
any of these bonds upper tranches AAA?
1422
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:27,804
Can we see the paperwork
on those deals?
1423
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:29,882
I am under no obligation
to share that information
1424
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,047
with you, whoever you might be.
1425
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:32,844
Just answer the question, Georgia.
1426
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:34,928
Can you name one time in the past year
1427
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,365
where you checked the tape
1428
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:40,650
and you didn't give the banks
the AAA percentage they wanted?
1429
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:44,086
If we don't give them the ratings,
1430
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,083
they'll go to Moody's,
right down the block.
1431
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,322
If we don't work with them,
they will go to our competitors.
1432
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:54,163
Not our fault.
Simply the way the world works.
1433
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,006
- VINNIE: Holy shit.
- Yes, now you see.
1434
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,122
And I never said that.
1435
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,601
They're selling ratings for fees.
1436
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:07,647
A ratings shop.
1437
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,564
You can afford to make less. Make less.
1438
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,529
Nobody said that.
1439
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,807
And it is not my decision.
I have a boss.
1440
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,245
Are you kidding me?
1441
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:17,646
No, I am not "kidding you".
1442
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,007
How'd your boss do on the IPO?
1443
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:21,326
MARK: Is that the angle you're taking?
1444
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:25,007
So, now, anyone who has a boss
can't be held responsible
1445
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:26,491
for doing shitty and illegal things.
1446
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,130
What are you, four?
1447
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:32,489
No, I am not four, Mr. Baum.
I am not, no.
1448
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,962
And I wonder what
your incentives might be.
1449
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:37,605
Is it maybe in your best interest
1450
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,730
to have the ratings change?
Is it, perhaps?
1451
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,051
How many credit default swaps
do you own? Hmm?
1452
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,003
It doesn't make me wrong.
1453
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:50,161
No.
1454
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,402
It just makes you a hypocrite.
1455
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,124
(HEAVY METAL MUSIC PLAYING)
1456
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,002
Fuck!
1457
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:36,201
BEN: Mortgage delinquencies went up
1458
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,368
and the CDOs got more valuable.
Unbelievable.
1459
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,727
- Unbelievable.
- We know. It's completely backwards.
1460
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,370
I just called an old friend at Bear.
1461
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,124
He didn't even know what a CDO is.
1462
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:48,569
JAMIE: Yeah, I just had to wire
Bear and Deutsche $70,000.
1463
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,007
It's like two plus two equals
1464
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:52,606
fish.
1465
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,365
CHARLIE: It's rigged.
We bought into a rigged game.
1466
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,244
We're gonna lose everything.
1467
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,800
I'm gonna have to move
back in with my mom.
1468
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:01,765
Can't do that.
1469
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:03,968
BEN: All right.
Well, I got a colonic appointment.
1470
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:05,724
Wait a minute. Hold on, Ben.
1471
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,131
Ben, look.
1472
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,601
Either the banks are clueless
1473
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,967
and they don't know
how to value these CDOs,
1474
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:17,046
or they're such crooks
that the CDOs are worth shit
1475
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:18,850
and they're hiding it.
1476
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:22,610
I think we should buy more swaps.
1477
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:24,201
What?
1478
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,282
Suck it up and pay up, fellas.
We made a deal.
1479
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,408
No way! No!
1480
01:08:28,480 --> 01:08:29,891
Are you fucking kidding me?
1481
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,321
Are you serious?
You think this is a game?
1482
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:33,686
No. No. No. No. No.
1483
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,086
Yeah. Yeah.
1484
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,642
(ALL SHOUTING)
1485
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,284
No! No! No!
1486
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,084
BEN: No, seriously,
a colonic once a year.
1487
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:46,167
DANNY: Ass!
1488
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,607
PORTER: And you got a matching
little butler boy, you buttfuck!
1489
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:49,681
(SIGHS)
1490
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:54,763
- Are you done?
- DANNY: I think so, yeah.
1491
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,605
God! I pulled a muscle
in my back from yelling.
1492
01:08:58,520 --> 01:08:59,521
Ow!
1493
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,562
VINNIE: Mortgage defaults
have done nothing but go up.
1494
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:07,089
Yet you quote us
a higher price on the bonds.
1495
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,042
Please explain that to me.
There's no way that makes sense.
1496
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:13,124
There's no way you're marking
these swaps appropriately.
1497
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,683
Why shouldn't we back out
of this trade right now?
1498
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:19,890
JARED: Didn't I say when
we made this deal
1499
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,650
that the ratings agencies, the SEC
1500
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,206
and the big banks were clueless?
Didn't I say that?
1501
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:25,566
- CHRIS: Yes.
- Didn't I say it?
1502
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:27,489
Yes, you did. You did.
1503
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,085
Shut up.
1504
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:30,525
Now their foot's on fire, they think
1505
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,170
their steak is done,
and you're surprised?
1506
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,005
That's not stupidity. That's fraud.
1507
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:36,844
Tell me the difference
between stupid and illegal,
1508
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:38,888
and I'll have my wife's brother arrested.
1509
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,200
(SNICKERS)
1510
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:41,761
That was funny.
1511
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:45,561
JARED: I guess you just don't realise
how clueless the system really is.
1512
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,961
Yes, there's some
shady shit going down,
1513
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:51,408
but trust me, it's fuelled by stupidity!
1514
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:53,965
Look at yourselves.
1515
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:58,207
You know,
you pass yourself off as cynical people
1516
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,681
but you still have some faith
in the system, don't you?
1517
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,040
I don't.
1518
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:05,010
Well, except for Vinnie.
And who gives a shit?
1519
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:06,844
- JAMIE: No way!
- Look...
1520
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,083
Either we're right or we're wrong
in a giant, giant way.
1521
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,049
And if we're wrong,
then we got to find someone
1522
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:13,770
to help us get out of this trade.
1523
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,605
I'm not feeling remotely confident
that we're right.
1524
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,082
And if we're wrong,
who's gonna tell us?
1525
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,642
Who understands this stuff?
It makes no sense!
1526
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:25,001
(STATIC)
1527
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:27,849
BEN: I think we need to go to Vegas.
1528
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,127
- What's in Vegas?
- Vegas?
1529
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,089
What the hell's in Las Vegas?
1530
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,403
The American Securitization Forum
is there next week.
1531
01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:38,926
Every bond and CDO salesman,
subprime lender
1532
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,082
and swap trader is gonna be there.
1533
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,925
I'm telling you,
your bet is against dumb money.
1534
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,810
It's about time you find out
just how dumb that money really is.
1535
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,006
PORTER: God, I hate Vegas.
1536
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:49,571
I hear the food has gotten
really good in Vegas.
1537
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:51,125
They have a Nobu now.
1538
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:52,804
Would you fucking stop it?
1539
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:16,841
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
1540
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:35,411
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
1541
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:40,201
CHARLIE: Any sense?
1542
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:41,845
BEN: And if a bond is "rich" it is...
1543
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,243
- I don't know, loaded with assets?
- "Rich" just means overpriced.
1544
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,328
I can't sleep on planes,
so I did my homework.
1545
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,801
Okay, let's focus. What's our goal?
1546
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,247
To figure out if this is a deal of a lifetime
1547
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,129
or if everyone here
knows something we don't
1548
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,043
and we're gonna get royally screwed.
1549
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,885
Right. Remember that
when you meet with the guys from Bear.
1550
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:00,769
I set you up with a face-to-face.
1551
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:02,171
- Awesome.
- Where is that?
1552
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:06,564
Holy shit. Five years ago,
Securitization was a loser convention.
1553
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,768
100, maybe 200 people would show.
1554
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,008
$500 billion a year later, you get this.
1555
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:12,764
PORTER: There's a lot of
smug-looking people in here, huh?
1556
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,287
It's like someone hit a piñata
filled with white people who suck at golf.
1557
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:17,885
I mean, who are all these clowns?
1558
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:19,325
DANNY: Oh, come on.
I think it looks fun.
1559
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,882
MARK: Certainly. Vennett says these
are the people we're betting against.
1560
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:24,849
- Yeah, here we go. Here we go.
- DANNY: There he is.
1561
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:26,684
Chris, on my left. Chris, on my left.
1562
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:28,281
Gentlemen.
1563
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,921
When do we get a chance to face time
with some of these lovely folks?
1564
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:33,445
Chris, give him the keycards.
1565
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:34,766
Do you even know which keycards
you're giving out?
1566
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:35,841
- You're just giving them out?
- Thank you.
1567
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,651
First of all, how was your travel?
How are you? Uneventful?
1568
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:39,926
- Uneventful.
- Okay.
1569
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:41,724
I've been here for six hours.
I've already been to the gym,
1570
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:43,165
I had two poached eggs
1571
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:44,890
and I played blackjack
with Harry Dean Stanton.
1572
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:46,405
MARK: Thank you for your diary.
1573
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,484
Face time. I'd like some face time.
1574
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,050
Just remember.
We're here to gather information.
1575
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:51,531
We're gathering information, okay?
1576
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,046
We're not advertising
our short position. All right?
1577
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:55,724
We don't want to spook everybody.
Can you do that?
1578
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:57,325
I know you got a big mouth,
you like to run it.
1579
01:12:57,440 --> 01:12:59,169
Can you just keep it shut for a few days?
1580
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:00,366
Okay. Okay.
1581
01:13:00,480 --> 01:13:02,289
Yeah, don't worry. We'll play nice.
1582
01:13:02,440 --> 01:13:03,726
Ladies and gentlemen.
1583
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,041
Business is good.
1584
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:07,531
Profits are strong
1585
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,570
and the mortgage continues
to be the bedrock
1586
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:12,927
on which this economy is built.
1587
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:14,765
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
1588
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,204
And, yes, we had to take some losses
1589
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,568
in our subprime department last year,
but those losses
1590
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,291
will be contained at only 5%.
1591
01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:27,568
Now, in our residential sector...
1592
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:28,846
VINNIE: Mark, it's not a Q and A.
1593
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:30,610
...our rollout of those
variable rate packages
1594
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:32,330
were gobbled up by the consumers!
1595
01:13:32,440 --> 01:13:34,488
MARK: I have a question, please.
1596
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:37,281
Uh...
1597
01:13:37,440 --> 01:13:39,602
Sir, the Q and A is after my statements.
1598
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,081
But you know what? You seem anxious.
How can I help you?
1599
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,083
- Thank you. How are you?
- Fine, thank you.
1600
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,243
Would you say that it is a possibility
1601
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:51,968
or a probability that
subprime losses stop at 5%?
1602
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:53,286
Thank you.
1603
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:58,161
I would say it is a very
strong probability, indeed.
1604
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,211
So back to the residential sector.
1605
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,448
When we rolled out the new
variable rates package...
1606
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,046
- MARK: Excuse me.
- Um... (CHUCKLES)
1607
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:08,567
Yes, sir.
1608
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:12,042
Zero! Zero!
1609
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,970
There is a 0% chance
1610
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,806
that your subprime losses
will stop at 5%.
1611
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:19,961
- Zero.
- (CELL PHONE CHIMES)
1612
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:21,610
Excuse me.
1613
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:22,727
I have to take this.
1614
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,768
MAN: He must be from Bank of America.
1615
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:25,881
(ALL LAUGHING)
1616
01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:29,131
- MAN: Our subprime department is fine.
- No, I'm not doing anything right now.
1617
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:30,770
MAN: As I was saying,
our residential department...
1618
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:32,041
How are the kids?
1619
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,521
MAN: ...consumers
reacted to our packages...
1620
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,284
Mark Baum really did that.
1621
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:37,646
When we were in Vegas, he did that.
1622
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:39,848
He said that, he took the call.
1623
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,004
Now you see what I had to deal with?
1624
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,243
(GUNFIRE)
1625
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:52,365
(SHOUTING)
1626
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:54,410
(WHOOPING)
1627
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,848
Yeah, the Beretta... Meh.
1628
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,161
But this Uzi is fucking awesome!
1629
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,846
I need this CDO machine
to run for another two years.
1630
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:06,163
And then I'm rich as fuck
and I got my house in Aspen.
1631
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:09,449
But do you have any concerns
about the performance
1632
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,090
of the underlying securitizations?
1633
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:12,969
It's easy to see that delinquencies
1634
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,930
and default rates
are on the rise right now.
1635
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,207
Could you please stop
being such a buzzkill, dude?
1636
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,126
We didn't bring you out here
to talk about work, bro.
1637
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:22,690
Why did you bring us out here?
1638
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,923
Because we need to be able
to expense the ammo to a client.
1639
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:29,044
I'm gonna go shoot some terrorists.
Watch how it's done, boys!
1640
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:30,486
CHARLIE: These guys are morons.
1641
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,284
- Fucking tool.
- MAN: Whoo!
1642
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:33,607
These guys are morons.
1643
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:35,961
Fuck, yes! Boom!
1644
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:37,206
Yeah, man!
1645
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,726
We need to be buying up every swap
we can get our hands on here.
1646
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:42,041
Just hold on, okay? Hold on.
1647
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,441
My brother's ex-girlfriend
works for the SEC.
1648
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,369
She just told me she's in town, okay?
1649
01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:48,647
So, if we're missing something,
maybe she can tell me.
1650
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,324
You know, give me some insight.
1651
01:15:50,440 --> 01:15:52,204
In the meantime, you go to the main floor
1652
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:53,964
and price some swaps.
1653
01:15:54,480 --> 01:15:55,891
JAMIE: (STAMMERS)
Well, actually, we're
1654
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,440
about to invest in housing bonds, and...
1655
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,205
I was wondering if the SEC
is worried about them at all.
1656
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:04,005
I know you're not allowed
to tell me specifics, but just generally.
1657
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,327
Oh, we don't
investigate mortgage bonds.
1658
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,722
Truth is, since we got our budget cut,
we don't investigate much.
1659
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,724
- Then why are you here? I thought...
- I'm not here for the SEC.
1660
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:16,490
I'm here on my own dime.
1661
01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:20,683
I'm floating my resume
to some big banks.
1662
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:22,330
How's your brother, by the way?
1663
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,289
How are you floating
your resume to big banks?
1664
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:25,771
I mean, you're supposed to be the ones,
1665
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:27,211
you know, policing the big banks.
1666
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:28,770
Grow up, Jamie.
1667
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:32,606
There must be some kind of law against
working for a financial institution
1668
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,843
right after you've been working
in financial regulation, right?
1669
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,002
No. No.
1670
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,686
(GASPS) Hey! Dougie!
1671
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,444
Hey! Come over here.
What are you doing at Caesars?
1672
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,010
He's at Goldman.
1673
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:48,681
See you.
1674
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:53,800
We can do BBB-level swaps
at 500 basis points. Maybe.
1675
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,686
You're pricing the swaps
like the bond is gonna collapse
1676
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,201
even though the bond value's
going up? Really?
1677
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:01,960
Sign of the times.
1678
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:03,041
CHARLIE: What the hell
is going on?
1679
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:05,560
Lewis, can you come in
early tomorrow, please?
1680
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:07,927
I need to unload the AIG
and Countrywide
1681
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,525
and Freddie Mac positions
1682
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,126
so that we can afford
the premiums on the...
1683
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:13,241
(SIGHS)
1684
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:16,244
...core mortgage shorts on the swaps.
1685
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:18,205
No problem, Dr. Burry.
1686
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:21,401
- Dr. Burry?
- Hmm?
1687
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:24,321
(CLEARS THROAT)
1688
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:26,047
If the investors withdraw,
1689
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,885
what's going to happen here?
Are we done?
1690
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:30,923
Honestly, I don't know.
1691
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:36,889
(STAMMERS)
1692
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,841
The bonds aren't going down.
1693
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,765
They won't move. It's possible
1694
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:49,768
that we are in a completely
fraudulent system.
1695
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,851
Or... (STAMMERS) You're wrong.
1696
01:18:58,600 --> 01:18:59,681
Sure.
1697
01:19:00,480 --> 01:19:04,485
It's possible I'm wrong.
I just don't know how.
1698
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:13,324
I guess when someone's wrong,
they never...
1699
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,961
They never know how.
1700
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:21,287
LEWIS: See you in the morning.
1701
01:19:21,440 --> 01:19:22,487
Yeah.
1702
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,282
Even Bear upped their prices.
1703
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,366
And they keep calling us Brownhole.
1704
01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:31,044
You just don't have the money
or the reputation.
1705
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:32,525
Don't take it personally.
1706
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:33,931
I don't think I have
the strip club in me tonight.
1707
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:37,641
I'm just gonna get some ginger ale
and watch some pay-per-view.
1708
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,121
I'll book us some flights out
for the morning.
1709
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,171
CHARLIE: (STAMMERS) A deal.
We need a deal, right? A deal.
1710
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,049
We need a deal we can afford.
1711
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,447
We need a deal
that they're not gonna refuse.
1712
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,888
So... What can we do? We can...
1713
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,084
The AA tranches. What if we
bet against the AA tranches?
1714
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:57,571
Who's not gonna take that bet?
1715
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,124
We know they say
they're 95% AAA-rated,
1716
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,202
but in reality they're more like 25%.
1717
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,726
Some of them are 0%!
1718
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,485
We also know that if
the bottom tranches fail at over 8%,
1719
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:09,686
the upper tranches are affected.
1720
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:10,966
They go to zero.
1721
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:14,210
I'll bet you right now
that those AA's are actually like B's.
1722
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,723
I rarely ever say these words,
but I think Charlie's right.
1723
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:19,730
Look, Ben.
1724
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:22,811
The payoff
1725
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:24,731
is 200 to 1.
1726
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:26,922
But they're all taking
the ratings at face value.
1727
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,402
So they're charging pennies
on the dollar a bet against the AA's.
1728
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,844
Just when I start thinking
you guys are clowns...
1729
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,400
No one on the planet's
betting against AA's.
1730
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,410
The banks will think we're either high
or having a stroke.
1731
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:42,841
They'll take every dime we have to offer.
1732
01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:46,771
Kinda brilliant.
1733
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:50,648
This is what we did
that no one else thought of.
1734
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,690
Not even Baum or Burry
thought to short the AA's.
1735
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:55,125
But we did.
1736
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:56,929
Little Brownhole Capital.
1737
01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:02,002
We're interested in shorting
some of the AA tranche of CDOs.
1738
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:03,844
Come on, guys, what's the angle?
1739
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,281
Oh, got no angle.
We're new to this. We're just excited.
1740
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:10,126
We want to do $15 million
in swaps on the AA tranche.
1741
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:11,601
I don't understand.
1742
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,326
You can buy as much
AA tranche as you want.
1743
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:18,682
$40 million against the AA.
1744
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:20,967
Brother, I will sell you
as much as you want.
1745
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:23,481
You understand perfectly, Bob.
You want the deal?
1746
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:25,561
(MEN LAUGHING)
1747
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:27,642
That's cool. That's all right with me.
1748
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:31,046
Pleasure.
1749
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:37,769
Oh! (VOCALISING)
1750
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,209
- Don't do that. Stop. Stop.
- (CONTINUES VOCALISING)
1751
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:43,120
- Stop that.
- Charlie.
1752
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:45,290
Stop it! Stop.
1753
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:48,841
What?
1754
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:51,565
Do you have any idea what you just did?
1755
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:53,650
Come on. We just made
the deal of our lifetimes!
1756
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:54,921
We should celebrate.
1757
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:56,923
You just bet against
the American economy.
1758
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:58,490
Fuck, yeah, we did!
1759
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:00,568
- Fuck, yeah!
- Which means...
1760
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,291
Which means if we're right...
1761
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,722
If we're right, people lose homes.
People lose jobs.
1762
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:11,009
People lose retirement savings.
People lose pensions.
1763
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:12,286
You know what I hate
about fucking banking?
1764
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:13,930
It reduces people to numbers.
Here's a number.
1765
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,810
Every 1 % unemployment goes up,
40,000 people die. Did you know that?
1766
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:18,450
- No.
- Did you know that?
1767
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:20,090
No, I didn't know that.
1768
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:23,204
We were just excited.
1769
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:27,602
Just don't fucking dance.
1770
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,123
CHARLIE: All right.
JAMIE: Where are you going?
1771
01:22:34,480 --> 01:22:36,687
Whoa, I just got really scared.
1772
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,123
First of all, great show today.
1773
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:41,690
- You were terrific.
- Thank you.
1774
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:43,364
Your big mouth was a revelation.
1775
01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:45,204
I appreciate that.
1776
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,044
You worried you and your swaps
are getting played?
1777
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:50,283
Well, this is an opportunity for you
to meet who you're betting against.
1778
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:52,129
Try not to get too righteous
and listen a little.
1779
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:53,611
Okay, fine. Who is this guy?
1780
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:55,404
JAMIE: A real solid-gold asshole.
1781
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:56,641
I'm a CDO manager.
1782
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:57,807
A "CDO manager"?
1783
01:22:57,880 --> 01:22:59,325
Yeah, at Harding Advisors.
1784
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:03,043
I didn't realise that there was
anything to manage with CDOs.
1785
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:05,007
MR. CHAU: Oh.
1786
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,291
We select the securities
that go into the CDO portfolio
1787
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:09,725
and monitor the assets.
1788
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:11,643
I do most of Merrill Lynch's CDOs.
1789
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,644
Do you represent the investors
or Merrill Lynch?
1790
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:15,807
The investors.
1791
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:16,927
You do.
1792
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:18,331
- Yeah.
- But...
1793
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:20,409
Merrill Lynch isn't gonna
send you any customers
1794
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:24,041
unless you put Merrill Lynch's bonds
in your CDO.
1795
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,891
Good question. Let's just say
Merrill and I have, um...
1796
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,602
We have a good relationship.
1797
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:32,922
You have a good relationship
with Merrill Lynch.
1798
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:34,684
We've been doing business
together for a long time.
1799
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,286
And so the CDOs that you create
1800
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:41,285
are of the highest quality
and the highest value.
1801
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,283
- Absolutely. Yep.
- Absolutely.
1802
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,887
Are you at all concerned
about the rising default rates?
1803
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:52,049
I assume no risk for these
products myself, Mark.
1804
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:55,886
Okay.
1805
01:23:57,440 --> 01:24:00,603
So let me get this straight.
The bank calls you up.
1806
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:02,770
They give you the bonds
they want to sell.
1807
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:04,171
They give you clients,
1808
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:06,641
they give you money
to run your business.
1809
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:08,404
Give you fat fees for doing so.
1810
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:10,522
But you represent the investors?
1811
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:11,801
(CHUCKLES)
1812
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:13,087
Is that right?
1813
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:14,247
Yeah.
1814
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:15,805
But we're not
in the Merrill Lynch building.
1815
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:17,484
- Okay. Where are you?
- We're in New Jersey.
1816
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,642
You're 20 minutes away.
1817
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:21,643
Well, five if you use a helicopter.
1818
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:24,646
That's funny, huh?
1819
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:25,926
That's hilarious.
1820
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,208
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
1821
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:30,207
Oh, boy.
1822
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:32,767
Your boss is about to explode.
1823
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:34,484
No, he's too curious to explode.
1824
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,085
Hold on. Say that again.
1825
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,242
CDO "A" has parts of CDO "B".
1826
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,243
And CDO "B" has parts of CDO "A".
1827
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,561
But then they both
get put inside CDO "C".
1828
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:44,409
Yeah, that one's called CDO squared.
1829
01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:46,608
A CDO of a CDO.
1830
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:48,001
All right?
1831
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,128
And then there's CDOs
made up of the opposite side
1832
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:51,770
of the bet you made with your swaps.
1833
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,287
We call them synthetic CDOs.
1834
01:24:54,440 --> 01:24:56,602
What did you say? Synthetic CDOs.
1835
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:58,409
That is fucking crazy.
1836
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,170
It's not. It's awesome.
1837
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:05,127
His face is starting to boil.
He looks like the bad guy from Dune.
1838
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:09,121
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
1839
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,123
All right, let's say
1840
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,968
you have a pool of $50 million
in subprime loans.
1841
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,886
How much money could be
out there betting on it,
1842
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,804
in your synthetic CDOs and swaps
1843
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:22,450
right now, tonight?
1844
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,126
Let's see, $50 million... Hmm...
1845
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:27,121
A billion dollars.
1846
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:28,201
What?
1847
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,203
JARED: If the mortgage bonds
that Michael Burry discovered
1848
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:32,645
were the match...
1849
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,486
How much bigger is the market
for insuring mortgage bonds
1850
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:38,005
than actual mortgages?
1851
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:40,406
About 20 times.
1852
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,602
JARED: If the mortgage bonds
were the match
1853
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,411
and the CDOs were
the kerosene-soaked rags,
1854
01:25:45,480 --> 01:25:47,528
then the synthetic CDO
was the atomic bomb
1855
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,570
with the drunk President
holding his finger over the button.
1856
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:52,881
It was at that moment
in that dumb restaurant
1857
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,163
with that stupid look on his face
that Mark Baum realised
1858
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,641
that the whole world economy
might collapse.
1859
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,203
And I know what you're thinking.
1860
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,647
"What the fuck is a synthetic CDO?"
1861
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:07,761
(CROWD CHEERING)
1862
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,686
Well, here's Dr. Richard Thaler,
father of behavioural economics
1863
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,331
and Selena Gomez to explain.
1864
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:18,843
Okay. So here's how
a synthetic CDO works.
1865
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,844
Let's say I bet $10 million
on a blackjack hand.
1866
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,400
$10 million because this hand
is meant to represent
1867
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:27,001
a single mortgage bond.
1868
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:33,442
Okay, Selena has a pretty good
hand here, showing 18.
1869
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:34,521
Dealer showing seven.
1870
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:36,682
That's a really good hand for Selena.
1871
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:38,171
Good odds. In fact,
her chances of winning
1872
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,607
this hand are 87%.
1873
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:44,082
So, my odds are good.
I'm on a winning streak.
1874
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,845
Everybody in this place
wants to get in on the action.
1875
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:48,285
How could I lose, right?
1876
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:49,885
Now, this is a classic error.
1877
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:52,930
In basketball it's called
the Hot Hand Fallacy.
1878
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,571
A player makes a bunch
of shots in a row.
1879
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:57,927
People are sure they're
gonna make the next one.
1880
01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:59,968
People think that whatever's
happening now
1881
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,805
is gonna continue to
happen into the future.
1882
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:06,248
During the real estate boom,
markets were going up and up
1883
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:07,970
and people thought
they would never go down.
1884
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,611
So people who are watching
and think that I won't lose
1885
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:12,170
will make a side bet.
1886
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,481
Now, this is the first synthetic CDO.
1887
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:16,164
I love Selena Gomez.
1888
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:17,730
I bet you $50 million she wins.
1889
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:19,928
And I'll give you 3-to-1 odds.
1890
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:23,846
3-to-1 odds? Okay, I'll take that bet.
1891
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:27,242
RICHARD: Now, somebody else
is gonna want to make a bet
1892
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:28,481
on the outcome of their bet.
1893
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:29,761
Bet you 50 million she wins.
1894
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,810
That will lead to synthetic
CDO number two.
1895
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:36,043
Hey, I bet you $200 million
that lady in the glasses
1896
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:37,725
wins that bet.
1897
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,963
She probably will win.
So I want a great payoff.
1898
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:42,201
How about 20-to-1?
1899
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:43,486
Deal.
1900
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:48,089
And this will go on and on with more
and more synthetic CDOs.
1901
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:52,250
And we can transform an original
$10 million investment
1902
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,323
into billions of dollars.
1903
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:56,571
You okay?
1904
01:27:58,000 --> 01:27:59,001
No.
1905
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,203
I actually feel pretty sick.
1906
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:04,370
(ALL GROAN)
1907
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:06,885
(GROANING CONTINUES)
1908
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:09,323
So I'm going to leave.
1909
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,161
You think I'm a parasite,
don't you, Mr. Baum?
1910
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:17,805
But, apparently,
society values me very much.
1911
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:20,604
In fact, let's do this.
1912
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:25,644
I'll tell you how much I'm worth.
1913
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:27,690
You tell me how much you're worth.
1914
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:33,966
God, you are an incredibly
big piece of shit.
1915
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:41,609
Short everything that guy has touched.
1916
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:43,330
I want half a billion more in swaps.
1917
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,087
You sure about that?
The collateral calls could bankrupt you.
1918
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:47,161
MARK: Yeah. Yeah.
1919
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:48,207
Where are you going?
1920
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:51,329
I am going to try to find
moral redemption
1921
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,209
at the roulette table.
1922
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:34,404
(INAUDIBLE)
1923
01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:58,811
Hey, hey, hey!
1924
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:04,330
Things are worse than I thought.
1925
01:30:06,440 --> 01:30:08,363
I honestly think
the economy might collapse.
1926
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:09,921
But you've been saying
1927
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:13,083
that the system's broken
for years, Mark. So...
1928
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:15,443
Why are you so shocked?
1929
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:21,407
It's more twisted
than I could have imagined.
1930
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,329
You love to be the virtuous one.
1931
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:25,370
I'm a banker. I'm a part of it.
1932
01:30:25,480 --> 01:30:27,767
You always have, Mark.
Like you're untainted.
1933
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:31,322
It changed me.
It changed me into a person
1934
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:33,769
who is not able to
reach out to someone...
1935
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:35,729
He was in pain.
My brother was in real pain.
1936
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:38,687
There's no perfect way to help.
1937
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:44,126
It's sad. It's scary.
1938
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:47,403
So stop trying to fix the world.
1939
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:48,567
He told me...
1940
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:50,005
You're not a saint.
1941
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:51,889
Saints don't live on Park Avenue.
1942
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:53,644
...that he was having bad thoughts.
1943
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,525
CYNTHIA: Just feel the feelings
like the rest of us.
1944
01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:01,044
MARK: My first response
was to offer him some money.
1945
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:03,886
I offered him fucking money!
1946
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:05,930
(INAUDIBLE)
1947
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:12,166
His face was so smashed.
1948
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:25,369
(SOBBING)
1949
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:32,571
That's right.
1950
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:45,320
(ROCK MUSIC PLAYING)
1951
01:31:45,440 --> 01:31:46,726
(MOANING)
1952
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:32,007
(SCREAMING)
1953
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:40,606
MIKE'S WIFE: Michael?
1954
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:42,045
- Michael?
- Yes. Yes.
1955
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:44,242
- Is everything okay?
- Yes, honey.
1956
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:46,402
- You sure?
- Yeah, baby.
1957
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:49,486
I'm fine. (LAUGHS)
1958
01:32:58,480 --> 01:33:00,130
MIKE: To all investors.
1959
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:01,326
As you may know,
1960
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:05,881
our agreement allows me
to take extraordinary measures
1961
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:09,244
when markets
aren't functioning properly.
1962
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:13,041
I currently have reason to
believe the mortgage bond market
1963
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:15,529
is fraudulent.
1964
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:22,447
So, in order to protect investors
from this fraudulent market,
1965
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:25,729
I've decided to restrict
investors' withdrawals
1966
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:27,484
until further notice.
1967
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:31,526
Sincerely, Dr. Michael J. Burry.
1968
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:42,729
(HEAVY METAL MUSIC PLAYING)
1969
01:33:43,480 --> 01:33:44,811
(COMPUTER CHIMES)
1970
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:55,126
(PHONES RINGING)
1971
01:34:06,480 --> 01:34:07,606
(SNIFFLES)
1972
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:40,644
LAUREN CONRAD: (ON TV)
I never would have guessed my life
1973
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:43,200
could change as much
as it has since I moved to L.A.
1974
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:45,687
JASON WAHLER: It's not just, like,
that easy to, like, not see you.
1975
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,843
REPORTER: He lashed out at rumours
he used performance enhancing drugs.
1976
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:50,485
This record is not tainted.
1977
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:51,726
Oh, my God, dude.
1978
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:53,529
Will you please stop
changing the channels?
1979
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:55,250
- You're driving me crazy.
- All right.
1980
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:57,288
- Fine.
- Just put the business news on.
1981
01:34:58,240 --> 01:34:59,401
REPORTER: ...and the S&P
picked up three points.
1982
01:34:59,480 --> 01:35:00,481
Jesus!
1983
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:02,369
Mortgage meltdown continued today.
1984
01:35:02,440 --> 01:35:05,125
Subprime mortgage lender
New Century Financial,
1985
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:07,891
once the industry leader, by the way,
filed for bankruptcy.
1986
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:09,041
- The company immediately...
- Whoa, whoa, whoa.
1987
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:10,326
(REPORTER CLEARS THROAT)
1988
01:35:10,480 --> 01:35:11,686
Good time for my voice to go...
1989
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:14,047
Fired 3,200 workers.
1990
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:16,407
The manufacturing index also
fell in the month of March...
1991
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:17,601
It's starting.
1992
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:19,250
...a warning that
economic growth could slow.
1993
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:20,810
The Institute of Supply Management
1994
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:22,405
also reported a rise in prices...
1995
01:35:22,480 --> 01:35:24,050
I'm gonna call my mom.
1996
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:29,210
The principal source
of the slowdown in economic growth...
1997
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:31,328
Time and time and time again,
1998
01:35:31,440 --> 01:35:33,568
I have gone to bat for you, Mark!
1999
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:34,926
We've known each other
for seven years...
2000
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:37,361
She's got some lungs on her.
I'm impressed.
2001
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:40,363
I can't help but enjoy it.
2002
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:42,930
PORTER: There's no fucking way.
There's no fucking way
2003
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:44,490
that the big banks are that stupid.
2004
01:35:45,480 --> 01:35:47,323
Bye, Kathy!
2005
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:53,001
VINNIE: Well?
2006
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:56,162
MARK: (SIGHS) Kathy thinks
that it would be a good idea
2007
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:57,810
if we sold our shorts.
2008
01:35:57,880 --> 01:35:58,881
PORTER: What else is new?
2009
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:00,849
And she said that
Morgan Stanley will buy them.
2010
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:01,921
DANNY: Holy shit!
2011
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:03,920
What did you say?
2012
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:05,650
I told her we're not selling shit.
2013
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:08,966
(WHISTLES)
2014
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:15,686
Uh, if you need the files for 2005...
2015
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:18,849
Mr. Fields' suit is very specific
to files from the past year.
2016
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:22,325
Good. Then get out.
Say hi to Lawrence for me.
2017
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:23,561
Will do.
2018
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:25,524
(CELL PHONE RINGING)
2019
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:28,284
You can't call me back for a week?
2020
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:30,203
LUCY: I am so sorry, Mike.
2021
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:33,803
Goldman had a systems failure.
I lost a ton of messages.
2022
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:35,882
Yeah, B of A said
they had a power outage,
2023
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:39,209
and Morgan Stanley
said their server crashed.
2024
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:40,486
Huh. That's weird.
2025
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:43,040
Well, I would call it improbable.
2026
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:46,727
So where do you have
our position marked?
2027
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:49,289
I think it's the same, Mike.
2028
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:51,243
What? Can you explain
that to me, please,
2029
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:54,642
because how can the value
of an insurance contract
2030
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:58,884
not be affected by the demise
of the very thing it insures?
2031
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:01,810
They're independent markets.
They're not always correlated.
2032
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:02,842
I know it sounds odd,
2033
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:05,406
but these are very complicated products.
2034
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,163
They are correlated.
2035
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:10,208
They're gonna lose their houses,
they're gonna lose their jobs,
2036
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:11,281
they're gonna lose their...
2037
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:16,003
Will you listen to me?
2038
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:18,846
This is like the end of capitalism.
2039
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:22,282
This is like the Dark Ages all over again.
2040
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:24,481
I don't want to talk to Dad.
2041
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,080
Okay, I love you, too.
Save your money.
2042
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:31,805
She says I need to be on Xanax
and double my dose of Zoloft.
2043
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:33,928
I asked Bear Stearns to price our shorts.
2044
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:35,604
They tell me the CDOs
still haven't moved.
2045
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:37,489
CHARLIE: This is fucking insane!
2046
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:39,085
You realise that?
These people are crooks
2047
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:41,208
and they should be in prison.
2048
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:42,486
Look at the TABX.
2049
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:44,409
You can see that the CDOs
are worth zero!
2050
01:37:44,480 --> 01:37:45,481
So you know what they're doing, huh?
2051
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:46,647
You know what they're doing, right?
2052
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:48,444
Yeah. They're unloading them.
2053
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:51,842
They're selling their dog shit CDOs,
then they go to another bank
2054
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:53,962
and short the shit they just fucking sold!
2055
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:55,724
Let's go to the press, man!
2056
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:59,088
This is a massive story.
Who wouldn't publish it?
2057
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:01,371
Robert Redford!
2058
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:03,245
No, you don't understand!
2059
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:04,890
CASEY: I got it, guys. I got it.
2060
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:08,210
What am I supposed to do?
2061
01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:09,964
Do you want me to write a piece called
"We're All Fucked"?
2062
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:11,969
Yes! That's a perfect title!
2063
01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:16,250
Casey, right now every bank in town
is unloading these shit bonds
2064
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,129
onto unsuspecting customers.
2065
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:21,249
And they won't devalue them
until they get them off their books.
2066
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:23,721
This level of criminality
is unprecedented,
2067
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:26,087
even on fucking Wall Street.
2068
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:30,044
Jamie... And this is me
being honest here, okay?
2069
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:32,926
It took me years to build
my relationships on Wall Street.
2070
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:37,130
No bank or ratings agency is going
to confirm a story like this
2071
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:39,726
just because it comes
from two guys in a...
2072
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:43,083
Sorry, garage band hedge fund
that thinks it's the apocalypse.
2073
01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:44,241
(SIGHS)
2074
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:45,761
Wow.
2075
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:47,160
I thought you were for real, Casey.
2076
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:48,606
You know, I'll have to say I really did.
2077
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:49,841
CASEY: Really?
2078
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:52,162
Yeah, Jamie, you try being for real
with a three-year-old
2079
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:54,089
and a wife getting her master's degree.
2080
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:57,682
I'm not gonna burn my reputation
on your wild hunch.
2081
01:38:58,520 --> 01:38:59,681
Wow.
2082
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:01,001
- Wow.
- (CASEY SIGHS)
2083
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:02,247
Thanks for coming, guys.
2084
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:03,486
Totally fucking awesome to see you.
2085
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:05,562
Yeah, Casey. I've always hated you,
2086
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:07,682
because you were a prick in college
2087
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,127
and you are a prick today!
2088
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:13,086
Thanks, Charlie.
Still living with your mom?
2089
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:15,125
JAMIE: Charlie, come on!
2090
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:17,089
MARK: Mark Baum again. Call me.
2091
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:19,290
Subprime bonds fell off a cliff.
2092
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:21,328
Rumour has it
the default numbers are huge.
2093
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:24,210
Who got the remittance data early?
I bet it's Goldman.
2094
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:25,645
VINNIE: Yeah, fuck you very much.
2095
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:28,564
Jared, it's chaos down here.
Where are we?
2096
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:32,203
"And Caesar wept, for there
were no more worlds to conquer."
2097
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:35,046
Shane?
2098
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:36,640
Shane?
2099
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:40,925
Well, nobody's buying CDO
or mortgage bonds any more
2100
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:42,331
and everybody wants swaps.
2101
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:44,961
Swaps are now the most
popular product on the street.
2102
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:46,889
- That's good for us.
- Yes and no.
2103
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:48,411
I heard from somebody
who heard from somebody...
2104
01:39:48,480 --> 01:39:51,245
No, Alex, no. Sorry.
2105
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:56,209
Bennie Cleager
over at Morgan is taking on
2106
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:57,930
some heavy losses
in the bond department.
2107
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:00,925
Your ship might be taking on water.
2108
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:03,767
It might be time to get
our lifejacket and get out.
2109
01:40:04,480 --> 01:40:06,005
I'm jacked.
2110
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:09,046
I'm jacked! I'm jacked to the tits!
2111
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:10,727
Good.
2112
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:12,882
- Do you feel it?
- No.
2113
01:40:14,440 --> 01:40:16,283
(TOILET FLUSHING)
2114
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:20,525
What'd you hear, Tommy?
2115
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:23,681
It's happening.
2116
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:25,603
PORTER: Everybody wants our swaps.
2117
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:27,802
Kathy's office is looking for you.
2118
01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:30,606
DANNY: They're singing
a different tune now, aren't they?
2119
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:33,450
That's not good.
2120
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:39,611
Maybe later. Not now.
2121
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:42,121
This is a joke. Never.
2122
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:43,321
(CELL PHONE RINGING)
2123
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:46,687
Listening.
2124
01:40:47,120 --> 01:40:48,724
- DEEB: Dr. Burry?
- Yeah.
2125
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:50,165
Deeb Winston, Goldman Sachs.
2126
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:51,770
Listen, I've been reviewing your position.
2127
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:54,081
I wanted to discuss your marks
and make sure they're fair.
2128
01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:57,004
(STAMMERS) Yeah,
I think you mean that you've
2129
01:40:57,080 --> 01:40:59,845
secured a net short position yourselves.
2130
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:02,810
So you're free to mark my swaps
accurately for once
2131
01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:05,645
because it's now
in your interest to do so.
2132
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:09,848
I'm not sure what you want me to say.
2133
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:11,530
I think that...
2134
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:15,168
I think that you've already said it.
2135
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:25,082
You tell Jeff at Goldman
that I'm not transferring funds.
2136
01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:26,844
This is bullshit!
2137
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:32,600
(KNOCKS)
2138
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:35,729
Okay, we'll talk later.
2139
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:37,690
Thank you.
2140
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:40,087
(SIGHS)
2141
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:42,003
Thanks for coming so quickly, Mark.
2142
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:43,445
- Yeah.
- Um...
2143
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:44,960
I know you've been hearing rumblings
2144
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:46,565
about some losses Morgan has suffered.
2145
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:48,603
- Congratulations.
- On what?
2146
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:50,287
Oh.
2147
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:52,485
Thanks. Um...
2148
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:53,925
Having fun?
2149
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:56,291
Yes. (LAUGHS)
2150
01:41:57,520 --> 01:41:58,885
Tons. Um...
2151
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:01,681
I just wanted you to know that, um...
2152
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:03,969
That, yes,
Morgan has suffered some losses,
2153
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:07,806
but our liquidity is strong
and there's no cause for concern.
2154
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:10,884
Would Bennie Cleager be concerned?
2155
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:12,531
Because word on the street
2156
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:15,444
is that he took some pretty heavy losses.
2157
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:18,569
Kathy, come on.
We know each other.
2158
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:20,881
- (SIGHS)
- What's going on?
2159
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:22,770
How bad is this?
2160
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:24,081
Okay.
2161
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:27,963
Two years ago, Bennie Cleager
in Morgan's bond department
2162
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:31,567
also started shorting subprime housing,
$2 billion in BBBs.
2163
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:32,880
Bennie is smarter than I thought.
2164
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:34,411
No, he's not smart at all.
2165
01:42:34,480 --> 01:42:36,847
The premiums on the swap
ate into his desk's profit.
2166
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:38,928
To cover his BBB shorts,
2167
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:41,480
he sold a lot of A and AA swaps
as protection.
2168
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:42,561
A lot.
2169
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:46,443
He believed that there was no way
that they could be affected.
2170
01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:50,402
Tell me Morgan Stanley doesn't hold
the contracts on these swaps.
2171
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:55,250
Holy shit.
2172
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:59,288
All this time I've been trying to figure
out who I'm betting against,
2173
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:01,443
and it's Morgan Stanley.
2174
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:03,691
Which is me.
2175
01:43:05,440 --> 01:43:07,761
What's your exposure? $3 billion?
2176
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:10,483
Please, don't tell me it's more than four.
2177
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:12,290
I can't answer that.
I can't answer that.
2178
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:15,523
Yes, you can answer that,
because I walk in here
2179
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:18,683
and people are crying in your hallway.
2180
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:20,281
Kathy,
2181
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:22,808
you bring me in to tell me
everything's fine,
2182
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:24,120
and everything's not fine.
2183
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:26,603
What, what is happening?
2184
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:31,002
The long exposure is...
2185
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:34,450
...$15 billion.
2186
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:41,526
Jesus!
2187
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:43,961
He kept saying defaults
over 8% were impossible.
2188
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:45,041
MARK: Oh, my God.
2189
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:46,360
That there would be a million homeless!
2190
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:50,041
Yeah, but we have nothing
to do with Morgan Stanley.
2191
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:54,166
Yeah...
2192
01:43:54,480 --> 01:43:56,323
Tell the bankruptcy court.
2193
01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:59,649
Morgan fails, all our accounts
go on their balance sheet.
2194
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:01,924
DANNY: It's just crazy.
2195
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:03,451
Morgan makes the sucker's bet
2196
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:05,887
and we pay their fucking gambling debt?
2197
01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:08,886
Short the bank stocks. Then we wait.
2198
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:14,842
Or we sell our swaps
when the market opens.
2199
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:19,609
We get our bonuses,
our investors get their profits, we get...
2200
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:22,160
What, 30 cents on the dollar?
It's not bad.
2201
01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:23,965
We're three times that.
2202
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:25,769
Not if there's
no market left to sell them in.
2203
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:27,763
Forget it.
We're not giving out any lifeboats.
2204
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:30,241
VINNIE: If Morgan goes under,
we end up with nothing.
2205
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:31,321
Vinnie.
2206
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:36,249
Jesus, come on.
I say when we sell.
2207
01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:42,761
Look, I get that this is personal for you,
2208
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:45,121
but we have a fiduciary responsibility.
2209
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:46,690
No. No, we don't.
2210
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:49,162
Nobody's acting responsible.
2211
01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:52,091
Fuck responsibility. Are you kidding me?
2212
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:54,688
The assholes at the big banks will take...
2213
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:55,807
WOMAN: You boys want any appetisers?
2214
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:57,644
MARK: We're talking, please!
2215
01:44:58,360 --> 01:44:59,885
- Excuse us.
- Sorry.
2216
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:04,805
We are going to wait,
and we are going to wait,
2217
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:06,445
and we are going to wait
2218
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:10,400
until they feel the pain,
until they start to bleed.
2219
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:12,802
- That is what I want.
- But what about our clients
2220
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:14,211
who've entrusted us with their savings...
2221
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:15,486
I say when we sell.
2222
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:16,561
This isn't about you.
2223
01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:17,880
This isn't about you
and your Upper East Side
2224
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:19,086
- mahogany soapbox.
- Hey! Hey!
2225
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:20,571
I say when we sell!
2226
01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:23,929
DANNY: Whatever you say, Mark.
2227
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:32,369
Dude, did you hear the news?
2228
01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:36,527
Okay. So, not only do
two mortgage hedge funds
2229
01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:38,404
backed by Bear Stearns go belly up,
2230
01:45:38,480 --> 01:45:41,643
but now there's
a class-action lawsuit against Bear.
2231
01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:42,881
CHARLIE: Holy shit!
2232
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:45,531
Let's go! Push! Push!
2233
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:47,011
So, what?
Bear could really collapse here.
2234
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:48,844
- This is a risk we really shouldn't take.
- Then what?
2235
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:50,922
JAMIE: We bought 80%
of our swaps at Bear.
2236
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:52,604
- We'd lose everything.
- So what?
2237
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:54,091
- Hey, sir?
- One second!
2238
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:55,207
That's my opinion.
2239
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:56,520
We bought these fucking things.
2240
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:57,726
We have no clue how to sell them.
2241
01:45:57,800 --> 01:45:59,245
I know. We have to get Ben to do it.
2242
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:01,322
I've been trying to call him
and he won't get back to me.
2243
01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:03,641
No. He's on vacation
with his wife's family.
2244
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:04,966
They're in England.
2245
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:06,881
What?
2246
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:08,240
(BELL RINGING SOFTLY)
2247
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:09,566
(TYPING ON COMPUTER)
2248
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:13,482
(MEN TALKING INDISTINCTLY)
2249
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:16,204
JAMIE: Hello, Ben. Hey.
BEN: Guys?
2250
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:17,884
Yeah, we're here.
Can you hear us?
2251
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:19,450
- Guys?
- CHARLIE: Yeah, we got you.
2252
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:22,405
BEN: Yeah. I hardly got
cell phone or Wi-Fi service.
2253
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:26,131
I'm trying to sell $200 million
worth of securities.
2254
01:46:26,480 --> 01:46:28,801
In a pub. It smells like sheep.
2255
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:30,121
You can do this.
2256
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:31,361
CHARLIE: I don't want
to pressure you, Ben
2257
01:46:31,440 --> 01:46:34,011
but if you don't pull this off,
we lose everything.
2258
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:37,563
All right. Let's see what
Credit Suisse's appetite is.
2259
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:43,881
This is Brownfield Fund.
2260
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:45,923
I want to unload my credit default swaps.
2261
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:47,810
MAN: All right. What you got?
2262
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:49,650
Twenty AA tranches of A.B.S. CDOs.
2263
01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:52,641
MAN: A.B.S.? Are these...
These are pretty bad?
2264
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:54,842
Absolutely. They're complete shit.
2265
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:56,570
What's your notional value?
2266
01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:59,331
Face value is 205 million. Dollars.
2267
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:02,206
All right, we could, we could go to forty.
2268
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:03,611
No. We want at least 100 million.
2269
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:07,321
100 million? Who are you,
a drug dealer or a banker?
2270
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:09,966
'Cause if you're a banker,
you can fuck right off!
2271
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:11,246
I don't know if we can make a market.
2272
01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:12,441
BEN: Just give me your best price?
2273
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:15,091
Yeah. Chuck 100 million in for me, mate.
2274
01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:16,400
I think we're far apart.
2275
01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:19,360
Look, if you don't want the deal,
you can just hang up.
2276
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:23,364
That's what I thought.
2277
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:26,122
- 90 million.
- 70.
2278
01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:28,963
(SIGHS) 85.
2279
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:31,123
- 78.
- 84.
2280
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:34,362
- 78.
- BEN: 84.
2281
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:37,446
MIKE: It's Dr. Burry.
2282
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:40,884
Looks like the collapse
of the financial sector is imminent.
2283
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:43,848
Let's start to sell my position.
2284
01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:46,043
It's $1.3 billion.
2285
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:49,403
Sure, I'll hold.
2286
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:52,569
(TYPING ON COMPUTER)
2287
01:47:59,440 --> 01:48:00,885
(BEEPING)
2288
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:14,730
So, I was right.
2289
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:18,086
I took a rash of shit for two years, but
2290
01:48:18,440 --> 01:48:20,408
I was right.
2291
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:22,444
And everyone was wrong.
2292
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:26,609
And, yeah,
I got a bonus cheque for it. Sue me.
2293
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:28,287
You know?
2294
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:32,321
It's a lot of money. I get it.
I can feel you judging me.
2295
01:48:32,440 --> 01:48:33,771
That's palpable.
2296
01:48:34,440 --> 01:48:38,445
But, hey, I never said
I was the hero of this story.
2297
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:41,611
JAMIE: Hey, Ben. How are we looking?
2298
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:44,165
BEN: (CUTTING OUT) Eight... on...
2299
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:46,245
Sorry?
2300
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:48,762
No. Eighty million.
2301
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:50,570
$80 million, $80 million,
that's good, right?
2302
01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:51,721
- Eighty is great.
- Is that good?
2303
01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:53,006
- Eighty is great, Ben.
- Okay.
2304
01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:55,441
Thank you. Thank you so much.
2305
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:57,603
Most of it went to UBS.
2306
01:48:57,760 --> 01:48:59,285
You're very lucky. The largest bank
2307
01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:02,569
in France froze customer's money
market accounts today.
2308
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:04,245
This thing's hitting Europe.
2309
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:06,163
Greece and Iceland are finished.
2310
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:07,605
Spain is teetering.
2311
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:09,284
Are you serious? Fuck.
2312
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:11,523
CHARLIE: Ben, call us
when you get home.
2313
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:12,886
But, hey, before you go,
2314
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:15,008
uh, I'm just wondering...
2315
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:16,966
Um...
2316
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:20,128
Why did you do this with us?
2317
01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:23,168
You didn't have to. Uh...
2318
01:49:23,480 --> 01:49:27,166
Thank you. But, uh, why?
2319
01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:31,010
You guys said you wanted to get rich.
Now you're rich.
2320
01:49:31,480 --> 01:49:32,561
COMMENTATOR: Goal!
2321
01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:34,483
Pamplona puts themselves
on the scoreboard.
2322
01:49:38,480 --> 01:49:41,006
JARED: As the housing markets
and banks continued to haemorrhage,
2323
01:49:41,080 --> 01:49:43,481
only one of the big shorts refused to sell.
2324
01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:44,800
Mark Baum.
2325
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:50,208
So it was beyond perfect
when he was asked to speak
2326
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:52,123
at a conference opposite Bruce Miller,
2327
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:54,680
the famous bullish investor.
2328
01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:57,247
After he and Mark had their debate,
Alan Greenspan,
2329
01:49:57,360 --> 01:50:00,842
one of the architects of the whole crisis
was scheduled to speak.
2330
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:03,691
Everyone in Mark's office showed up,
he even invited friends.
2331
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:05,087
(CELL PHONE VIBRATING)
2332
01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:08,443
This was the Ali vs. Foreman
of the financial world.
2333
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:10,848
The realist versus the fools.
2334
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:14,841
And if it seems almost too perfect,
trust me, this happened.
2335
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:16,801
(CELL PHONE
CONTINUES VIBRATING)
2336
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:23,201
Welcome, everyone.
Please give a generous welcome to
2337
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:27,081
Mr. Bruce Miller and Mark Baum.
2338
01:50:27,440 --> 01:50:29,568
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
2339
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:44,161
(CELL PHONE VIBRATING)
2340
01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:45,770
- Strap yourself in.
- (WOMAN COUGHS)
2341
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:49,202
So as some of you may know,
Bear Stearns
2342
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:51,851
has just received a loan from JP Morgan.
2343
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:54,810
Of course, we're gonna have to
wait and see how the markets react,
2344
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:58,566
but that should lay to rest any
concerns about the bank's health.
2345
01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:03,407
Now, I take it you have no plans to sell
your $200 million in Bear stock?
2346
01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:05,330
No. As a matter of fact,
when we're done here,
2347
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:07,243
I'll probably go out and buy some more.
2348
01:51:07,320 --> 01:51:08,685
- (SCATTERED LAUGHTER)
- (CELL PHONES VIBRATING)
2349
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:12,242
For the opposing view, Mr. Baum.
2350
01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:16,768
I got to stand for this.
2351
01:51:19,480 --> 01:51:21,050
Okay, hi.
2352
01:51:21,480 --> 01:51:23,926
My firm's thesis is pretty simple.
2353
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:26,044
Wall Street took a good idea,
2354
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:27,645
Lewis Ranieri's mortgage bond,
2355
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:30,161
and turned it into an atomic bomb
2356
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:32,442
of fraud and stupidity
2357
01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:35,411
that's on its way to decimating
the world economy.
2358
01:51:35,480 --> 01:51:36,686
How do you really feel?
2359
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:38,040
(AUDIENCE CHUCKLING)
2360
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:40,083
MARK: I'm glad you still
have a sense of humour.
2361
01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:42,208
I wouldn't if I were you.
2362
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:46,605
Now, anyone who knows me knows that
2363
01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:49,200
I have no problem telling
someone they're wrong.
2364
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:53,365
PORTER: (WHISPERING) Bear Stearns
is denying rumours of liquidity problems.
2365
01:51:53,440 --> 01:51:55,727
(WHISPERING) Holy fuck, it's 39 now!
2366
01:51:57,880 --> 01:52:00,451
We live in an era of fraud in America.
2367
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:02,887
Not just in banking, but in government,
2368
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:06,330
education, religion, food,
2369
01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:08,050
even baseball.
2370
01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:09,800
(VIBRATING)
2371
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:11,160
What bothers me isn't that
2372
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:15,646
fraud is not nice or that fraud is mean.
2373
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:17,803
It's that for 15,000 years
2374
01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:20,170
fraud and short-sighted thinking
2375
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:22,641
have never, ever worked.
2376
01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:25,644
- PORTER: Jesus, Bear at 37...
- Not once.
2377
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:29,008
Eventually, people get caught,
things go south.
2378
01:52:29,080 --> 01:52:30,491
DANNY: It's fucking plummeting, man.
2379
01:52:30,680 --> 01:52:32,921
When the hell did we forget all that?
2380
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:39,606
I thought we were
better than this. I really did.
2381
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:42,002
And the fact that we're not
2382
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:44,811
doesn't make me feel
all right and superior.
2383
01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:47,406
It makes me feel... Sad.
2384
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:50,207
Every time I fucking hit
"refresh" it's dropping, man.
2385
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:53,524
And as fun as it is to watch
2386
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:56,127
pompous, dumb Wall Streeters
be wildly wrong,
2387
01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:58,441
and you are wrong, sir,
2388
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:02,284
I just know, that at the end of the day
2389
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:05,691
average people are going to be the ones
2390
01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:07,967
that are gonna have to pay for all this.
2391
01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:10,807
Because they always, always do.
2392
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:11,881
DANNY: It's 32.
2393
01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:13,371
VINNIE: It's fucking tanked, man.
2394
01:53:13,440 --> 01:53:15,442
That's my two cents. Thank you.
2395
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:18,131
DANNY: Let me drop
a deuce at Deutsche.
2396
01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:20,282
WOMAN: Does our bull
have a response?
2397
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:24,807
Only that, in the entire history
of Wall Street,
2398
01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:27,207
no investment bank has ever failed
2399
01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:29,322
unless caught in criminal activities.
2400
01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:33,327
So, yes, I stand by
my Bear Stearns optimism.
2401
01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:35,642
MAN: Mr. Miller, I'm sorry.
Quick question.
2402
01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:37,810
From the time you guys started talking,
2403
01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:40,850
Bear Stearns stock has
fallen more than 38%.
2404
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:42,331
Would you still buy more?
2405
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:46,645
Yeah, sure, of course
I'd buy more. Why not?
2406
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:48,121
Boom.
2407
01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:49,969
(ALL TALKING INDISTINCTLY)
2408
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:52,725
DANNY: Jesus Christ!
2409
01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:57,323
WOMAN: That concludes
the first part of our presentation.
2410
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:03,008
Up next, we have the legendary
former chairman of the Fed,
2411
01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:04,844
Alan Greenspan.
2412
01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:06,251
Folks?
2413
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:25,765
MALE REPORTER: ...employees
of Lehman Brothers today,
2414
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:29,208
as the Wall Street giant's stock
went to zero.
2415
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:31,443
The collapse of the venerable
New York bank
2416
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:35,206
follows a tumultuous few months
of market volatility
2417
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:37,886
and fear in the world economy.
2418
01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:39,964
I got to see inside.
2419
01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:42,051
How?
2420
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:43,801
Come on.
2421
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:47,729
I left my phone in the office.
I threw my pass out already.
2422
01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:49,165
Do you mind if I take your pass?
2423
01:54:49,240 --> 01:54:51,846
I don't give a shit any more.
You can do what you want.
2424
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:01,449
Go directly to your transportation.
2425
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:03,249
Do not talk to the press.
2426
01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:06,722
After 18 years, I just leave?
That's just fucking great!
2427
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:09,844
I'll talk to whoever the hell I want!
2428
01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:12,241
MAN: Do not talk to the press.
2429
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:14,528
Go directly to your transportation.
2430
01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:15,840
Do not talk to...
2431
01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:19,481
PORTER: Hey, look,
you wanna get a bite tonight?
2432
01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:22,001
There's this, uh, new Cuban place
2433
01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:24,082
just opened on the Lower East Side.
It's supposed to be good.
2434
01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:26,084
- Oh, really?
- Yeah.
2435
01:55:26,600 --> 01:55:27,931
You and I?
2436
01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:29,764
- Yeah, or other people.
- (CELL PHONE VIBRATING)
2437
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:31,604
- That sounds nice. I would like that.
- Yeah.
2438
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:32,920
Finally.
2439
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:34,691
Mark, hey.
2440
01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:36,285
VINNIE: It's a bloodbath up here.
2441
01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:37,805
Morgan stock has lost half its value.
2442
01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:40,201
It's down to 23. 10. It's in freefall.
2443
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:43,284
Clients want to talk to you
about pulling their money.
2444
01:55:43,480 --> 01:55:47,007
It's now or never, Mark.
We got to sell.
2445
01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:51,441
Mark.
2446
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:54,006
Mark, you hear me?
2447
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:55,805
MALE AUTOMATED VOICE:
Mailbox one.
2448
01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:58,725
You have 15 messages.
2449
01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:00,041
(BEEPING)
2450
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:01,770
WOMAN: Mike, I can't seem
to get a hold of you.
2451
01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:04,286
Will you please call me
at your earliest convenience.
2452
01:56:05,640 --> 01:56:08,484
It's Jack. You're buying stocks?
2453
01:56:08,720 --> 01:56:11,644
The market's at an all-time low.
This is crazy!
2454
01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:14,201
MIKE: I met my wife on Match.com.
2455
01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:15,971
My profile said,
2456
01:56:16,160 --> 01:56:18,527
"I am a medical student
with only one eye,
2457
01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:20,523
"an awkward social manner,
2458
01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:24,207
"and $145,000 in student loans."
2459
01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:26,330
She wrote back,
2460
01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:28,204
"You're just what I've been looking for."
2461
01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:30,810
She meant honest.
2462
01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:32,690
So let me be honest.
2463
01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:37,164
The housing crisis represents
the greatest financial opportunity of...
2464
01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:40,005
MIKE: Making money is not
like I thought it would be.
2465
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:44,928
This business kills
the part of life that is essential.
2466
01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:48,083
The part that has nothing
to do with business.
2467
01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:49,889
- (APPLAUDING)
- (MAN TALKING INDISTINCTLY)
2468
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:52,402
For the past two years, my insides...
2469
01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:53,481
(SQUEALS)
2470
01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:55,927
...have felt like
they're eating themselves.
2471
01:56:56,080 --> 01:56:58,367
All the people I respected
2472
01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:01,366
won't talk to me any more
2473
01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:03,443
except through lawyers.
2474
01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:08,611
- (BABY CRYING)
- People
2475
01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:13,046
want an authority to tell them
how to value things...
2476
01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:18,480
...but they choose this authority not
based on facts or results.
2477
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:23,648
They choose it because it
seems authoritative and familiar.
2478
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:26,166
And I am not
2479
01:57:26,240 --> 01:57:29,289
and never have been "familiar".
2480
01:57:31,240 --> 01:57:32,241
So...
2481
01:57:33,120 --> 01:57:36,249
So, I've come to the sullen realisation
2482
01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:39,125
that I must close down the fund.
2483
01:57:39,200 --> 01:57:42,329
Sincerely, Michael J. Burry, M.D.
2484
01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:44,122
CHARLIE: This isn't how I pictured it.
2485
01:58:46,120 --> 01:58:47,281
JAMIE: What did you think we'd find?
2486
01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:48,407
I don't know.
2487
01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:51,805
Grownups.
2488
01:58:55,720 --> 01:58:57,210
Mark, you there?
2489
01:58:59,880 --> 01:59:01,120
VINNIE: Mark?
2490
01:59:01,400 --> 01:59:04,324
Paulson and Bernanke
just left the White House.
2491
01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:11,802
There's going to be a bailout.
2492
01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:16,802
Well, they had to. Right?
2493
01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:18,321
Paper markets would've collapsed.
2494
01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:19,561
They knew.
2495
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:21,330
Cash would've stopped
coming out of ATMs.
2496
01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:22,970
They had to backstop this.
2497
01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:25,561
They knew the taxpayers
would bail them out.
2498
01:59:25,640 --> 01:59:28,086
They weren't being stupid.
They just didn't care.
2499
01:59:28,240 --> 01:59:30,402
Yeah. 'Cause they're fucking crooks.
2500
01:59:32,320 --> 01:59:34,926
But at least we're going to
see some of them go to jail.
2501
01:59:36,080 --> 01:59:39,323
Right? I mean, they're gonna
have to break up the banks.
2502
01:59:40,440 --> 01:59:41,771
I mean, the party's over.
2503
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:44,525
I don't know. I don't know, Vinnie.
2504
01:59:47,280 --> 01:59:48,770
I have a feeling
2505
01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:50,729
that in a few years
people are gonna be doing
2506
01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:53,804
what they always do
when the economy tanks.
2507
01:59:54,280 --> 01:59:57,489
They will be blaming
immigrants and poor people.
2508
01:59:57,760 --> 01:59:59,125
JARED: But Mark was wrong.
2509
02:00:00,280 --> 02:00:02,203
In the years that followed,
hundreds of bankers
2510
02:00:02,280 --> 02:00:04,965
and rating agencies executives
went to jail.
2511
02:00:05,120 --> 02:00:07,122
The SEC was completely overhauled.
2512
02:00:07,280 --> 02:00:10,011
And Congress had no choice
but to break up the big banks
2513
02:00:10,400 --> 02:00:12,880
and regulate the mortgage
and derivatives industries.
2514
02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:16,044
(GLASS SHATTERING)
2515
02:00:17,680 --> 02:00:19,011
Just kidding.
2516
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:21,487
The banks took the money
the American people gave them
2517
02:00:21,560 --> 02:00:23,847
and used it to pay themselves
huge bonuses
2518
02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:26,161
and lobby Congress to kill big reform.
2519
02:00:26,360 --> 02:00:28,601
And then they blamed
immigrants and poor people.
2520
02:00:28,680 --> 02:00:30,842
And this time, even teachers.
2521
02:00:32,240 --> 02:00:33,446
And when all was said and done,
2522
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:35,284
only one single banker went to jail.
2523
02:00:36,200 --> 02:00:37,326
This poor schmuck.
2524
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:39,846
Kareem Serageldin from Credit Suisse.
2525
02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:42,521
He hid a few billion
in mortgage bond losses,
2526
02:00:42,600 --> 02:00:45,888
something most of the big banks did
on a good day during the crisis.
2527
02:00:47,480 --> 02:00:49,482
Mark, can we sell now?
2528
02:00:51,320 --> 02:00:53,800
The fund will make almost $1 billion.
2529
02:00:53,880 --> 02:00:55,484
You'll clear $200 mil, Mark.
2530
02:00:56,680 --> 02:00:58,921
You know, once we sell,
2531
02:00:59,680 --> 02:01:01,569
we'll be just like the rest of them.
2532
02:01:01,680 --> 02:01:02,761
You know that.
2533
02:01:03,080 --> 02:01:04,684
No, we're not.
We're not the bad guys here.
2534
02:01:04,760 --> 02:01:08,287
We didn't defraud the American people
and prey on their dreams
2535
02:01:08,360 --> 02:01:09,930
of owning a home. All right?
2536
02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:11,286
They did.
2537
02:01:11,360 --> 02:01:12,361
(HORN HONKING)
2538
02:01:12,440 --> 02:01:14,283
And now we get to
kick them in the teeth.
2539
02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:21,682
A billion dollars.
2540
02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:24,600
That's right.
2541
02:01:24,680 --> 02:01:27,524
But we got to close out our position
or it could be zero.
2542
02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:30,884
I mean, it's now or never, Mark.
2543
02:01:40,040 --> 02:01:41,485
Okay.
2544
02:01:45,200 --> 02:01:46,645
Sell it all.
2545
02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:47,442
(ROCK MUSIC PLAYING)